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But no. But otherwise it's just what I was saying. Otherwise you would make an effort before the machine and then you would reverse the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=61.43,72.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but haven't you found that difficult yourself, though? 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Well, what about I mean, bet when you made the film on Bet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=80.06,82.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So was buried. It was baby. The problem was different because when you really didn't understand why you wanted to know certain things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=83.63,94.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=94.58,94.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She just she stood there really lucid. So I said, what? Games to play. And she gave some, you know, as much. And she gave some very cryptic explanation of the, of the games, you know, because she jumps 4 or 5 notion to come to land on the six ocean. And she supposes you understand. And as a matter of fact, I understand. But at the same time I know that no audience will understand. So what I will do is on several days I had to come here for two weeks. Every day. Every day to day. Twice the afternoon after school. And in the early. And what I would do is hammer on the same subjects over and over. So that she might give her different views of it. And I could compose a whole story, I think. But when I asked about the subject two times, she said, why are you asking about it? It's not important anyway. See? And so my problem was to to lead her onto subjects which had her her passion and energy, but most of the time she would stay very, very lucid. What has to do with the recall? 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So Philip had to, you know, take them both into the situation. And then when he got to Cameron, everything set up with a recorder and neither one of them do anything. So he had to work on this, you know, they were both loaded and he was trying to get the guy to play the pipes. You know, the violinist. No need to try to get the guy to play like you thought he would have. A kind of a jazz battle between these two Irish folk musician. 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This is what is the music you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=271.62,275.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Make when you want to make music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=275.28,276.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And there's the music you make when they ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=278.49,281.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You to make music because they said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=281.76,283.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no no no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=286.6,288.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I think Just lovely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=289.6,291.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. 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Little simply wanted to, but indirectly and find out what will happen. And all this, you know and took a hard time first. Then he had to deal with cavity night. He had to deal with that money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=319.31,332.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But I was still a guy, and I know. Oh, yeah. But he was. 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But what do you do? And I do want to try out the kind of the subject that the hitters sensitivity. 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We knew her. But since we came here, she was the wildest person in the neighborhood. Yeah, he fought and he fought. She insulted. She scared Yvonne. It was real boisterous and stuff. And then one day, she broke her leg, a broken leg? Yeah, she was run over by milk. 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No it's not. But the funny thing is that the opposite of. Look. Oh, when you say well. It means it's about. It's about the right way. But if you say that, this could work even better. Yeah, it's there. But if you say. If you say it is needful. I say it is very good for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=920.39,948.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e On the contrary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=949.26,949.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On the contrary, it is good. 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But, you know, this preparation period, I think, is the strongest person to work for. But is the period where you make or break your film in a way, when you're dealing with people who are not professional and that kind of stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=964.82,980.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so and all is there is no the shooting is nothing. No. The shooting, you go right in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=981.66,987.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's just the work in the person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=988.18,989.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, we. I had a funny. Another funny thing. This is this going to be a disorganized bit? Yeah. Hey, wife on the tape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=989.92,1003.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But it doesn't matter because I edited it all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1003.55,1005.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And anyway, I think we would. It would be better with movie set to work. Can you ask me different questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1006.31,1012.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the one I asked him. Yeah, we do that too, which is good, because the same answers, you see that there's a difference in style. What are they going to do? Like, if you ever go from just what I'm doing is interviewing you, like, almost like you're on page, you know, seeking inner impulses, whereas the other side is like academy training, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1013.78,1034.359"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree, but, you know, I, I like to develop my, my little thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1035.05,1039.369"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's all right. 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You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1141.24,1144.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e With the rules. So, guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1144.27,1145.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This good? 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You know, old lady, when you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1151.95,1155.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Were very young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1155.16,1156.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This is traditional for years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=1156.45,1157.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, not at all. But is just very practical, Yeah. You see, it's very real. You. Yeah. Fairies. And I said, okay, you go home and put on your stockings without your pants on your toes. And. No. Because she feels damn well that this has to do with, you know, somehow it has to do with sex. Of course, you know, I mean, he's going to feel my legs. And why? What's wrong with my pants? And, you know, is that good enough? I don't do this. And the red is a bit, you know. So she talks, Betty. But you know, we sensible. Well, it doesn't matter now. And. So she has had to leave. And we were sitting in the room booting each other, baby and I, for 1.5 hour about. I don't know anything I said, wouldn't you know. And I got mad as well, really. 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And so I, I think and it hurt me terribly to do that because it was real cruel. I said, okay, baby, we stop the movie. No move. If you that lousy with me, we'll make no movie anymore. So baby, she's a fighter. That British you? Yeah. I'm red and she looks really like, you know, someone 30 for it in front of a terrible machine. And this is for this, if you can change, fix it. And she's a little bright little kid, he's a kind of an old man or an angel or a comedian. He is. She sits like more like Winston Churchill or something. Silence for ten minutes. And she said, Lord Ridge, you always got to be God. You have to have your way. You always got to be right. And then we walk through the home, you know, I wait outside and she she changes stories. There was a real piece of drama that was lovely, you know, and she was so mad because she couldn't win, you know. We got. Yeah. No feel. And I hated myself for applying such terrible methods. And this is the kind of rapport. This one. 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Taken down to be a normal subject of everyday subject of conversation, baby. Getting the little boy. So maybe. So you kissed a little boy and and you'll find. That. Yeah. That little boy that is out there. You kiss him to, you know, and have you. And we went on like that every day. And so, you know, I had a couple of weeks. You could talk about it in front of the microphone without it being the text was just beautiful because she explained how she went about it. You know what? She will ready to what is the winter in Winter Park period when we do the. She waited till five in the afternoon. Then it wouldn't be so light, you know. And then she would go off to the American Hotel, which is the Amstel Hotel, which is over there. We're just a little bit quiet. And then we could kiss. 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A person who can really. Make a language and then an extension of his being and is completely animal and wild. This was one thing. I did it again. 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Now I will talk about how I went at it. 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And you know, did it divide time along lines of popularity in the religion. And this is the smallest one but the most, the best regarded one because they have they are very funny. They are free Protestant, but they are the most left wing. There are more left wing to the socialist chain. And they they are the guy in the guys who, who, who have several people, you know, try to try out in different directions and Sometimes it looks very fine credits, but they have not much money. But these are very, very fine. I mean, as bosses there are very, very fine cuts because, you know, once you accept that you do it, you never ask anything. You just go away. Fantastic. 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It determines what you put on the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2042.29,2045.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And these guys have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2047.6,2048.409"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How much airtime you get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2048.889,2049.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e These guys are the smallest. But they have a very principle membership. So they can go on and they they draw also money from certain industries and guys who support people because they feel that it is nice to have this group of people working. Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2049.88,2073.159"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. 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She's hoping that it would be over in and over, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2377.62,2380.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Over what? Over and over, you know. You should see. 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Do you come here every day and you talk, and you talk to me, and you record here, and you talk about your life and all that. And from that, I can know what we are going to put in the film. And I say, you know, just. It's just interesting for you because you what you tell to me is going to come into the film. 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For I had said, you tell will do is going to be in the film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2465.29,2467.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh lovely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2468.36,2469.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And which was very hard for her to get that. Why was I asking all those silly questions, you know. Yeah. 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You you come on there and you, you see a sparkle and how she.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2536.69,2540.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e By accident, you felt you you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2541.1,2542.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Wound up. Yeah. You try, you try everything, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2542.75,2545.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you manage to categorize it as sex? I mean, first you started with it. You say start this. You just assume this was stockings. 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You know, she, she sometimes she did and sometimes also Yvonne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2644.61,2652.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Would ask questions too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=2652.59,2653.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah. Not always. 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Method you could adopt. I had done this kind of interviewing with adults. And then you can, you can then put someone and trace of a certain logic you want to add. You will follow and maybe not the first time, but when you insist and you ask over and over, finally they will get get it, get you a point and they will deliver. But you know nothing. 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Do you watch TV? What's your school song?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=3016.73,3020.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=3022.95,3023.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=3024.27,3024.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=3025.59,3025.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=3028.68,3028.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But you don't know. 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The whole religion shit. You know, the Lord said. Yeah. There's nothing to die. You can be dead tomorrow. That that I. I end my story like that. You can be. 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And then now it's stopped by the police. But they meant to, Felicity. But on our normal change, that is up till now, this is gonna change. We have no right to make publicity. But you made a bet. You made a whole hell of a lot of publicity. Yeah, but she thought. Because. And that was, you know, a kind of a funny issue in the film that this, this whole action of the government and this is working, that this whole action of the government against this pirates, this pirate station was a big thing in the in the headlines. And so baby talks about it every all the time because the family of Debbie was watching this pirate station every day was just, you know, that had a real whiff of the Dutch pirates in the sea. 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And I like the look she. That's right. How she got on it. I said, you like all that shooting and killing and all that. Yeah, I like it, but I don't like to kill myself. But you can get you can be dead tomorrow. You know this as you go through it, but. You see this? This was one. No, but I played in a rather demagogic, gothic way on the the interior situation, the popular situation in using this material. 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You know, so I, I can say this was the first time that material came my way, which I. Had the feeling would work out well, but I use this for different reasons. 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No, that. Yeah. That means that material came my way. That would work nicely for other reasons than I used it. You see, I don't understand when I do a film about blind kids, I don't have the feeling that people will love me for it or that will be very popular a bit. But here I had the inky, inky inkling, the anything, the inkling that people would like it. And what do you say? And that was the reason. And that was not the reason. The reason why I use it. I use it to give a description. Are you looking to pin down these these these million people who. 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Yes. But it's not. Yeah, but it was not my preoccupations. It was. It was not the change of men, which was which I was preoccupied with. I was preoccupied with demonstrating that by by situating Betty and. Through the TV program she dropped that you would say, oh, she's that kind of girl because she she looks at least this TV presuppose that this, that, that, that these people were looking at TV. Okay. I there was no protest against this TV. It was I just used it as a natural part of of her background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=4687.47,4730.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You see. But you feel that she really reflected Holland this time. 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Who made the film?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=4743.51,4767.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. 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He manages to get in touch with our reality because he has this social notion and and what I absolutely haven't. And the first time maybe I got some of that B is that he he has at one hand the notion of what is socially playing and the other when he has no clue how to sell it to the to the people, to sell it back, to sell real stuff back to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=4976.96,5012.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think that you think that up to now that you have up to back, you haven't been able to sell the people the things you've done? Oh, do you think what? 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You think that Bryce goes, what's what's the name? Freshman. Freeman. Yeah. Brightman has been. And has made it in a sense, because he has married the two, the two aspects working for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5054.11,5074.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So many people. Yeah, but family has not. Never had this. He has never wondered it this way. 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And you had the feeling that it didn't change anything in the in the context of our film making music and the interviews with the guys, I would like to to reach out to guys I was more or less hoping to work with to, to to be a mean in communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5164.73,5185.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e With the, the critics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5185.88,5187.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, the, the filmmakers, the, you know, or even the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5188.19,5191.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Criticism of what how did you know the the narration?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5192.54,5194.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that is just that the thing, you know, just I don't know. 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And so that was a tradition that would make them say that he was not one of the he is not one of the Oh, yes. It's something like Christ said, you know, one of the blessed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5206.7,5226.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, sure. I have only seen this one. 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Oh, I will, you see, to get the all these people that. That I would like to talk to you. To look even at my work. It took me two and a half years on TV, you know, TV you always miss. And also. 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Well, on the weakest of the smallest society. Do you. Come on. How do. You say you go on, you say you come on on the smallest society. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5375.61,5393.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, this has nothing to say on a certain moment. People have to sit down, switch on the TV set and look. Yeah. And it comes out that most of the people who are has a cultural interest. I think this goes throughout Europe are more or less NDTV. 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I mean, every time, every time I consider it as a TV show or something like that says, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5437.58,5447.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, but there is no. 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I'll show you. Sorry. I know you feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5627.76,5631.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, but in this game. We end up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5632.64,5639.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Making. 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And it's all the work to strong success.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5677.52,5688.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How many?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5690.47,5690.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to have it like a 100%, almost 90% or some 90 degrees or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5692.96,5699.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The 9090.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5699.8,5700.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5701.94,5701.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e More than 55, you know, 90 degrees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5703.01,5705.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That was good. 90 proof. Yeah. 100, 100 proves 50 degrees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5706.07,5709.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e 145 degrees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5710.48,5712.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, England is changing now. They're coming on the centimeter system and they're going yeah, yeah, they're going and they're going on a decimal system, not their money, but they're sons. 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This is a revolution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5736.46,5737.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah. And not the driving right there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5739.52,5743.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No no, no. Can you still drive in this thing and play with that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5744.98,5750.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you play some back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5750.38,5751.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't play a thing, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5751.79,5753.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It doesn't bother me at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5754.22,5755.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But do admit you didn't play back, Habibi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5756.38,5758.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I did. She wasn't interested. No. Quit stroking the microphone. Yeah, but that's not my problem. Well, you know much more than that. But she's got a place in Baghdad where you can get pretty. Yes, but I get it. What I'm going to do is just absolutely exhaust you. We're just going to talk and talk and talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5760.07,5788.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that's okay with me. 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It puzzles pneumatic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5796.91,5797.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Workers to plain conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5798.29,5799.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, but this puzzles me. I hate conversation. That's true. What do you got?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5800.45,5805.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I only jump well once or twice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5805.72,5807.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No. When? When you feel that I might have something to say about another subject, you jump to the other two, which is. All right. 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I just tell you it's good because I have the feeling at that moment that I would have much more to tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5827.47,5833.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e On the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5834.76,5834.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On, on the, on the, on the first thing. 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Because actually, if I wanted to be secretive with you, I show that each of these questions have gone further toward what I'm really interested in about. And that some of these others, other things have been interesting in themselves, but not where I thought, really? What? I'm looking for the secret, you know. I'm looking for your secret. Whatever it is, is, you know, and so I keep sliding on these things, you know, making, making lengths to get to you. But I think you, because you've been defending yourself all the way through the evening. You've been pinning yours up to the last 15, 30 minutes. The last 30 minutes. You haven't been defending yourself anymore. Now I'm getting you. But the first and the first hour and a half I've been getting. I've been getting better. Cook and interviewed by Amanda Cook. And very correct. Very, very true. Very honest. 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And and then and denotation of the thing is, is it, you know, to me sliding on the thing. Yeah. Because the word out of the train of thought isn't the same thing. But I've been, I've been sliding door, I've been sliding door I think is more and more things that somehow is you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5948.98,5968.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Know, maybe or I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5969.08,5969.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Can and you know, but I do give you credit. But no. And it's I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5970.01,5975.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hope that I'm lucid enough to know when I'm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5976.07,5977.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Being pushed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5978.8,5979.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When I'm being pushed, but that when I am at. When I'm looking. Shit. When I just talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5980.87,5988.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We've been talking shit this evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5988.55,5989.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, but when I talk just out of a situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5990.05,5991.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I think for the last half hour there has been nothing that it's been. Not that it hasn't been really hard. At the beginning, it was very. We were sliding around a lot. I wish I didn't didn't make it through it. Right. But. Last night hurt me. Very good. And I've been getting an awful lot of your own attitudes. Which, which? Well, which. I'm trying to push you further and say so. And and actually what? I've tried to push you door and this is very this is death for me. Because I would never tell you what I'm trying to push you towards your attitude, towards the Dutch situation, right? But because I didn't want you to. I didn't want to ask you that. I want to push you toward it. But I can tell you that I'm telling you. See?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=5993.59,6044.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6045.12,6045.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6046.74,6046.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But. Yeah, but there's one thing I object to again. Is that my attitude towards the Dutch situation is very much dominated by the things I'm living this moment. And which you witness. Yeah. And I think this is an emotion messy thing, you know, which has no which has a very limited importance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6047.34,6077.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Anything that is limited, important to what I know you think is limited, important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6080.4,6084.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6085.11,6085.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe you wish you taught it rather than ask you directly. You see, I've been using indirection. And I mean, I think you brought up many things about BP, which are good and everything, but I mean, but through BP, I've been ask you questions. Who has dealt with the society? I mean, it was calculated on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6086.34,6109.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e My part, you know, the Dutch society, you know, the Dutch films.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6109.76,6112.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6112.73,6113.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the situation with fish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6114.23,6116.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. But. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6116.72,6118.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But. And there's a play that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6118.73,6120.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It is very condition conditions very much. That situation. Now, now I can ask you about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6120.92,6129.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's also conditioned by yeah I wish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6130.4,6132.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But ever since I've known you, man, you've been conditioned by that society and you've been revolting against it. And you were revolting. Its Dutch society in France. And? But. No. And I. And I'm not telling you things that I shouldn't be telling you so. No, but I'm telling you now. My method, which am I have a method now for it. That. But I'm just. I'm only telling you because I think it'll work for me to tell you, you know? But part of that method is the fact that is to get persons in the situation which will provoke them into even further revelations, you know, but I think that we were right at a point now where I tell you that, I mean, we need to realize that we're not. And the whole thing is, is that what I want to get at is the depth situation, actually, and, and and the influence, the flukes, the flukes of society here, the influencing Europe. You're thinking in Europe. Your revolt as a filmmaker. And what it does mean is working very subterranean toward it. And you think? You think I've been changing subjects all the time. But I haven't quit. I've been just moving toward it. So it does seem so. Yeah. Toward Dutch society. And so, I mean, your situation in the society. Which is not the same thing as what the society is. But, I mean, your problem as a filmmaker in this society. I screwed it up. I'm telling you, I believe it. Because you're in. Because now you're going to come out with a considered opinion. Which is not what I wanted. You gave me a lot more earlier. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6133.79,6258.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I hate to give up. Unconsidered opinion anyway. Make me feel bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6259.33,6264.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I know it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6265.09,6265.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Because when you said you are and I do, you know, I know very well. And you're trying to provoke me anti-war TV.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6265.9,6273.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6273.93,6273.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You're trying to provoke me. And I feel that very much. And I don't know what you're saying. So I think, well, what now can I say to make a reasonable impression? And that might not be your aim, to have me behave reasonably without having anything to say. And that was what I was doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6275.19,6291.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And then you're playing again, getting to. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6291.78,6294.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Yeah. No, that was what I felt. So. I didn't know that I was intending because I said, I'm going to try and call me and check one thing and then another thing be without any relevance, which I which I can grasp. Maybe he can grasp. What am I going to say, you know, to who you which.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6294.87,6322.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you already. Know what you aren't, and you know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6323.43,6327.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In fact, if I am, and by the attitude I'm entitled to you and ITV attitude which people inflict on me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6327.6,6337.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You're against the antique. You have to. Yeah. Especially when there's a clip of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6338.84,6344.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6344.72,6344.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I going to fix it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6347.04,6349.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But. What is it that you like to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6351.89,6356.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I cannot say I like me. I just have to accept that it is there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421#t=6360.44,6364.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262421/transcript/76733/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And you considered a something different? 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Hardly any. Hardly any long shots. And some other things. You know, you got to keep up. So certain. I found out that you can have, you know, shot on a big screen. 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Not the lights, yeah. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=100.69,108.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In England you have 500 and something like that, in the United States you have 800. I think we have 800, yeah. 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I did too, in the olive trees. I used to be Ted Manning. In interviews. I mean, pardon me. There are four interviews in the Olive Trees. Interviews which have been premeditated. But which are nevertheless some of us just falling right onto the face. And for four, so that was a minute and a half. And there's three minutes, and there's four minutes, and there is five and a 1. And uh... Excuse me, you just can't lie in that moment, and you can't, uh, and your face tells what's going on. Mm-hmm. That seems to me a tremendous thing of TV. Mm-hm. American TV doesn't use it very much. 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Why is that? TV uses 16. Yeah. What we were talking about this afternoon, that in 16, you... It's so small that you can't... I think it would be silly to try... To try to work out, you know, emptinesses in your frame, spatial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=218.16,237.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But you do use emptiness in your friend. Yeah, but not to the extent in the chart, in the blind kind. What do you say in that? Blink-kint. Blink kint, yeah. The blind kind, super-blind kind. This is a very nice title, too, you know. The blind kint. The blind kinds. Ça veut dire, le genre, l'espèce. Le genre, the l' espèce de l'esprit, yeah? 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Most part of the viewers, but I think intellectually I think it's a better title than Blind Child, because Blind Child in English would mean a lot of sentimentalism, whereas Blind Kind cuts through the sentimentalism and this is what you're doing in the last part of film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=286.2,323.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But anyway, in, uh, 35... What I would like to do now is to use much more spatial. Maybe that might be inspired by her paintings, I don't know, but I think so. What do you mean when you say special? Uh, special, uh... Not space, but in the, there's a, oh yeah. Yeah, what? 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What does it mean? 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On this projector. Yeah, but it is not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=401.08,403.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why is it not true?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=404.45,405.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Because it is not only this, it is also not a proportional Jatakismal. 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And it is, of course, I think, the respect you feel for 35 as being the accepted cinema, which is a completely emotional, crazy emotional thing. 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Yeah And that was tied up with this whole technique writing a scenario and then you send a move to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=695.55,704.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you equate reliquary with planning ahead of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=705.66,709.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe, yeah. Yeah, yeah, largely. Achterglas is interesting because most of it is rolly-cord, made up shots. And then halfway, I got my Leica, and you see the difference in the kind of shot. I showed that to you once, sometimes, and you see that the notion of freedom came in and I had been like that maybe for 10 days, you know, immediately you get different mentalities. Crazy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=709.59,741.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's still both of us. It's me, it's both of- Oh jeez, that means mentality. 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You don't sense the space. You sense the real space. What do you mean? 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You see, it's a fake talk image. In a roll-eye, it doesn't have that feeling, but it's interesting. Because the moment you have this projected image... You're on the map! You can work on that, on the ground class, you can work with that, and I think more of that feeling is in 35, I would like...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=817.86,855.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it lead you to do? What? The ground glass. 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What does mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=863.1,864.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it lead you to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=865.04,866.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It does lead me to consider, which I wouldn't do shooting in 60 in Leica. In Leica I am full of attention on what is going on outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=866.56,878.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In a rolly, you consider what's on the ground.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=884.709,887.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And say maybe I change it. That way I get a more interesting relationship, to a certain extent of course in the Leica I can play this game also, because I have enough skill to do that, but as you know basic mentality I think that's the difference, but of course I can make raw eye focus with the Leika, I can do that easily. I can compose and figure out and study the effect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=887.84,924.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I only got a few bits on this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=927.24,928.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Cartier-Messon is concerned with what is happening in reality, his frame is, maybe in his brain he has something like this, behind his eye he has a... He has a mirror frame. He has it, he has it. A rectangle. Absolutely fantastic, yeah. Behind his eye must be a rectangle and everything just naturally fits in. It's lovely. You know, you never sense a contraint, he never forces it into this shape, which is the problem, and Robert Frank is the only successor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=930.69,974.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You think that after Cathy Besson, it was only over a time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=976.52,979.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, only the one that's fine with me. Klein is another excitement. Klein I love, but it's another discipline. Why? I don't know. Klein is a painter, of course. These other guys have, you know, Cartier-Bresson really made photography. Oh no, the first one was Adjé.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=979.34,1005.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You think that really R.J. Is a predecessor of Kate DeBresson? I think that's the same. Because his work is terribly E.R.I.T. E. R.I... Had ya? Yeah, had ya. No? Quiet. Oh, yeah, but this whole place is awesom-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1005.97,1024.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But this whole factor of movement within the frame is to me not important for photography, the moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1026.159,1034.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Captured by someone is, nevertheless, terribly, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1034.94,1037.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He's involved with that, but I think it's more in that, yes, you have the movement of the classical movement. Why things that don't move and cut through the stone has made still lives important and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1038.42,1050.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Because Adjaye, you know, let's leave him in the still one. I mean, it's all like he has people, he has a, he has a marshal de cap'nant, and a marsal de capnant standing, or somebody sitting on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1050.759,1064.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But I didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1066.38,1066.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A rock or something next to a wall or something like, almost all of that jazz footage is still people extracted from movement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1067.12,1075.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It has also to do with the state of the technique, of course. I have a marvelous book of photographs. And the only thing about it is the art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1076.13,1084.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the only thing about it is the fact that these things are all too much dynamically composed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1082.93,1090.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but that's what I was aiming at, which is also a bit...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1091.1,1094.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, it had nothing to do with the old, the old aspect of the painting as a type, you know, where a type that used to resemble painting actually moved away from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1095.2,1107.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think that he was always in that direction, if his object is moving or not, per ampere. To me, to get, he only moving or still objects, he takes in such a, in such phase.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1108.53,1126.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh shit, I can't move!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1128.09,1129.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Clientele.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1130.5,1130.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait, what's that one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1131.76,1132.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It takes in such a phase, or such an angle, that they get moving as plastic elements. It's really strange. And that's the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1132.6,1143.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And you, have you been doing much to protect me, Lennie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1148.0,1151.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Lately, no. Because I was doing films.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1152.05,1155.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why are you even possessed more by films than by anything? Why are even possessed by films more than anything? I don't know exactly. It's all started out as film. It's photography. You started out more as still. You started with light, with a little bit of light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1155.66,1173.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It took me a long time to get the idea of films.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1173.57,1176.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What I want to know is what you found in the film that the Rolex and the Leica later allowed you to find. Because I know, this is to the side and will not be published, but I know that you have found something from your Likert and Molybdx experience that nothing else has, that none of us who have worked for films uniquely have found. And this is just because I like you very much, I tell you that. But when I saw the film today, I realized that you know how to make the whole, the whole... Frame operate. No Dutch photographer knows how to make it, nor no American. And that you have been able to make operate the whole goddamn frame. And I sense that, especially toward the end of the film. Because you've shot it yourself, you know, and I'm not going to publish it because it's too, too intimate. But I think that, I think you did. You made, you made a whole goddamn frame operate as a piece of, as a, as an emotional influence. And part of it is the way you brought it in. But, uh... What really hit me was that I sensed that it was, I wasn't, I was no longer watching the anecdotal subject with the play of light and dark, the image itself operated on me. From a kind of a neutral ground, too. Take when you shoot somebody. I don't know. You place your camera about here, about where you place it, which is not far from what everybody places. But it's just off enough to make it read. That's the strength. I don' know. You place it off. Is this your resolution? You place higher than the level of the name. Just enough higher so it's... This is the first time I've seen this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1178.36,1319.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Isn't this an interpretation of yours?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1320.69,1323.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sure it is, yeah. No, it isn't. I wonder, I don't know. It's a little... What I'm asking is... That is the influence of the lichen and the... That's right, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1324.79,1342.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There's one thing. There's ONE thing. 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Standpoint.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1438.54,1442.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When I would take a photo... When I will take a photograph... From that position of this little boy, it would be a very ordinary picture. But no movie director would worry about that, as he knows that in the continuity of his film, this ordinary picture works fine. But I keep seeing this as a... All of a sudden I see one single picture. I say, no, that's possible. You see, this is a dubious thing, and maybe that's why... The average of what I leave in really makes an impact as a frame, because otherwise it would puzzle me. 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What is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1536.81,1537.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Because uh is it enough take because this might end up more takes later uh because for the movie i know it's correct that i left it shut in and as a photo i would have thrown it away","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1538.19,1560.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't even know what it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1561.25,1561.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Because as a movie maker, the first thing I have to do is continuity, movement, context, time, these three things have to keep moving, and after that I worry about the plastic quality of the frame, about tension within the frame.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1563.81,1585.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you ever feel that framing can be to the contrary? 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I'm shoting it in the continuity of freedom. Maybe it's time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1640.87,1660.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Could be a possibility at times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1662.44,1663.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the movement within the frame, movement coming from the other shot, Goglum in this one, the time it takes, and the story context it is in. The necessity in the continuity of the film should be superior or primary to the necessity of the tension or the beauty or the impact of this frame itself. I think that impact should stick itself to this continuity. And the photographer is only interested in this impact, in this one moment. And maybe he may edit his photos later on, he may do whatever he wants. 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And there's a very definite difference. And these are two ideas of seeing which work completely against each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1714.93,1734.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you find it difficult to get over yourself? You're looking for that moment, which in a sense of memos... Almost magnetic, you know, indicated something meaningful in a still moment by a still gesture, a gesture still. Almost in the sense that the old drama, the dramatical actors pose, you know, that kind of thing, the still photographer captures the moment, indicates, symbolizes to our mind something, even though the persons involved do not necessarily in themselves feel that particular emotion. It's just something about the gesture. I remember seeing something Bruce Davidson's, I don't know, sit on... Vietnam and Korea. To me, as your mom and I, it just did a thing on me. It's fantastic. Tremendously affected by those tests. You realize naturalism, thinking. The reason they're working is because those gestures have been found within everyday life. Which, when reproduced, indicate just the cliché of the emotion, you know? But the fact that they somehow have been produced by a regular life, you now? Sell this in everyday life. 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But the gesture itself is emotional enough that it communicates a powerful much...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1843.98,1857.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But there's one thing that of course emotion isn't indicated or limited or delineated by certain geometrical relationships. This is by no means fear, because you need a facial expression and the whole context around it. No, but the cliché is this, the sign, if you would have to put a sign at the border of a road, you know, take care folks, you have two hands coming like this maybe, you stylize it, like you have the jumping deer, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1857.82,1909.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e On the side of the road you put a sign.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417#t=1910.21,1911.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262417/transcript/79357/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But it doesn't transmit the emotion of it, because the emotion is made out of the matière. 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They'll know him in France. He's uh, he's a man about 55 now, slim, very, very Jean Lescure, and, but the point is he has served on such committees as the Jean Vigo Prize Committee and this sort of thing, and he would probably be not an interesting person to talk to, an interesting person put you on to people. If you, if you sort of found, I I can't even guess that he will be, but I think... You know, as I say, he does serve on the Jean Vigo award thing, which I think happens every year. 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I don' know if it would be interesting except to hear my speech. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262414#t=52.43,66.04"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262414/transcript/79352","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262414/transcript/79352/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/352/original/trint_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p1_transcript.vtt?1746655866","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/352/original/trint_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p1_transcript.vtt?1746655866"}]}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 4 of 5 - Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p2.mp3"]},"duration":1024.57469,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415/content/4/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/262/415/original/Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p2.mp3?1739227959","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":1024.57469,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415/transcript/79353","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AUTO_TRINT_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p2.mp3 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415/transcript/79353/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Dustin, Dustin, Dustin, Dustin, Stuart Rome in this compilation of ten acting lessons gives us advice about types. We should learn to have a type. By specialization one builds up a reputation in the film world. There are so many thousands of aspirants to screen honors these days that unless one does specialize, one can scarcely hope to attract the attention of the British film producer. And there are other methods of specialization. Make it your business to play certain small parts. Observe what a number of outstanding small part characters are in the screenplays. Personally, I know several girls who are doing remarkably well by specializing in made, in quotes, parts. One girl especially is seldom disengaged. She's been playing made parts now for several years, but she's built up a reputation for all around good acting and representation of any type of mate. And she's in great demand by the producers, from the dainty little Parisian Femme de Chambre who dresses madame's hair to this latinly made-of-all-work who scrubs the boarding house passageway with her hair and curling papers. At four o'clock in the afternoon... This girl made it her duty to study these various types of maid. She did not go to the cinema to watch other film maids, but learned her lesson from life. During our holidays, she has made it a duty to go around and study the various habits, faults, feelings, and good points of the numerous varieties of servants to be found in London. Then I know men whose special lines are, respectively, brothers, priests, and bookmakers. Let it be noted that to make headway in such special lines, one's features must be suited to the lines selected. You've chosen your type. Study it from every viewpoint. Never miss an opportunity for adding some little grain to your store of knowledge about your type, then get busy work hard and you should be soon in demand. Types of actors and actresses required. Same book, tactical, advanced study by Miss Jose Collins, value of training and so forth. She says, know thyself, study yourself and there's no better way than by seeing yourself on the screen or in your dressing table mirror. Get to know yourself intimately, become familiar with your own little false feelings and mannerisms and when you study the script, you will soon know if it will be necessary for you to become someone else for the time being or not. But say after you have carefully studied the character, you discover that it is absolutely contrary to your own, well as then you have an opportunity of proving your own as an artist. For a few moments, we will imagine that you are even-tempered, good-natured, level-headed. But because your personal appearance coincides with the author's representation of his villainous, the producer has a lot to do this part. Of course, you cannot imagine yourself a bold, bad, adventurous type of woman, but you realize that a call has been made on your talent. You have to sync your own personality and temperament in the last genio one of the scripts. Imagine you are, say, Elizabeth Carruthers, villainous, heartless, unrelenting, cold, and domineering. Forget that you are you. Read the script through until the character is so familiar to you that you feel that Elizabeth is really alive. If you are possessed of the recognized amount of talent, this will not present any great difficulty. Now, after a few quiet hours of your script, you have conquered Elizabeth's nature so far you are familiar with it. When you next select your clothes, Nature conquered, clothes obtained, you are now waiting to bring Elizabeth to life. There must be no sidestepping, no introduction of mannerisms which you're not in keeping with the character. You rely entirely on the producer for although you are familiar with the scenes as written as the producer, the guiding hand of all screen work, who knows just how much rage, disappointment, or joy is necessary for you to register in any one scene. You can see you as your audience will see you when the film is complete. Now, this is a lesson. This is lesson nine in the same book written by uh, by Violet Hopson. Ronald Hobson, Chapter 4, How to Help Yourself. Different producers have different methods of production and they have various ways of testing beginners for small parts, one of the best known of which is the letter procedure. Potential star is given a letter during the reading of which their facial expression must vary, giving the audience some idea of the text of the letter, obviating perhaps its reproduction on the screen. I have often watched as many as ten beginners go through such a course, and one would hardly believe the numerous ways the same feeling of joy or grief can be expressed on various faces. I will give you an example, certainly a highly improbable one, but serving well enough to illustrate my meaning. Dear Mary, when we last met I was a clerk in Manford store, and now by good luck and moderate endeavor I have become manager. Number one. I know you will be pleased to learn that my future is assured. But at the same time you will realize that I cannot marry beneath my station. Three. I feel that I shall be making you happy. Four. By releasing you from your promise to marry me. Five. Although it upsets me more than I can say to do so. Six. But do so I must under existing circumstances and this is my final word. Seven. My mother has matched me to a rich dowager who is fat but very good-natured and I must try to be worthy of her. A word in time, Mary, I don't want to frighten you, but I overheard your old flame-hairy say if he saw you again, he would murder you. Nine. And so forth. Now, there's no man on earth I hope who would write a letter like that to a girl, but it serves as a vehicle for illustration of the quickly changing emotions that the producer might demand of an artiste. Throughout the letter, after certain phrases, I have inserted a number at which point the features of the reader would have to express some such emotions as these. One, surprise, two, pleasure, three, disgust, four, uncertainty, five, indignation, six, mollification, seven, rage, eight, mirth, nine, terror. It is not easy to suggest in mere words how these sensations should be expressed. Illustration is worth the world of explanation. The simple and correct mode of acquiring any knowledge is founded on the formula. Explanation, demonstration, imitate. So for the moment I must content myself with the best explanation I can make. One, surprise. Calls for a look of wonder, but wide-eyed, lips slightly apart. Two, pleasure. I can't indicate more than a pleased smile. Three, disgust, a petulant look, corners of the mouth drooping. Four, uncertainty, puckered brows. Five, indignation, brow heavily puckered, lips tightened. Six, mollification, features relax into a tolerant smile. Seven, rage, look up laying letter down and show real anger. Eight, mirth, in this case... In this case, rather a wistful smile and nine terror as patrons of the turf would say, all out. It's a surprise and pleasure to see one another naturally, but disgust at this stage is difficult. Uncertainty is not hard to follow with, but an elusive and tricky expression to realize. Indignation is easy, but the malafied look must be artistically done to convey anything. The sudden transition from rage to mirth is very trying, and the contrast is great. The more so as terror follows immediately after. Which may become identical with rage if the actor does not carefully rehearse both. A mirror is obviously going to be your most useful instructor. Practice in front of it as long as you can, and endeavor to register the expression you think best indicates the emotion you desire to convey. This is Clintus Brockwell, and the same thing, lesson ten. She talks about the differences, and she says acting alone counts on the screen. A few titles are used to help the action and explain the story. Fear, anger, joy, sorrow, cunning, deceit, illness, all must be shown principally through facial expression. The lowering of the eyelids, the turning of the corners of the mouth, the lifting of the eyebrows, the angle of the head, all have their intimate connection with showing the intensity of the story. I had learned many new tricks when I began acting for the camera. I watched during the making of the pictures and when I arrived at home, I studied all I had seen. The fact that the camera was somewhat different than the audience in a theater was brought home to me to effectively one day. I had a courtroom scene to enact. Since the entire action at that particular point centered around me, the camera focused on me alone in what are called close-ups, and semi-close-ups that is. The other characters, that is the other characters in the courtroom, were excluded, and only a part of the courtroom itself was shown. I did a fine piece of acting. In fact, several spectators complimented me. I did not know, however, that the producer had stopped the camera soon after I began to work. A few minutes after, I had finished the scene and felt quite proud. The producer came to me and said, Ms. Brockwell, that was fine acting, but it won't do for the camera. You moved your face and your body around too fast. You must get the emotions you feel on to the film through slower action and more facial expression. You must show this tiger-like feeling to the camera with your eyes and your mouth from the tilt of your head. Let's try it again, and this time keep facing more toward the camera. That was a lesson I never forgot. The action of your body must be slower for the camera, and you must crowd your emotions into your expressions. A man on the A man on the stage leaving a woman who has thwarted him will probably declare, I will make you pay for this and walk off the stage. But for the camera he will walk to the door and then turn and show his threat by the expression on his face. I think the thrill on the screen way is greater because there is a deep expectancy about that man's expression that makes audiences look forward to his return and to the trick he intends to put into force to injure the girl. The screen gives so much more space for the entire telling of the tale that does the stage and naturally much more acting is required. It is in this necessity for continued and varied expression that the able stage actor fails in pictures. And taking it the other way around, many men and women who could not act on the stage can do magnificent work for the screen. It's funny that the fact that there's more space has been noticed before here. Fill up space. I don't think I mentioned it, but the first guy, Stuart Rome, I think, was saying that more space meant you could do more things with it. Of course, acting on the stage has been a great aid to most of those entering motion pictures. The screen is crowded with stage actors and actresses. But there are hundreds of successful screen artists who have never been near a stage, and the chance for them in pictures are as good today as ever. Both for the speaking stage and for the screen, one must study the hair and the ways to make it look pretty. Now, clothing for the stage and the screen differ only in color. Every color you wear shows on the stage, but the camera chooses to show reds and blacks and greens running only through the black and white. The lighter and darker effects of each being shown by varying the darker and lighter colors. The cameraman will usually assist you in this regard. If you have a part and if you are playing extra in the crowd, you must watch the screen for these effects. You should notice particularly what kind of colors the star, if she be a woman, and the leading lady wear, and notice too how they appear on the screen. As regards makeup, it is hard to set down rules and regulations. Almost every actress uses a different combination of makeup. Much depends on the color and texture of your skin and on the color of your eyes and the size of them. I know that many motion picture actresses give rules and regulations, but I believe the safest way is to have you try combinations of your own until you get the one that suits your face. You must make a study of the stars and the other women and men. You will learn arts of acting and you may get many hints on makeup. Only the other day I saw a man whose makeup was so heavy, put on so thickly, that he retarded his facial expression. He had this makeup when he was rich and when he was poor and had suffered misery daily. Certainly a man doesn't look the same under both circumstances. He must show lines of worry and struggle in poverty. Watch for these changes. Again, a mother happy at 30 certainly looks different at 50 if she be in reduced circumstances or in poverty.\" This applies to men too, only I think men show the changes more in their dress and women more in their faces. This is the Senate hearing on propaganda and motion pictures, hearings before a subcommittee of the Committee on Interstate Commerce, United States Senate, 77th Congress, first session on SRES 152, September 9th, the 26th, 1941. On page one Museum. A resolution is written. It's kind of frightening when you think about it. This is September the 1st, 1941. That's before we go into war. The resolution has been asked to be placed in the record of our hearings, but first it is short and I have to read it. This is, uh, who is this speaking? I don't know. Anyway, resolution. Whereas the motion picture screen and the radio are the most important instruments of communication of ideas, and whereas numerous charges have been made that the motion pictures and the radio have been extensively used for propaganda purposes, purposes designed to influence the public mind in the direction of participation in the European war, and whereas all of this propaganda has been directed Whereas all of this propaganda has been directed to one side of the important debate now being held, not only in Congress but throughout the country, and whereas this propaganda reaches weakly the eyes and ears of 100 million people and is in the hands of groups interested in involving the United States in war, therefore be it resolved that the Committee on Interstate Commerce, or any duly authorized subcommittee thereof, is authorized and directed to make and to report to the Senate the results of a thorough and complete investigation of any propaganda disseminated by motion pictures and radio or any other activity of the motion picture industry to influence public sentiment and the direction of participation by the United States in the present European war. The Committee on Interstate Commerce or any duly authorized subcommittee thereof is authorized directed to obtain such facts as other government agencies may have. And to secure the assistance of other government agencies in the investigation hereby authorized. The purpose of this resolution, the committee, or any duly authorized subcommittee thereof is to authorize to hold such hearings, to sit and act at such times and places, either in the District of Columbia or elsewhere during the sessions, recesses, and adjourned periods of the Senate in the 77th and subsequent Congresses, to employ such experts and clericals, stenographic and other assistants, to acquire by subpoena or otherwise the attendance of such witnesses in production, and impounding of such books, papers, and documents to administer such oaths and to take such estimati, and to make such expenditures as it deems advisable. The cost of Stenographic Service to report such hearings shall not be in excess of 25 cents per 100 words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415#t=6.739,1018.85"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415/transcript/79353","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262415/transcript/79353/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/353/original/trint_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p2_transcript.vtt?1746655871","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/353/original/trint_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p2_transcript.vtt?1746655871"}]}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 5 of 5 - Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p3.mp3"]},"duration":6942.2498,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/content/5/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/262/422/original/Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p3.mp3?1739228245","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":6942.2498,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AUTO_TRINT_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p3.mp3 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In the Special American Issue of Coyote Cinema, January 64. This is Mark Carell's article for United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, Lerixinum Esthetic, a reality report by Louis Martin Mark Carel. 30Th of December, 1964, that was contributed by UNESCO to the Manheim Roundtable meeting sponsored by UNESCO. Ah, he quotes Godard in Kairu Cinema of January 64. Godard criticized Leacock in the following terms. Leacok and his team do not realize that when the eye composes a frame in the viewfinder, it is both more and less than the recording equipment which the eye directs. While the degree varies, it never remains a mirror or recording instrument, but exceeding to, according to circumstances, remains a recording instrument or becomes a pen or a brush. And Leacock fails to direct. Goudar's mistake lies in identifying the seventh arc with a scripted film, the only kind of cinema he knows. An obsession with style above all leads him to confuse the role of a film director with that of the artist in the conventional disciplines, painting, music, literature, where the realism is inevitably restricted. Although the new techniques offer him a unique opportunity of capturing life at the source, revealing things that no novelist, painter, or musician can, he simply refuses, constantly interrupting the continuity of his films, reveling in the capriciousness of his choice. His world alone counts, not the real one. Shooting a sketch in 16mm last winter with Albert Maisel's cameraman, Godard had two young non-professional actors in a tiny artist studio in Montparnasse. They improvised from an outline script written by the director. Maisel camera stalks them meanwhile straight away, capturing expressions, postures, gesture, synchronous sound restoring the sound equivalent. Of this quasi-free exercise, the thing that attracted Gauda was the opportunity of heightening the surprise effects he liked so much, and of using a moving camera to seize upon unexpected attitudes in his characters. But this improvisation does not derive from his characters or from their physical reality. As in nine-tenths of the classical cinema, he exploits the external picturesqueness of a silhouette, a glance, or a voice. Cinema is always supremely sleight of hand, for the myth of a good art distorts reality in order to impose his own vision of a world of people, whereas Leacock believes that in itself the world has more to reveal than any fiction. The truly synchronous camera is no longer an artist's brush or writer's pen, but a penetrating eye, which human vision can hardly rival. If we must have fiction, Jean-Rouche shows how it can be introduced, not despite these people being friend, but in complexity with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6.97,196.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mario Ruspoli, United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. Towards a New Film Technique in the Developing Countries, the Lightweight Synchronized Cinemagraphic Unit by Mario Ruspoli, Paris 29, September 1964. UNESCO's Contribution to the Second Beirut Roundtable on Arab Cinema and Culture, 28th to 30th, October 1963. The dream cherished by the great pioneers of life, some women like Ziga Vertov and Robert Flaherty's coming true, the dream of immediately and continuously synchronized filming was a method of investigating and revealing the behavior of men. This sort of ties in with the misrepresentation of Flaherty's intentions in a way. Under Chapter One, Background, the Sonnet Realism period, was fully... Characterizes the ethnologically of it as being a desire to seize the image of reality as it appears to the eye, which, he says, goes back to the very beginning of films. First newsreels and documentaries films like The Coronation of Edward VII, Louis Blario Crossing the Channel, and many others show how profoundly the filmmakers of the silent period were interested by actual events. In a deeper sense, the main concern of some of the great pioneers in the period after the 1914-1918 war was to film people in the course of their daily life in their actual setting away from the studio and to give the camera the status of an eyewitness. Dziga Vertov, the Russian filmmaker who saw the cinema as a revolutionary weapon in the social struggle, brought the camera down into the street and his film, The Man with a Camera, in 1929. Beginning in 1922, he produced a newsreel, the famous Kino Pravda, in 12 installments. The literal translation of Kino pravda's cinema verite truth cinema became a fashionable expression and by a series of misunderstandings it was eventually used, as it still is, to cover a wide variety of attempts by filmmakers to produce experimental ethnographic or sociological films. Taking a different standpoint, the great Robert Flaherty set out alone for the Arctic in 1922 and filmed the life of Nanook of the North. In 1926, he produced Moana, a film about life in Polynesia, which was shot in Samoan Islands, and another on the life a Fisher family in the island of Aran, Man of Arran. By virtue of his film discovery of man, to which he devoted his life with a passionate love for truth, Flaerty, an ethnographer poet, unique of his kind. Became, with Vertov, the profit of the present generation of ethnographic and documentary filmmakers. The end of the silent period of the thirties, until the outbreak of the war, was characterized by the magnificent and uncompromisingly realistic works of such filmmakers as Yara Stevens, George Ruquier, Arnie Stork, Jean Vigo, Louis Bunuel, John Epstein, and John Gerson. Ah, one has to understand what he's talking about here. After the war, some of these, Rukier, Farabique, 1946, and Lourdes and its Miracles, 1954, and Evans, Italy is not a poor country in 1959, and Valparaiso, 1962, continued to produce films of a very high artistic standard. Until 1960, shooting films away from the studio involved major technical problems. The unwieldedness of the old type hand-turned cameras. A way to the batteries when hand turning gave way to electric drive, the poor sensitivity of the film, lighting problems and many other difficulties made shooting extremely onerous and restricted the film maker's freedom of action. At the same time, the manufacturers thinking mainly of the tremendous commercial studio film market, which deals exclusively in 35mm films, exercised their ingenuity in producing noisy monstrosities of cameras with a paraphernalia of tripods, rails, and booms. The appearance of the first Niagara on the market in 1958 caused a sensation. Hence forward sound could emerge from the studio with a small portable machine carried on a shoulder strap that's possible to make quality sound recordings. Neo-realism, this page 8, Neo-Realism makes no effort to seize the event in Vertos' sense of the term, in other words, as it actually takes place. On the contrary, it is an absolutely artificial artistic process aimed at the construction, the reconstruction of a plausible reality. Indirectly, however, it may be said that its frank approach to human problems strongly encouraged a public taste for authenticity and prepared the way for direct cinema. Technically speaking, neorealism is completely in line with the heavy 35 millimeter cinema of the studios. It has contributed no technical innovations other than the use of tape recorders to pick up the supporting direct sounds. In 1960, Jean-Rouche met the engineer André Couton, a leading pioneer in the field of cinema technique, who, with the backing of Monsieur Matteau and Eclair, had recently designed and built a tiny camera, the KMT, weighing barely six pounds. With only slight modifications, this could be made to operate on batteries and pilot a portable recorder in accordance with the process which had laterally been developed in respect to television. The entire camera recorder microphone battery unit weighed only about twenty pounds and could easily be handled by two men sharing a weight, such was the origin of the first audio-visual synchronized unit, light in design and genuinely adapted to 16mm filming. Unfortunately it remained at the prototype stage for several years. At certain times new ideas are in the air and are borne by an international wave. In dwelling initially on a synchronized unit invented and produced in France for the assistance of Swiss recorders, it is not intended to suggest that either France or the music alum can claim to be the father of the technical adventure leading to direct cinema. Is rather because precisely from a technical angle, the prototype Kutomato Nagara recorder unit, still by far the lightest in the world, remains an avant-garde instrument, uniquely efficient and easy to handle. It's also because this well-balanced machine forms part and parcel, as it were, of the cameraman who can carry it without strain, and is thereby enabled to penetrate into a new world. Finally, it has become natural to move and live with a camera to rid it of virtually all its technical restraints. To use it as a continuous reviewer of things and men in line with Virtov's thinking in the age of the silent film. And furthermore, the technique hadn't become second nature, the cameraman keeps his ears open and is free in a way to experience the events he's filming and participate in them directly. A lightweight 16mm audio-visual, synchronized unit having thus been removed from its historical context. Which will cease to consider the heavy and burdensome 35mm equipment and concentrate on the vital discoveries resulting from application of the new tool at its employment and the direction it gives to the search for an audiovisual language. Is no longer a case of the characters wooing the camera, but of the camera moving towards characters in the process of living and trying to penetrate their secrets and capture the details of their lives and behavior. The lightweight camera, continuously carried, becomes part of the cameraman's body, replacing his eyes by a sort of extra organ, which enables him to record everything he experiences and see. To grasp and record reality. Cinema verite. The word truth is in itself so vast and complex, so full of inner and sometimes secret contradictions, and represents so fluid and yet so indivisible a concept that it can only be compared by analogy to a movement of thought. When given expression at the level of speech through the sheer impossibility of saying several things at once, like the latter, it loses part of its substance. If we split up the word truth in order to obtain truths, It loses in the simultaneity, simultaneety. It can only be given concrete form in a very broad social and collective sense at the level of a group, a community, or a nation. The human eye, like the glass eye of his camera, is unable to capture truth in its absolute sense. It can only capture certain aspects, certain instants, but not the component parts in all their simultaneity. The combination of the words cinema and truth is meaningless. The camera may be present and hidden, it may be psychoanalytical or interrogative, but it does not thereby come closer to seeing the truth, Or does it know any more about it? Than we ourselves see and know. The combination is also nonsensical in a very serious sense, as it would imply that what is filmed and recorded is true. When Zikavertov speaks of cinema truth, what is meant is that he's trying to capture not the truth, but the authenticity of events in order to use it, an essential part of his thinking, to teach and inform. It is in the context of informing, and not in that of capturing, and in that not of capturing that the word truth receives its significance in the desire to show men something of the life and triumphs of other men. Keenopravda, a literal translation of cinema truth, could never be an end in itself. It is, as Chris Marker has observed, a means, a way of knowing, and of making known through cinema and through the filmmaker. He was called upon to display. The utmost sincerity, the maximum degree of self-effacement vis-à-vis the events which he films, but must never induce. In the strict sense intended by Vertoff, the term cinema truth could only be used to designate a non-interventional research cinema documenting social life, events, the behavior of the individual, the group, and society. The approach adopted by Drew Leacock, team and primary. And Eddie Sachs, and more recently by the Maisel brothers in Schoeman, and which I myself endeavored to adapt in Les Inconnues Lateres, seems to me the closest to Vertoff's thinking. There are obviously no actors in Les Enconnus. Our aim was to carry out a survey of a have-not section of the scattered peasantry of Los Aires, of their living and working conditions, which represent a grave problem at the national and even international level. Problem of agricultural minorities clinging to their land in hilly country, unsuited to modern agriculture. We made this film in collaboration with the peasants concerned with their conscious participation and agreement after having interested them in our work. We let them speak freely of their problems as far as possible, avoiding putting any questions to them ourselves. We never stole a shot unknown to them. Eventually the film in which the The EMT operated by Bro worked miracles. Was shown to most of the peasants and wholeheartedly approved by them. While shooting, we firmly rejected three typical documentary film attitudes. One, the picturesque and paternalistic attitude, extolling the beauty of the rocks and the harmonious landscapes, the rivers abounding with fish, the typically French peasant, poor but happy because the air is good and he eats well, the eternal symphony of tourist delights. This ghastly optimism turned up to order characterizes ninety-five percent of the widely distributed The propaganda documentary attitude and the style of those supported by state agricultural and other departments. This attitude consists of setting out with ready-made ideas on the improvement of living standards resulting from the use of a given product, et cetera, and trying to justify them by slanting the material film. The television journalism attitude. A quick interview, since television has no time to go deeply into things, prepared in advance by a regular interviewer who is a television star, or improvised by a specialist in televised social surveys. These surveys always aim at the spectacular of the original, which is then boiled down to suit TV taste. The method results in the reverse of the truth. And very often distorts the personality of those concerned. Technically, it is inconceivable for a truth filmmaker to use a ridiculous term dictated by prevailing fashion to be able to work without a lightweight, synchronized unit and a team reduced to the strict minimum of three or four people. All things considered, the term direct cinema seems to be more general, less controversial, and to offer a broader definition, like Leacock's ever-living camera, of the work of some filmmakers. Uh-huh. On page 20 he gives the equipment of a crew. One 16-milliliter Eclair camera equipped with an engineered 10 to 120 zoom and portable battery. Two or three magazines of 120 meters, which should be kept loaded at 25 frames per second. A magazine lasts 10 seconds, 10 minutes. One Niagara Neopilot, or Perfect Tone recorder. One Bayer. BEYER M66 microphone fitted to a short tubular boom of some unobtrusive color length 130 meters Uncharging bag Spooler's idea about the sound engineer are rather revealing. The sound engineer is the member of the most difficult, most complex, and most important task. Recording sound in relation to the image presents a much more abstract problem than that of taking the picture itself. The sound has to govern the picture as is all the more evident when we reflect that even the finest image, if the verbal content which it illustrated was insignificant, would be automatically eliminated. During editing as being of only visual interest in contrast to the verbal poverty. On the other hand, every effort would be made during editing to retain even a poor picture, so long as it embodies a revealing moment where the sound utterance is significant and is satisfactorily captured by the sound engineer. Contrary to Virtaf's propositions, therefore, ear radio takes precedence over eye cinema, whereas the picture may at a certain moment play false. The verbal processes of a man expressing himself are closer to his thought, and at the same time closer to authenticity. An unusable picture may, to some extent, be replaced during editing by insert shots, whereas sound, the missing or unusable utterance, is lost forever. The sound engineer, and this is one of the things revealed by audio-visual shooting, is more than just a technician. As in cinema studios, he must above all be a sensitive and intelligent man, and a psychologist. From the technical angle, he will have given close attention to the choice of his two or three microphones and will have carried out his own tests so as to be completely familiar with them. He is the first to be informed by the director of every detail concerning the dimension in which the subject is to be treated. He is a live artist who will have to swing his short boom like a bullfighter's cloak, his eye continually on the cameraman so as prevent the microphone or part of his own body from intruding on the picture. During movements and actions. The Mesos Brothers, among others, have perfected a device to show the sound engineer the width of frame assumed by the picture. It consists of a small white indicator fitted on the movable ring of the zoom and visible from a distance. Depending on the position of this indicator, the sound engineering knows whether or not he is intruding on the frame. He will also continually have to cope with unexpected noises, banging doors. Echoes, motorhorns, passage of motorcycles and lorries, machines, vibrations of all kinds, in short the endless series of noises which constitute live sound and are the noise background of human life. The importance of sound recording and the necessity of ensuring that shooting should conform to it so impressed that outstanding audio-visual cameraman Pierre Lum, Chris Marcus Lojoni made petite veal with his bully, that he decided to wear light earphones. This way he no longer heard the sounds in his vicinity, but, and this is of key importance, the conversation picked up by the microphone, a fact which enabled him to liven them, to live the verbal moment simultaneously with filming it, and to anticipate the camera's movements to some extent. With the resources now available, monitoring such as LUM carried out by wire could now be done with transistri shortwave transmitter receivers. Without the use of any connecting wire, with the result of the cameraman, the sound engineer, and the director, would all hear exactly what was being recorded on the soundtrack. A script girl stationed some distance away and equipped with a small receiver could take notes on the content of the tapes, thus providing a valuable reference for the editor and director during the cutting process. These are possibilities worth considering in the future. On page 28, Rouspoli starts to describe the working method of editor Jean Ravel, who edited Connection de l'Été and Les Inconnues de la Terre. Called John Ravel's Japanese Scroll Method. Viewing of silent rushes and joint treatment by editor and director, critical observation on the pictures, comparison of ideas, recollections of the environment, concerned outlook of the participant. Transfer of all material to synchronized double-track and synchronized screenings. 3. The full verbal content has already been typed out in three copies, one for the cutting room, one for editor, and one for director, and constitute the typescripts. This way, reference can be made to written text and those responsible have an opportunity to reflect before singling out the interesting parts and eliminating anything poorly recorded. Tediously, repetitious are Calculated to Carica 2. Uh, tediously repetitious or calculated to caricature participants in one way or another, is on the basis of this written material that the construction of the film was thought out, on the assumption of course that the editor and director are sufficiently familiar with the rhythm and intrinsic value of the sequences. Removal from the audiovisual material of all passages critically eliminated from the typescripts. This states the material itself emerges in a deeper sense. Opens up editing possibilities. Following on synchronized and chronological projection of the element singled out is acceptable. Preparation of the Japanese scrolls invented by Ravel, i.e. The construction on paper of the parts retained by cutting out the relevant dialogs and sequences from the type scripts and joining them together. This way the work takes shape on the basis of its verbal content. Pictures sound pre-editing, properly speaking, based on the Japanese scrolls. Preparation of commentaries, use of original sounds recorded on the spot. Final arrangement and mixing. Throughout all these operations, the director and editor, adopting a critical and completely frank approach, must constantly reflect. And compare their respective ideas in a spirit of faithfulness and honesty as regards the audio-visual material and the individuals concerned. Jean Ravel has well said of direct cinema editing in the Cinematographic Radio No. 2, one of the most difficult decisions to be taken, the most difficult cutting to be done, occurs when the editor is confronted by a given character with revelation of his moment of truth. It is possible to be completely faithful to the shot and retain the scene in full with its slumps in interest, its breaks in rhythm, due very often to external factors, but nonetheless having its moment of true. Cuts can be made, but without betraying what is essential in the scene. But it is also possible to situate the character in his environment, to set him in the context of his everyday reality, to show why he is telling us. This is the technique of the voice-off. And I have a preference for it, not simply because it is more appealing, because that is real editing, but because it's effective. The ethical problem instead of a truth. It is obvious, and the fact constitutes a grave danger, that all sorts of lies can be manufactured from genuine elements, thereby betraying both the material and the individuals filmed. This is a key problem in connection with direct cinema, which arises from the outset with audiovisual shooting, and which becomes even more serious at the editing stage. Pictures shot against the will of the person filmed and used to his detriment, like the candid shot made without his knowledge. Not be tolerated and represent a violation of his personality, except where the good and the interest of the community is served. And even so, lengthy consideration must be given to the relativity of what we mean by public good. It is logical, for example, that TV should, if possible, broadcast stolen shots in respect to a dangerous murderer or a thief being sought by the police. Is it free to do what is done by certain newspapers and disclose the private lives of well-known figures who have been filmed without their knowledge. Authentic audiovisual shots can be used by unscrupulous individuals to illustrate any tendentious view whatsoever, but to present a faked version of public opinion for propaganda purposes all the more easily, since such live shots seem to be of unquestionable reliability. Recently, under the guise of truth, films have been produced which in fact consciously betray it, an example being Guatiaro Giacoppedi's Mondocani. Three main types of misrepresentations may be observed in this film and it is worth listing them as examples of the disadvantages which may be occasioned by live filming. One, ethnographic misrep presentation. An Indonesian woman is shown suckling a young pig and it's a fact that this practice is common in certain tribes, although never at the expense of children. The text states, as an indication of the depths of depravity to be found among certain people, see for yourself. The woman of this region, who let their children die in order to suckle pigs, is impossible to overemphasize the seriousness of this lie, and the extent of the racial prejudice which it inevitably arouses, among an ill-informed public which ingenuously feels that seeing is believing. 2. Social misrepresentation, which credits a country, which discredits a country. We're shown a Calabrian village, the birthplace of the famous actor, Rudolf Valentino. The young men of the village have been carefully made up in the manner of 1925, so as to resemble the actor of the silent era, and filmed in distorting close-ups which make them ridiculous. The text says the young men in this village try to look like the Rinald Rudolf, in the hope that fortune will smile on them and make them famous as the renowned actor. It is quite obvious that the young people of the village, born long after the actor was dead, have other interests than resembling so out-of-date a figure whose films, moreover, they have certainly never seen, is merely making a mock of the young of southern Italy. Three. Scientific misrepresentation. We're shown a small amphibian, Pacific fish, familiar to every naturalist, and which is noted for its habit of coursing over the wet sand alongside lagoons. We are told that the radioactivity of the water caused by American atom bombs is so intense that the fish of this island leave the poison sea to take refuge on so it is unnecessary to dwell on the absurdity of this assertion. If serious dangers are not to arise in respect of audiovisual dissemination and the propagation of culture, direct cinema should be entrusted to teams selected from among directors and technicians whose honesty and human integrity are beyond question. Direct cinema surveys, finally, must not be used to draw conclusions or prove a point to give the facts, to analyze and inform the public, to make it conscious of the human and social problems which need to be solved. He just shows the impossibility here of really doing so. In Belasco's The Theater Through It's Stage Door by David Belascon, Herpers and Brothers Publishers, New York and London, 1919. Page 202 in a section called the drama's flickering bogey He talks about the difference between the two medium. Both of them may have an esthetic purpose, but if dramatic art is anything at all, and if it is worthy of being perpetuated and perpetuated, the reason is that it is above everything else, far above the mere purpose of supplying pleasurable entertainment and interpretive art which portrays the soul of life. The motion picture play, on the other hand, has accomplished all of which it is capable. When it has reproduced the surface of life. It registers itself in silent images and shadows, while the great vitalizing forces of dramatic art are living personality in the sound of the human voice. If the motion pictures ever hope to challenge the regular drama seriously, they must evolve some form of art, distinctly their own, and educate their performers in an entirely new technique. They cannot always be satisfied with the cast-offs of the older theater. I have often been told that performing before the camera is a good experience for our actors, but that is a mistaken notion for the reason that the spoken dialog of a regular play sets in motion the mental processes in the imagined characters which are translated to an audience in the player's actions. For instance, the motion picture performer is told by his director to assume the appearance and pose of thinking, but just what shall he be thinking about in a spoken drama? That mental action would be the spontaneous result of the situation. The character is placed, plus the equally spontaneous effect of what the other characters on the stage are saying and doing. Before the camera, on the other hand, the player has nothing to think about except the director's instructions. The result of such a process can be only to make the pose are artificial and natural and mechanical, and this is precisely the fault I detect in the acting of even the best directed motion picture plays. I didn't mean that there is nothing in motion picture plays to stir the imagination or appeal to the emotions of spectators, but when I have examined them closely to discover the source of such effect, I have invariably found that it was in the story rather than in the acting. Applause is tonic and elixir to the actor. It is one of the psychological phenomena of the theater, as everyone who has seen a rehearsal of a play before empty seats must be aware. The actor lives on approbation. That is why the people of the theater... Throughout its whole history have been willing to make such great sacrifices for their art. There is something in the magnetic influence of an audience's presence, which thrills the actor and puts the sparkle life into his work. Without it, no matter how great may be his zeal, his performance takes on that flattened inspirationalist aspect, which I invariably notice in the motion picture plays. To help counteract these disadvantages of what I may call studio acting, motion picture players must be limited to expressing only the obvious and elementary things in life. Whatever appeal the performers make to their spectators must depend upon physical attractiveness. The heroine must be invariably beautiful, the hero must be cast in the mold of an impala. So long as the main figures of any scenario have to rely upon physical attributes to render them expressive, neglecting the soul for the sake of the shell, motion picture plays cannot by any pretext enter the field of an art which has for its fundamental purpose the interpretation of life. Many of our best actors who have attempted the pictures have proved failures. The complaint of the directors against them is that they fail to register, but that is not what the directors really mean. The secret of their failure is that they have actually succeeded in registering some of the passions of human nature, which is exactly what the directors and movie lovers, either consciously or unconsciously, do not want them to do. Here Balazs goes on the defensive. Deep emotions, when they are faithfully expressed. Tend to distort the features and intensify the facial lines. Therefore, a correct portrayal of passion does not conform to the standard of sightliness which has been set for the screens. On the other hand, some little non-entity who may not have the remotest appreciation of the emotion that is involved might in the same character prove entirely satisfactory. When all this artificiality ceases and seems and characters are played for what they are worth, the motion picture dramas will improve accordingly. As they are now, they suggest to me only a beautiful corpse, a thing without life. It must be a comparatively easy matter to accomplish motion pictures as they are done. Over on 213, Belasco talks about some of his players doing flyers in the movie, and then coming back, he says, At the same time, I can invariably detect a player who has been performing for the screens. He betrays himself in his constant tendency to strike rigid poses, in his care to emphasize or register each changing expression, and in his effort to present either a full face or a profile to the audience. He's likely also, in various unconscious ways, to be artificial and mechanical in his gestures. If an actor of such ordinary ability ever should ask my eyes, page 214, every now and then, though, comes along some person of a peculiar type, who seems to me to be gifted by nature to act for the motion pictures. Such men or women, even under the most favorable conditions, would be likely to find only limited success in the regular theater. Douglas Fairbanks, with his breezy, healthy, out-of-door personality, athletic prowess, and daredevil proclivities, is the best example of this peculiar type, something in the general sweetly sentimental personality that Mary Pickford exactly qualifies her to act for the screen. Her direct antithesis, but suited not less well for the shadow vampires, who nowadays are dear to every movie fan's heart, is that sinuous priestess of the obvious, Theda Bera. To such as these, I would say, go into the movies and remain in them. There you will find the field of greatest success and profit for yourselves and of your largest usefulness to the amusement world. In you there has been born the instinct for the screens. But let's go ahead and see. That the theater and cinema will grow apart and that cinemas develop its own art and its own people and its own group of actors. This is the art of the motion picture, Jean Benoit Lévy, New York Coward McCann, Incorporated, copyright 1946. Translated by Theodore R. J. Golden, J-A-E-C-K-E. Libby indicates that. The um... These amateur actors, they know how to live, they don't have to act but it's true that one isolated individual will freeze up among, in a studio among the surroundings but with a group that they'll have he says with a groups they are able to work but put him with the crowd, let him draw sore elbows with 150 others of his own sort, and he will contribute his own bit of reality. He and his friends together will bring an entire life of the laboratory and operating room into the studio. As a matter of fact, the danger does not lie in using these amateurs, but in fact that they set the pace to which professional actors must adjust their interpretations. In other words, there's a bit of a... It's hard to put an actor with a lot of non-actors because they show them up. Actors for dramatic films, he says, on page 161, are ideally recruited from real life, but they will need time and a great deal of work before they can acquire the qualities necessary to the development of their talent. And this, I guess, he based it on the fact that the screen actor has to project and develop qualities of an inner life. This is a chapter of natural actors. Natural actors are those who approach closest to nature. They are creatures whose minds have not been cultivated who have kept their psychological reflexes independent of any control by will or reason. The children are the ideal natural actors of this dream, but I have found the same freshness of mind, the same innocence, in the Schluß, S-C-H-L-E-U-S, tribes of the Atlas. The primitive life led by these nomad warriors had kept their intellectual development at the level of that of a normal child who has not yet felt the impact of reason and education. We are now dealing with completely virgin material that reacts spontaneously to events and circumstances in the environment favorable to it. And capable of making an impression on it. We must, therefore, arrange a sequence of events in such a way as to obtain a logical story that can make an impression on these primitive creatures, placing it in the environment to which they are accustomed. Children are potentially in doubt with all the diversity of the human character. Heredity or environment often orientate the component parts of this diversity in different directions. But a basic criterion remains, represented by the degrees of intelligence and the purity of the environment that will have sheltered that intelligence from premature adult influence. For that reason, it becomes extremely important when casting children for a film to be guided in the selection by methods of examination based on a profound knowledge of child psychology. And to make certain that their minds have not been distorted by surrounding influences. First to be avoided then is the little professional actor who has already proved himself on the stage or screen. On the contrary, real children, quite unspoiled, must be sought in the streets in school or at home, children who are leading normal lives. In his article, in his chapter, Natural Actors, he also stresses how children oblige adults to throw off mental make-up, what he calls mental make up, keeps them honest. The children set the pace for the professionals, and the latter was keeping stamp, lest they become conventional and throw the children off. Actually, the children dominate the actors. Generally speaking, the latter are forced to bow to the realities of life. My smallest children never for a moment imagined that they were associating with actors. Whenever one of them needed help, he would call Rose, never suspecting that Rose was anything more than a servant, whose job was to kneel down beside him, wipe his face, or blow his nose. A screen player's ambition should be to equal the unconscious talent of natural actors since in the last analysis he will not achieve the fullest development of his art until he is able to express the emotions that he himself experiences. His talent will then enable him to concentrate on not letting professional technique distort the unconscious reactions of his personality, which will transmit through the delicate range of his feelings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=197.47,2493.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In a book called Motion Picture Acting for Professionals and Amateurs. By Jean Bernique, a technical treatise on makeup customer, producers service company, 1916. Page 21, called Expression. He says it's well to bear in mind that the movie artist must depend upon the gleaming eye, the distended nostril, the furrowed brow, or the compressed lips to emphasize his emotion. The extravagant gesture in Panama was a stage. The varied inflections and modulations of the voice are proven failures for screen work. Stage mannerisms must be left behind when entering the studio. Unlike the stage performers who can work themselves up to a genuine emotion as the play unfolds, the movie artist is compelled to register emotions to order. It is generally known that the picture story is not produced in natural sequence. The movie player may be called from a pleasant conversation in order to register a towering rage instantly. A few minutes before, the same player was registering ardent admiration, and in the next few minutes, heartfelt grief. And all this may have been without the slightest knowledge of what it was all about. When it is understood that few directors allow players to know anything of the story other than the scene in hand, which may cover a period of 20 to 50 seconds, a term made to order expressions can be more fully appreciated. A professional stage performer and a novice aspiring to studio work should bear in mind that the ladder to success on the screen is through hard work and diligent study of expression and camera effects. Working in the movies is dandy good fun and very interesting to those who put heart and soul into the work The reward is that most gratifying is that the most gratified achievement Dash success The picture player must register the expressions of simulated emotions as effectively as did the stage star unwittingly display her discomfort. This was before he'd mentioned about the stage-star being very discomforted in the toss-ups. And they must be capable of doing this to order up on the command of the director the following example of a script from which the director produces. The scene is taken from an original scenario, which was produced by a program-releasing company. Its briefness reflects this general attitude in all studio work. Scene 41, interior hall as in 39, man standing, uncle passes, man bows to uncle as he receives order. Draws close, points to a joining room knowingly. Uncle registers, surprise. Man tells him what he has overheard Mary and maid discuss. Uncle registers satisfaction at learning this. Thanks, man, and gives him orders. Both exit. Uncle back to library. Man off. Scene 67, interior cell. Marie looks about place, registers that she does not like the place, sits down and starts to cry. Jailer registers sympathy for her, places arm about her shoulder, tells her he will be back. He leaves cell and locks door, registers sympathy as he looks through bar door. Jailor exits. Marie registers despair. These scenes merely give an outline of the action. The director, or his assistant, usually gives a hurried demonstration of how he wants the scene carried out. He's pleased or incited to blankety blanks according to the manner in which the emotions are simulated. For those who wish to obtain a ready knowledge of how to express the various emotions, the section of illustrations which show 499 expressions of emotions by 191 screen-stars will prove an invaluable reference. For a better appreciation of the expressions given, it would be well to read the section devoted to the stories in synopsis form of 13 of the pictures referred to in the illustrated sections. These stories give a good idea of the action and cinema of the... A careful study of the pictured expressions of these green stars will, with diligent practice before a mirror, furnish the beginner in film land an excellent groundwork. Do not pass over these hastily. When any difficulty is experienced with a particular expression, stick to that one until it is mastered. When an emotion can be simulated, it will make up as described in the article. When an emotion can be simulated at will, makeup is described under the article that I need to make up and have at least three good, clear snapshots taken with an ordinary hand camera to show full face, three quarter in profile. These snapshots will afford a real test of the effectiveness of the expression and makeup. For photographic purposes, and what is more important, snapshots will show whether or not the subject is screen type. These simple little snapshots may save many heart burnings and the time of directors and studio employees. In a book called Screen Acting, Its Requirements and Rewards by Inez and Helen Clump Publishing Company, Incorporated 145, West 36th Street, New York 1922 On page 103, they'd mentioned that William S. Hart was one of the first to try underplying on people, and his producer's triangle said that people wouldn't stand for it. And he was right, finally, and he's developed and believed in subtle acting. And it says, when D.W. Griffith began working with the talent and experience Joseph Shildecroft, who was the hero in Orphans of the Storm, he saw that the young man, governed by his training in Panama, was doing too much and not being enough. And not being. Quote, don't do so much, just be still, he told Shildercroft. By the way, making his point clear, he had broken blossoms run off in the projection room and told Schilderkraut to study Dick Bartholomew's work in it. When it was over, Schilderkraut asked to have it run again, and he came to Mr. Griffith. I see my mistake, he said. You will remember the remarkable restraint with which Bartholomew has played that role, how few motions he would make, even in a big scene, and how very effective they were. That was because he is an accomplished actor. He was developed in the new school of screen acting, and as a master of it, he dares to be still, merely to be what he is supposed to be, and let the audience accept him in that capacity. The book very earnestly points out that, along with timing, you have to have tempo, and then they have to spacing. Spacing is something that you're supposed to learn and takes trouble and then you forget about it because it becomes natural. Spacing being placing things out so they'll be seeing all of these categories that they're looking for. A feeling for our ensemble playing. The authors suggest that we should read Expressions of Emotion in Man and Animals by Darwin. Charles Darwin. So I should lock that up, I suppose. Here's a list of questions, 15 of them here. Things like, is astonishment expressed by the eyes and mouth being open wide and by the eyebrows being raised, and so forth. You oughta check in at that anyway. Evidently Wesley Barry, whose work on the screen has attracted such wide attention, if you have any doubt of the value of such a study, watching his work on a big emotional syndrome convention of its efficacy, evidently he studied it, although I don't know what he is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=2496.87,3018.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right now, here we are in Amsterdam, a little Amsterdam and Jeroen is on the curtain. Hello folks. I have on drums. Anyway, George is going to read the Translate, finally, at long last. That article he wrote in 1962, about me, called The Portrait of a Young Cineaster or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3021.18,3045.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e James Blue, Portrait of a Young Cineast, published on Saturday, August 4th, 1962, I give you a bad translation. On the Cannes Film Festival, the feature film Les Olivier de la Justice, made by James Blue after the book by Jean Pellegrini, was given the prix de la critique. Except for Godard's Petit Soda, in which agents of both sides make some fun on Swiss territory of the Algerian war, Les Olivier de la Justisse is, as far as I know, the only film about the Algeria situation. The film was shot in the last month of 1961 and in the first of 1962. By a team consisting of Algerians and Frenchmen. Five plastic bombs changed the building of the studios Africa in not much more than rubble. The load that should have been deadly for all Ayyyyyyyy was burning quietly down in a in a side room besides the, besides the plateau. It had got, it had gotten wet. End of February, Blue took thousands of meters of film as extra, as excess luggage with him on the plane from Algiers to Paris. Shortly after that, the big terror by the OAS broke loose. Is that understandable? James Blue is 31, American and coming from Portland, Oregon. On a colored postcard I once received is marked Portland, the City of Roses. I have the impression that few things tie him to the City of Roses. He speaks about it with a vague pity, a little irritation, tenderness, wandering, as about something with which he has not much to do anymore. He describes his father as a good man. Who after a busy life lives quietly on his pension with his mother in their own home and whose only passion is the collecting of little trains, pictures of old locomotives and knowledge about the steam area. He tells this without sarcasm. Blue tail is without sarcasm. At the University of Oregon, Blue did a study of theater. He directed, among others, a rather large production of The Death of a Salesman. With some own money, he made two amateur films, The Golden Spur, a parody of the Westpont, and a parody Hamlet, which I have seen. A primitively made film. That already shows an extraordinary sense of comical timings. Blue was also the writer and disk jockey of the local radio program, Blue's Bistro. A sophisticated hard hour in the late evening. In which he caressed the ear of the ladies with his stylized radio-based ladies You know what hormones can do is a text that stayed with him through the years Cough. Okay. In 56, Blue came to Paris, where he... Where he went to follow a film study on the GI Bill, a study fellowship for ex-soldiers given by the American state. I have been with him very much in these two years and seen him back about every year in Amsterdam afterwards. Blue, on the first sight, made a kind, quiet impression. A gentleman with a certain authority. Later on, I saw him in strange, bag-like army clothes. Depressed and with an eaten up face. Also, agreeably reacting to... To endlessly, uh, to endlessly how could I put it off for a moment, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3045.45,3393.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Endlessly jamming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3397.78,3398.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Now, later on, I have seen him in strange bag-like army clothes, depressed and with eaten-up face. Also, agreeably reacting to endlessly jabbering Frenchmen about Faulkner and Hemingway. As a funny grandfather demonstrating to Charleston to girls on parties. Retelling a film, acting it out, or giving away big monologs about the subject as the limitations of the camera spiel. Also in the hygienic rooms of the American house of the Cite Universitair where American students treat each other nicely and openly and in doing so bring the European visitors to this despair. It's a bad translation but they make us desperate by being all so nice and kind and playing it cool. Okay next chapter many americans that have for more or less long time settled in europe and from a personal need have a beautiful hate against the country of the hard dollar the adaptation the commercials the popularity and the oiled careers But in being so, they stay Americans, responding to a difficult, hard to describe but immediately recognizable pattern of behaviors, reactions and intentions. Obsessed and not without inferiority feelings, they are always busy testing their European experiences against their American background. In the same way, Blu made a continuous effort in Paris to get America off his neck. And he did this with a surprising freshness and greediness. He was, uh... He was ready to find all people, things, films, paintings, talks, cathedrals and street scenes interesting and to make a closer investigation of them. He even took on the invitation of a friend, part in a religious march to Chartres, very far, very early, and in the rain. And the singing of the groups and the movement of elation and unity brought him home as a... As a half catholic but a short catholic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3400.39,3626.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Ha ha ha ha","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3627.39,3628.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Even the sable dance of Katsyaturyan was for him a possibility. He could eat it. Somebody reproached him his American bad taste and that depressed him very much because he found the reproach right and he began to be desperate if he ever would be able to grasp Europe. But it was not bad taste, it was a complete openness for everything that could bring Europe within his reach and America away from him. As a student, Blu was working and brilliant. In this field, too, everything interested him, and he, without distinction, he wrote down anything that came from the mouths of the teachers. Because a solid work is never en vogue. It made some people, but it's trifle. Doubt about him, it gives some people doubts about him. On the other hand, his piece of work for the school, a short film, like everybody had to do at the end of the training, impressed everybody. The circumstances under which this had to happen were hardly favorable. Teachers Who stagnated the enterprise with their advices. And... What? Yeah and that made it clear continuously that these films were objects of study and so not real films uh point sorry so these were the circumstances uh blue was about the only one who nevertheless managed to to make something personal uh a teeth grinding comedy of five minutes, a hotel room somewhere in a sunny place, the rich American woman telephones with her girlfriends, snobbish telephone text and from time to time denigrating details about George, the meager husband dressed in two long shorts who after some time comes into the scene and who starts with a sad face to make all kinds of silly and tasteless jokes. Stringing down the wife in the telephone wire and then tie her to the bed Exp... What is it to... To explode the pétard? What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3631.32,3849.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Perfect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3850.73,3850.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Burning firecrackers, when she is telephoning, etc. Etc. At the end of the film, he goes in the other room and shoots himself through the head with the funny expression of someone who gets even on his own terms. Who gets the right end of it. When his head falls back against the leaning of the chair, we hear the voice of the woman, George, can't you stop it now? As the knife of a guillotine, the word the end falls into the image and the music of the Terry Toon cartoons falls in, gaily. By the directing of the actors, Blue used beats, rhythmical unities, by which he could determine the tempo of their wooden pantomime within fractions of seconds. By tying in the montage the images hard and jittery in a jitter way together, he reached the effect of slapstick with uneasy undertones. In Paris, Blu produced furthermore numerous projects of films that were never realized. And that had all to do with his possessed absorption of Europe, among others a chase which grew out to monstrous proportions through the city, from which I remember a large crowd of people running through Pisoire. Which film was branched on the earlier films of René Claire? Of course the Pursued is an American, he also made an achieved film on which we work together and which occupied itself with the light and the dark and mainly the dawn, reason for us to be often in the street at 4 o'clock already in the morning. Uhhh... What is, uh, near, uh... Malgrey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=3851.02,4036.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In a piece by now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4037.42,4038.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e In spite of his so-called American bad taste, Blue knew how to keep from all his impressions the most important. Insofar as films are concerned, among others Dreyer, Rossellini, Renoir, Bresson. In his own bigger and smaller projects, It came out that he had a sharp and often biting power of observation which never functioned without a certain warmth. This power of observation came out, most of all, in his tales and stories. Mostly descriptions of situations that had hit his imagination, struck his imagination. These were not ordinary tales, but pieces of spectacle, composed out of text, making odd faces, imitations of voices and sounds, roaring laughter, pantomime gestures. I also think about a little dinner where he terrified his hostess with a description given in this manner of the handling of machines that produce ice cream, sorbet, milkshakes and whipped cream. Remember that like this on the table and everybody was lit there they said he is who's my sister oh yeah they thought you were a nut Of course, it loses some of its quickness, the writing, because it's done quick. But I can't translate it. After Paris, back to the United States, where he found work in a publicity film outfit. He made there very expensive films about coffee beans and hated every hour of the day. In a letter from that time, another project for a film. I think of a film about New York, about New York City, another one, 60 millimeter handheld shot that shows some of the alienation of people in his environment, an alienation caused by his... Shattering surroundings, of his écrasant, his écrazant surroundings. I think among others of these images, a slow traveling through a graveyard with the city far away and in the soundtrack the hissing mumble of businessmen caught in their little everyday business. People that in slow motion... Hurry silently through the streets, endlessly through revolving doors etc. This put into contrast to real life commentary in the sound. But I don't want to fix too much in advance. I want somehow, in one way or another, to get the poetry from the existing situation and to let me lead and be led by the shot images. It's very crummy. In the end of 59, Blue ran away from the coffee bean business, though the boss had promised him bigger and better things. In Ontario, he went into the service of a little company and started making films of... A good coffee. Agricultural Instruction. And also films after old Arabian fairy tales and simple slapstick comedies for the Algerian peasant population. Very funny problems and limitations presented themselves. That way close-ups of faces were unusable because this public would see them as cut-off heads. Blue thinks that the use of total shots, of long shots, which he has developed in this way because he had to, has been useful to him later on. He quotes, I only show a face close-up when I really want to show it well. I let people look at it long and with attention. The close-up, as it is used traditionally, is more dramatic fill-up. A formal element of montage, an eye-catcher. I think this is my interpretation of what you said. He describes another scene that served as a start for a film about the problem of erosion. Found by Hazard in a little bled, a little boy that plays with an old car tire in a puddle. He handles around with the tire, wipes the mud off that is on it. And puts the tire on the dry, looks at it with attention, then puts the tire again in the puddle, gather some sand and gravel and puts it and smears that again on the tire. This filmed in its full length. The director of the studios Africa found money among others from the French government. The subject matter A European, so this is very schematic, because I hadn't seen the film yet, so I had to gather it from what I read about and what you told me. A European comes back in Ulterior after a long absence to visit his dying father, after the new confrontation with the torn land, which is also the confrontation with his youth. The past he decides to stay in Algeria for always. Blue had this very very brief. Blue worked the whole year with paludry on the scenario and on the preparations of the film. The shots of the shooting... Okay folks, just the bass has fallen, not the drums. Ehh... Blu worked the whole year of 1961 with Pelegrin on the scenario and on the preparations of the film. The shooting, nevertheless, was done in a spirit of improvisation. The actors, ordinary people, met by accidents or friends or relations, improvised the text on basis of the situations created by Blu. The camera played a very subdued role, it limited itself to the registrating of landscapes, streets, rooms and people, but in a very precise way. Long monologs of the players were shot un interrompu, without interruption. Sometimes, Blue had furniture or bags of persons. The actor partially. The photography was without any fioriture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4038.26,4612.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thrills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4613.8,4613.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Frills. Blue describes two scenes which he thinks characteristic for his way of working. The beginning. A helicopter comes flying over Algiers. It is very very long in the frame while it comes nearer without getting bigger and then at the end lands. Ambulances, cars come riding in, wounded are unloaded, the ambulances hurry away with yelling sirens. The shouting of the sirens keeps on as we see pictures of people in the city on terraces Drinking cups of coffee Yeah, this is what's gonna be another one in the past your child picks grapes with his father in the fine yard, they look at a big bunch of grapes, the father says that they are big and rich. Immediately afterwards, the miserable bidonville in the past of the Arabian refugees from from the villages. In the past, in the present. I'm sorry. With Les Olivier de l'Université, James Blue hasn't wanted to make a political... This is maybe not discussable, huh? With Les Olivier de la Justice, James Blue hasn't wanted to make a political film. He sees the right of the Algerian, but also the tragedy of the Pianoires who have stayed behind to the historical developments. His effort was, his attempt was, to give the backgrounds of the drama, Now, the human aspects of it... Without forcing one single direction. After his opinion, such a programmatic way of thinking limits reality. The cinema is not only a show, it is also a big open eye. James Blue is one of those movie makers who want to possess this eye and who want to work with attention without schematic explanations. These are other ones. Who let the events happen, who doesn't think themselves more important than the reality about which they talk and the material with which they work, and who leave all freedom to the material which they use. This freedom that isn't found in arty stylization arti-stylizations, catchingly put out cameras, virtuos montage of the image, and other, what This ballast, you have this word?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4614.48,4845.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Other mechanics, probably.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4846.61,4849.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The other useless heavy load of the servants of the art, the art métier du film, this freedom is maybe the most important part of a modern cinema which has demonstrated these last years its power and its possibilities. And the biggest magic of that cinema is to be able to make a movement, a happening, a gesture, precisely from the beginning to the end. Our mutual friend Petro Laci, who has his share in Algeria as a soldier, I can't agree on it that Blue, as an American, has stuck his nose in the Algerian affair. Maybe he is right. But it seems to me that Blue funny enough in this chaos and in this land which fascinates has lost his identity of American. He is now, by the way, already busy at 8,000 feet height to film in Colombia. Okay folks, that's all. That's good. That's all!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4849.059,4939.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Me? Yeah, just that one there. Just say something, maybe say...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4947.52,4951.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, little Jim, how happy am I to have you sitting in this lousy, screwed up chair of ours. I'm now talking on the, on the Sennheiser microphone and everybody knows that the SENNHEISER is a far- a much better microphone than an Uhair microphone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4951.91,4978.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Doesn't sound good for you. Go ahead, now test that one again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4981.67,4987.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, you could start I ought to tell you, young man, that it is an altogether well-known fact that the Sennheiser is a much better microphone. We are testing. Deep in the heart of Texas. Yeah. You know, it becomes so disappointing when one doesn't utter one interesting word, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=4990.76,5021.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's why I'm going to... We're going to forget about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5022.67,5026.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, folks, forget about the camera! Forget about those 16 cameras and the crew. Please, uh, please, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5027.28,5038.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e See, now, she used the win in the wrong way. What? She said it'll be so disappointing when Joanne doesn't utter her own words. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Now, that's using the win the wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5040.65,5052.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you for saying that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5053.68,5054.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you a stupid piece of shit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5055.37,5056.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm so happy I made the mistake. I'm so heavy, you as well. I'm so happy that you're not the only stupid... How sexy you are! Over here. What do you have in your shirt? Oh, goddammit! What are you doing? Please wipe that off. Come put it in the video. Hey, what is this? Sorry, what's this? Bird shit, mutton shit, and just plain crap, and salad, and a bottle of... Pumadama. That's better. It's Pumatama. Is the tape running? Yeah, yeah, man, I do!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5056.43,5099.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You're not fish but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5103.88,5104.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My mother will never let you in her home. Maybe we should have gotten two bottles of wine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5104.39,5109.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Hello, Mrs. Blue. Are you Ozzy Coo- Your Yeah, we're gonna start by that. No, the recorder is running. Yeah, yeah, okay, you, you've got to get the question through. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. This gives a kind of candid atmosphere to it. Every two minutes someone says, you're still there. When you're a great man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5109.97,5144.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When you're a great man, and I put this in the museum, modernized. It was real. He had a sense of life. Fork a monster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5142.9,5154.809"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, but I shall assume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5155.75,5156.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the date today anyway? 20Th? 21St? We should have gotten more wine, you know that? Are we going to go front or is it closed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5157.24,5165.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I hope it came out. No, no, no it made me. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, no. That's plenty for you. That's enough for that fucking old blue. This is fucking old blue. This is old, old clean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5169.18,5179.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Our flesh, women, it's all flesh. It's all fleas. Flesh is meat. 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Is that what that's from? What? The most man? The most? There's a film put out by the Canadian film board called The Most on Jeffner, the uh... Oh, on Playboy. Playboy, yeah. Playboy philosophy. He says, you know, I'm a genius. Either way he is. 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You have no... You are catching it, aren't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5226.94,5238.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm conscientious, folks. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5321.77,5329.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah! All kind of crying. All cocks crowed. Isn't that funny? Because when you said cocks, I didn't even think of it. Hello museum of modern art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5331.4,5340.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How are you? 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What's the line?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5352.86,5362.309"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I wouldn't mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5363.0,5363.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What is in the frame?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5363.93,5364.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I have never seen you this close. Hiya! Bye!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5366.78,5373.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It tastes like greens we have in the South, in America. Mustard? No, that isn't mustard. It tastes more like pork greens. Pork greens, what do you call them? Or beet greens. Yeah, it tastes a little bit like beet, you know, a bit rotten. The meat is like nice and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5376.15,5394.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, you like it? Yeah, very good. Good, good, good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5395.74,5398.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I like the sound of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5399.71,5400.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's okay, huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5401.48,5402.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What are you calling me? It's uh, uh, beef, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5403.85,5409.309"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But then, is it a stew or what are you calling it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5413.24,5415.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. And things flew away after that. It has been under 5 or 6 hours. No, yeah. Oh, but that's nice, it gives it, uh, in 1 second it, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5415.04,5426.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5426.69,5427.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And the green is just perfect. 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Yo! It's hard to get him off the subject, man. Yeah. You see, because it's his innate, with his innate impulses as a... Stop it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5451.17,5463.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Stop it, stop it Joe, stop, Joe, please stop it, please, stop She has no trouble... No! It doesn't bother her. At all. I don't know why, I like it, it's my own microphone. It's just a fucking tape recorder, I don't think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5463.2,5491.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm kidding. I really am going to go to the Museum of Modern Eye now. Or at UCLA, where all my tips are going to the film school or to the Modern Eye. 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But when he's on the boat, he'll wipe it out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5505.75,5519.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He wiped his ass with it. Why should it? You know, today we don't think there's things you don't, you know, there's no such thing as something you don' show to people or place people. Everything, everything is part of evidence. You know I do a thing now, now I have an idea about evidence. Rich is evidence. I have a file, I have file and I collect all the kooky things in the world, you don't know what I see in the newspapers. Things about civil rights or things about... 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Evidence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5599.13,5610.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't try to make something out of it. I know. It's all in effect in my films, I mean. Advertising. I don't think so. That might be live. It would fascinate me to go to the stage. And two, three. Things. New York by Willie Clark. And now, four things. The books of Henry Miller and God knows that I have lost this kind of juvenile admiration. He can Yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5613.05,5649.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Who didn't you meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5652.32,5652.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5653.23,5653.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll, uh, see ya. I met, I did not meet, I didn't meet, no, but I didn' meet either, um, a guy I was meeting on the dead. Well, Norman Mailer. Norman Mailor. I didn't meet him. He's been an interesting guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5654.559,5674.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, I don' Apparently from what you may know... I say Norman Mailer, yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5676.08,5681.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e How much time do you have?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5683.42,5684.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He's an old shithead now well he didn't give me much time at all because there was this girl he's eighty years old girl we were at a party i met him and he said how do you do sir and then he turned around to this girl and said how to do to her she sat down, he was sitting on his couch and there was a cup and cold running girls girls kept going to these cups I'm sitting next to these young girls.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5684.23,5711.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All to a half a minute, real quick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5712.08,5713.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, the real thing is, college, you can remember that white hair, glasses, he's like a very proper old man, you know, and he's sitting there just being a lecture with you guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5712.73,5721.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And all the chicks softened themselves to it's own. Oh yeah, because they're ready to flux, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5723.59,5726.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, Mr. Thor, I break your bones. Okay, lower your bent. Would you like another cocktail?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5729.98,5736.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But I didn't mean anybody, you know. I didn' mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5740.559,5743.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But uh... Just like that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5744.11,5745.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I said three or four words and he said three of four words, and then we went ahead looking at this girl who was sitting next to him. Then I went over and talked to Harold Lloyd at the same party. What the hell was that party? A guy at his party. Where was that? One of my gay parties invited me. Where was it? In Hollywood. But from what I read from different sides, it seems like he's an old chit-chat. We don't meet people that way, in parties. Well, anyway, no. Really, unless they've suddenly attracted you for some reason or other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5746.02,5783.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you should never go to parties unless there's nobody important or you must have the same desire to get drunk and misbehave and that's all. I'm not going there to talk sense but just to... American cocktail parties are always...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5784.389,5804.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a hell of a time. No, you talk. No, no, you call it. Nah, I hate- You have to talk all sorts of shit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5804.74,5809.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm unable to do this. That's why I... That's why I hate admissi- My wife tells me to stop it, so I stop it for now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5811.059,5821.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5823.54,5824.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I make him sad, but maybe later on I will say something very, very interesting, who knows?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5826.02,5832.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the hoes are gay? Hoes are good! Hoes ARE GOOD! Say the magic word...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5835.18,5842.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Bing, bing, bong, bING!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5847.5,5848.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hey!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5849.61,5849.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Nip, nip, NIP, Nip!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5850.45,5851.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e With a magic word, you have just won a free trip to the Ozark Mountains, where you will wait, you will win. One earthen jug of corn whiskey. I don't mind if I feel it's boring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5853.44,5878.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I do mine! I mine totally!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5880.03,5883.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Shall we do now a laughing session on your tape? No! I think this is an aspect of the non-actors which is missing in your work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5885.43,5891.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Very false. See now he's using, now he is using real stimulation to play it. Bad roll! He's using what they call a memory recall, you know, from other situations. Jean-Rouge says that the microphone, rather than inhibiting people, actually forces them to reveal themselves. This is a provocation. It is, but it makes you act differently, but you reveal yourself and act differently. And, uh, this guy, Philip Donaldin, was saying the same thing that I've sung to in English. He was about one of the nice, one of few nice guys I've ever met. Philip Donald. Donaldin. Donaldin was the one I had on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5895.22,5945.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I was fascinated by what you talked about Peter Watkins, we'll offer you the cake. I'll play the tape after a bit. James, explain to her what Peter Watkins was about. Oh, well, it's a marvel. I can't explain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5946.74,5962.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He uses techniques that are common to newsreel and things. So, it's actually a real situation. Which either has happened or could happen. In order to make a plan out of it, to get it over as realistically as possible, as believably used as a newsreel technique, or the, not techniques, as much as the final effect that a news reel gives, you know. In front, since he takes a battle, he took a battle that was, I think, in the, what, 17th century, between the Scots and the English, in which the English spotted the Scouts. And the Scots were being led by Bonnie Prince Charlie, who just believed in God and his right, you know, Deo Imondewa. He was a pretender to the throne of England. The doctor was absolutely slaughtered and then the English went right into the town, well first in the battlefield they killed everyone who was wounded and then they went into the Town and killed everybody in the town as they could find. Also, from eyewitness reports, 200 years old, Peter Watkins restaged the bottle. In such a way that you swear that you're there and yet you know you're not. So it just becomes a tremendously effective way of putting this thing across you. So when somebody gets in a kisser with a blade, you know, with a cross sword, it's just plop! You know? Wow! You're just ooooh! Like that. And you're believing the whole damn thing that's there. And people are turning to the camera, you now, and saying, go away, or things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=5963.65,6081.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But it doesn't come out fondly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6081.72,6083.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It comes out real, I mean, all of this adds to the realness, this phony real, you know, you just believe it. He's being very careful because he knows he can overdo it, but then you're getting... Everybody turns to the camera to talk, you now, to say, well, the Scotsmen from the Highlands are defending their positions. They may have the fortitude, but they haven't got the direction. We will get them. Uh... You know that's what he says notices we've not in the office here with you defend the position this is since that seems to be no part of that and then are becoming discouraged this is that i cannot do anything He says, I have to wait here for the orders. And then, and the skies, and you're believing with him, and then you're seeing the English advance. And he's saying, there will be no mercy for the Scotsman. He's a pagan, he's of a foreign religion, and things like that. And so what Peter Watkins got were non-actors, people from this area. We will leave them, no mercy, for whom this battle, like the Southerner in America for the Civil War, has never been blotted away. It's probably the most infamous battle in the history of the internal strife from Great Britain. Incredible. I believe every moment. And I was sitting there saying, I can't believe it. You know? And yet, the language of the old... The language in the newsreel, because it isn't really newsreal, but of the television reel, practically, the television inquest, you see. It was that, practically. Marceau, with the interviews and the things like that. CBS report. Yeah, that's it. This language, or BBC report, this language... Acted as a form you see the form of the film but which in itself was being used as a kind of a compositional element you see to make the thing more real to make it more communicated and now his new film that he's finishing now is about the after effects of an atomic blast an atomic attack. Where she's studied intensely, the guy studied it intensely, and what would happen when you're not, and how would people act and so forth. He thought out himself. It was staged in the same way where people turn and talk to the camera. They always look into the camera, you know, everybody notices the camera's there. And, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6085.15,6273.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is it a good idea? Because it's pushed much farther than the old gag of the drug I filmed that, the connection, which was bad. I thought it was in the back. No, no, it wasn't in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6274.6,6289.639"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And they noticed the camera also, you know, but...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6289.67,6292.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6292.19,6292.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the camera was doing things that it couldn't possibly do in that situation, in the connection. But in this, in this they are, and it works. And of course, part of it has to do with the choice of subject. And, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6293.83,6306.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To make your imagination come out as realistic as possible, that means as falsified as possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6307.44,6317.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, I said basically, you know, Watkins, I talked to Watkins and he was talking about truth and reality and everything and I said, but what you've done is the most, is this phony as possible? I said you've used, I say it's immoral practically, you use newsreel means to convince us absolutely, certainly that something that hasn't happened has happened. Fantastic mirage. But it had happened, the bottle had happened of course, but the thing he's doing on the atom bomb of course hasn't happened. But it's projected, you know, but his shoes gets rid of...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6319.98,6355.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But he doesn't use, for instance, the effects in Japan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6356.04,6359.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. He's reconstructing it. 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That's good whiskey, yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6562.98,6567.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm so hungry because I don't know why but I forgot to do something after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6568.28,6573.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Ha ha ha ha!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6578.3,6578.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's your place, isn't it? 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He makes pictures?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6789.01,6799.389"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e His name is Nicolai van der Heijden. All right. Hopefully we don't see him there. He is more or less here. He has started out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6799.69,6807.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, mmm, hey that was good solid too. That was perfect, that was all I needed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6816.059,6822.559"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6823.48,6823.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, you know. It's very funny because I go to England, you know, and of course in America we have a great impression about the English documentary of the old days. We never know exactly what killed it. And I never could find out really what killed it except some people said there was no need for that kind of documentary anymore and other people thought it was television. And other people felt it just playing. People gave up the ghost. Well, the closest I came to an explanation was one guy who said that... That suggested that, finally, during the war, when there was almost the apotheosis of good documentary, you know, unprojecting and so forth, it was all very closely linked to the government goals. Documentary became very closely link to the government goal. And uh... And very well because it was anti in germany or building up the morale of the whole of the land and so it became a very and the documentarists believed very much in what they were doing and although at the beginning it had uh... In the thirties it had been very much not anti-government but separate from the government you know and then after the war the government found out that it What a power documentary wasn't so maintaining very close control over it and wanted it constantly to do what the government wanted And that this killed documentary put more than anything else","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6834.56,6926.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry, I'm going to continue. Can't help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422#t=6934.6,6937.1"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141816/file/262422/transcript/79362/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/362/original/trint_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p3_transcript.vtt?1746656660","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/362/original/trint_Coll458_jb0067_Watkins_02_p3_transcript.vtt?1746656660"}]}]}]}