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Yeah. Because. Okay. And. You know, you've seen what gets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=4.53,11.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=11.82,11.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That like you just make some comments to some people about that. He has a certain line. Yeah. Right. That he, he sees crocodile eye and tears.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=12.27,22.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And you don't think in two years pretty well I'm going to see a bit of Jason.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=22.86,26.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You personally, you know, and your relationship with him can tell, you know, can tell us about that Jason. We don't I've never seen. But I mean, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=26.88,35.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Must judge the film. You must not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=35.43,36.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But I mean, that's what the film, you see has a when we know Jason as Jason. And I don't think we know Jason to call when calling. And I think that's a no no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=37.32,46.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, apologize. Yeah. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=46.89,48.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. But then what? It has a law of its own so that you really can't say, well, that he shouldn't be doing that, shouldn't be doing that is some sort of, you know, existence. But he's so and this is what I really don't know. See, once you once you get into this, or you say that this is really truth on this, this is a real, real film. You know what your only reaction to it is really to listen to it. You know, just to receive it. You know, there is no judgments of behavior here. Do not judge. They get very.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=48.51,78.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Bad for the audience. Yeah. I hated the part of the audience when and they last night when they began to analyze Jason's motives as a psychoanalyst. Mike is just great right out of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=78.76,91.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. It just destroys the whole thing. 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But yeah, I mean, there's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=96.16,102.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=102.91,102.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Worse than amateur psychoanalysis, but even if there were good psychoanalytic analysts doing it, it wouldn't have been appropriate, because here, you see, Jason was giving himself to us. And and it's when you, you get receive the gift of his self. He shows it. You begin to measure it and count it and see. Is it a nice one? What do I think of it? It's just not what an audience should do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=103.93,132.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I think it's so simple. Why should he not do it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=133.27,136.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=136.24,136.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's for the same reason that when you're given a gift, you don't. It's not. You shouldn't. That is what you do with the gift you receive it. That is the proper response. You don't. You don't say, how much did it cost? Or what store did it come from? Or is it really what I wanted? You I mean, you it's it's a human act. And your human act is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=137.32,161.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You have a my I have you. I would think that my human act would want to say, you know, it's comparison would be right to do such a thing. I would want people to ask this question. I would want people to actually wonder why. You know, because here, here in itself is the essence of life. I mean, you're presented. You're presenting a person who is actually giving of himself, various facets of himself to you. And are you to just do it the way to say he gave it to me? That's great. You are. You know, a lot of times people can just close things the way are. We do. 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So he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=215.48,217.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Why? Why does he do that? It's an act of making himself known. It's an act of communication. And your response is, it seems to me the proper response is, well, I know you do. Is that a recognition? Acknowledgment of receiving and not as sort of criticism as criticism is the wrong thing to do. 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That that part that moves from the privacy of what he is. Where I've been saying the other seminar, what he is to himself, it isn't visible or isn't present to anyone else. Now the question is, how? How does he make that private thing public? And it's really his act of of exterior izing himself, of producing an exterior so that everyone can see it. 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But to to be honest is requires that, you know a vast amount of of understanding if you like of truth truthful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=294.02,316.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Even on the part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=317.13,317.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of our Jason Jason that is Jason's own honesty thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=317.73,321.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't believe half the stories he tells you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=321.21,323.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, well, here now I want to say this because it does. There is a Kantian understanding of the ego of self that throw some light on some of the problems because some people felt he was putting it on. You know that all throughout that in some way he was putting he was trying to be honest. He was trying to show himself, but he was putting on that self. Now he Can't said that the the human reality or the human ego has this double quality that is on the one hand, it is a self that's an object. So he talks about the self that knows itself. And he says that in that situation of self-knowledge there's a division, there's the self that knows. And then there's the self that is known of the self that is known as like the self that's shown. That's kind of the object of the thing. But the self that knows is really a self that constitutes or producers what is known that that is that that makes it in some way that you see it. Consider that human reality isn't thing like it doesn't have it isn't doesn't have a shape and a form. It doesn't. It isn't real in the same way that things are real and therefore it can't be described.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=324.27,421.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So you can't really get this out. Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=421.9,423.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. You see? No. Yes. Now the reason, the reason that isn't like a thing. The self that is known is thing like, object like. But the self that knows isn't at all. There's nothing thing like in knower, in the knower, or constitute her so that there's a part of Jason that can't be captured as you can make a picture of or do a portrait of, because that's the part that's producing the portrait, you know, that escapes the portrait that's outside of it. 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It's not only me, but many, many filmmakers that are concerned now with crossing that barrier and asking two things. One, that the audience complete the film, and secondly, that the edge of the screen is broken so that you cannot get away with a catharsis. For instance, you go to a movie about a poor little boy and, oh, the most terrible things happen to him. And you cry bitterly, and you leave the movie theater and you go home to a good dinner and you feel great. You had a good cry. No. This film, you can't go away. You may feel bad or good, whatever, but you can't go away and dismiss it. In other words, you must continue to hold these images. And you you. In fact, you won't ever forget Jason. Actually, all sorts of times in your life, from now on, things will happen that will say, oh yes, I know something about this. As differentiated from when you have literally gone through the experience, gotten the catharsis and been able to walk away. You cannot walk away. 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If and when it works will not let you do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=492.25,615.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e When you can't get off the hook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=617.28,618.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=618.48,618.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Right. So you know somewhere that people will always question themselves in relation to Jason first and Jason, even though he's not there? People often say or really wonder why Jason Jason was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=619.29,635.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The only thing that ever done. Something similar to me to this is literature. You know, there are occasions when essays and even certain novels have lived with me in an odd sense, forever, but this has not been true. Even, let's say, a painting like Guernica, which supposedly is to arouse in me various emotions that I'm not to walk away from music, theater and so forth, which I can dismiss. And here, once the filmmaker has entered the film, as it were, and put you in the film by that token. In other words, once the filmmaker has put himself in the point of receiving and therefore you as surrogate for it, also are there to receive, you're not receiving in the same way that you're receiving when you go to, let's call it just for the moment, the escapist movies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=635.94,692.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Then are you saying the truth, you know, can't have a dramatic structure?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=693.51,697.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes, it has a dramatic. I think that Jason's very dramatic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=697.92,700.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, I mean, it can have a beginning, a middle of the day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=701.76,703.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, absolutely. Can be in its own form.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=703.89,707.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And let you off the hook. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=708.11,709.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=709.6,711.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e One thing when you were talking about the falseness, you know, like, if Jason was the complete actor, I mean, there was nothing unlike us. When we saw a battle, there was one thing that was brought out is like, the people were were totally acting, but it was a very false, false acting. But you got an honesty out of it because the person was like that. 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One, a selection is made to begin with, which is I cast you because you are who you are. And then I say to you, all right, now you are who you are. Sitting around a table talking about a fact. Norman Mailer has taken this thing in a whole area, which is you sometimes. Perhaps you should bring up a couple of Norman's films on campus. He has tried something that many of us have in a way played around with and thought of for years. He happens to have a group of friends, that of an evening play at play, acting while sitting, having drinks. They go, oh, I got a kid sticking him up, you know. All right. From that, develop the idea of why don't we all make a movie? I'll be detective, you be the criminal and you'll be the judge, and you'll be, you know, right. And. All right. You know, except this, we also are ourselves. And we play at doing this. And the movie develops. Not with the script, not with anything except the notion that we are, you know, a little bit like Warhol saying to some of his people, all right, now, this is what you're going to do here you are. You're going to do it now. Hopefully, if you get really good at this and you have really the right people, a dramatic form of film will emerge that Superficially, it will resemble the Hollywood theatrical movie, but in reality it's made in a quite a different way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=742.3,834.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And also has another dimension behind it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=835.01,836.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right? Wait, wait. You cannot escape. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=837.2,839.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Relationship between character and actor playing the part. It's a character, but it's also not an actor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=840.11,847.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's like children playing when. When children play games, they do this exact same thing. Yeah. Right. Yeah, right. No dialog. Yeah. You know, you'll be the nurse and I'll be the Indian sheep. No, no, I want to be. Yeah. No. All right. Okay. You can be the Indian chief for a while, and I'll be the cowboy. And we'll trade. 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There are certain people that are. Well, we'll use first. One word called photogenic will then use another can reveal themselves on film as against other people that cannot. And this is an absolute fact. This occurs for Gary Cooper. The Carey grants the stars any star, and there's nothing new with what they are aren't great actors. Some of them are, and some of them aren't have that very special ability to reveal their personality on the screen. God knows you can take any angle of them, any condition, and they come through. 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I have to leave here a quarter for. I was planning to, if you want to, if you want to show it once and send it back, you can. Yeah. You have to send it back anyway. Yeah. All right. 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I was the real fun and games film person. I figured stand on your head and shoot or put the camera on your toes or up your nose. I was doing it and you know, color games, everything. And also enormous response as a dancer to the subjective camera, the camera that moved as I did deciding to do Jason, I made, first of all, one decision. You would see only Jason that that was really what was crucial, particularly since there was not an environment that he was in. That was his environment to begin with. There were no objects there that were his objects, but that in any anyway, in terms of the power of of his personality, you would see Jason. The next thing is that the camera would be as unobtrusive to the degree that it never did anything except the following, which is call attention subconsciously to you that a film was being made. Always. 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Since there are many games that we all do learn and enjoy very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=966.18,1096.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But the camera was at his beck and call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1097.56,1098.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, merely what he said to begin with. The receiver, the observer, the receiver, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1100.23,1105.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you also was a second purpose of the the out of focus besides using it for cutting was time uses too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1106.17,1113.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. That was just time lapse give.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1114.27,1116.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You just that you were trying to also bring him this camera consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1116.79,1120.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To know. No Absolutely unaware that that would. Well, yes. 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I'll never tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1294.17,1295.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Shut up on this right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1295.58,1296.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now or sitting down having pulled something and going, yeah, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1297.44,1303.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And for instance, the the moment where he decides to reveal to us his tears.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1304.16,1308.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's that while. Yeah, he does two things there that are not to be believed. He starts off and he has his hands over his mouth. God damn it. Two seconds later he does this. We just I don't know how many people notice it, but he literally lifts his hand so you can hear him talk. Another two seconds later. 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There are a couple things I have before we get going too far, but I don't recall it. I think there was a question that you asked that I don't think you quite totally responded to. And then I was interested to know the answer. And it may have been before I went to the phone, and I'm sorry if I said it was that. 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What I'm understanding is, what I'm understanding is that your view of the revelation of the self of Jason is, is is that Robert is a revelation that he can make without as having to see it in different situations. I mean, he may want to beat his landlord or something. Maybe that's something that I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1437.97,1461.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. Because as I understand in the film, it's not an attempt to see him sort of visibly from the outside. So it's not a camera following him around to see what he looks like doing this and that. But essentially its subject is his self exposure. 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And he said he could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1509.29,1510.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1510.67,1511.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Cool. That's what I'm saying. So if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1511.6,1513.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We. You make the judgment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1513.31,1514.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but you know what I mean. I think that if you do it the other way. 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But then why not? Then if we. If several hours. And why not three months? You say if we're going to get something different by the time I. I sense something that I don't understand. I mean, a concept of the self as a kind of something that appears and. That appears, although it doesn't appear and it is in his presence and it is and it is ascertainable beneath any kind of behavior. Well, there is the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1591.82,1621.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Sort of in, in this doctrine which most people don't, you know, which isn't so modern. It's an old fashioned view belonging to Plato and German idealism. And and it's only half of the philosophic picture. There are a lot of people who hate it. There is the notion of of there being. It's an essentialist and essentialist position is the understanding there is an essence or that there is a reality. Something we have to do there to be reached, you know, and that it's a this view of the world that I've been talking about in the last few days is that exteriors are exteriors to interiors, that is, that there is an essence inside of an outside. And if something is an outside, for it to be an outside without an inside is to be a kind of nonsense. That is a it's an exterior that has no meaning. So we understand that and such a yes, yes. 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You see Jason tricks but also his his part is is but is being straight with people you know as being straight and he you know him understanding sort of not deluded, not living in illusion, but living in some kind of bedrock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252#t=1922.31,1945.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141753/file/262252/transcript/76686/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what you have said, this is maybe crazy, but what you said as garnered from your reception of the film, from your evaluation of it and what the film has done to you, and you have then played out in your own self an experience with Jason, which which is in a sense what you've just described to us. 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