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I am interviewing Dennis Reynolds at his home in Eugene about the anti-Vietnam War movement in the late sixties, early seventies. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're going to need to take a break. I got an egg delivery going on. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=31.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hiya. Oh, come on in for a minute, Amy, come. \n\nAmy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=41.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You're busy. I'm sorry. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=46.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, that's okay. I have to give you tomatoes and peaches. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=47.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She has chickens and delivers eggs. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=52.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is Wednesday, the 23rd [of August 2023], and we are commencing this interview. Dennis, tell me a little bit about your background, where you grew up, your family. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=56.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I grew up in Salem, Oregon, and a couple of years in the country west of Salem, but was born in Salem and briefly moved away for first and second grade and then came back. My father, during those years I was gone, worked a couple of years as a high school teacher and then returned for an administrative position in Oregon Department of Veterans Affairs. My mom, when my youngest sister started school, also got a job in state government, originally clerical, but ended up working as a welfare caseworker. Back in the day, when you could rise from the ranks to become a caseworker, and they had in-house training programs. And headed off to the university in 1968 to attend the university. Academically, I did very well in school. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=74.0,132.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In high school? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=132.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In high school, and in hindsight, I should have taken that offer to be part of the Clark Honors College at the U of O [University of Oregon], but I didn't, because I was not a highly motivated student. Came down here in part, a decision between here and Portland State, of which one of my friends I was going to be roommates with. So it was an Oregon school, and, in those days, it was starting to be called the UFO. And I know I didn't want to go to Oregon straight, and so ended up here with a dear friend who was my roommate for a couple of years, Bill Bucy, who later was editor of the \"Oregon Daily Emerald\" and instrumental in some of the things I got involved in. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=133.0,185.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I just want to back up just a minute. Were you religious? Did you have a religious upbringing? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=185.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was raised in a faith community in the Nazarene Church, but my parents allowed me to leave at fourteen when I no longer could believe in the tenets of that faith. At about sixteen, a friend invited me to the youth group at his church, and so I was active for a couple of years in youth groups, both locally and regionally, in Unitarian Universalist Association. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=191.0,217.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In high school? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=217.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In high school. And then the other high school piece that I found significant was I was co-chair of Salem High School Students for Robert Kennedy in 1968. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=218.0,230.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you turned against the war in high school? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=230.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. My friend Bill and I, who was editor of the student newspaper. No, he had a page. And we put together a page for the high school newsletter on draft resistance that we had several meetings with school administration and finally came up with the version they would approve when most of what we wrote were quotations from Senator Mark Hatfield. I mean, they couldn't quite tell us we couldn't quote our senator in the school paper. So it was a very conservative school. In fact, my senior year in high school, the peace button was banned, and the ACLU asked for students to become a test case and challenge it. And my father told me, \"Yeah, you can do that if you want to find another place to live.\" So at any rate, so that was kind of the context of a kid from Salem moving to Eugene in 1968. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=235.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how would—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=296.0,297.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was a hippie kid from Salem. I was part of a jug band. I used to hang out at the local coffeehouse and had started smoking marijuana. So I was a hippie kid from Salem who moved to the hippie school in Eugene. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=297.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how would you describe your parents on a spectrum, from conservative to liberal? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=316.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My parents, you know, for one, I would describe, as I had the good fortune to be an adult child of fairly normal parents. They were both social workers. My father was basically a social worker in the Veterans Affairs. First in what they called an educational program division and later in a conservancy program. And my mother was a welfare caseworker. And so a commitment to the well-being of others were the messages at home. And my dad was always active in a bunch of stuff: legion, credit union, captain in the volunteer fire department. So he was also a model for engagement outside of home. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=322.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But would you say you became active or activist in high school? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=364.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I started to, like I said, in terms of, you know, active in the Kennedy campaign and at that level. Part of the discussion within LRY [Liberal Religious Youth], the youth group, was, who was going to work for Eugene McCarthy and who was going to work for Robert Kennedy. And I got overwhelmed by Kennedy charisma when I went to an event at Portland State and then started working on his campaign. And I still remember the heartbreak of watching the train that carried his body after his murder in California. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=370.0,404.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I believe you weren't even eligible to vote at that point. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=404.0,407.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. Yeah. No, 18-year-olds didn't vote then. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=407.0,411.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Okay. So you come to the University of Oregon and you're already against the war when you get to university. So what is your kind of first engagement with the anti-war movement? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=411.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, my engagement for, initially, was showing up at the larger marches. When there would be a march, I'd show up. I still remember one of the marches, and I can't remember which one, when it was raining, and I turned my umbrella into a peace symbol with white tape. And, you know, I remember strongly the New Mobilization march where thousands marched into City Hall singing, \"All we are saying is give peace a chance.\" And being almost tearful at that moment to be part of that, that hope-filled energy, faith we could make a difference. So I was in that pretty hopeful place, struggling with the skepticism that so many of us face post-Chicago [Democratic Convention] 1968. And beginning to lose faith in the electoral system and the work in favor of Kennedy or McCarthy really didn't seem to matter. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=429.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you were very much influenced by the events in Chicago, and the really, kind of, Hubert Humphrey is more of the same, the war policy. And so you were evaluating what is the most effective way to protest the war at that point, the fall of 68? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=501.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. You know, what was happening was clearly unacceptable. And I had the privilege of a student deferment so I could watch it from the sidelines. But I remember when [Resistance leader] David Harris came to the university, and I considered joining with people who were turning in or setting fire to their draft cards then. And I remember in a brief exchange with him at the end, I said, \"I'd like to give you my draft card.\" He says, \"Don't do that yet.\" And that was looking for some way that I could act. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=525.0,563.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that was October of 1968. And, by the way, what was your major? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=563.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My original major was speech and rhetoric. And then I changed my major to theater. At that point in time, later, I changed my major a bunch of other times. But at that point, a speech and theater. And then in the process of changing to, I mean, speech and then theater, but it was still the same department. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=571.0,591.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how, let's say the fall of '68, moving into '69, how would you characterize your views on the war? Would you say it was an immoral war, or unjust war? That this was the wrong war in the wrong place? That you feared a confrontation with China, that was this war an imperialist war? How did you, or were you a pacifist? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=591.0,620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, well, I had anti-war tendencies that were based on non-belief in organized warfare that I refined later when I filed for conscientious objector status. But I didn't come from any such tradition. My father was a veteran and a proud veteran and had fought in World War II. And I kind of had a sense of that heroic sense around war but was moving to a place that in these times post-Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that war was an unacceptable means to settle human conflict. And so I believe it was a moral position that I was moving more deeply into as a young adult. But quite admittedly, my freshman and beginnings of my sophomore year at the university, I got cast in a play, called \"The Police.\" Which was an Eastern European anti-totalitarian comedy, [by Polish playwright] Sławomir Mrożek. And I was into doing theater. And that's my act, what I was doing actively, outside just the basics of classes. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=620.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you influenced by the San Francisco Mime Troupe? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=696.0,699.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, yeah. I thought Mime Troupe was awesome when they came here and did some Brecht. And they did a production of I believe, Caucasian Chalk Circle. And I thought, Man, can I do that someday? \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=699.0,712.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=712.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Any rate. So yeah, but I was busy doing theater and partying like lots of college freshmen do, particularly my freshman year. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=714.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you saw theater as potentially an outlet for expression and particularly your anti-war—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=723.0,730.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I certainly saw where it could happen. I mean, you know, Brecht, in fact, was the preliminary example of political theater. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=730.0,738.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Okay, let's come back to that in a minute. But you didn't then turn your draft card in? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=738.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=744.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you continue to consider doing so? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=744.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I really hadn't. And in fact, when I came back my sophomore year, my parents said they had a decision they would fund one year of school for each kid. But they still had to fill out a FAFSA [Federal Student Aid]. And my sophomore year, it was looking like I wasn't going to be able to make it financially through the whole year and was going to have to drop out and go to work. And my friend Bill's dad, who was a car salesman and had friends in the loan business, co-signed a note for me to get a private student loan to finish my sophomore year because Bill's dad wanted me to there to take care of Bill. He had this foolish notion that somehow I was more responsible than his son, and I wasn't. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=750.0,805.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This guy's name was Bill Bucy, who ultimately becomes one of the editors— (both speakers speaking)\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=805.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, he became he became the editor of the \"Oregon Daily Emerald.\" And our sophomore year he was on staff of the \"Emerald.\" Which when it comes down to some of the political things that happened, Bill told me a story about how some of the files and photos from the demonstration that happened in the streets when the National Guard were called, the \"Emerald\" staff looked through the photos to see if they could recognize any of their friends and if their friends were recognized in the photo, they disposed of the photos because their photos were subpoenaed. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=810.0,845.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it seems a moral opposition? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=845.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=854.0,855.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And then you're going to become involved in SDS [Students for a Democratic Society]? When does that happen? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=855.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it was late fall term, I believe, or early winter term. I was trying to look at the timeline, but I'm not sure the exact date. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=865.0,874.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sixty-nine? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=874.0,876.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of '69 or early '70. A friend of ours from high school named Mike Yeager, who was a student at Willamette University in political science, was writing a paper about radical movements and particularly the White Patriot Party and wanted to go to the SDS meeting. And Bill was covering it for the student newspaper, for the \"Emerald.\" And I was going to meet them there at the end of the meeting. I got there before the meeting was over and some people stepped up organized saying they wanted to organize something doing the theater company, based on the notions of the San Francisco Mime Troupe, and I volunteered. I joined at subsequent meetings what came to be called as the Radical Arts Theater Troupe, the RAT Troupe. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=876.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that was a direct offshoot of SDS?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=927.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And in fact, after we'd done a few things, we had two representatives from the RAT Troupe to the Central Planning Committee of the local SDS chapter. And I became one of those two representatives. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=930.0,947.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was it that drew you to SDS?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=947.0,950.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, SDS were the people who launched this theater troupe thing that was fun. And they were doing something. They were showing up and speaking out. I've always been highly extroverted. I was the kid who you couldn't get quiet in school. Later on, Myers-Briggs [personality type] says that I'm an extrovert on every indicator of introversion versus extroversion. I think out loud. And they were speaking out and they helped me provide, find, sort of my own voice. Initially, when I got involved in SDS, people asked me to read a speech or two that others had written. I believe one was partially written by Jeff Freed, who was in leadership in SDS then. And then I started finding my own voice and would often be someone who would speak up at the rallies. Or who would take the mic at the free speech platform in the student union and speak out in opposition to the war. And particularly we were looking at the university's engagement and collaboration. As you know, the work that Weyerhaeuser was doing to support efforts, ROTC [Reserve Officers' Training Corps] most specifically, were the issues that we were speaking out against. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=950.0,1041.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this whole issue of the university's complicity with the war machine, university's complicity with destruction of the environment, did you ever read that famous essay by Noam Chomsky, \"The Responsibility of the Intellectuals\"? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1041.0,1059.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't recall that specifically, that specific essay. I remember part of it. You know, part of my spokesmen came from reading what we were printing. I became one of the people who would help Joe Schoenfeld, who often ran the mimeograph machine, which was our press in the time. Cranking out flyers we would distribute on campus, and I read them. And I got to admit, I adopted the rhetoric of the movement, and it became my rhetoric. Some of it wasn't my own analysis in depth. Some of it was adopting the rhetoric. Not unlike as a theater student I would read the script that somebody else had written in a play, particularly when the message of the play made sense to me. And so if the larger message made sense to me, I was willing to adopt a rhetoric around that message. And in understanding my own analysis of the reality of American imperialism and its impact globally, and that the Vietnam War was simply the rise of that. Reading in those times the history of Vietnam and what had happened during our support for the French and what had happened in the French left. So I did feel literate in that sense of it. But in those larger analysis of inter-relationship, I trusted the words of others. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1059.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. And, you know, SDS organized many different types of study groups. Were you ever in one of those? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1158.0,1167.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I was in a variety of different teach-ins, but I also was helping to promote them and getting people in the room. I was both a participant at some level and an observer. And I'm not remembering specifically, but I wouldn't be surprised if, some point, I read part of what somebody offered for me to read because I had a good speaking voice. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1167.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah. But I think particularly in fall '67, '68, and '69, there was a lot of emphasis on this political education by SDS and it took many different forms, but it was the idea that really student opinion and public opinion can be shifted here. It just takes agitators to organize the forums for that— \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1192.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. Absolutely. But we also recognized that the street was potentially agitating. That it wasn't just simply agitating through education, it was also agitation through action. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1225.0,1238.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1238.0,1239.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's what I got the most involved in, particularly in the theater troupe, because we would be part of the entertainment, if you will. I thought it was good theater 'til people from the Mime Troupe came and critiqued what we were doing and helped me realize it wasn't good theater. It was sketch comedy in a kind of gross political format, I can say in hindsight. But we were having fun doing it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1239.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you remember any of the sketches that you did?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1269.0,1272.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, one piece I portrayed George Weyerhaeuser, who raped a woman who was supposed to be the forest and sodomized a worker. And it was gross, you know, in hindsight. But at the time, it was great fun for a nineteen-year-old just about to turn twenty-year-old. All right! You know, it was giving the finger to established norms. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1272.0,1306.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah and, of course, Weyerhaeuser, which was a major benefactor of the university, and many graduates would go on to work for a Weyerhaeuser, that it was the emerging environmental movement—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1306.0,1321.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1321.0,1322.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—in the late sixties and again, back to this question of complicity.\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1322.0,1328.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, and issues of labor, too. I mean, you know. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1328.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Yeah, and the exploitation of labor. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1331.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, like one of the things that I was involved with and it's in the timeline is the Shake Mill [Huntington Shingle Mill]  in Springfield, where a small union was trying to organize against— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1335.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the fall of '69— (both speakers speaking)\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1345.0,1347.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—then early in the '70. And particularly '70 is when I was involved in some of the pickets there. And you know, that was what was happening from the waste product from the mills. What was happening around the cedar production, which in those days they only wanted Doug fir and cedar was only a secondary tree. That's why you can find old forests that have huge cedars where the Doug firs were harvested twice around the cedar trees. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1347.0,1382.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you actually went out, and these shingle workers were on strike and you actually, and SDS, organizes students to go and walk the picket lines?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1382.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yep. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1394.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You are actually on those — \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1394.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—number of times. I remember one time in particular when trucks were moving right through us and weren't going to stop and the police kind of stepping aside and looking the other way. It was a little scary, sometimes more than a little scary. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1396.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was your kind of rationale and reasons in terms of, you saw this this labor exploitation? What was— \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1415.0,1424.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely and part of it was that those workers called for help, and we answered a call for help. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1424.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the idea of solidarity. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1431.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They asked us. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1433.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And, of course, in May of '68 we had this explosion and a near revolution in France. And there was a great deal of collaboration between students and workers in May of '68. So you have a big memory of The Moratorium [The Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam] in October and November of 1969? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1434.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. It was incredibly moving with thousands of people heading into the city hall singing, \"All we are saying is give peace a chance.\" And to be part of the numbers like that was incredibly moving. And that was part of what led me to the desire to do something more than just show up for an occasional march, which I think is what led to my getting involved with Radical Arts Theater Troupe, because it seemed as something I could offer. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1462.0,1498.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, Right. But you definitely saw The Moratorium as the way in which at the local level, folks were hooking up with the national campaign?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1498.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm, yep. The New Mobilization Movement. I remember that. Yeah.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1510.0,1514.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you have a sense that this was having an impact, particularly on the Nixon administration? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1514.0,1523.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was certainly skeptical whether it really was. But I had this sense that I've got to do something. 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And were you trying to engage friends and roommates and so forth and kind of persuade people that they should join in as well?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1539.0,1551.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, absolutely. And I also did the dangerous work of trying to convince my family, which didn't go too well. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1551.0,1556.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What happened? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1556.0,1557.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, my father and I ended up significantly restrained. And later when I got involved in SDS—well, where do we want to go in sequence? Do you want to kind of stay with sequence or you okay I jump ahead a bit? \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1557.0,1573.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, jump ahead a bit. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1573.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. I mean, when I got real involved in SDS and my father had read the popular press about Students for a Democratic Society, I remember one conversation that became an argument with my father, and he called me a communist. And I called him a fascist. And fortunately, an uncle was there to stand between the two of us and tell me, I remember him saying, \"Denny,\" that's what my family called me, Denny. \"You get out of here now.\" And restraining my father, who I called him a fascist, and he liberated Bergen-Belsen [German concentration camp] in 1945 and I called him a fascist. But I had become that, I don't know, strident. Yeah, strident's a pretty good word in terms of how I spoke. I not only spoke up, I spoke up loudly and rather stridently of views that were becoming mine. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1574.0,1634.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And your father was on the receiving end of that? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1634.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My father was on the receiving end of that. Yeah. Yeah. And for a while we did not talk. My sister by then was a freshman at Evergreen State and a year later wrote a play about when she was at Evergreen State about, what was happening at home when my parents got the news that I had been arrested in a campus demonstration. And it did not go well, over well, at home. They were not supportive in the least. And they were angry as hell. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1636.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there was no real dialog there? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1675.0,1677.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, dialog ceased. And in fact, for a period of time, my father and I did not communicate much at all. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1677.0,1684.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1684.0,1684.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was just easier to not communicate. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1684.0,1689.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But by The Moratorium then, you knew that you wanted to be directly involved. You wanted to bring other people into the movement. You wanted to build a movement. But it wasn't clear to you what, if any, effect this was having on the war policy. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1689.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. It was, you know, like I said, I would call it sort of an individual calling for something? And not sure if it would be effective. And whether or not it was effective sometimes was beside the point. I couldn't not act. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1706.0,1721.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. You felt just who you were at that point, it was important for you to be engaged in speaking out and acting against the war in one way or another. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1721.0,1732.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. It's who I was then, and it's in some extent who I still am, because I believe the antidote to despair is action. And I despaired about what was happening. And so I acted. Acted out. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1732.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also there was kind of an emerging environmental movement. And Earth Day, of course, is going to start in '68. But then a campaign at the same time as The Moratorium, in the fall of '69, there was a whole campaign to prevent the clear cutting of forests, French Pete. And do you remember that? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1749.0,1775.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was peripherally involved in some of that organizing around that. But I remember, you know, some of the rhetoric around environmental activism within SDS said, How can we bring them on board to our movement? Was some of the rhetoric that I was hearing. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1775.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you didn't necessarily see yourself as an environmentalist—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1793.0,1796.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't see myself at that point in time as an environmental activist. But that was then. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1796.0,1803.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right. So moving into 1970, there is going to be a whole series of actions. And ROTC was very controversial on campus. This whole question of complicity. Is the university aiding and abetting the war machine? And that had been in front of the faculty in April of 1970 and the faculty narrowly votes to retain ROTC on campus. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1803.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, as I recall, at first there had been a preliminary vote to not retain it, and some of those who wanted to retain it, voted in favor of moving it off campus so that they could make a motion at a subsequent meeting to reconsider something they had voted in favor of. And then they rallied more of the pro-ROTC at a second faculty meeting where they voted to retain it. And those of us in the back with SDS and other activists were angry as hell about the faculty doing one thing and then changing and doing something else. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1840.0,1889.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there was three or four hundred students after that meeting who would go over to ROTC and do considerable physical damage. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1889.0,1900.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. I was part of that group. (both speakers speaking) We ran through the cemetery, barged through the doors of that building filled with rage and dumped over desks. I remember picking up a classroom desk and throwing it out of a window, and then heading on through the building and out the other side, just seething, all of us talking about how fucked up we thought the whole deal was, that they could say one thing and then two days later or a few days later, say something entirely different. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1900.0,1940.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so would you say your actions was just born of frustration? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1940.0,1945.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frustration and a sense that, you know, what's the point of taking all this, you know, intentional patient action when it doesn't do anything? And when, you know, when the complicity continue. Yeah. It was at the time it felt like righteous rage. I don't know in hindsight how righteous it was. (laughter) It was, you know—and I was a nineteen-year-old male. There was some testosterone pumping that I wasn't playing football. I was taking my testosterone and putting it in other places. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1945.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's going to be thirteen students are going to be arrested, charged with felony conspiracy, inciting to riot. They are going to be jailed. And there'll be a big march of five, six hundred students down to the jail. And then there's going to be a sit-in, I think it's April 22 or April 23 in Johnson Hall. The demands were going to be removal of military recruiters and the police from campus, universities should cut all ties with ROTC, and amnesty for the students who had been arrested. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=1991.0,2033.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right. I think we put amnesty on the first, on the top of the list, because those were our friends. And many of us knew that we could have been with them if we had been identified. Knowing that it was an impulsive act—I was in SDS planning groups and it was not planned to be a trashing of the building riot. There was some sense of if they vote no, then we're going to go to ROTC. But I don't know of anyone who was fully aware of how intense we would feel at that moment. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2033.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And to say the least, there wasn't military discipline within SDS—a pretty loose group.\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2072.0,2080.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To say the least, yeah.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2080.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They may have a general strategy and plan. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2082.0,2085.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When I would run the printing press, we would smoke hashish and crank out leaflets. You know, so we were a pretty mellow bunch for the most of us. So, no, there was not military discipline. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2085.0,2103.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the National Guard—oh, and you were in that Johnson Hall sit-in? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2103.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was in Johnson Hall. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2109.0,2110.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you arrested? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2110.0,2111.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was arrested. Well, I was also part of an attempt to expand the occupation. We tried to get into the [state department of higher ed offices upstairs. And when somebody came through the door, we tried to push our way in. And I remember a woman put her leg in the door and they kept trying to slam the door on her. And I pushed against the door and the office staff person kept pushing me away and kept hitting in my chest. And I remember saying to him, \"Stop, you're going to break her leg. Stop hitting me, stop hitting me.\" And then she pulled out and they shut the door. So we weren't successful. I remember later there was an editorial cartoon in \"The Oregonian\" newspaper in Portland of some hippie, wild-haired demonstrator, allegedly hitting somebody with a sign and shouting \"assault\" when somebody hit them. Well, I never hit anybody with a sign, but I was assaulted in my attempt to get through that door. But at any rate, it was an odd moment in the midst of it. But then we went back downstairs and circled up. We had gotten in from the outer lobby into the president's office proper, but we tried to expand into spaces upstairs. We'd spent the night there on cold hard marble floors. And then we moved into the office with thin carpet. Some of us would come and go and bring food in. There was sort of a changing cadre of people who were there with lots of singing, various protest songs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2111.0,2227.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember when we were arrested, that we were all in a large circle, and sat down in, and the police came in. Well, first, the university administrator, I think, was Dean Bogan, who was dean of students at the time, saying if we didn't leave, we'd be arrested. And then the police came in and said, one more time, \"If you don't leave, you will be arrested.\" And we started singing, \"We shall not we shall not be moved\" with arms linked in a circle around the room. And then one by one, we were moved. We were removed from the building. I was one of the earlier ones. I was between two police officers who dragged me down the steps of the building and then said, \"It's easier on both of us if you'll help us.\" And then I remember coming up to my knees and they reached in my wallet to check my identification, and I shouted to the crowd, \"I want you to see this. They're stealing my wallet.\" Because by then there was a large crowd gathered on both sides of the sidewalk, shouting. And then they continued to kind of stumbled and drug into the back of a waiting van. I found out later that others, the last circle, when they saw some difficult tussles between police and some of us who were trying to be nonviolent, they chose to lock out the last group and walk into waiting police vans. And then we were transported to the Eugene jail. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2227.0,2335.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how long were you in jail? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2335.0,2338.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was only in jail into the wee hours of that first night. I remember they put all the men into the exercise yard, while they processed the women. And we chanted and sang. And in circles around the exercise yard, we could hear protesters outside the jail and we would shout to them. And there was one of the protesters who was on crutches who sort of really didn't need the crutches. But we took a red bandana and attached it to his crutch and put it through the wire grating in the top of the exercise area and thought we could hear the protesters outside cheering a red flag. I remember some of it was just, you know, chanting oh-wee-yo kind of chants. And I remember we also were covering for some people who had marijuana that they stuffed down the drain in the middle of the exercise yard. So they wouldn't be possessing by the time we were processed. Then they started taking us from the exercise room, individually and in small groups, processing us and printing us and mug shots and all of that. Then we were all placed together in a large common cell. A verbal altercation, verbal exchange arose, between Tim Travis, part of our group, who was—Tim was proud to be part of the Yippie Party [Youth International Party] in Eugene, and he and a police sergeant had a verbal exchange and they were going to take him into solitary. I was going to join him, and an officer pointed at me and says, \"You're next.\" So it came to be when Tim got his phone call, or somebody, alerted the outside folks. And Tim Travis and I were the first two people who were bailed out. And we got out like something like four or five A.M. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2338.0,2463.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then would you say that this sit-in and civil disobedience was part of SDS providing leadership in terms of organized collective, nonviolent action? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2463.0,2479.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2479.0,2480.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of synced with where you were at that time?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2480.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Certainly, certainly. Absolutely. What I was there to be part of. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2484.0,2489.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then what was your reaction to the National Guard was going to be called on to campus? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2489.0,2495.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, when the guard was actually called on campus, I was in jail. But when I found out about it later, and particularly subsequently when just a few weeks later, Kent State happened and Guardsmen with loaded rifles, shot and killed demonstrators. I was fully aware that one of my former roommates the summer before on the Oregon coast, was in the National Guard. His way to address Selective Service was to join the Guard to not go to Vietnam. And Paul was on the other side. And that was pretty hard to sit with, that we were on the opposite side, and we shouldn't have been. So that was significant to me in reflection. At the time, I wasn't there, so. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2495.0,2553.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, then—oh, and even before Kent State and Cambodia, I want to talk just a little bit, students take over 13th Street, that goes right through campus.\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2553.0,2573.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, that's when we got out of jail, that was emerging, like the very next night. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2573.0,2579.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that had always been a bone of contention just in terms of health and safety for students and these big logging trucks barreling through campus. The noise was really upsetting, but then it seemed to overlap with the anti-war protest. There seemed to be conscious plans at some point to barricade that street. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2579.0,2605.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Well, in the spirit of the time, we thought we were revolutionaries who were throwing up the barricades. And \"Libertas!\" and all of that kind of energy was the energy of the night until we heard that there were loggers and mill workers in Springfield who were organizing a truck brigade, was the rumor, that were coming, planning to drive through our barricade. And I remember looking around and not seeing many police present. I was a little anxious about how that might all play out. Nothing ended up happening. And I'd heard rumors before that the police intercepted this convoy at a distance. But I never knew for sure what had happened. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2605.0,2656.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2656.0,2657.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we weren't concerned about the sense of noise or any of that at that point in time. It was just—it seemed to be a powerful statement to throw up barricades. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2657.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And was the radical theater group doing skits in the streets?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2670.0,2675.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, we had been doing stuff before then. The Radical Arts Theater troupe, I don't remember if I said this in the interview part or when we were chatting before, wasn't doing as much then. We were sort of demoralized when Rennie Davis from the [San Francisco] Mime Troupe rightfully criticized our theater as poor theater. So I was engaged as an activist spokesperson, rabble rouser, more than an actor at that point. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2675.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2704.0,2705.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2705.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, all hell breaks loose after Cambodia. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2708.0,2713.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I want to go back, though, to the April 28 piece, that was the second occupation of Johnson Hall. Because I had a significant little piece with that. I was part of the people who were bringing food into that group. And, apparently, I was identified as having been in the building. People were monitoring police scanners, and I was notified that there was a warrant for my arrest for re-entering Johnson Hall. And they said that then Dean Bogan had filed the complaint. So I went home—I'd been up on the barricades—and took a shower and then got in my car and was driving towards downtown to go to the police station to turn myself in. A cop car turned around, saw it was coming towards me, turned around, came behind me and pulled me over in the parking lot of what was then Mazzi's Restaurant and cuffed me and put me in the back of the car. Said there was a warrant for my arrest. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2713.0,2785.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember one detail. I almost forgot. When I left strike headquarters, and tell Dean Bogan, who I was supposed to have a conversation with him about this altercation that had occurred when I tried to get into the higher ed offices, and my allegation that I was going to provide assault charges, because I had asked him to identify the individual. And ask strike headquarters to call him and tell him I wouldn't make that appointment because he'd had me arrested. And so on the way to the police station, the officer got a call over his radio and said, \"Have you found Reynolds yet?\" And he says, \"Yeah, I've got him in the back of the car.\" \"Well, the charges have been dropped, cut him loose.\" So he took me back to my car in the parking lot and got me out of the police car and two friends from SDS drove by. And, \"Dennis, Dennis, what's going on? You need some help, brother?\" And I said, \"No, they're cutting me loose.\" And I remember I had half a handcuff on and gave them a fist salute with a handcuff hanging from my fist. And I thought I was so cool. (laughter) Any rate, that was, but that I still remember that incident any time I go to that—it's a different restaurant there now, but I remember that well. But then he put me in my car and I got to drive home and I went back to headquarters. And then people voluntarily left that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2785.0,2877.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, others—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2877.0,2877.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that strike ended and then, just a few days later, the shooting at Kent State happened. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2877.0,2886.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And what's your memories of, you know, all hell breaks loose. There's a student strike. Hundreds of colleges are going to, students are going to go on strike. And it would just spread across campuses like wildfire. What was your memories of that moment? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2886.0,2909.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, what I remember particularly about the night after that happened, was a march where we went to the ROTC building. There were officers with automatic weapons, looked like submachine guns on the roof. And the realization that Kent—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2909.0,2929.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think this was Lane County Sheriff's TACT [tactical] squad. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2929.0,2931.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably, having encountered them in other settings earlier on, probably. And realizing that Kent State, that the shooting of demonstrators, that could have happened here. That that potential for something that would trigger violence was so very, very real. And I remember feeling that very deeply that particular evening. As well as, you know, deeply mourning those who had died at Kent State. And then as information emerged about what happened in Jackson State, realizing that we didn't care as much in this country about black or brown people as we did white students. All of that was surfacing as well for me. In that, after, in the time that followed after that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2931.0,2988.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jackson State was a student protest at a historically black college in Jackson, Mississippi, where again a number of [anti-war] students are going to be murdered [May 15, 1970]. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=2988.0,3001.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3001.0,3001.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they did not get the attention that predominantly white [student body] Kent State had.\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3001.0,3006.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. No, there was no \"four dead in Ohio\" song on the airways for those who were shot in Jackson State. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3006.0,3015.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Jackson State. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3015.0,3016.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, which is, in terms of the account of shooting into a building was even more egregious and more intentional. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3016.0,3023.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right. Now, there are other things that would go on. There was—Senator Mark Hatfield comes and he speaks in May of 1970, and he had authored the Hatfield-McGovern—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3023.0,3047.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—Amendment to end the war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3047.0,3047.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—resolution that would have mandated withdrawal of American troops by December of 1971. Do you remember that? Were you involved? And then there would be a education professor, Art Pearl. And then a League of Women Voters [Women's International League for Peace and Freedom] activist Dorothy Leeper. Pearl would run for governor, Leeper would run for Congress [May 1970]. They were both unsuccessful, but they ran explicitly as anti-war candidates. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3047.0,3078.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Art Pearl [Education professor], I remember was the—he created a class called \"Can Man Survive\" that met in McArthur Court because thousands of students enrolled for this class. And there were little subgroups. I ended up part of the direct action subgroup. And we did a protest against oil company recruiters, and I got university credit for it. One of the few classes I got credit for that term, because I was involved with what was going on politically and not going to class much if at all. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3078.0,3112.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As was the case with most students or activist students I would say. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3112.0,3115.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. Absolutely. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3115.0,3117.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Senator Morse is also going to speak on campus. Of course, he was one of the two votes against the Gulf of Tonkin. (both speakers speaking)\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3117.0,3126.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Michael [Ernest Gruening] from Alaska. Yup. Well and I was proud to be an Oregonian because those were my senators. I mean, later when I turned twenty-one and could vote, which was the voting age this day, probably, you know, I was proud to vote for a Republican for senator in those days because it was Mark Hatfield and later, before he tarnished his own reputation, I voted for Robert Packwood, you know. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3126.0,3153.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who would defeat Wayne Morse. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3153.0,3156.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who defeated Morse. Not the first time, the first time I voted for Morse. But when Packwood ran for re-election, I voted for him. Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3156.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, ultimately, in June of '70, the Cooper-Church Amendment is passed that would cut off funding for the Cambodian invasion. Nixon and Kissinger and company are going to withdraw from Cambodia. McGovern-Hatfield Amendment does not make it. But where are you at this point of time? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3165.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. At that point in time, and in terms of, particularly after the invasion of Cambodia, some within SDS were saying, the time to bring the war home was now. The time to rise up in armed conflict was now. I remember one gathering that comes to mind right now where people proposed rewriting the Declaration of Independence. And somebody going to the closet, I think was one of the Schoenfeld brothers [grad student anti-war activists], David, taking out a gun and say, \"If you're going to do that, then you are taking up arms. Don't say you're going to do it, if you're not prepared to do it. And I don't know about you,\" David said, \"I'm not prepared to do it.\" And I knew I wasn't prepared to do it. I remember shortly thereafter, a friend from my coastal surfer crowd coming to visit and sitting with him and coming to a sense I need to get out of here. This is going in directions I don't want to be part of. So he and some other friends were planning to move to the coast that summer and rent a house together and go be surfers. And so I did. I headed to the coast. I ran away from something that had become too intense and that seemed to be moving towards violence, which was absolutely the opposite of what I had intended to engage in in the first place. I ran away and I spent that summer of '70 on the Oregon coast at Otter Rock, taking psychedelics and wandering around in sea caves, exploring a deep sense of connection to all life in a cave that's only accessible at low tide. It was a transformative time, and I knew I couldn't just go back to school and re-engage. Some of those friends, one friend in particular, a guy named Garth, was planning to go to Maui, and I went back to Salem, moved in with my parents, and raised enough money for a one-way ticket to fly to Maui. It was this sabbatical leave that I desperately needed from the intensity of what I had encountered on what people in Hawai'i called the mad land here on the mainland. And worked part time in hotels there and smoked hashish and hung out with my surfer friends for about a year. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3191.0,3354.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you doing reflecting and looking back on the anti-war movement— (both speakers speaking)\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3354.0,3357.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I was pondering, trying to figure out my own next steps from a distance. But at that point in time, I re-engaged in theater, in classes at a community college there, with a professor I worked with who was an important mentor, and was talking about the plays we might do next year. And he wanted to do Marat/Sade and wanted me to play the Marquis de Sade. We visited a sanitarium to sort of prepare for that. And in the midst of all that, I got a letter from the Selective Service saying that you are ordered to report for physical examination in Honolulu. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3357.0,3403.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you'd had a 2S— \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3403.0,3405.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Had a student deferment which— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3405.0,3407.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then you dropped out of school.\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3407.0,3408.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—because I wasn't in school it was no longer valid. And I got ordered to report for a physical. I thought I would fail the physical because when I first went to the university as a freshman, I had a diagnosis of scoliosis, curved spine, and my doctor gave me a letter for limited physical education classes. No PE, no weightlifting, no self-defense. I thought, no way I can take basic training, but instead I took Kundalini yoga and when I took the draft physical, I passed and somebody said, \"Well, it doesn't show up on X-ray. Apparently, it's corrected.\" So I passed the physical. I sat with them afterwards and said I had been part of SDS, a portion of which had advocated for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government, hoping that would give me what the, Arlo Guthrie \"Alice's Restaurant\"-out of the Group W bench. But I passed and was declared 1A. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3408.0,3471.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I belatedly filed for conscientious objector status work with a draft counselor in Honolulu, flew back one time to meet with them, put together my letters, put together my packet, and sent it off to my local draft board. A couple of months later they sent me back a denial. So summer of '71, I returned to the U.S. on a leave of absence from my job to appear for my draft board. Never went back to Hawaii because they denied my appeal. I remember, they asked me, two questions that I remember and specifically one, where they asked me if I would accept 1AO noncombatant status, and on the advice of counselors and my own reflection, I did not want to support the war effort even as a noncombatant. I couldn't believe I morally could do that in good conscience. So I declined that offer. And then at one point they asked me if I would kill Hitler. And my answer was, probably if I thought it would end the war. But I wouldn't kill his wife and children and everybody in his town. I didn't say I was a pacifist, I don't believe in war. And one of the members of the panel, no one of the members of the panel, said, \"You're not a pacifist.\" And I said, \"I didn't claim to be a pacifist. The Selective Service Act doesn't require pacifism as grounds for conscientious objector status.\" And they said, \"Don't you lecture us young man about the law.\" And they certified and kept me as 1A, I think out of spite, and weren't willing to look at it further. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3471.0,3580.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I ended up not going back to Hawaii. I ended up staying here. Sought additional draft counseling and retained a lawyer. What I was looking at was likely induction refusal. I received an order to report for induction. It would have been December '71 then, because I remember it was anniversary of Pearl Harbor Day [December 7th], where I was supposed to go to Portland to be inducted. I was preparing to do a induction refusal—and I left out one important piece that happened that summer. I moved back in with my parents for a while before I returned to the coast, and my father, who had been a pro-war, good American veteran—I found on the dining room table at home a letter from Al Ullman, his congressman [Democrat Oregon second district], thanking him for his support for the Hatfield-McGovern Amendment to end the war. Coming home and showing the letter to my father and saying, \"You were right.\" And we'd come from no communication to him saying that I was right. And when I told him I was preparing for induction refusal, he offered to help me with the legal fees. He said, paraphrasing both here, \"I disagree with what you're doing, what you're saying.\" Oh, this one's very emotional still, (voice breaking with emotion), \"But I believe it's your truth. And I will support you in it.\" That was a lot for that man to get to, from his own active anti-fascism and efforts in the war to standing up for me, even when he disagreed with me on that choice that I was making. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3580.0,3704.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you had kind of a reconciliation with your father?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3704.0,3706.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, it was major for us. (voice continues to be emotional) I mean, you know, the following fall, we started hunting together, not because I wanted to go hunting, but because that's what my father wanted to do. And I feel fortunate because he died of an asbestos-triggered cancer a couple of years later. And we were tight again before he died, because there was some time in there when we weren't able to speak to each other. Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3706.0,3739.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did that personal experience in terms of the transformation of your father—did that encourage you in terms of what was happening with mainstream America? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3739.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It deepened. It did two things. It deepened my commitment to take moral action for what I believed was right. And I believe doing so had an influence on others. It wasn't just about me. And I remember in consultation with my attorney who said they are getting so many refusals now that they can't take them all to trial. There were too many of us who were taking such a stand. And he said, \"If they take you to trial, it's because they believe they have a strong case. And if they take you to trial, they will have a strong enough case that, count on losing and count on six months in a federal work camp on the Oregon coast planting trees, would be the likely outcome.\". \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3750.0,3803.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then I got a call from him, by sometime late November—they've canceled your induction order. Oh, no. I got the induction order cancellation in the mail and called him and says, \"What's going on?\" They had to renew the civil service. I mean, the Selective Service Act that year and there was language in the act that they couldn't draft anyone for ninety days after the law went into effect. And there was something like two-hundred thousand of us who had gotten induction orders and they canceled all of our orders. The attorney said he didn't know what the next steps would be. But they were trying to figure out what their next steps would be and what the next step would be is they simply threw all of us who had received induction orders in that time period, into the back end of the lottery pool for the next year. And the next year, they did not reach my number, and I waited most of that year to find out how high their number would go. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3803.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember I started smoking cigarettes again. It was a very anxious year. I remember a girlfriend at the time who just thought I was an anxious person all the time, but it was an anxious year. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3870.0,3883.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you don't get inducted, and your number doesn't come up. Then by '73, '74, the war's— you're not directly engaged, but the war is winding down.\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3883.0,3901.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Well, subsequently to my return from Hawaii, I returned to the theater department, started doing some theater again, and then a friend from the coast's wife told me about you could get academic credit for working at the campus childcare center. So I did a practicum at the childcare center, and I fell in love with that work. And I discovered I was good at working with young kids. And my supervising teacher recommended I apply for a job as a substitute in the center. She saw talent there, and as I described it to a former theater faculty, I had a lot more talent with young children than I did as a teacher. So I ended up changing my major to education. And as I describe it, I moved from being a revolutionary to an evolutionary, believing that it would take a generation to really reconstruct a culture, and deeply engaged in work with kids and advocacy for kids. I was involved in anti-war movement demonstrations after I was back. One that I shared anecdotally with you, Marty, was, taking over the megaphone at the new ROTC building, saying, \"Throwing rocks at this building will accomplish nothing. They'll get them a better building.\" And beginning to recognize within myself the time it was going to take to deconstruct and reconstruct a culture. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=3901.0,4001.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you're—particularly as you move into childcare—you're really now re-envisioning your life in terms of the long run, if you will. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4001.0,4011.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yep. Yep. And I was starting to work in childcare, still doing stuff with the theater department, which is where I met my first wife. And then you were talking '73, '74. At that point, I was going back to school in elementary education. No, '75 is when I went back to school. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4011.0,4035.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And talk about it a little bit about what happens after you graduate and your move into the childcare world—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4035.0,4044.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well I tried, as I describe it, I tried to major in practicum at childcare, and they wouldn't give me that much credit for that. So I had to go back in education. But while I was back in education, my wife got pregnant and we had an unplanned child. So I applied for a job at the childcare center. I was hired as a preschool teacher in '77 when my son was an infant. I thought I'd do that for a while. The joke was on me, you know, I stayed there, completed—I was still a few credits short of my bachelor's. While working for the university, started part-time over the next few years a master's in early education. Worked for ten years as a teacher of toddlers and preschoolers at the university childcare programs. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4044.0,4097.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course, you know, there's multiple social movements involved inspired by the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, including the environmental movement, but also the feminist movement, labor, the disability rights movement. So would you say your movement into childcare was also influenced by feminism? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4097.0,4119.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, part of the thing was, I was a dad. I was working full-time and I was taking a couple classes on the side and I was a very engaged dad. I always have been. And if my grandchildren was a little closer, they lived far, far away, when I can be I'm a very engaged grandfather. So I didn't have a whole lot of time. I did take solace from knowing that the work I was doing was helping moms go to school and felt pretty damn good about that part of the work. Later, when I got involved in legislative activism about student childcare and childcare legislation overall, I became, I would articulate that more fully. That what we were doing, was getting moms to go to school. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4119.0,4179.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, of course, women are moving into higher education or graduate school and even academia, the professoriate—in significant numbers, certainly by the late seventies or early eighties. And so you saw your engagement with childcare as part of that movement, that feminist movement?\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4179.0,4203.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. Absolutely. And I was proud to be part of that. Because I still had a desire to do work that was going to make a difference. I mean, working with kids and then later administrating programs for kids, because that job I took for a while turned into a thirty-two-year career at the university in childcare programs and eventually retiring as the director of student services programs, and developing new facilities and getting federal funding through advocacy and grant work. But at that time, I had no idea, but I knew I needed to do something. And through the career, got more involved in political advocacy for kids and families. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4203.0,4252.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. And in terms of legislation and through the state government and pay equity and things like that. \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4252.0,4262.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, pay equity. I was involved when I was a teacher with activism for the union. In fact, I remember I bought a pink shirt to wear to a legislative hearing, and I sat in front of the legislators and said, \"I too wear a pink collar because I'm a man in a female-dominated profession and because of that I make less money than does the janitor.\" And though I have, it requires more skill to do the work I'm doing. So I was involved with the union and with legislative action around pay equity. Then later when I became the administrator, I was handed a budget where we had to figure out how to fund it, (laughter) and went to student government. They supported, provided the funding, we needed to compensate staff well for doing the work. And while I was an administrator, I served for four years. I was appointed by the then Governor Roberts to serve on the state Childcare Commission. Was an officer in both in the local chapter of National Association of Education of Young Children and the Oregon Association of Childcare Directors. So, I was an activist in that part of the world during my career. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4262.0,4337.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you were also—the childcare providers were unionized at the university? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4337.0,4343.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yup. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4343.0,4344.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you were working through that organization [Service Employees International Union] in terms of advocacy and—\n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4344.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. When I was a teacher, I was working with the union and I remember I was the area rep. They didn't have a shop steward for our area, but I was the area rep for childcare to the Union Local. And I remember when I was hired as the director, they took me aside and said there was a pending grievance. I called the union rep and just said that, \"I have a different conversation with you, I'm on the other side now. I understand there's a grievance against one of the employees who now works for me.\" I became management and that was an odd juxtaposition for a little while. But, you know, we resolved that one. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4350.0,4396.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in terms of your engagement with the parents of the children you were working with, and then your own personal relationships with women and men, would you say your behaviors were changing? \n\nDennis Reynolds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4396.0,4416.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it was—my personal life was difficult at times. In terms of my first marriage ended after about seven years and I too soon got into another relationship, which led to another unplanned pregnancy and a second child. We moved in together, hoping we could make the relationship work. It didn't. And I foolishly did the same thing about four years later and another child. I have three kids with three different moms. I remember after my third relationship ended, two were marriages and one we were never married, my therapist saying, \"Dennis, what was the common element in those three relationships?\" And I went, Damn, it was me. So I began to engage in some pretty intense therapy, worked through some of my issues around dependency and empowerment and disempowerment. And re-engaged and returned to the Unitarian Universalist Church that I hadn't been involved in since I was a teenager. I went to a Unitarian Universalist summer camp, and I met the woman I've been with for twenty-eight years. 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I got good administrative skills when I started working directly in organizations that were doing childcare, in terms of how to coordinate the needs of many people who were trying to do the same kind of work. So, in a broad sense that, and both, and subsequently I had been involved in the new Poor People's Campaign and participated in civil disobedience in the state capital when I was serving in Washington State. I was involved in a local sanctuary cities movement in Langley, Washington, where I lived. And the Methodist minister and I led the march on City Hall (laughter) in favor of sanctuary city, (both speakers speaking) for immigrants sanctuary, for immigrant rights. I was involved in actions at oil refineries in Anacortes, Washington, where I tried to engage in civil disobedience and it didn't work out. The actions happened when I was away—but part of that, that's been part and parcel of my ministry. 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I had to come in this morning because we had another increase in the smoke levels here in Eugene and I have asthma. So the climate reality is something I must do what I can to address. So I do, from policy levels to planting native plants in my garden, and plugging in my automobile, do what we can from where we are. And it's a calling. I guess I'm getting a little preachy about I want to share for the tape the mission statement of the local Eugene Unitarian Universalist Church, which is a life motto by me. \"Empowered by love we transform ourselves to serve the world.\" That's what I'm here to do. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527#t=4910.0,4979.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160672/file/292527/transcript/84540/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Dennis, it's been a really rich and informative interview. 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