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I think we're really into this, and I'm. But I do sense that tone of anger. And I mean, yes, it isn't an anger we really an anger of against the people so much as against something in man. And I guess you're saying yourself whereas in a new er how would you compare. Well the new read.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=4.53,30.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e More isn't it. Is, is is more lyric is more bucolic really. I mean it's I was overcome there by a extraordinary recounting. You can't imagine what it's like to smell milk the way you have to smell milk, you know, and grass being chewed by all these cows and by dung burning, you know, and I mean, yeah, I felt like a 19th century Romantic English poet, you know, sort of wandering in the, in the Devon fields, you know, smelling the cows and, you know, and sort of declining into this torpor that comes about through this amazingly bucolic atmosphere of contentment, of cows and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=31.27,80.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So the reason I asked the question was because I sense very strongly coming across in the picture and in the narration, as well as in the position of the images, a a great respect you had for and a celebration of what you felt was eternal and ritual. And well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=81.0,104.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the pattern thing again, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=104.43,105.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Mean, not and again in this so that we had the feeling of always I mean, every time someone did something, you viewed it with a sense of always doing it. You know, I don't know if I'm being clear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=105.87,118.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well, I think what you're talking about is the the eternity of certain kinds of things, whether they are as simple as they are in the new era.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=119.07,126.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. In your narration, when you would say they would do this and they would do this and they would do this. I had the feeling that what you were appreciating was a kind of eternal discernment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=126.99,135.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Very definitely. That seemed to all of us to be the lesson to learn from the contentment of these people. And they are largely contented, as were the dominant, largely content in the film that I'm working on now is about a group of people who I can honestly say a very. A very unlikable people. I liked the Donnie. I loved the Donnie. Although I had a tremendous quarrel with their blood lust after a certain point. I mean, I just filled up the here with blood, and I had to leave. The new er. 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I have a number of activities there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=136.47,189.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we go onto your new film, I'd like to ask one more question on the order of us on the structuring, which is radically different, but radically, while the new is radically different from the structure of the Donnie Bird that birds not only because of your attitude, but because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=190.02,207.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And a lot because of Hillary, you know, I mean, Hillary had a lot to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=208.05,210.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About, but I'm saying that the dead birds depended upon a narrative and a sense, a parable that you had created. Right? The new air shoes that completely. Yeah. Could you comment on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=211.05,221.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I can say that that in the new where there was no attempt made, had a narrative structure because there was there seemed not to be any chance to Without imposing a narrative on it and having it really not fit very well. Of in the short time that any of us were going to be able to be there, of making it come out that way, but it had to be an assemblage of of imagery built on a structure of repetitive and cyclic kinds of organized, repeated pattern behavior that added up in the final viewing or in the ultimate viewing as expressive of the quality of life for everyone there, or the quality of life as one would see it from perhaps the outside. The Donny I tried really to get into, in the sense of seeing it from within it, from the mind's eye of Donny as much as from the mind, my own mind's eye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=222.0,287.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But, you know, as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=289.09,289.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I, you know, obviously distorted the thing enormously by collapsing seven months into 83 minutes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=289.81,296.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=296.83,296.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But at the same time, I was trying with the Donnie to utilize what I knew of the feelings, the real feelings of certain individuals who were leading real lives in the midst of all these phenomenal things going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=297.85,313.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The one of the thing that occurred to me as you perhaps you had you had rejected the notion of parable or storytelling by the time you came to the new ER. Well, is that true?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=313.69,326.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Not really. I think there is a kind of moral tale in, in the new er. It's a, it's a little bit thinner than the moral tale that I told, I think in the Donnie. And I would love to get into the whole issue of the moral implications of film, because it's something that I, you know, working with all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=327.4,348.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But it does get you down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=350.14,351.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But. Well, I. First of all, I feel that anthropology is nothing if it's not moral philosophy. Secondly, I feel that film is. In moral philosophy, one of the most underutilized tools for moral instruction that by being able to see what people are really like and by being able to intensify the experiences that you find in these places, one is able to share through this communication a sympathy and an empathy for other people's lives and other people's experiences. Which is bound has to change one's own feelings and one's own regard for oneself and for other people around them. That this kind of normative process is what I call a normative process, being that kind of process which Leads, one from one set of moral precepts to another are moral stances or perceptions of the world to another is done through this kind of instruction, which comes through inside and inside, it seems to me, comes more readily through the eye and through the imagery that's available to the eye in film than in any other medium.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=351.31,433.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It seems that on this question of insight, and you're the kind of attempt that you're making that words, let's say, to communicate your insight into that culture leads you in some instances to inform us. And I know that your, your, your you know, the, you know, the, the general discussion on your film better than, than anyone, but it leads you to inform us very often what characters are thinking or says in a way that isn't supported by the material. Now, I'm beginning to understand your position on that Because of of your notion of insight and because your intention was to create a pearl.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=434.14,473.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it has to be a it has to be. I mean, one must be given certain poetic freedom and poetic license. And I would claim that privilege, along with, you know, people who are writing real verse and real meter. That film is a kind of visual poetry or should be in its, you know, in its ultimate best. And that it's a it's a real quibble, it seems to me to say that the evidence of a insight is not. Somehow discerned in the things that are shown or said or written down or some. I mean, this is the kind of thing that I'm confronted with from apologists all the time. I was how do you know that that he he was the I know because I talked to the man. I know because I conversant I know because I sleep beside him at night. I know because we go to war together, I know. Well, how does anybody know anything about anybody? You know, except by living with them? Except by. By sharing life with them. Except by having an experience which is meaningful to them both and which by the subtlest conceivable gestures indicate what is on their mind, may be too subtle for most people who are watching. I mean, there there is no doubt in my mind that what I am saying not only may not have been the actual thoughts that were in the minds of the actual people at that actual moment in time and space, but that they were conceivable by them under those circumstances, if they were pressed to explain what their feelings were. I have absolutely no doubt that this is how they would react and know and know that this is what they would say. So. So that it has to be supported by the general validity of the whole context of the arrangement of parts, which is the film so and cannot be, you know, footnoted. If it were, it would not be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=474.31,589.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At any rate, you're not looking upon the images as specific anthropological evidence. So much as a way of helping you communicate a total view that you've learned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=590.12,601.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, let me get back to that other point that I was making, I guess, before the tape was being changed, which is that I'm really not interested in Donny. If pressed, I'm really not interested in New ERA Tom or anybody else. I'm only interested in myself. No, I don't want that. And then I'm sure it does sound terribly egocentric. I don't want it to sound like I said, what I wanted to, by sort of exaggeration, to indicate is that I think that it would be preposterous for me to be telling anyone about the Donny, just as it was preposterous for me to be telling the students that I had at the College of Puget Sound about Byzantine mosaics is all I can do in doing whatever I am doing with either of these situations is to try to inform myself about myself and anybody who is like minded with me, that these things occur to me as being terribly important to think about, terribly important to see, terribly important to reflect upon, and terribly important perhaps to act upon. But that will be self-generated. That will only be if there is some parable, and if there is some metaphor which does, you know, set in motion some kind of change, some kind of moral awakening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=601.52,675.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So you really need you really look for that metaphor which has carries the, the freight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=676.16,681.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, now, this leads really vaguely into the very small fragment of a very long film, I think quite long film that I'm working on now, which is the prolog not finished, just really I put together in in an afternoon for this. For my own purposes as much as for, you know, trying to impart a little bit of what I'm working on to to all of you. And this the sound also was added very, very hastily. So it's some of it's out of sync and so forth. But it is a situation which I get into in which the these really quite hateful people were exhibiting a a and acting out a theme, which I think is, is, is terribly important and that is the relations between men and women. And here we are divided in this world by sex, if not by, you know, anything else. And we have to get along. And there is tremendous conflict, there is tremendous agony, there is tremendous warmth, there is tremendous friction. There is, you know, just all of the huge problems that having been divided this way for all of the evolutionary and social and other reasons that we were. And I saw in this culture, it seemed to me a metaphor, or rather a parable for art for me, first of all, and perhaps for you, and maybe for some of you, others of what I thought to be both a disastrous solution to this problem and a very evocative one, one in which indeed the the outcome meant that the culture did stay together and that men and women did stay together. But the cost, the human cost involved seemed to me to be exaggerated and terrible, and that perhaps by showing this, I could demonstrate or allow somebody to intuit some of the problems that they were faced with themselves. And it was only literally it was only 4 or 5 days ago that I found in my musing about this film, which I've been doing now. I made a rough cut last summer, and I'm doing the fine cut now. The fine cut is turning out to be very different than the rough cut. Quite different. I found only a few days ago, maybe a week ago, the sort of underlying metaphor for the film. And this goes back again to something that I'd hoped to get into more, which is sort of mode of work, and that is being very alone, working with, you know, all the problematical aspects of film, which are so many and all of the creative problems in filmmaking, which are enough by themselves. And having it seems to me, in my case at least, to find that underlying metaphor which which gives life and gives validity to the whole sequence of imageries that you put together. Now the bird was the underlying, The race between the snake and the bird was the underlying metaphor for dead birds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=681.68,883.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The race between the snake and the bird.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=884.15,885.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Which is the first thing. And right now in this film, the metaphor is the grinding which women do on a grindstone and the, the and it is a woman who is you. The first thing that you see is a woman who I interviewed on film, and she's talking and I'll try to I think I have the papers here somewhere where she's saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=885.69,907.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can we rig that up? Yeah. Of just one question. And it's interesting that the two metaphors don't seem to have the same structural characteristic. The one is a race. There is a conflict. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=927.05,927.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The upper stone is the male.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=928.55,929.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=930.35,930.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Beating on the woman who is the lower stone, and ultimately through grinding and grinding and grinding. They fit together as. Let's see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=931.04,941.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So okay. But I ask that question. All right. Let's start with this and say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=942.41,946.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Christ, I was not anywhere near the where I was exactly. That's right. Why are you talking about this? Yeah. Look at that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=950.42,978.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That something's something is that is not fit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=979.67,982.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=985.01,992.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e She says I. Think it's his. When? When he beats you. That is the husband. You run green tobacco and run green water. When you run, he gets up and sits and he does not drink the water, but just sits while he sits. You come back. Earlier on you ran off into the house and again you brought something else and sat down. Immediately you sit holding the tobacco and holding the water. He keeps sitting on a stool for a long time as he sits. You sit too, for a long time, but at last he takes the water and drinks it. Next he hands you the bowl and you take it. Then he takes tobacco out of your hand at you. Then you return into the house and put away the remaining tobacco. After this you put on coffee and he drinks, and the coffee is finished, and you cook food and serve him. That's how it is. That's your newness. You were afraid of him. Will he beat me or no. You wonder. When does he. When he does not beat you? When will he beat me? It is as though he's beating you. Even when he's not. You are were afraid of him. Afraid. Then you go and collect animals together. You get animals together. Together. So you get used to him. You become one of his people. 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Is that a Jeep jam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1078.65,1083.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e On the front of a jeep?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1084.11,1084.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you think is just very close to the riverbed? Yeah. Now, this is just really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1085.38,1113.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e In here for a kind of setting, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1114.26,1116.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Also for probably title section, the name of the film, various other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1116.69,1122.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Facts which may come on as kind of little billboards.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1123.44,1125.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Or something explaining why I went, what the. Important people were. So these ones are always necessary to put them on? No. This thing doesn't talk. That's about it. Just killed another. And then another time. Yeah. You're kidding. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. No. It's okay. Okay. Okay. This lends itself. To a lot of color. I learned how you can give that up and let me go. Oh, good. Thank you so much. Oh, yeah, I got it. 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You see, inside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1475.47,1480.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1481.32,1481.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Animal, they're just a little.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1481.86,1483.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh my gosh, Natalya. Well, I'm sorry I couldn't get a better. Rendering from the strange machine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280#t=1484.08,1502.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141765/file/262280/transcript/76684/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sure I have some. 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