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Susan was a good student and loved dancing at an early age. She was bussed to school as a part of racial integration. She studied Spanish at DePauw University. She lived abroad in Spain, which opened her eyes to a different culture. She discusses the Cuban Missile Crisis. She taught in St. Louis for a while after college, and married a man. After divorce from her husband, she lived in a commune in Indiana. She traveled around in California, and visited Eugene in 1971 and decided to stay. Susan discusses the Growers Market, a not-for-profit food-buying club for buying organic and natural foods. She was involved in protesting the Vietnam War. She discusses the beginnings of the WOW Hall. She became interested in martial arts, which became her community. She discusses a commune near 12th Avenue and Monroe, called \"Café de Poets,\" with Tom Cooke and Laurie Shaw. Susan became a Head Start teacher in Creswell, which she found to be a very conservative place. In the mid-1980s, Susan lived with her partner in Marcola, where they were out to the community. At the University of Oregon, she took classes in photography, which captured her interest. Susan discusses her artwork. She discusses her work to combat the anti-gay ballot measures and the Oregon Citizens Alliance. During the campaigns, she went door-to-door, and had people yell at her. She had nightmares during the campaigns and was afraid at the Riviera Room, that someone would come in and shoot the customers. She started Lez Dance so lesbians could dance together. There were no \"male\" and \"female\" dancers; there was \"lead and follow.\" Susan concludes her interview by discussing the lesbian community in Eugene. \n\nKey terms: Abortion; Amazon Kung Fu; Bars (Drinking establishments)  --  Oregon -- Eugene; Buckley, Florence; Cancer; Community Center for the Performing Arts; Consciousness-raising; Gertrude's Café (restaurant); Maedl, Kathy; Perry's; Photography; Racism; Veterans Memorial Building (Vet's Club)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Susan Detroy (Interviewee)","Judith L. Raiskin (Interviewer)","Linda Long (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://scua.uoregon.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/606995"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Moving Image"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project Collection consists of interviews of 83 people for the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project, conducted by Professor Judith Raiskin and Curator Linda Long at the University of Oregon starting in the summer of 2018."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/029/original/uo-logo-hires.png?1580744881","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/289/small/Coll520_do012.jpg?1637070569","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Coll520_do012.mp4"]},"duration":5277.824,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/289/small/Coll520_do012.jpg?1637070569","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/130/289/original/Coll520_do012.mp4?1637070569","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":5277.824,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["763_Coll520_do012_aligned [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: This interview is part of the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=0.06,8.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The recordings will be made available through the University of Oregon Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives. This is an oral history interview with Susan Detroy, on September 12, 2018, taking place in the University of Oregon Libraries’ recording studio in the Center for Media and Educational Technologies. The interviewers are Linda Long, Curator of Manuscripts in the UO Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives and Professor Judith Raiskin of the UO Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies. Susan, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project, and that you give your permission for the university to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=8.45,49.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I agree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=50.17,50.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you. So, the first question is can you please tell us when and where you were born and where you grew up and something about your early background?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=51.12,61.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I was born in Evansville, Indiana and I grew up there, lived there until I went to college, although I attended summer school in Mexico in high school. And I might have you repeat the question because I'm nervous in the beginning. My childhood was fairly suburban. My father was a dentist, my mother was a homemaker. I was the first of three children, all girls. We lived in Evansville until I went off to college. We lived in maybe four or five different houses. My father being a dentist, he went to school in, what's it called? GI Bill. And so he had that trade and we as a family kind of followed his rise in financial wellness, so to speak. And I went to two grade schools, two high schools and was a good student.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=61.98,140.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I studied and did what was hoped for me as a child. Let's see. Is there anything else? I had an early love of dancing. That was like my thing. My mom sent me to a lot of different lessons. I've done every kind of dancing you can imagine. Maybe not Balinese, but as a child I did a lot of dancing, acrobatics, toe tap, ice skating, tumbling, all of that. And I kept that throughout my life as a love. I was a polio pioneer. I just thought of that, which I talk about some times because I really thought that was cool to be a polio pioneer, which was you may know or not the first children to have received the shot, a polio vaccine, the Salk vaccine. And that was momentous to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=140.27,202.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How old were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=202.57,203.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Grade school. Maybe third or fourth. I don't know exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=204.37,211.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What year were you born did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=211.36,212.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Forty-six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=212.1,213.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=213.05,213.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: May twenty-seventh, forty-six. I was trying to think of things that happened in grade school, first. I played Carmen Miranda. I was Carmen Miranda. I loved costumes as a kid and I did Carmen Miranda on the stage. So, I'm just clicking through memories of childhood. I remember when there was rotary dials and we had an assembly and they had a giant phone and we went from like four numbers to six or something, and they were teaching us how to use the dial phone. That was like a big memory. I remember rearning reading in kindergarten, I loved learning and reading with those giant Dick and Jane books. I remember that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=213.98,263.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then let's see. High school. I went to school during desegregation. I first went to— some of this makes me cry. I went to Central High School. I lived in the suburbs and we were bused downtown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=264.07,282.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Excuse me, is this in Evanston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=283.41,284.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Evansville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=284.33,284.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Evansville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=284.64,285.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Which is near Kentucky in the toe of Indiana. Often confused with Evanston. I was blissfully kind of a naive child. I really didn't understand or have awareness of politics or I just liked partying and being with my friends, I liked dancing and I just liked school. I was just kind of in my world, suburban home life. And when looking back, now I understand what happened, is that during the segregation I went during forced segregation, the city built another high school. So the people in the suburbs didn't have to send their kids to downtown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=285.97,342.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was like a way around desegregation. And so, but what was good for me, like I'm just, I wasn't even aware that desegregation was happening. I was like, “Oh, a new school.” And so what happened is I was in a very tiny class of fifty people that went through that school. Because you're the first class. That was my junior and senior years in high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=342.72,366.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: These are all white students then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=367.99,369.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know that there were any African American or what at the time we called black students then at Harrison High School. In Central, they were all left there. And when I was at Central, I was just blissfully unaware. I didn't have any consciousness that something was different. I just didn't. But that was more imposed upon me by my family who were German American immigrants and they were pretty racist people. But anyway, so I'm in high school, my favorite classes— I just was talking with my niece about this. What's your favorite classes? And mine were languages. I loved language and grammar and that's where I learned— I started taking Spanish in high school and I had this fantastic teacher, Dallas Calmus who was from Bogota, Columbia and lived some in Venezuela.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=369.59,441.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she taught sentence structure and a class called, Word Power, and that created a love of language and speaking and just reading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=441.28,457.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That really reinforced and started me on a whole pathway, which I think happens sometimes for young people in high school. And from that I studied Spanish. I went to Mexico in high school. I studied Spanish in college. I taught Spanish, I lived in Mexico. So all of that instigated that inspiration. I was trying to think if there was anything about high school, other— I was kind of in a sub- cheerleaders slot. I wasn't like in the cheerleaders, but I was like a substitute cheerleader, so I aspired and that kind of came out of my desire to move my body. I really liked dancing and it's a big part of my life. My whole life has been about keeping my body moving. I love that part. In college I was in a dance club. I took a lot of dancing and continued to study Spanish. I also studied French some and language. And I was in a sorority in college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=458.46,531.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where did you go to college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=532.12,532.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I went to college at DePauw University in Greencastle, Indiana. It was pretty conservative, it was the choice of my parents, although I had scholarships to go elsewhere. I went there, I was told to go there. So I did. That was when I began to branch out from my family conservative holdings and I did start drinking there and just partying, I was having a good time. I still did really well in school. I did well in my classes, although some classes were a struggle for me, the math and the— anyway. It wasn't a time when people still just got B.A.s. They didn't have like— just had a general studies. It was different, like you had a major, but you didn't degree in a particular program. So I took a lot of general classes, like geology— you had to take so many in science. It was sort of more like high school. And so I continued there and my major was Spanish and my minor was psychology. And from there I taught school. St.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=532.85,626.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis and Cincinnati.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=626.87,628.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you, in high school or in college, have any inklings that you might be a lesbian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=629.22,633.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Only with hindsight. I kind of knew what the word lesbian meant, sort of. It's hard to go back in time and separate my brain now to my brain then, because I just didn't have information coming to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=637.18,661.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't know what orgasm was. I didn't know what contraception was. I didn't know what intercourse was. I didn't know about any of that. Like, I didn't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=661.58,673.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You didn't know any sexual education in high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=673.41,676.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: They had about your period. They had those Disney movies about your period, to teach you that you bled and pictures of the— but they didn't talk about like penises and vaginas. They just talked about the female reproduction organs, like how they functioned and how to get your maxi pad, your pads up, with those clippy things. And my parents did not tell me anything. And so I—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=676.93,706.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were they religious?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=706.06,707.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: They came from a very strong kind of German background. So they weren't so much religious. Although, yes. Not like religious like you might think of today. But we did go to church often and we were in a sect called Evangelical Reformed United Church of Christ. And it was kind of a minimalized sect, I would call it a sect now, that was founded by my immigrant relatives. And we went every week until I refused to go. I would say it— I would say that religious experience— not the word tainted— influenced me in a negative way. I have prejudice about religion that I have to be careful about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=707.88,781.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What were your negative experiences about religion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=781.33,783.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Forced sitting in just pews for hours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=783.53,786.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you disagree—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=786.96,788.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Hypocrisy. People being in church, talking about one thing and then speaking racist, terrible things in their homes. I just saw the hypocrisy very young. I noticed that. I didn't say anything but I noticed. I didn't like it. Meanness. So let's see. Moving along. In college I lived in Spain, which was a fantastic time in my life. I applied and was accepted to Vanderbilt University year abroad or whatever it's called. I don't know what's called now. Then it was called that. It was completely eye-opening to me to live in another country. To see the United States from another country is chillingly eye-opening. And I lived there during the Cuban Missile Crisis and that was scary because I couldn't completely understand what was happening in Cuba.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=788.09,859.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I was in Spain living, like going to school and trying to read the papers and understand what was happening. I loved living in Spain and I didn't want to come back. And I stayed there for quite a while, but I did ultimately come back to United States and finish college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=859.94,878.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you make friends in Spain?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=878.47,879.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah, yeah. I didn't speak English for a long time and I had trouble adjusting coming back because I couldn't remember how to speak English. Literally, could not remember because I didn't speak English the whole time I was there. So I know how to speak Spanish. If I get started I can do it. But it's in there. So let's see. So I finished college. I had at a hard time at the end of college. That was when I started having panic attacks and anxiety and although I'd had them as child, I'm just noting that now, because I only understand that by looking back, which is true over and over in my life. At that point, I did teach in St. Louis for a while and I got married very briefly to a man and that most of— I didn't know. In addition to not understanding about sexuality, I had no learning about relationships. And so I made really bad choices. I didn't know how to choose people. I just had no understanding. No one told me how to do it. So I made some choices that were not good for me. Ultimately, I chose a lot of people that were addicts and I chose people like abusive relationships. So I went through some period of time after college and I got married and I left that person because it's completely controlling person. Anyway, so there was a period where I was married and then I went to— so the bridge to Eugene is that I was living in Cincinnati and I went with my then husband to a place, a commune in Indiana where he lived and his friends. And it was that place that I met someone and I lived in that commune for, I don't know, a year or two, I can't remember exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=881.39,1031.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it was there that I made a split with my family, because I just, they just were so angry at me, but I split and kind of became kind of nomadic and lived in a van and traveled around. And that's how I got to Eugene, it was through that travel with that guy I met. Who lives here still, we're still acquaintances and his daughter is my goddaughter, my thirty-one year old goddaughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1032.46,1066.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So would you back up a minute, when you got married, did your parents approve of the marriage?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1066.37,1073.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: No. No, not at all. And I was experiencing a lot of psychological problems. I was taking a lot of— not barbiturates— downers to keep myself calm. And so in that kind of haze of that, I got married, I'm still taking a lot of those drugs. Anyway. So yeah, they did not approve of that and I kind of escaped from— I call it escaped and went to live with a friend, and then I hooked up with the commune people. I mean, the details aren't that important, but I hooked up with that and it felt like, Oh, this is my place. I really like it here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1073.7,1127.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We lived in a commune outside of Richmond, Indiana, which is near Earlham and all the people, the men in that commune, were COs, conscientious objectors. And we just lived in this incredible place on this farm land that was owned by these two gay men who had swans, and were concert pianists or something. They lived over the Hill and they owned all this land. I don't know how those people that were there before me got there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1128.39,1161.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I still have some connection with those people. A little bit from time to time, I'll hear about them, but definitely Mitch, who I lived there with, we got a van together, before vans and just built a floor and traveled through Canada and through here, through the East Coast. Came back through Indiana, tried to make up with my family. It was a big scene, no, it didn't happen, and then went down to California and then up to Eugene and that's how I moved here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1161.92,1195.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what year did you come here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1195.66,1196.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Around ‘71. In the fall, it's coming to that time, like November. And at that time, in Eugene, it was a housing crunch and this is a really good story. We lived in a motel out on [Highway] 99, and we would run to get the paper, like we would run to wherever you could get the paper and tear the paper open and scan for places and run to a payphone to start calling because we couldn't find housing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1196.77,1230.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was so hard. And we finally found some terrible place over like on the outskirts of Springfield and we lived there for a little while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1230.79,1239.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we met some people through a more communal type- situation, the Growers Market. We joined like a social movement about creating a market and then my life began in Eugene from that. That's when my life began here, because I was totally committed in my however naive I was to like doing something. I really liked the feeling of doing something different and providing for people. I was political, I did antiwar work. And I still hold that, that whole feeling and understanding that I got from living in the commune and understanding the difference that it makes when you believe in people and want to create something different, stays with me. Now, I have done many things in my life because of that feeling that I know that you can change things by your action and in groups. So, we started Growers Market, which is still going, it's like forty-something years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1240.38,1314.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe Growers Market?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1314.07,1315.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Now— initially, it was in the garage, our garage with Bill and Vicki Nelson and we just created a way for people to order vegetables and food on like a paper piece of paper that we would tally cheese.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1316.17,1332.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then it just grew into this big organization where people would go out and purchase vegetables. Now it's in the Growers Market building, which we, the Market bought. I'm still a member there, but I don't go to meetings. But, and people can shop there for produce and staples. And it still goes today, where you can get a discount for working, for every half hour you get a little pumpkin and then you get a discount and the prices are phenomenal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1332.69,1372.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What year did you found Growers Market?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1372.94,1376.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: It was in like in that ‘73? I'd have to look that up in there, a couple of years of—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1376.18,1385.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How many people were the founders?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1385.06,1386.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: There was like five or six of us. There's pictures. The Growers Market has a historical— Vicki Nelson has historical photos and I have some of those photos of me, with very, very long hair and those like John Denver glasses, taking over the world, that kind of thing. So it was around that time that I was still partying quite a bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1386.72,1414.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when I separated from Mitch, we were still— we were young, we were in our twenties and I got pregnant from sleeping around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1415.04,1430.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And I did not want to have a child. I was scared that the “piddidle” out of me. I was at that time living in another communal situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1431.66,1443.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had broken up and I was in another communal situation with people that were in what's called, the group was called Medium Rare. And we were photographers and filmmakers like film, film, analog and we produced movies of events where we showed our films and photography at the WOW Hall. That was the time around when the WOW Hall got started, like got purchased and all of that started. There were other things and I know there were other things happening in the community that I wasn't a part of, but that's where I was. And it was in that period of time, in that household, I was attending a consciousness raising group at somebody's house over in the East Eugene and around the university. It was around that time that I came to understand that I felt attracted to women, but it wasn't like I just woke up and thought that, it was different things that happened where I kind of was in and out and still sleeping with men and still like feeling attracted to women and making out with women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1443.6,1520.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean it was just like, like things happening. I was in my twenties and taking advantage of my youth and then I got pregnant, and something about that experience just like, “I'm done.” I am so done with sleeping with men. I just felt really yucky. The whole experience. I was kind of not exerting much control in my behavior in parts of my life. I was still doing politics and stuff and Growers Market, and all of that. So, I attempted to sort of come out to some people. That was not a good experience, people rejected, some friends who are now lesbians rejected me, told me, no, no, no, we're not interested in you. But eventually I found other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1521.24,1581.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you have a girlfriend at this time, or had you had any sexual relationships with women?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1581.65,1585.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: No, nothing beyond kissing. No. No, no. Nothing below the neck.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1588.69,1595.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think shortly after that I got interested in Amazon Kung Fu and I became part of that. So I think that happened fairly soon around there. Because I remember the first person actually I was going to— Florence Buckley was the first person that I felt attracted to that was a lesbian that was not rejecting me. I remember her. I still have connection to her on Facebook. She lives in Philadelphia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1595.55,1628.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she was here a few like last summer or the summer before visiting other people. She might be somebody for you to contact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1630.24,1639.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then after Florence, I can start remembering the women that I had relationships with. I can kind of go: well, her, then her, I can do that. I can kind of do that now. Mostly the people that I was in relationships with or connected to the things I was doing, which was martial arts and then whatever I was doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1639.29,1667.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So those were the significant relationships that I can recall in that period of time that you're looking at a lot, in the ‘70s, people that— Victoria Shaw, Jackie Turell, Florence Buckley, Pam Malheur. And then around that time Gertrude’s Café, I was part of that. I was part of a poetry group and we published— I would gladly give you some my poetry books and Muff, Linda Rose and what's Muff’s name now? I can't remember her name right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1668.05,1703.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Marilyn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1703.77,1703.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Marilyn. Marilyn was there. It was Mother Kali’s. So, all of that started happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1703.76,1710.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what happened with your pregnancy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1711.15,1713.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Abortion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1713.39,1714.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And how was that, what year was that and what was that like for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1714.72,1717.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: At the time it was a relief. In retrospect, like everyone, not everyone, but many people, I do have regret. As I'm older, I have regret. I didn't younger, but as I'm older, I think— but it's like, decisions that you make, that I make, I can know why I did them, but you still have feelings about it when you look back. And that's what it is. I still have feelings. I don't think it was wrong what I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1721.58,1762.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think abortion is wrong. It's just I, at the time, the person I was, that's the decision she could make.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1762.87,1771.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you think you could have been a mother at that time, when you decided or you knew that you couldn't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1772.6,1778.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I had no idea of how to go about doing it. None. It was blank hole, terrifying idea. I lived in a commune. I don't even remember what kind of job I had, like retail or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1779.57,1796.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was abortion legal at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1799.69,1801.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Yeah. I went to a clinic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1801.78,1804.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So this was 1973?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1804.9,1807.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: It could be, I'm sorry, I can't be more specific about dates, I'm not good with dates.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1808.26,1814.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where was the commune that you lived at?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1814.63,1817.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Twelfth and kind of near the fairgrounds. Twelfth and Monroe like maybe a block in. I mean, I know which house it is. We called ourselves “Café des Poets.” It was so pretentious! But yeah, I'm still in contact with Tom Cook and Laurie Shaw. They live in New York, sometimes I see them, occasionally. They have a sister who lives here and children that are adults now. I don't know that I'm in touch with any— somebody recently died that was, but yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1817.92,1863.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So as a commune, you all worked and then contributed your money to the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=1863.97,1868.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: We lived communally. We didn't share finances. We lived communally. We each had a room, we shared meals. We would gather and talk on Sundays. We did these events. We were very connected with the media part of it. That was our focus. And that's how I got started thinking about being a photographer and I had a camera and all of that. 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And from the CO group, worked up the nerve to say something to her. I remember just feeling like, just kind of internally sweating bullets as they say. I remember going into her room and she was like, no, no, no, I don't feel that way. And this woman now is the lesbian and has a child, with another woman and lives in San Francisco. So I was not off the mark. I was on the mark. I was just too early. So I knew what was happening, but she didn't go for it. So, yeah. Allison, yeah, I remember that. Good question. 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There was no immigrants here then, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2004.77,2011.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If there were, I wasn't aware of it. And they weren't in our program. Is mostly very, very impoverished people living in trailers. Mostly in Creswell. Yeah. Yeah. There was a center at the— what used to be Holt adoption agency, used to be in Creswell. And then actually, I was— at that time I was living with Mitch still and his friend Tom, and we tried to get housing in Creswell and we could not get housing because we were three unrelated adults. We were rejected until we found like the upstairs of some house someplace. That was it before I came out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2014.54,2062.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, you found it to be a conservative place to live?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2062.31,2065.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yes. Well, they won't rent to us. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2072.35,2078.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I moved back to Eugene and ran a center here over on Nineteenth, there's a building that I don't know what's in it now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2078.25,2090.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's near the Music School. It's like west of the music school. The Head Start center was in there. And then I worked in the office. I can't remember where that office was, but Gary Koyen, I can remember the people that worked there. Anyway, I worked there for a while and, I'm having trouble remembering what I did after. I worked at the Labor Education Research Center for a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2090.61,2122.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was in the CETA Program, but I'd have to look at dates to remember when I did those different things. I think CETA came before LERC, I'm not sure. 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So it happened in there somewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2145.79,2147.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yes. There were, let's see. I think it was my first really partner relationship. Yes. 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Like it was like lesbian doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2163.4,2179.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So she was out in the police department then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2180.08,2182.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I don't know if “out” is the right word. There's something in between.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2182.28,2190.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Who were you pinning it on? Just a friend of hers. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2190.56,2197.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2197.36,2198.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: However it's interpreted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2198.72,2199.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2199.75,2199.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you remember what year that was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2200.1,2201.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Mid ‘70s, like ‘75, ’76. We were out there probably because— no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was eight. Let's see, when did I go to the UO? It was the ‘80s. I— back up. It was the ‘80s. It the ‘80s when we lived out there. Sorry. I had to backup from when I went to the UO and graduate program was in the late ‘80s, early ‘90s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2207.55,2241.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we lived in Marcola in the ‘80s. So I would say maybe ‘85, in there. Yeah, yeah. Now I'm oriented. Yes. Yeah, we lived out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2243.85,2253.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were out in that community. Yeah. Fairly. And yet again, I'm in a co-op, helped put together a co-op out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2254.09,2268.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2268.14,2268.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Just neighbors buying food together and distributing it at a central location. People would go into town and buy and then bring it back and we'd split it up. Yeah. And I worked for the City of Springfield and commuted back and forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2268.94,2286.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you do for them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2286.07,2287.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I was an assistant to the risk manager. And also I helped install their phone system. Like that project got assigned to me. I worked—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2287.94,2306.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Quite a distance from learning how to do the rotary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2306.21,2308.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I learned how to install phone systems and was the manager for that. And then, I got laid off from that job and the partner that I was with left me in the same week. And then after that I decided to go back to school and that's when I lived on my own out in Marcola and then moved back into Eugene eventually while I was in school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2308.72,2341.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What were you studying in school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2341.87,2343.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: The program I was in was the independent studies program that I set up and my areas were botany, environmental science and design.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2343.62,2359.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And why were you going back to school? What were you hoping to develop?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2361.6,2366.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Just something more suited to me. I mean, I'd had a lot of jobs that I did that utilized my great organizational skills, but they weren't really feeding me. They weren't giving me life. I was just— I was good at it, but I wasn't feeling joyful. So I was looking for— I was hoping to find more of something that felt better to me than the kind of work I was doing. That's what I can remember. And I loved design, but what happened was not what I expected. I started taking classes in photography and I was gone, just gone. I was completely besotted and I worked in an optics lab, and during that time, I was pretty out at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2366.85,2437.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't remember if there was any politics during that time, I was studying a lot. And I was dating and I was living out off of Arcadia Harlow Road and going to school after I moved from Marcola and the house sold. Then I was dating the one person that I used to date was at the event, Maureen McCauley. During that period of time, yeah. Before I bought a house over on West— Yeah. Anyway, so I was in school and really, and it was then I think after that I set up my own photography business and then from that time on I either had my own business and worked part-time for someplace else, and after that, that's what I did for the rest of my life till now, work, have some kind of job and then I have my own business at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2437.05,2506.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It's always been photography or your own business?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2506.02,2507.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: It was photography until I had cancer, because I did analog. I've worked—I did photography for the City of Eugene. I had bunches of clients until digital happened and that digital took my business down pretty much. It was like overnight and two things happened almost simultaneously. I had breast cancer diagnosis, that horror story and digital happened and those happened at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2508.23,2540.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When I came out of the breast cancer, digital had taken over the photography world and I had to find another way. 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For me when that scary of a thing happens is like, I'm not holding back. There's like, so what? It's nothing matters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2563.78,2580.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You're just who you are. I didn't feel like I had any— no. I was who I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2581.37,2591.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You were treated fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2591.73,2592.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah. I was more concerned actually about getting good care. That was my like “take care of the cancer.” Like, that's the goal. And I didn't, I mean, that experience really in my medical treatment, it's like, I always say, I have these— these are my issues. I have anxiety, these are what have to be paid attention to. When I go to the dentist, when I have any procedure, I tell them these things, and I always say, “I'll have someone with me. She's not my partner.” But I usually say, I'd always say I'm a lesbian, but if anything like that comes up, I'm like, I'm a lesbian. That's not going to, this form doesn't comply to me. So I'm just like, I don't hold back. That's done that. Any that resistance or any fear, I'm done with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2593.4,2672.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, digital took over and you couldn't follow that path because your art was different then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2672.68,2679.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Well, because that was how I was supporting myself and I was a black and white darkroom printer. I printed black and white. I developed film. It’s gone. It was now digital and I was angry. I said, I am never— I didn't want to buy digital equipment. I was just like, no, no, no. So I'm not sure how I got this idea, but I got an idea from somebody. The way to get into a new career is to volunteer, which is what I did. And that led me— I volunteered at Jacob's Gallery and like within two or three weeks I had a job there. It was really fast. Somebody left, blah, blah, blah. And, I was the designer curator there for ten years under the director as a contract employee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2679.69,2738.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that has been the way that I've gone somewhat. I worked at Lane on and off in a couple of departments, but it's the same kind of thing. I may have been an employee, but it was still a part time job. I still had contracting work that I did. I still do that now. I still have— am I an employee any place here now? No, I'm not. 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I create work on iPad and iPhone and I have a series. I think I sent a notice about that. Just going to open at Dotson's, like my reception next week and it's a focused on— I turn the camera on myself. It's about woman aging, but it's about the many faces of women aging, but it's a blended imagery. So when you look at it, you always go like, “Oh, where's the face?” Then you see the face and it's quite unusual, but not unusual in the iPhone, iPad app world. But for Eugene, nobody's doing this here, too much. There's another woman that does a little bit similar work to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2771.24,2841.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't talk a lot about it, about being lesbian in the work. It doesn't really come up, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't talk about it. That's kind of how I am in the outer world. Just I don't like— it's not what I lead with. That's what I’ll say. It's not how I lead with. I lead with being an artist, but the lesbian’s smooshed in there. But I don't lead with that. This is how I feel most comfortable. But I don't deny it. I don't not talk about it. 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That was more what was important to me at that time that I felt like, it was a new identity for me and it was exciting, and there were so many other women that were coming out at the same time that were in the group that you're interviewing, and so many places to go, and parties and gatherings and there was so much energy in that, that I felt very attracted to it and wanted to be part of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2898.33,2941.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Softball and Kung Fu and poetry and dancing, there was all these facets happening that were lesbian-identified or for lesbians or for women, and so it was a different kind of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2942.97,2963.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why do you think Eugene was the central point for lesbian community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2964.52,2967.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I have no idea. I don't know. It feels like providence or something. I don't have any idea. Like what made all these people move here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=2967.89,2978.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like I moved here, a lot of people moved here in the ‘70s from sort of some kind of migration of people, not just lesbians, but people that I know that were in Growers Market. All those people, like why did they come here? They did. And then it felt like all these people that were here came here and were. I can only guess that it's like a word of mouth kind of thing. Like, we didn't have Internet but people were telling their friends, “Oh, there's lots of lesbians here.” And people start hearing it and come. 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It didn't drop—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3029.5,3033.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you go down there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3033.22,3033.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: No, I wasn't drawn to it. I was happy it was happening. I was happy to know about it. It was exciting. I knew lots of people that were there. I knew people that were there and they would come here. 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And I was aware of what's her name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3052.14,3057.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Ruth Mountaingrove.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3058.63,3059.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yes. I was aware of her, there were many women that I have their books and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3059.49,3064.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Tee Corinne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3064.13,3064.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yes. Completely aware of those things. Thank you for reminding me. But I wasn't drawn to do that kind of work. Now I would be, more, but then my focus was really— and I don't know if you know that I have like tons and tons of black and white photography from the those years that I was taking photographs. I have negatives from that whole 2 1/4 and 35 mm. I don't think I have any films that I made. I think they got lost, but I was more— it's was just a different focus for photography, but totally admiring and very like looking at the magazines and getting— thinking about it. Oh yeah, yeah. Drawn to it for sure. And women's music. I was in an Olivia rep for a while. 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I mean, I would sponsor and do those concerts, sell records, house them, do all of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3136.3,3166.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That was a very central part of the community as music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3167.86,3171.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah. I had all those records and sold the records and yeah, I still have— I don't have them all. My record collection got flooded, it got damaged in a basement flood. I still have some on tape that I made. Baba Yaga. I mean all, there's so many. Alix Dobkin. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3171.38,3197.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What are your recollections of all of the ballot measures?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3197.81,3202.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Referendum 51, Ballot Measure 8, Ballot Measure 9.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3203.21,3207.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I did door-to-door work in Springfield. Painful. It was painful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3207.91,3216.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you describe some of the interactions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3217.69,3219.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: People yelling at us. People throwing things at us. I was younger and whatever, how old I was, I still felt righteous and it was the right thing to do. I wore buttons, I marched, I did whatever was happening. I was doing it but at the same time— I think I was, I can't remember who I was partnered with at the time. This memory, I went to couples counseling. And I remember I had nightmares. I was having nightmares.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3220.03,3270.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, a lot of people were very frightened at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3273.34,3275.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I was frightened. There were periods— I don't remember what years the Riv Room happened, but I remember being afraid that someone was going to go by and shoot us. I just— I mean, it would go in my mind. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3275.12,3277.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, some of the rhetoric was very violent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3295.57,3299.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah. Still is. I have had a couple incidences happen when I was traveling in Oregon, that I felt like it was dangerous and had to leave, that something bad could happen. I remember being with Jackie and it just felt wrong or bad. And I said, I think we have to get out of here. And another time when I was camping with some lesbian friends out in eastern Oregon out on the road, and I just was so afraid of these people that were following us. Bad things can happen like that in isolated situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3299.86,3354.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And there were some murders that happened. I'm sure you heard about those and thought of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3354.25,3361.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Those are some early memories that particularly I think with Jackie that was happening when the hate stuff, like Lon Mabon and they're still doing it over in Europe and Sweden or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3361.06,3376.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's still freaking doing it even though we have told them to get the hell out of here. But anyway, it's painful. It's just fricking painful. The hate that people have. It's confusing to me. It's confusing. My family, my mom, my youngest— my middle sister, they still— my mom was, to her deathbed, still— not on her deathbed, but still, through the years of talking to her, still was holding onto this— like, what did I do? Like she still could not, of all the times I've sent her literature and sent her books and had conversations. I finally— and this is something, I don't know, if this is a word of advice. I chose at a certain point to stop trying, just to go with like, do the best you can, at being kind to people and just stop trying to get them to get on board with who you are. How many years can you do that? 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I can let go of all the meanness that's been put on me and just come to this place. And that's partly— I mean, my mom and my dad died in the last couple of years and I may have mentioned this, that my youngest sister died less than a year ago and she was the person that accepted me, no questions asked. So, that was a painful loss for me. And she has an adopted child who now lives with her father, adopted from China and I do have connection with her. And it's an interesting dynamic for me as a person in a family. They're all deeply Christian religious people, Jesus people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3468.41,3539.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know people can get to this place, but I want to salvage what I can have with them. I'm not going to confront them anymore. I spent so many years confronting and trying get them over to love me for who I am kind-of-thing. And people have different opinions. But for me, that's where I have to be. If I want to be connected to these people—this is like the child of my dead sister—I want to be connected with her. I have to go somewhat on their terms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3545.78,3586.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How old is she?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3586.22,3589.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Sixteen. Yeah. So, and in the world now, I don't know if you want— it's still important to me to be a lesbian. It's still very important to me. My comfort zone for socializing is with women that are lesbians kind of in my age bracket, not all of them are in my age bracket, but close. That's the most comfortable. Like my closest friends are all lesbians. They're in their ‘60s, early ‘70s. I have a couple of friends that are younger but that we call ourselves lesbians and that's what we are, and that's where I'm most comfortable. I mean, I really like that place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3590.08,3651.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How do you stay connected and find each other, or just stayed friends all these years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3652.13,3658.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Well, some of it has been, I would think just people that I know from social connections or that I'm not sure how I know, like, Laura and Ellen. Some people I get to know through like there's a kind of floundering older women's older lesbian group meetup. And I met one person that I'm sort of social friends with and we just get together. We go to the pool, we go hiking, we go walking. I don't know exactly how to answer, but we feed the friendship. We feed the friendship. And I reach out to other people. I'm trying to get to be friends with a couple of new people now, because I'm single and I want to have a mixture of people to be connected to. I remember a couple of weeks ago, I was at Art in the City, downtown, and I sat down at a table and at the table there was Harriet and Yona, a woman named Jerri and a woman named Carol.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3660.06,3756.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we were all sitting there, we were just talking and after I got up I thought this is what I like. It's sort of like we speak a common language, we speak a common kind of understanding. Some of us have lived similar ways. We're sort of in the same age group. We have some similar things that have happened in our history. That's what I mean. And I texted all of them, and I said, we must all— wouldn't it be great? Maybe we could all get together again sometime. And that's how this seed of something can happen. It might not have been for that, but that's how I started the Lez Dance thing, is I'm like out with some people and I'm partner dancing and I'm thinking, I want this, I want this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3756.03,3820.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It's interesting, when you've watched and you've been able to make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3821.06,3823.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3823.88,3824.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Some way you're organizationally talented at that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3824.62,3829.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I do. I do that and that's how I am doing in my art. Like, I want that art to be seen. I want people to understand it. I feel like it's important. And I just— I get ideas that don't pan out. But yeah, that's how I have felt over time and sometimes people are already doing it. I'm like, Oh great. I don't have to organize that one. But yeah. Yeah, that's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3830.08,3861.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, you lived through a really incredible time here in and a lot of people still live here, I wonder if you can see traces of— not even traces, but the influence that your work in community had on Eugene as it exists now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3861.46,3877.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Well, I think that people seeing other organizations happen that were born of someone's seeing something that's needed, when they see that they're empowered to think, Oh, I could do that. So, I don't know of a specific instance, but I'm guessing that, example or modeling, influences others. And I think that's an extremely important role, is to be a model of behavior. A model of organization. Just behavior alone is enough in the world. Just in that. And under behavior is like how do you connect with people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3883.7,3942.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How do you connect with the goodness of people? How do you create good for others? How do you make it happen? And that to me, is the way that other people can see that, “Oh, they did that out of nothing.” I mean I sometimes talk with Vicki Nelson and I said, sometimes I wonder like why? How did we ever just like, we just believed things were possible and I think that kind of feeling is something sometimes people don't have in a world today that feels so hard for us and culture, that we have to reach beyond that and see that things are possible. And a lot of people do that, I mean this may be an odd example, but the people whose children were murdered in those mass shootings, like they have to reach beyond the terrible experience that they had and see that something is possible. I mean, that's a pretty dramatic example but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=3944.02,4024.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: I just thinking that on a much less intense level, that somebody was talking in an interview about a tool library that existed. And how great that tool library was. And a few years ago, a new tool library was built over in the Friendly neighborhood. That's really great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4024.44,4040.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they know the history of what existed before and so sort of already had a way of conceptualizing a new tool library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4040.32,4048.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: And that can be true with anything. I mean, I go to the Whiteaker community council meetings and there are a lot of people, young people in those meetings. They believe things are possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4049.82,4059.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: They know your history? They know what's happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4061.23,4063.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Sometimes, I don't talk a lot in that meeting. I just like to know what's going on and voice my opinion about some things that I don't care for. But, I can see where that idea— people look and say, Oh, people did, like we used to do Neighborhood Watch. Like we would walk, I was part of a neighborhood watch. We'd walk around neighborhoods and stuff and somebody mentioned it and I said, well we used to do that. We used to do that. We used to meet and walk around and pick up needles and make ourselves present.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4063.98,4107.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I think that's a good modeling behavior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4108.39,4112.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When you think about aging in Eugene, is there an ideal living situation that you would like to see?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4112.64,4119.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Well, I wonder about this because I own a house and I live on my own and it's progressively more difficult to maintain a home as one ages. And I think, well, I lived in communal situations before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4119.05,4142.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe that's where I'll go. I think, well that would be a natural kind of step to be in some place where there's other people, I've lived a lot of years alone, so it would be a little bit of a challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4142.31,4160.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But given the right people the concept seems right for me to be some place where like-minded people— you like to commiserate and talk about the past, but I still, I don't want to give up like action, that we do things together in some way. It could be gardening, whatever, but something that is along the lines of ways to live and connect at the same time. I mean, I still do that in my neighborhood, but I live alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4160.55,4199.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Yeah. Thinking about your time in Eugene, can you think of what brought you the most joy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4199.47,4205.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Probably the most joy. I would say in terms of an org— the Lez Dance time was so fun because I was doing something I really loved and I got other people interested, and that was a really great time. And something that's related but not exactly is, living in the West is so different than living in the Midwest. The beauty of the state astounds me, and moving here allows me to be part of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4210.63,4264.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's so gorgeous here. That may not be what you're looking for, but that's why, I just, places I go with my friend Ellen when we go hiking. She's Ellen Rifkin. I mean, we can just go to these gorgeous places. We just drive and we're there, just mountains and rivers and it's so beautiful, and so that allows me to be, and her, there's a recharge. There's a way that I can like I shed the harshness and like be connected back to— if you say earth water, whatever, the way that things are, to come back and keep going. I would say those two things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4265.61,4333.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Had you talked about Lez Dance in any detail? You started this—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4333.62,4340.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Did I talk about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4340.98,4342.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yes. I don't think you've talked about it in any— can you tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4342.59,4346.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Well, I had a very close friend, Kathy Maedl, also a lesbian friend of mine. We were taking dance lessons together. We were not partners, but we made a commitment to take lessons. I would think this was in, I'd have to look in the paperwork, but I don't know how long ago she died. But we were taking lessons and I really— after cancer, I committed myself to dancing. I thought, I almost died. What do I want to do? And that's my commitment, was to dance. And so I started doing a lot more, going dancing more. And then with Kathy, we were taking ballroom dancing and there were a lot of women that were doing ballroom. Sandra and Linda, there were couples, but not all couples. Some single woman. My best friend Ellen, Laura is a ballroom dancer. And all of that got started through a small group. Harriet also started a little group before Lez Dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4346.08,4424.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's lesbians wanting to dance with other lesbians in partner dancing. It's like, we want to do this. We like doing it, we want to do more. And that was the motivation. I like it. I want to do more, I want to do it with my group. And so I think a few of us met at maybe Kathy's house, LaRosa, myself, Maura Scanlon. I can't remember who else was in that little group. And then that went on for a while. We hired teachers and all of us became clear about— the thing that was really great about it, I mean there were a lot of great things, dancing with lesbians in partner dancing is wonderful. It's just wonderful. And so we did a lot of that out in the world and then in class. But we also started going to classes with people that were not predominant, were mostly heterosexual and they weren't clued in about how to talk about the partners.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4425.11,4507.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because they were all used to seeing the girl, the boy, the man and the woman. So we pushed on that everywhere we went. Lead and follow, lead and follow. Those are the words you use, because that's really what it is. So then whoever is in that role can be any person of any make or persuasion. It doesn't matter who that person is. So that was a significant force I think. And still is, like when I go out dancing sometimes and sometimes I'm the lead, sometimes I'm the follow. And I think it's important for people to see that women can do either, can be an either role. We had some pushback in some classes. People were mean and we had to call— still, it goes on. There were some of us that had to take the teacher aside and pointedly said, if you want us in your class, you need to have us in your class, please adjust the language. Please adjust the language, because Kathy was the lead. She's not a man. She's not a boy. She's a lead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4508.06,4592.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What would the teacher say? Like, “Men, start leading?”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4593.96,4598.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: “Men, right foot forward?”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4600.56,4601.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: If you have two lines of dancers, you've got the leads and the follows, and they'd say, men take the lady by the hand. It's like, no, “Lead take the follow by the hand.” The language was not appropriate, in my world. And so then we would do push back on that. And sometimes people were uncomfortable, like they didn't want to switch, they're comfortable. That happens all the time with language, now, with trans people, you don't want to switch, you don't want to change your habit. But yeah, we did that a lot and then we just had a lot of fun because we could go places and we had a little group that could go and when there was dancing at Kowloon’s for a while, the Lips Dance group, we could go, we would go early and ask them to play the music. So we would have the whole dance floor and we could do partner dancing on that great dance floor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4601.98,4671.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, it's not happening right now, because some of us are aging and it's harder. It's harder for me to be a partner dancer. I can do it for a while, but not a long time like I used to. But there's a group called Track Town Swing. And those young people, they have dances at the Vets Club and you can be lead or follow. There's no blinking an eye. There’s no blinking an eye. You can do what you want. And sometimes a group of us will go to that, because it's a safety zone because nobody's doing “boy and girl.” They're going “lead and follow” “lead and follow.” So that was fun. It was fun. It was a good contribution to the dance world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4672.63,4729.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Excuse me, what were those years? For Lez Dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4729.94,4733.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I don't know. I'd have to look in the paperwork. Early 2000s, because my cancer treatment was over in ‘97. Took me a couple of years to get things together. So I would say in the early 2000s. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4733.63,4757.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks for asking that. It was a great contribution. There were no lesbian teachers, so we had to teach all our teachers how to talk to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4759.18,4771.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: See, I think that's a great example of what I was asking before about the influence of your work. It's made an influence on what's happening at the Vets Club and for all the trans kids who are dancing and they couldn't use that language either, but now you've fixed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4772.6,4788.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: We contributed a section to it, and the Vets Club is actually a place that a lot of lesbians go. It's an interesting— not just the upstairs class, but the downstairs. A lot of older lesbians go sometimes as groups. And it's really a place that nobody messes with you there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4788.2,4816.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's an interesting combination of people, but it's very okay. It's very okay. There's something about the blues community dancing in that particular venue, that it works. It works good. I feel very safe there. So I haven't been in a while, but I feel very safe. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4817.12,4844.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: On a really unrelated topic, I was wondering when you were talking earlier about your proficiency with Spanish, whether you participated in— there was a time when Eugene was a sanctuary city, more Guatemalan refugees and through, no—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4844.01,4858.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: No, no. I have a close friend who married her girlfriend and lives in Salem, Yolanda. And for a while I had conversation, we would speak, but I am not speaking right now. I don't have a place. It's not a high on my list right now, but I have a draw to things Spanish, particularly, just every once in a while something will come up. My friend Adrienne is traveling to Guatemala and she's learning Spanish and I speak with her a little bit, text in Spanish. I have my phone so I can switch back and forth to force myself to use it a little bit. I can get a little intimidated by native speakers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4858.84,4907.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Sure. Yeah. Was there something we didn't touch on? Some topic that you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4907.96,4914.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Mind if I just look here for a moment, see if there's anything. Did you— I'm assuming that you do have all the names of the different bars because that was really a scene that I participated in all the different—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4914.54,4939.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Just tell us—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4939.85,4940.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Well, I can't remember all the names of them, but Riviera Room, Perry's, I think that was downstairs. There was one at the Eugene Hotel, that I think maybe, did Terry Bean do that? There was one upstairs in Eugene Hotel for a while. It was a great place. It didn't last very long. There was one that was in the building that is now the Oregon Social Learning Center. It was a lit up floor. It was very cool. If I talk to people, I could get the names and then the one that was at the U of O. That was one of the last ones too, over behind where Hirons is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4941.15,4985.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiksin: Oh, the Neighbors that was in the McDonald's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4986.15,4989.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yes, Neighbors. Those are the ones that I know of. And then of course the newer renditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4989.46,4998.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And now they're starting the new Spectrum. So that'll be interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=4998.2,5002.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: But all of those were very much, were for me a place to go to be with friends. And I think an important, although, a lot of people have stopped drinking as they age, but still it was the place that a lot of people went to be with other lesbians. I mean, we went there to be with them and dance and socialize, and a lot of ideas came from hanging out in those places. And I think that it could be that the cafe and Gertrude's Café, and the other things are in somewhat a response to taking things out of that alcohol venues that in my early years, that was what was there, the Riviera Room, going to the bars. And that's the place to dance. And I like to dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5002.52,5063.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That's been the through line for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5063.21,5065.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: Yeah, I would go to a place that dances. The problem with the bar right now, that new bar that has concrete floors, it's really hard on your back. But the places that had nice wooden floors, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5065.35,5079.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Maybe the new place will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5079.39,5080.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: I mean, but they'll have a false, those like false floors make it really good for the people that are aging. But yeah, I would say that that would be, oops, sorry. I'm trying not to do the microphone thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5080.38,5094.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was something that I wanted to— I think it's important. Let's see. I think that's, I believe that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5095.15,5107.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: We've been asking people who have been here for a long time and been lesbians for a long time and to have such a rich life experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5108.31,5116.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have any advice for young person who might be watching this video at some point soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5116.6,5120.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: The thing that pops in my head is, life can feel very dramatic. And I would say that, if it were for me to be able to do things over again or kind of give advice to myself, is to learn how to take your attention off drama. There's so much life to be lived, that focusing on who's going with who and like the drama and finding, pulling yourself back from that if at all possible and figuring out what your place is. That would be what I would say. Like, if you can do that, I mean, it's a skill. It's a skill that has to be learned, how to take yourself out of drama.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5120.95,5210.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think— this is my opinion. As Americans, we can be addicted to drama. Our attention is pulled constantly into things that are not serving us, as human beings. And the more we can learn to keep our attention on what's good for us and to honor what our goals are, the better our lives are going to be. Because ultimately like you will know what more— what you want. If you're not going towards something that's [gestures circling], doing this, that would be— that's something that took me a while to understand how to do that, and have fun. Dance more, have fun, that's what I'd say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5212.31,5273.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5273.07,5273.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Detroy: You're welcome. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5273.54,5277.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289#t=5277.73,5277.83"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56017/file/130289/transcript/92574/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/574/original/763_Coll520_do012_aligned.vtt?1776852349","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/574/original/763_Coll520_do012_aligned.vtt?1776852349"}]}]}]}