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It's just describing a guy who spends all of his life selling computing machines, you know, like grocery clerks. And now, you know, and he's writing a novel, and he. He began to. I asked him. Well. He quoted something from Shakespeare, he said, which is at the beginning of one of his chapters, said, let's see what. Simply being. 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And helping you think that when you read it, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1096.21,1104.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e See, that's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1105.21,1105.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e What I want to. That's what we're under. What can. You. Say Hemingway, but. Prayer? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1106.14,1119.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't. I don't think too much reading. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1119.9,1121.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, I don't I couldn't suggest too much of it. I was just. 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You.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1129.5,1134.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Know, I was just trying to place it somehow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1138.05,1140.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's hard to just talk about why if you do it this way or that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1141.51,1145.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1147.89,1147.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I really do know. And I was talking to Bruce the other day was that the door is still the target. Is that. You really when you when you get enjoyment out of a relationship with a girl sleeping by their side and it's real, boy, you know, you feel something great. It's great. It's just it's just comparable to that is when you take your still picture. And at that moment, you know, you really got it. You got something you don't have to explain or, you know, you know, you've got something great there. What is there to talk about it when you feel it. You feel it. And it's it's something indestructible. No critic or anybody else can tear it apart like they can and try to and sometimes succeed. Which is when you write a whole book that is consistently correct all the way through. Correct. In that sense that you know that you've got to get it right. And listen, I think to it, if you. Think you're starting out, you're starting out on the right and the right track. 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You're obviously going through this kind of experiences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1251.92,1258.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And searching for it, but here you go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1259.69,1263.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think in a way, I guess you can say that. 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And undergo it and film it at the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1295.97,1299.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I tried something like that. Didn't work out too well. I hope to get back to it. That's one reason why I'm inventing this little gadget. I wanted to make a film called Huda Food. What about that? 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Meaning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1389.87,1391.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If the person you're trying to meet has a camera, right? But I see this is what, in a way, what you're trying to do. Yeah. This is one of the reasons that led you into this long shot technique in the long run technique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1392.24,1403.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1403.58,1403.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is to have an experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1404.24,1406.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And even within that, it's also within that long shot. If it's continue that way, it works to the filmmaker's advantage. In a sense, the press and the people in it. They have to break down. They have to break down and reveal themselves within that long run. Whereas in the short take and they can put the mask on and take it off. This was this was this could feel this thing was one continuous run. 30 minutes of film without stopping. And think of 30 minutes, the first 30 minutes that you meet somebody. Cameras on them all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1407.27,1446.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But we don't see you at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1447.16,1448.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, you don't need to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1448.3,1449.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It was a subjective kind of lady in the lake. Okay. What do you think of the ranges of this? This kind of stuff? This is not a dramatic approach to filmmaking. There's a little bit in for a dream and a certain experiential aspect to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1449.2,1469.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Most dramatic if the if it's essentially a dramatic adventure film that you like, film like the hustlers. And the story? Why couldn't why can't somebody find a story like that that's just about to take place? Let's say that, you know, of a champion card player. I call up a card player, let's say, and you know that he is been itching to to put himself up against another card player. Well, talent. 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If you wanted to follow the hustle, you'd have to have the relationship between the guy and this girl and hiding that, you know, hiding out in the room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1511.99,1521.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That that's probably. And it could be all there, all those elements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1523.23,1528.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When they're making love. Can you do that for the real. Thing on Earth? I know there's that one thing that's been brought up. Can you do or is this even. Does this even fit in? I just. Can they do comedy with a sort of a technique? Well, I don't think you can do comedy. I think there may be some funny things that happen with the paper, but I personally don't think that you can make a comedy with cinema verité. Because comedy is a is an artificial thing. It's it depends on a certain rhythm or not. De surprises and very definitely planned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1529.61,1569.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, as close as what do you think or do you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1572.25,1575.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think that even enters into the field?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1575.76,1577.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sure that I think you're right, that in practice I think is what you're saying is right. And that comic pieces. But a lot of comedy. Have you seen quintuplets? No. Well, I I. There is a very funny. Ricky's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1577.77,1596.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Ricky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1596.66,1596.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e When you when you go over there, you just see it. Yeah. Nelson's supposed to be. Yeah. I don't think they're letting it out or out, but. But. Well, I just see it there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1600.2,1609.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And there's some trouble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=1609.95,1612.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e With that magazine. 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A beautiful day. April 10th this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=2211.64,2217.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The age of abundant bondage. He loved it like no one else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=2218.15,2223.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e After that, there. Was only call back to the lab and found the body of How do you do it? How are. You doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=2226.07,2249.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This is all a reception the night after ten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326#t=2251.36,2253.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262326/transcript/76704/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Within the framework of this event. You can't do it for my friend or for the published letting Go. And then we. Do you hate him a little bit. Every day you'll learn something. I can't have I signed up to. This guy's on the line. He's got a very vulnerable part about him. He's got a feeling of sympathy. I mean, what do I have to do? I feel I maybe in a way, that's the way I sit here. 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Well, this is this is a good friend of mine that was over these pieces listening to this email. Oh, nice. Debbie. 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Yeah. Another day, another day. Another angle. That way you can go back on that. But, William. How are you? We know you're the pitcher. I know, I know. I know, you know. 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See you all in a bit. We'll check it some more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=7.33,17.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e She won't go anywhere, she won't have to go out with me anymore. There you go. I got a remote to start. They want to do it in 35. They want it to do in 35, is that 35? 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There was not director, really. Except that they ran through the thing the way they did every time in two cities. You know, that's the style. It looked like a nightclub routine to me. Yeah, it is. That's what it is, exactly that. 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I hear he was ill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=341.14,344.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, we're doing it. Anyway, Gordas said it was the first time he felt he was on holiday. Yeah. And he said again, he said, again, exactly that he believes in this, that this filming works, this kind of filming works. And I'm sure Brooks doesn't believe this way, and I know that Shirley Clark doesn't believe this, or practice it, that the photographer has to be given complete freedom. Right. Somehow or other, the director has complete freedom and the photographer has complete freedom. Because in order for a documentary approach to work, the photographer has to have complete freedom. He has to catch it as a documentary. It's like, would it work for a still photographer like Henri, who worked to have any imposition on him It's been to be told anything or what to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=348.2,405.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But then he's the creator, you see. Cathy Bresson is the creator involved, the reactor, the artistic agency. Whereas, what Goudard is doing is rather interesting, because what it implies, finally, is that there are two creators that are almost at equal importance, and the cameraman is almost, in some ways, of greater importance, because you are selecting, you're doing your own. Type of mise en scene, not by creating, but by selecting, you see, which may or may not or is Godard looking for the... The accident, the thing that arrives, it comes out of this sort of blind collaboration between you two, you see. He's hoping that something that he didn't even suspect would come out of it, that's the magic. Now, what does this mean, you know? This is kind of frightening when you think of it. If you are a director and you think in terms of camera work, then finally your only recourse is to be your own cameraman. I mean, what happened? What he's got here is, for me, kind of amazing, that he would give you that much liberty, you see. And that thing has confidence in your eye and in your ability to choose. And he hopes, somehow, that between the two, he's going to come up with something that would be just as entertaining for him and surprising, I suppose. 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I'm sure that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=529.11,532.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e David Mason.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=536.86,537.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean what the hell? He's doing everything. You want sugar? No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=538.56,545.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't want to do this, but I thought it was you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=545.72,547.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Good ol' eye-opening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=547.51,548.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's probably very, very hot, so be careful. How much can the director ask for? He's chosen the persona, the people in the drama. He's written the script, and he controls pretty much what they do. Actually, he's left it a little bit open, actually. As to what they're precisely going to do and say is left that over to Well, Jesus that's that's determining a hell of a lot what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=557.55,597.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What interests me though is that this style, I couldn't see Truffaut doing this in a way because I think while Truffau uses a very fluid camera, a lot of the tone of his work comes from just the right angle or using the kind of camera movement that he's using and so forth. Whereas Goudar has always worked toward a kind of anarcho-feeling of either pursuing the people or sitting back and just watching the people and not having any control of them. He's always trying to, it seemed to me in most of his films, leave a great amount of improvisation to the people, and to the camera. And this seems to be just a culmination of a point of view. So in a way, Godard is, by making the choice to leave everything open to you, he is, well, you do what you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=597.91,675.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e After he has done what he wants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=675.27,677.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e As far as the movement is concerned. Movement? Words? He is... He knows that this kind of technique, which in some places does not give you all the information, in which he sometimes remains out of contact with the people, perhaps, or something like this, you know. He knows this will in some way create the tone that he's looking for, I think, you see. So I think rather than using it just as a movie, as a way of making a movie using it as a particular kind of movie that expresses him, you see, all of the... What I sort of feel, what has been called an archaic sort of attitude. I don't know whether that's really being fair to him or not, but anyway there's this tone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=680.11,729.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I strongly feel that this way that he has is the best for him, the best for me, the Best for the film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=729.4,738.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, all right, so that communicates the tone of the film, the idea of the film. One thing that's interesting. I don't know what I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=740.37,751.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, Tony comes on Wednesday. I think it's yeah, you should be here","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=763.61,767.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Uhhh... What would you, how would you reply to Pauline Kalesman, like, that this is a, this is, essentially you're not filming truth or reality, you're filming trivia, just surface trivia, you know. She calls it trivia, I think that's a loaded word, but what she's saying, in a calmer manner I suppose you could call superficiality, just the surface of the events. This is an attack right at the whole system, you see, not at you directly, or it's not made of viciousness, but she just honestly feels, as she told me, according to what she told to me, that this doesn't hold up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=768.16,819.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Somebody in, uh... I think Schlesinger wrote a piece in the show magazine, and one of the phrases that he used was that we had captured the inconsequences of life. Which is using the same words that she has, but to him it was important. Life is made of trivia. In a sense, Levine is a very trivial person. But he's one of the most important types in our society today. And the only way to understand him filmically is to catch him as a trivial person, to catch the trivia. The people who surround him and the yes-men around him are trivial people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=821.64,883.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think she was talking about trivia in the sense of just saying that none of what we were seeing was only surface and did not penetrate somehow into the person. Would you deny that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=885.14,900.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He just doesn't see it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=901.58,905.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, David.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=906.91,907.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Other filmmakers and writers think that they're catching important things and they...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=911.73,918.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=918.64,918.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, and... To me they're not getting... I can see that they've cut the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=919.67,933.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Thank you. Well, it seems that we've got a basic, different approach to whatever it is that the thing you're using for your subject or to create feeling, because I think you can get feeling in your film, one, everything is created out of whole. Excuse me, what is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=933.98,961.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=964.04,964.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I suppose you can arrive at a kind of truth, such as you do in theater, where everything is created and played, you know, and communicated. She said one other thing to me, which kind of stopped me, she said, in your film, she was talking about mine, where I was using non-actors, she says, you were using non actors as actors. You were directing them, there was two of us directing them. Oh, she's talking about you. My film, yeah. She says, you're using them as actors, because they're expressing something in a way. She says you're confusing non-acting with good acting, you know. And she says what you're after is finally good acting. And I couldn't make her understand, I couldn' find the words myself either, to get the in my mind toward this kind of A kind of creative effect making by actors, you know, no matter how skillful, and something that had the essence of being, of existing before and independent of the camera.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=965.65,1038.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would like her to tell me if she were to make or she were to advise a filmmaker to do a film of Levine, assuming, as I suppose, that she thinks he's worthwhile doing, if you can get behind the trivia, okay? I would her to me or that other person... One instance of what she would have Levine say that was different from what appeared in the film. What would be an example of what was non-trivial? What could he possibly say that would be non- trivial? There would be Yeah She found him I assume that she found that the way we did it non-trivial, I mean trivial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1039.45,1096.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That you were attaching, now what, I don't want to misrepresent or argue it too much, I mean it was a remark not a systematic argument, and what was interesting about it was that it characterizes some of the approaches, some of criticisms you run into against cinema or what we're dealing with. Was it not that... We were seeing that this was a trivial person or anything of this nature, but that the little incidental things of life that you were gathering were, if we accept them as authentic, they were nevertheless not meaningful. They did not reveal something about the people, you see. And then another thing she said. Is that even then, he says, you cannot say that this is reality. This is another point to go down to. You cannot say this is a reality because these people are playing for the camera despite the fact that they are themselves. Thank you, sir. Now, on this one, she was putting in the question, she was questioning, saying that nothing is reality, you cannot photograph reality, reality is something deeper than the surface, and that at any rate, everything you're doing, the people are aware of the camera, and at any rate, you were but assembling, I think the way she put it was that you were doing I think that assembling quotations... 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Then I would say...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1214.81,1224.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Or that something on the readings, you know, whether we had it, whether she wanted it played by an actor or what, I don't know, but you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1225.66,1232.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Whatever, whatever the theme is of Levine, I would say, I would say I would defy her or anybody to come as close as we did by doing it with an actor or getting Levine to act or whatever technique they as a, as a substitute for what we've done. Let them let them Let them or tell me how to do it better. I'd like to see it done","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1232.94,1261.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think she's attacking the fact that she did it well in terms of working in this kind of technique, but that she's saying it is impossible for you to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1262.31,1272.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's get home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1274.03,1274.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To uh... With this technique to achieve that reality because you have to make decisions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1274.57,1279.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e She is saying, though, that with this technique, we are hampered more than helped. Okay, I'd like here to tell me how, by any other means, we could have done it better. I don't see how one can. Let's assume that Levine is aware of the camera and that is detracting from getting more at the substance of what's going on. Away from the trivia and that it's that as a matter of fact let's say that it is actually changing distorting reality I'd like to know by any other means actors or any other way a script what have you you could get closer to what is to what Levine really is I don't think so I think we've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1281.289,1331.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I have a feeling that she feels that you miss a lot of context around him, other aspects of him, rather than kind of slavishly following him. I don't mean to use loaded words here, but you follow him. But she feels that, she may feel that it lacks... Other dimensions that you have discovered as an artist and revealed that he doesn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1331.57,1365.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would agree that there's a hell of a lot more that we'd like to get deeper to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1366.89,1376.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you feel this doesn't condemn the system, are they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1376.46,1378.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But I think that our approach is the correct one. We had very little time with him. I won't even say that when I make excuses. No, but the actual time with them was where we could be filming. Very short. 15 hours? Really? When we were in Cannes, we had the grace given to us. We were there for two weeks, maybe, but we weren't able to shoot more than 25 minutes, I don't think. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, uh... Okay, I'll put it into your book. But I would... I would disagree. I think that we are on the right track and if we were to depart from this method, we'd be just going astray.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1378.9,1442.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you think that if you'd had more, you would have been able to get deeper into","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1444.12,1449.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1450.76,1451.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Be the same, using the same technique, not telling him what to do in any instance. But, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1452.11,1457.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, it's got an A. It's cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1459.06,1460.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, for example, the Hilkey thing. There was a third dimension to that that we didn't get. You know what I mean by the Hilkeys. No, I don't. The Boston banquet. Oh, yeah. He addresses himself to Hilkey and the group telling him. Is my old friend Hilke, is he here? And then he goes and he talks about the poor, the old days, that how poor he was and that this... Thing that he had with Hilke as a child, how poor they were, and that Hilke was the only rich kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1462.45,1500.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Mm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1500.66,1500.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Then later on, the second dimension of that was in his office when he's talking to his buddies there, his two friends. He goes back and says, well, at the Boston Bank where I talked about Hilke. And I'm going to see Hilke one of these days when we have him over the house. Because there he's talking privately to these two guys, to get that dimension of it, before he was talking at the banquet, where Hilke was actually right there. Now the third thing would have been, if we were there at Levine's home filming, when Hilke actually did get there. Because Hilke did actually get to his home. I see. See? Yeah, and that son of a bitch We had asked to be allowed to be there, but he didn't let us know, and we weren't there when he was there. But we were talking to Mrs. Levine at one time, and that's how we found out that Hilke actually did appear home. And she said, well, Hilke stayed too long. He was there for about half an hour so he didn't know when to leave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1502.27,1577.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1578.03,1578.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Should have left sooner, which was a revelation. Again, I think that Pauline Keele or anybody else, when they saw those two dimensions, the banquet and it, would know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1579.16,1594.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1595.14,1595.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Should know from that material, that Levine really didn't care that much about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1595.97,1600.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e God help you. I really do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1600.02,1601.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They really didn't care that much about Hilke. And if we had filmed him at home, we would have found out another dimension of that, which would have shown even for sure. They didn't really care that about him. Hilke is the guy, if Levine is talking as though, he cares so much about him that he would go to him and talk to him. Hilke had to come to his house, and then he was disappointed that he hadn't left sooner. We wanted to film that, you see, but we weren't able to. It wasn't that cooperative with us. If we'd gotten it. It's like that little story that I've told a few times of a story that's written by Thomas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1601.27,1648.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1649.8,1649.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thomas, Thomas Wolfe, the guy that writes about trains, you know, Time in the River, is that the book that he wrote? Thomas Wolff, while he wrote, he can't go home again. He's from North Carolina, isn't he? South Carolina. I don't know where he's from. When he tells the story, there's a short story that he's written of a railway... Conduct, not a conductor, but an engineer. He conducts the locomotive ride, 50-mile journey every day that he makes on this train back and forth for 40 years or so. And then each time he goes by a number of cottages, goes by this cottage and two women always wave to him and he waves back to them. All those 40 years he says, Someday I'm going to see those people. And it's like Levine. Levine says, someday I'm gonna see Hilke. And well, the story is, in the short story, it's the day of his retirement. He says, I'm going to go see those people. He goes down, he knocks on the door. The two women come to the door and there's that same instantaneous familiarity and recognition. And beyond that, there's nothing they can say to one another. And he's kind of flabbergasted, and he walks away. Because for that kind of thing, that's the kind of recognition and friendship that's capable, that these people are capable of, that the relationship has only been on that hand-waving basis. And it's marvelous. They don't go beyond that. Levine can't go beyond that with Hilke or anybody else. He's not that interested. It would have been marvelous if we could have gotten that. I think that there was enough of that that we got in the film so that you and everybody, Pauline, should know too. And should Marvel, having seen that in a film. It's trivia. I mean, that's all Thomas Wolfe is reporting. It's trivial. 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There was another criticism that's been leveled at Seema, Barry Tay, or at least your work as well as Leacock's, That Although this may report on the event, and we may see it happening, and although, even though there are choices and we don't necessarily, I mean, there's plenty of room for editorializing and choosing and everything, we are not being allowed to participate. We are, we are, always... The viewer is not participating, he's not participating in an emotion, he is observing constantly and that sometimes erratic movements of the camera, trying to get in position and so forth, which in a way indicate a certain authenticity about what's going on, also tend to to disturb the mood of the scene that's taking place. How would you... I mean, I don't ask you to rebut it, just comment on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1797.88,1894.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, as far as the jar of the camera.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1895.16,1898.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no general art being used in the camera movements per se, such as Mizoguchi might use a camera slowly to give an elegance to his film, things of this nature. The mood and tone is not being made by the use and movement of the camera. Even to the contrary, it contradicts some of the things that are going on before the camera. I don't think that kind of contradiction is occurring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1900.639,1931.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The kind of filming that we're doing, I think that the camera work is perfect enough so that it doesn't distract from what's going on. I think some of Ricky's and Penny's films, it certainly does that. And the chair, and Jane, and others that I've seen, it does that, didn't do that in primary, I don't think. Did you feel it then? I didn't see it in primary. You haven't seen it? Oh no, I see it today. I don't think, so I think if one sees our film, showman too, I've seen showman","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1932.96,1966.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to see Showman once, as you know, I like it very much and want to take a look at it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1967.91,1972.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to take another look at it. I'd love to take a look at...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1971.77,1975.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to be able to look at it with you commenting on it along the side as possible, you know, something like that, so we can kind of have a dialog going about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1974.12,1981.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1981.24,1981.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I want to see that too, but the point is, is this camera actually, at the same time it's recording, cutting off the spectator from what it's reporting? Is it preventing us from an artistic move?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=1982.27,2000.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I couldn't agree more. If the camera work is that unsteady, and if you're zooming in and out and if it's distracting, I couldn, I, total agreement that it's bad, and I don't think our films are that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2000.87,2020.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You feel that there is a definite way of using the camera to convey the mood of the scene then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2020.29,2027.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, I think that we're getting more out of the scene this way, and if our camera were bouncing all over the place, if it weren't steady, that criticism, you know, is a valid one. It isn't, though. I think our films are not that way. I don't think it's unsteady.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2027.78,2046.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you try to use the camera in a way to convey mood, for instance, by movement, slow movements or suddenly a rapid one in a scene that has a rapidity?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2050.04,2060.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that, I mean, we owe this to the audience, and I think every photographer working in a purely documentary way, by which I mean that he's more concerned. His outlook, whereas he's projecting his own personality, his outlook is like Hemingway, but really though, my... My obligation is to, is to the subject matter, to conveying the atmosphere. My obligation to tell really what happened when one is doing something in the Spanish civil war. Rather than though conveying my own propaganda, feeling about it. In the long run, Hemingway, although he was criticized... Pauline Kiel probably would have been the first in those days to criticize Hemingway for being so aloof as he was criticized for that. In the long run now, she's probably, I don't know, she may be a Hemingwa family member, she probably may not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2063.29,2127.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think she like, well she doesn't like old men in the sea, but I don' know what it is. But the other ones. Now look, it's photographed like that. The girl holding the kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2128.2,2139.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, okay, the thing that makes that photograph is that he's caught this, well, one of the things, he's got this bottle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2139.22,2145.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This is Bruce Alexander. Bruce Davidson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2145.25,2147.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is to cut the sparkle of those lights, which are the sparkle in your eyes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2149.72,2154.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Hmm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2154.78,2154.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e and vice versa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2155.42,2156.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There's an extreme poetic use of the image here, which comes from the artist's scene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2158.83,2166.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You see those lights in there. I think that's what does it to me. It's that it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2167.49,2170.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It gives it a kind of a halo of youth and something a little idealistic there at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2170.97,2180.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Those little lights in there, to me, which brings you again to her eyes, you know that there's great life in that head of hers. Confused by youth and probably misdirected, but it's there. And it's this juxtaposition. Every photograph that's almost of his, the great ones, there's a juxta position of one thing with another. And, it's great. This, I think, is what people like her, maybe, and others who criticize the documentary approach, they don't realize that the documentary photographer is alert to these things, and he is putting these things in his photograph. It's this confusion that they have in their minds as to what an artist should do, as to why he is put of himself into the thing. And they kind of assume that a documentary photographer is doing nothing of that sort because they're only recording things. He isn't only recording. Bruce, in all of his photographs, is not just a recording mechanism. He is finding outside of himself something which nobody else, as a recording person, would find. And it's a peculiar thing. That people like Kiel probably don't recognize that one can be a documentary guy, apparently just recording. But projecting something of himself onto the thing and still remaining absolutely, practically absolutely true to the concept that it's what is outside of himself that he can still remain absolutely truthful to by seeing it as a living human being with faults and with or as I'm saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2181.14,2306.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you feel that you get complete objectivity, or do you feel, and this may even be, this is not a criticism, do you even feel that it is a subjective view of your films, that's what gives them? You don't pretend to present reality per se.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2306.51,2322.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely not. There would be deadness of some sort to do that. We're filming human beings all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2323.58,2333.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Your basic material is that which is in the world around you, but you feel that you are reorganizing it according to a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2335.01,2345.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Somehow remaining faithful and being faithful to what is really there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2346.13,2354.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e At least your interpretation of what is there. Because obviously if you're choosing, see this is a choice, I mean we're seeing something here in this film here of the mannequin and the store dummy where the two girls seem to be behind the window and the reflection in the glass, from the angle that Davidson has caught it, I mean he's making a statement about that. He's not just showing us the reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2356.61,2383.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the peculiar thing is that, in answer to the question you was asking me before, another peculiar thing is that this kind of photography, to me, rather than, you suggested that maybe with this kind of photography that more is put in the hands of the person who is making it than the observer. To me, this puts much more of a, of a burden, if you want to use that word, well, on the viewer. Responsibility. Responsibility on the view. Because to most people, without the eye for it, this photograph, well, you know, what is it? It's just another photograph. But if you have it in you, you... This can do much more for you than if somebody had taken this kind of subject and set it up and was more artistic about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2384.38,2450.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's go back to the grill with the headlights around. I think that's very important as an observation. What we were seeing here was obviously in reality, although the out of focus stuff in the background was not. This is strict creation on the part of the... The lens and such, yeah. Now, you would say that... That the cameraman then, here, the artist, was using the material which existed in life in front of him to make it in such a way that it revealed itself in a certain comment that was his, in a way. That was his. His own comment about that situation. But his material, which he reorganized, actually, or organized, out of reality without a purpose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2450.79,2508.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the funny thing is that because that's the way one can work, that you're not at odds with the way God or nature puts things. Not at odds. It's not a fight against it, but it's a harmony between you and the world around you when you create a photograph like this. And there's no... I'm not at odd when I'm working with Godard. Mm-hmm. Just exactly the... I'm his... I am his... As free and as proud of what I'm doing as Bruce can be free and proud and say this is mine when he takes this photograph. But by that very token and by the fact that he's working in this documentary method, he's giving full credit to her and to the lights and everything else. But too many artists who would have to make this kind of photograph this way, Bruce's way, too many of them would say, but Jesus Christ, you know, I can't do any, I have no freedom to do anything, I'm not being an artist. And so they're at odds with the subject matter because they are saying, I've gotta put something, I've got to put something in there that is mine. And to me, when they do that, it's too foreign to the subject matter, and it's never going to be authentic, which is a word that we respect so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2509.02,2603.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, why do you feel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2605.23,2607.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sort of in agreement, why do you feel that authenticity adds to the creative, why do you think that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2609.77,2619.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And we don't have to pay it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2620.31,2620.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Being authentic gives it an added plus, or gives it a, why do you feel, what is it that makes that authentic, the fact that it's authentic gives a greater esthetic quality than if it had been set up, in a way. Thank you. He could have had her pose there. I mean, it could have cast a girl, you know, and have set this up like you would in a fashion shot. But there is a ring of truth about this, no, why? I don't want to put you on the spot, I'm just, you now, I am curious myself. For me, the fact that he has found harmony in what was... Just a disorganized nature about us, the fact he has found harmony, for me, gives it a greater beauty. The fact that someone can find almost a harmony, a resemblance to a painting or something like that, confers an added poetic quality to the reality for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2622.05,2701.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's the kind of, maybe it's the enjoyment that I get out of knowing that when Moulton... See, I know that this guy works the way Mozart did, in that I know that every single note of Mozart's, unless he were asleep when he wrote it, which wasn't true. Every single note, it always rings true. All of his music, there's a Mozart thing in all of his stuff, where you know that it's true, and it's just as true when he wrote his first one. I think he was about six years old when he That was for a symphony, you know that? Six years old when he wrote his first symphony. And I'm sure that that first symphony of his was true, clean, and correct, although much more simple and childlike, as the last one that he wrote. And I know that the first photograph that this guy took. It was the same, the same way. That doesn't answer your question, but I just...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2703.69,2771.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, let me ask you that, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2777.32,2779.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's say that somebody said to me, but look, I can tell you the truth, Bruce really didn't take this photograph. Maybe someone could have, and as a matter of fact, this girl did pose for it, and the lights were set up exactly this way. So I have to believe them, let's say, but I know damn well that couldn't be true. But even if that were done for this photograph, that one couldn't make 400 photographs that way and get away with it. Just the way someone could tell me that there is somebody that wrote the music that never heard any Mozart, never knew the man or anything. And it sounded just like Mozart. I think he could do it. I don't think he can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2785.57,2837.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To keep it up but now what would be your reaction would you think that would invalidate the photo if this was set up if you found out that Linda this had been set up like this that she was a friend of his so he says stand there and yeah and I mean that could very easily happen yes kind of photo yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2838.56,2856.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I have a suspicion that somehow... There would be a detail or so that would belie that attempt, you know, and show it to be phony. But let's say that it wasn't the case. All I can answer to it is that it's sort of a fluke, in the long run. And you certainly, I doubt very much that you, you certainly couldn't get away with it, making a movie, an apple movie in Levine, where you're faking it all the way through. Because I need to have to fake every single...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2857.43,2892.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But the beauty of the story is still there. I mean, he saw these things, and if he reorganized it and asked it to stand there, I mean I think this would have been very possible. He may have stopped here and said, stand up or please. But he saw something. But his material here just becomes a natural object. I would also say this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2893.2,2917.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would also say this though, that if anybody could have done, imagined this, and ended up this as a creation of his own, then I don't think he could do it for 400 pictures like this, which are all different kind of things. If he could, I can't imagine that to be, if he could then I have to change a lot of my thinking. And if you could do it as, then I would say. But Jesus, you know, it would take a lifetime, more than it would take 500 people trying, working together night and day to create these situations as they really happen in life and make them come off as well. I think, I think as a matter of manpower would be a tremendously bigger task. So, and this is, to me is, besides being more, well, probably more authentic, probably more authentic. I'd think that as a practical thing would be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2916.96,2968.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What about that photo of the old lady's playing of the naboulette, rolling the bowling balls? This strikes me as a tremendous piece of work. The composition, it has a plastic quality to it. It's compositional. He has found the moment in all of this unorganized nature that somehow gives it harmony. Organizes into a kind of And the fact that he chose to photograph this in long shot indicates, and he waited for this moment where things organized. This strikes me as being a piece of creation on a high artistic level, seeing things in reality, impossible harm. Now, would you say that you look for these kind of... Uh, of creative moments, uh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=2969.72,3030.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Those moments where things are organized. Yeah. When you see the thing in Yankee, some of the things in Yankees, you know. Have you seen that film? No. Well, when you see that, particularly where the family is moving from the old house to the new, you'll see photography of that kind. I would say that since that film, I have sort of taken steps backwards from that, because it's been much more difficult for me to film with that kind of photographic quality. Microphone has to be very close to people. It's harder to take, at any instance, it's harder take a wide, wide, shot, which are most revealing and best shots frequently. I hope as we make technological improvements that we're going to be able to get into more of this kind of photography in our filming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3031.1,3091.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think that then you would move less with the camera?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3093.3,3095.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3096.04,3096.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, damn it, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3097.08,3097.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Move more, maybe. More mobility, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3098.03,3103.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What would you think of a scene that takes place where you decided to sit and take it all from one angle at one, let's say in long shot? There would be scenes which would...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3108.71,3122.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There would be scenes which would... I know exactly what I'm thinking. I can tell you one thing. I can give you an experience that I had. I knew a girl, well, a girl that I loved very much. I hadn't seen her for five years. In the meantime, she'd gotten married, she had two children, and I didn't know that I was ever going to see her again. But I came to Paris and where she was living, just where she was there, I didn' know. I called the parents, they told me she was married, she had two children. She lived in Paris, the address. I went to the home, she wasn't there. I spoke to the husband, he said that she was at a museum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3121.45,3162.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3162.39,3162.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, all this stuff so far is stuff that I could have filmed and would have, but there's one thing, one scene I want to tell you about, which was particularly pert to this, and that is this, that he said that she was at a museum. I went to the museum, okay, here I would have been filming, I walked in, the museum was all on one floor, it was all one big, big room. She wasn't there, but I thought that she would be arriving any moment. I sat down. There's only one doorway into the museum. I sat down at the far end, I could see everybody walking around, conversing, talking, and she would come in through that other doorway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3163.11,3204.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You can write it in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3205.07,3205.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I sat and I saw, I could see all of this at a wide angle, you see. Every time that door opened, you'd see, I had the charge. I could zoom into the door.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3205.64,3215.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not too much editing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3216.07,3216.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would do that sometimes, I'm sure, you know. Other times I would just keep the camera rolling at a wide angle. You'd see a little girl come in, and an old man would come in. Each time I was expecting there would be this particular girl.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3217.69,3232.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're putting an end to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3232.4,3233.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Or I could come and walk in very closely and take a very close-up shot. There are all kinds of choices, but most of it I would prefer to shoot at a very wide angle. With the equipment that you had at the time. I have the advantage of seeing all these people. Conversing to a little group here and there in that door. I have a presence, always that door, bringing in another presence who might be this girl or might not be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3233.52,3268.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So this indicates a choice of angle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3271.47,3276.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Also, I think that for me personally something very important going on, I was very interested in it. Taking those two things from very important, going on personally interested in something I should film. And, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3278.84,3298.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And you would say your relation to the scene never corresponded to a wide angle in a sense. This would be a choice that you would make. Could you trace what in your background made you become so involved with the need to draw things out of reality, out of nature around you? Reality, I've been told, is a very bad term, but we're talking about the world around us. And to feel that they are, that they do belong to that world and they're not something that are completely created even though they might achieve a truth. What do you feel in your background that made you feel this need? Because I noticed almost when we were talking about your work with Goudar, You felt that the authenticity of the scene, uh, far surpassed, uh... The problem of missing some of the details which may have been communicated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3303.48,3377.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, my background has always been scientific, primarily scientific more than artistic. I understand you had done some psychology. Yeah, I taught psychology at Boston University, and I was probably going to spend my whole life doing research, which scientific method and all that was my main interest. Apart from that, I just feel more comfortable as an acute observer than as somebody who is... I admire people who have a humility, a humble attitude to the subtle matter, to the world around them. That is what people of science have, the ones most faithful to it. They know that the bit of knowledge that they contribute is... It's very small, very small compared to what has been done and what will be done and to what. I missed a fail once, that uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3385.02,3486.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Your scientific background has made you want to probe into the world around you, in that Yeah, that's right. And so, this is an extension of that probing. The thing that's interested me, I mean, because I've noticed it in myself, this kind of desire to know that this is, that even though you're making artistic effects out of your material. I always like to have the feeling that I'm revealing something about something that exists outside of myself. It's just a humble attitude. I mean, not only is it a truth about mankind that I've created from a whole cult, but also rather that something that's there and exists independent of it, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3489.39,3540.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Also you can rely on another thing too. If you take this humble attitude, and you're really, it's something outside of you that you're dealing with, the chances are that in the long run it really gets back to you and is more of a, it satisfies a selfish need too. Uh, namely that the thing's gonna be more permanent, if it's something outside of you. 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Because the documents are more permanent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3567.73,3572.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, because it depends in the final analysis on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3572.69,3576.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They'll send a man over to disconnect that, then he'll take it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3577.43,3579.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e On something that something outside of you And, uh... I mean, I know damn well that the primary of the film that we're in, that's going to be 200 years from now. People will see it 100 years from then. That, I mean nobody so far has been five years already. In spite of the political events that have occurred and what has been uncovered about Kennedy and Humphrey in these last five years, it hasn't made the film in the slightest bit invalid. All the people are more keen to see it and see it as a truthful thing. If we had started out from a point of view like what Pauline Kiel would demand, some kind of a point-of-view, I'm almost positive that film would be rubbish today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3579.44,3636.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, I haven't seen it, but I've heard this set. Jacqueline Kennedy is depicted very lovingly, and we sympathize with her. The fact that there is nothing in the film which shows her in a bad mood... Could indicate a choice, you see, whereas if you show the wife or Mrs. Humphrey in more limited circumstances and she doesn't come off as well. Now the point being that perhaps this is a part of choice, even though you have quoted the world around you. So then how can one say this was the way it was, really? Because there's an intervention here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3639.75,3686.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're seeing a film. Okay. Let's see it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3687.48,3689.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3693.19,3693.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The thing is, you know, you're only taking life at a particular time, you are not getting all of it. You're not getting the whole story of any one of the Kennedys and Mr. Humphrey. Sometimes because you're limited in time, that you are showing one person's bad qualities and another person's good qualities, and you see part of the trouble here is that People are so used to a propaganda-type kind of approach to film that they expect, well, you've got to tell what's good about one person and bad about that person too, if you're going to be fair. And so then you've gotta have the good and the bad about Mrs. Kennedy, you got the good and bad. As we ended up in that film, I think, as you say, I mean, you're right. I think that Mrs. Humphrey is not so well. I haven't seen it, but someone told me this. Not so well, and... And, uh... But I think that beyond that, though, if you are truthful...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3697.12,3761.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, sharing on the other one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3763.48,3764.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're not trying to paint anybody in a good or bad light. It's something beyond that. And if you see only Kennedy, only in bad light, the way we are working, since we're not tryin' to show him in a bad light then we know that it just happened that's the way he was at that time, see? But since that, since the, since, He really was that way. And we are trying to understand him and what you see on the screen because we were trying to stand him when we shot in this way that you don't say it, you don´t take it as well, he´s a bad guy. It generates more understanding of the person. See, it´s possible to see a guy who is...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3765.01,3829.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Good night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3830.16,3830.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, like in the chair, you've seen a chair, if a man like that is filmed with understanding, even though you've caught him at the worst moment in his life, you don't care so much about that. What you're keenly interested in is that you have a better understanding of the person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3832.29,3852.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Ta-da.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3853.18,3853.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I know that when you see Mrs. Humphrey in this film, you end up with a better understanding of her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3854.38,3860.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Even though she comes out bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3863.71,3864.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3865.3,3865.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I mean, uh, this is, this, this... At least I ask you this, because it's a problem to me, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3868.96,3873.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So I'm not keenly worried. If I film somebody, you know, after I film, I can say, oh geez, I've got this person at the worst time, you now, and it makes this person look bad. I know very damn well, I know damn well though, that I wasn't trying to make it that way. And what I've gotten is, it's an appropriate sample of that person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3873.75,3902.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I was looking at it as a scientist, how did you feel about it? But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3906.28,3909.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's a funny thing here, see, I think that James Baldwin is absolutely truthful to his subject matter. What? You know what it is, you know what a subject matter is, the Negro problem. I think he's absolutely truthful, but I think any scientist would agree. With him, mostly. But he is truthful in an esthetic way, which is a little different. His truth is a poetic truth, and I think that our truth is not a scientific truth, necessarily, but I think it's a poetic true. Esthetic truth, whatever you want to call it. 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And so if he were, then he'd be untruthful, perhaps. But I mean, as an esthetic truth boy, it is the absolute truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=3978.83,4000.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Ways is because he communicates a particular viewpoint. Oh yeah, it's very right. Yeah, and you feel what he feels about it. Yeah, well I don't know why, I just, you've read him. I've read some of his work and it's called him practically, you know. But this is the absolute esthetic truth, I feel. I mean, it is, it works. Oh, there's no shit there at all. Boy, that's the real thing. I mean I like his work, but actually I do feel that, I mean it comes from a highly conditioned point of view. He's a homosexual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4005.05,4044.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And he's a homosexual and this and the other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4043.07,4046.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, so I think all of these things that are in it inform his subjective viewpoint, which, as I've talked to other Negroes, they don't agree with him, you see. So is that the real truth? No, but for him, I think Baldwin's thinking is very masterfully at communicating the kind of world that he lives in and sees and reacts to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4050.74,4074.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e People can disagree with Davidson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4075.02,4076.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4077.35,4077.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. Well, one wouldn't say the rule is not like that. They're right. Okay, they can disagree on anything. But you have to, in a sense, you have say that he's right. And this is, this is the truth, I mean. I think it, and there's kind of a parallel with Baldwin, I think. You have to say he's rights.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4078.24,4096.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So in your films, or what I was talking about, primary or secondary, you feel that there was a rightness, anyway, a rightfulness of a point of view. So then you come back to, so you're actually, despite the fact that you have a feeling of wanting to document and give it longevity, give your work longevity, it still is only a point view, you see. And one cannot go back and say that's exactly the way it was, Although... These are little bits and pieces of the way it was, you know? Do you feel that a reporter with 50 years' hints could go back and look at your film and make a coherent judgment of the situation? Or only what you felt about it? Is there enough material there, you know? No, no, there's not too much there. There's not so much there, but... Actually, I don't think this is a fault in a way. I think this where the realm of the artist starts entering in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4096.72,4170.229"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think though, I think one, Goddard himself, I think has written somewhere a criticism of primary or Leacock before we even met. I remember him telling me that somewhere in this, he said that Leacok apparently had claimed that the film was such a complete statement of the primary, you see, and he said, he said all that this is is a chapter of, But Doss said all it could be is just a chapter, that you have to see a 26 minute film for the thing to be a complete statement of Kennedy, Humphrey, Piaf, and Prymer, a 26 hour film, instead of 26 minutes. And so my reply to that would be, I would agree with what Doss, I don't know exactly what Leacock said, if he made that kind of a big claim for it, I think he's probably incorrect. I don't know if anybody needs that long a statement, 26 hours, I think that in the 26 minutes, if you compare that to the chapter, to the one chapter in William Alan White's book on the making of the president, that you find that this chapter, which is called primary, the film, and that chapter, the primary campaign in Wisconsin, same subject This tells much more of it all than his written chapter does, and I think it's, because it is movie, and it is documentary film with sound and all that, and the way it was done, I think, it's much more. It's a much better thing to sit to experience the movie than the chapter that was written.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4172.34,4287.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think you can give more confidence to the film than to the chapter? He's a good writer, these three. No, but I mean just inherently in the media you feel it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4287.8,4297.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You see the picture, read the chapter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4302.23,4304.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's good. 15 pages. Very good, yeah. But this imposes a moral responsibility on the camera man or the filmmaker to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4305.13,4319.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e to slant it, to not slant, but you see, I think, I think that, this is interesting, you brought up that point, I think it's, maybe I can explain it a little bit better. Damn trouble with documentary filmmakers and with other filmmakers too, when they're dealing with controversial subjects, and the documentary filmmakers are the ones who do most of the filmings of controversial subjects. Damn trouble is that they try to present both sides. If they do something on Africa, well, we've got to go to 20 countries because the situation in Libya is not the same as in South Africa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4322.07,4356.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Mm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4356.83,4356.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So we've got to do them all. Or if they go to one country, we've gotta film this political party, that, we gotta film this leader, we got to film that. They don't see, they don't see that if they take Mrs. Humphrey at a moment when she is disagreeable, but if they, but if, they cheat her with love in filming, that they will be getting the truth. They'll be getting an unprejudiced truth of this woman if they take her at the time when she looks bad, if that's the only time when they can film her. But if they dilly-dally around trying to create a situation for her where we're going to get her at both times. But they're doing more harm to their film. I'm really going out on the limb now, but I would say that if we would have filmed the primary thing now and had just filmed Mrs. Humphrey when she was making herself look bad, and I knew I didn't have another opportunity to film her again, and now I was filming Mrs. Kennedy. And she was doing something charming and delightful and that's all I knew I could get, I would film it. And there would be no fear in my mind that I was distorting or that I would be prejudicing one person against the other. I know I'm quite sure that I wouldn't be doing that. That's really saying, I think it's pretty strong, isn't it? But yeah, I know it's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4357.81,4472.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it's really out in the land. It probably couldn't be defended logically, but I think I know what you're after. You feel that if you look with love to the human being, expect the person as a human being the moods become incidental to those people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4472.21,4487.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's just like, it's like this film I want to do and this girl is going to have the abortion. Geez, I am taking that girl at the worst most, most private, most embarrassing time in her life. You know? And awkward for her and everything else. But, but I am willing to, I would say too. Probably that in making that film of her, that it would be that time, the way the film would come out, it would, it would um, be the best time to film her, in that um, actually the best, let me see, because of the treatment I will, by which I will film her that uh, people won't like her any less, having selected that time. Because actually, I mean, the way she behaves at that time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4488.35,4547.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, and have a nice day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4552.15,4552.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you know what I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4555.68,4556.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4563.25,4563.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For example, I was talking about group therapy the other day, you know? Well, I go to a group therapy, so I know what goes on there. The first time I walked in, I saw a girl at this group therapy thing who was taking poses, who was drinking bourbon. A group therapy. Who was dressed in phony clothes, who had a lot of makeup on, who was wearing sunglasses, who was trying to act sophisticated. And I thought she was a real jerk. But, I know that if the only filming that I could have done of her would have been at that session and never again, that she would have come off pretty well. Why is that? It's just that I'm trying to find out what it's all about when I'm filming it. And I somehow... That you would be trying to find a human being. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. And that's where we're trying to get and that's gonna come through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4564.5,4641.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Think that even in the moment where she is possibly in the worst condition, most unsympathetic, you could still penetrate through this, there'd be something that would give the light to that. Right, right, right. And of course, that-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327#t=4642.95,4659.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141786/file/262327/transcript/79532/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That would be the picture. Right. And we're not, actually, I don't feel that we're obliged even to do that, even to give the lie to it. Our obligation is to... For authenticity, an obligation. Well, it's to be honest with what we're filming. We're not trying to make, I think it's just as bad, I think what destroys art, destroys documentary or the other kind, is to be fair. Out of a motivation, out of the wrong kind of motivation, we like to be fear to our subject matter, because we're motivated by something different than that says, well, we gotta show both sides. You know what I mean? I mean, fairer than being fair is the kind of like you're holding court, you know? Yeah, we need to decide that this particular action on this girl's part is a good one or a bad one, by our judgment. But what it rests on is this, that we have, rather than this desire to say, well, we got to show the good and the bad. Which leaves it up to us to decide what is good and what is bad. That's where you go astray, you see. Rather than that, we have the faith that by filming it as it happens, you know, without imposing our judgment on what is good and bad, that even if we film something which obviously shows the person to be bad, that beyond that, because we are letting the thing happen from out of itself, other people and ourselves, that it's right there to make the judgment. From what we put on the screen as it happens, you know, that, that we're really not, we don't, we're not. The film that the Yankee know is not, it's misunderstood this way, that's why the state department puts its clamp on it, you know. It's not a film that was designed by us to say, you now, let's wipe out Cuba or let's feed him. It wasn't designed to say that it's good or bad what's going on there. It was designed simply to find out what is going on. And to put it on the screen, you, know, I don't know, we have the faith that the people viewing it can make a judgment about it, and that, and, um, I think this is why, why we don't have too much difficulty in filming people. We don't' have too difficulty in getting people's permissions and such, even though Levine wouldn't give us full entree. My God, what we did get out of him is fantastic. 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