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Smoke filled rooms have been ablaze all week with negotiations, big talk, small talk, and talk talk, full of sound and fury, but signifying no end to the strike and shutdown that has idled thousands in the Pacific Northwest timber industry. So, instead of presenting management's side of the story tonight, we have decided to let all the principals go home, spray their throats, and take some tranquilizers before the hammers and tongs are brought out for the sequel to the story of what makes the head rig run.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=16.52,53.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My guest tonight bears the distinction of being probably the only soul in captivity who first gazed upon the Taj Mahal by flashlight. Moonlight being entirely too prosaic. His globe crowding has included several trips more than several back and forth between here and Washington and between here. And almost everywhere that he could spread his message on behalf of the Lumberman's Economic Survival Committee. Named Lumberman of the Year on this very program Bob Dwyer of Portland's Dwyer Lumber and Plywood Company is always at work. He's always chalking up accomplishments for the industry whose survival indeed owes a lot to him and men like him. Bob Dwier has moved about quite a bit since we used to set chokers together. His latest prerogation taking him was Jerry Pratt all the way to over yet. So without further ado, here, fresh from behind the orange curtain, Bob Dwyer. Bob, what'd you go to Russia for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=76.68,142.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow, it's a long story of why I went to Russia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=143.899,145.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now let's hear the long story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=146.42,147.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I can tell you it's often nice to be back here too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=147.48,150.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Bob, we're glad...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=150.579,151.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To have you. It would be wonderful if all people in the world could have the opportunity that I had to go to Russia or other countries. Then they would know what it felt like to be home. I tell you it's wonderful to be here. I used to write letters home from Russia and Europe to my mother. And I always close them by saying mother I'm certainly glad that you migrated from Ireland to America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=151.38,176.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, Irishmen are pretty predominant in the United States today in one way or another,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=177.56,181.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They are, and they're quite popular today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=182.2,184.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me how did it feel to go to Russia as a lumberman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=184.49,186.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it was a very interesting trip. We were the guests of the Russian government there. And. London on a Tuesday afternoon arriving in London probably about five o'clock in the evening if I recall and by the time I picked up my golf clubs, which is another story and Was taken down to the hotel it was around nine o'clock at night Jerry and I had our dinner Jerry Pratt of the business area of the Oregonian was with us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=189.17,223.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e was one of the clever reporters in the business without any","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=224.4,226.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we had a great time there and he's good company, very good company. We had our dinner, went out for a walk and I know our first introduction to the area was we didn't know where we were. We were walking down some of these streets that weren't too well lighted. I recall there were about seven or eight blocks from the hotel when the lights went out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=227.19,247.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is this when you were in Moscow? 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One was from Izvestia, and the other was from the voice of Moscow, Attach. No, Izvestian. The People's Newspaper. Attach the United Nations came out to Seattle for the World's Fair. They had permission to come to Portland and see a logging camp in the sawmill and I was contacted to ask them to come out and see our operations, which I did. Well, they in turn invited me to come back to Russia to look their industry over and criticize it constructively and take a look at their economy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=274.229,315.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Bob did they ask them to come to your office because it's probably the most progressive there is in the business?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=316.44,320.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know how that came about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=321.63,323.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Wouldn't you say that that was probably the reason, Bob?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=324.289,326.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'd like to think so, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=326.38,328.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I must agree that it probably was. Excuse me for interrupting, Bob.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=327.86,331.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But in any event, through several letters and meetings in Washington DC with their commercial consular, the invitation was extended to us to go to Moscow. Upon our arrival there, we were asked what we wanted to see. And I told them I wanted to their most modern plywood plant, their most hard and soft board plant, their logging camps, and their most modern saw mills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=334.01,360.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's kind of a broad reference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=360.7,361.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Question","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=362.03,362.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I thought you might as well shoot the moon while they were there. 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We're going to have to ask for that one of these.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=379.35,381.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what I'm saying, that's what it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=382.03,382.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This gentleman is, there's four ministers, as I understand it, directly underneath Khrushchev and he was one of them in charge of their lands and their timber resources. He held a conference with the gentleman there in his office and they outlined a trip and asked me if these different sawmills were all right and plants to see and I said as far as I knew, I was in their hands and wherever they wished to take me was fine with Jerry and I. And the following morning, we're picked up at the hotel. And first of all, they wanted to take us to the trade fair. And wow, they have a fantastic trade fair in Moscow. 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Bread-making machines when you go out the back door.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=437.03,469.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are there tractors like ours, Bob?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=469.41,470.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Similar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=471.37,471.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's a station as large, as much power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=472.95,475.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e In dimensions larger than ours, but in weight, they're lighter. I don't think that they will stand the gap like ours will. Principally, that their terrain is very level. The timber is very small. They don't have a tough country to work in. They don' t have a tuff country, and rock is something that they don't have in the inhabited areas of Northwestern Russia. And this is the developed area. And mind you, Lyle, we only spent 11 days there. And all I can bring back is impressions. You can't be an expert on anything in 11 days. 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Thursday, we spent the day in Moscow in their experimental laboratories. They have many laboratories, apparently. The way their system works, that in each industry, they have an experimental development group, scientists. And in Moscow is the head of these scientific groups. So that. Farming or manufacturing of automobiles or logging or sawmilling or any other things. There happened to be a logging end of it. They had this particular manufacturing and experimental firm, you might say, right in Moscow, where they bought in ideas from all their many logging camps. They have machines that would test out these many ideas. They would build the experimental machine, and they took this experimental machine out to a logging camp, which was also an experimental logging camp some 400 miles out of Moscow, and they would test the machine. 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Just a little light, yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=692.81,694.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e About 400 miles by rail to this area and it was as flat as a floor as all a spruce stand standing about 18 inches on the stump and they were about 110 feet to the top, the very tip of the tree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=694.15,707.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Long and thin, eh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=707.11,708.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Very thick, but it would run about 60,000 board feet per acre of scrivener. In this area, they laid it out all on paper ahead of time, like you would like to have a picture show, you know. 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It was very, very simple to do. It was all laid out ahead of time. They weren't bothered about load limits on the roads or so forth. The roads, incidentally, were not up to the standards we have here. 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And they had quite a large sorting ground there, where the logs were bucked to length and sorted. They had women working there, doing the scaling work and watching these different sorts that they had. In general, in Russia, the women... Did not operate any of the machines. The machine work was all done by men and all the hand work was done by the women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=864.01,897.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Gene, you're always talking about women should get more into men's work or men should recognize women's work. You got some questions you'd like to ask Bob about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=897.76,904.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you asked it. I was going to ask and say, while you were there they put a woman into space, I don't know if it was because you were there or for what reason, but I was gonna ask you what part women played in industry as you saw it when you were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=904.02,917.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, in general, Jeanette was it that the women did not operate the machines, but they did all the hand work in the cell mills. I did see them running a few edgers and slab machines. They were used cutting up their slabs into four foot lengths and making box shook out of the slabs. The women running those, there were women were pulling lumber off the green chain, for instance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=919.31,939.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing you were talking about the Forest Service a while ago. I suppose they don't have that sort of problem there, do they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=941.29,946.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's all government. Everything is government. There isn't any such thing as a private ownership.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=947.68,956.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Bob, tell me on, for instance, in the logging camp itself, you've got a, well evidently, a coordinated operation just like we say 25 years ago when you owned a whale of a lot of timber and you went through and you logged it and put it on a train, sent it to the river and sent it to the sawmill and all that sort of thing. Is there, is there as close a supervision on the labor there as we have in this country? Are there people who are? 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Do you attribute this to their belief in the ideology or some type of an incentive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1019.84,1026.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Gee, I don't know what the incentive is. We got $90 a month, $90 to $100 was the average. And it seemed like it cost as much to live there as it does here. Their costs were as high per piece. A pair of shoes, for instance, that were very, very poorly made were $25 and $30. Extremely poorly made shoes. Their clothes were very poorly manufactured. They fully admitted that they had devoted. Much of their, practically all of their energy, and their development work on atomic energy and metallurgy. 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Now, all you do is eat, though. You'd be dressed in rags. For instance, the girls didn't wear girdles over there. That'll give you an idea they didn't have the money for them. They didn't know the niceties that you accept here as lipstick and the rest of it. 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It seemed like our schedule each day was to get us up early in the morning, and we'd go out to one of these different plants or sawmills, plywood plants, go through the plant in the mornings and probably get through sometime around between two and three o'clock in the afternoon. We'd come back then to the office building. 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It was a business lunch and there'd be a 12 to 14 of their local experts, scientists and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1266.09,1273.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Were you allowed to question them and were they answered directly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1273.89,1275.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, we traded questions back and forth and of course we ran into a little slight animosity at first because here we were capitalists coming into a communist country and if you had seen the propaganda that we saw when we got in there against capitalism and against the imperialistic Americans, you can understand how they resented us just a little bit going in there, Lyle. Of course they questioned me and our economy here in America, what we did. And how it compared with their production there. And when you were comparing two types of production, we produce here for a market, and the market is whatever people make it, what people want. Over there, they take a tree and they turn it into a product and they tell the market, which is the people, this is what you're going to use. So you couldn't help but get into philosophies of government and philosophies of life when we're talking about production. Of a pre-enterprise system versus communism. 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Well, this great big, about a 240-pound chauffeur that he had, and I mean he was big and the toughest looking fellow you ever saw in your life. All he did was just look at me, and he didn't like the idea that I was sitting in the boss's seat. After driving around several days, he always heard through the interpreter the conversations that were going on. Of course, we had these discussions as to the merits of the free enterprise system versus the merits. And knowing you, they were good ones. So I can only say that he gradually softened up towards me. I can say that the last day that we were there, he was swinging a golf club out in Red Square. My last recollection of Moscow was going out on the little rubber-tired train from the administration building out to the airport. Here was Big George, around the corner on the fence, where he wasn't allowed standing on top of this fence, waving his break.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1410.8,1507.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You should have brought him home with you. You should've brought him with you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1508.47,1512.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e As they say, people are people, and this dreadful propaganda that's being spread by their own propagandists against capitalism frighten me just a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1512.96,1523.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In general, in your impressions of the plants that you saw in the timber industry, Bob, do you think that Russia is going to be an intense competition with us on export markets in the next 10 years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1525.01,1534.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I do. At the plants that I went to, they were impressing upon me that their production today was some 36 billion feet annually, and that they were planning and their objectives were now to increase that 20% a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1536.67,1551.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh golly, that could be rough Bob Cameron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1552.36,1554.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's tremendous. Now, however, the last day coming back to Moscow, I had a lunch with Mr. Varaksin, who was the equivalent of Orville Freeman, the Secretary of Agriculture here. And I questioned him about this increase of 20 percent per year. And he didn't quite go for the full 20 percent for a year because he said he was a little concerned. About upsetting the economy of Sweden and Finland as their friends, that if they dumped all this lumber on the European market, which they're doing now, it might upset their economy and they were a little concerned about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1554.89,1593.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You think, though, in general, if they want to do, they can come out and compete with us pretty darn directly, Bob, eh? I don't remember the advantages of a state such as they have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1593.98,1603.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think so, eventually they're going to run out of money. They're dumping this on the world market to get dollars back. They're shy of money over there. I don't think the United States could keep on competing forever and giving lumber away or any other commodity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1604.71,1623.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I get your point Bob. Well Bob and Jerry's going to be on with us in a couple of weeks. We thought talking to Jerry today that we might get into discussion about some of the odd things that happened. Why don't you come on back with us at that particular time and we'll not only resume a little discussion about the particular problems you ran into but some of things that Jerry probably saw while you were out digging into the logging camps in the sawmill. I think it's It's kind of reassuring to know that we can hold our heads up no matter where we go on any blooming market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1623.74,1658.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm sure of that. There's no question about it, in my mind, that we can compete and we must compete if we're going to continue on in this world, that we're no longer a provincial nation, we're an international nation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1659.62,1670.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well Bob nice to have you with us and we'll catch this in a couple of weeks. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1671.74,1677.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There is a time to love, said a famous novelist, and a time to die. There is also, according to the timber operators, who are presently hip deep in labor negotiations, a time keep quiet. We do not at this time choose to state our position, the big six vows. When the pot is boiling, the taste is often distorted by the heat. When it cools, perhaps the full flavor will come through. By next week, someone should have determined whether or not the ingredients have properly. So, on behalf of our guest, Bob Dwyer, your reporter, Lyle Baker, and me, Jean King. Thank you for being with us, and a very pleasant good evening. Baker report, not to mention a far out market, the likes of which is rarely seen in these parts. Norm Bjorkland, chief forester for the Industrial Forestry Association, is one person who is praying for rain since every dry day increases the fire hazard in the blow down timber which has not yet been taken out of the woods since the big blow on Columbus Day of last year. And Boyd Clement is all fired up about the new Somerset West development. Clement, project manager for H.R. Wachey and Associates, representative of the Syntex Corporation, has been in the construction and real estate business for the past 15 years. But up to then, he covered quite a bit of real estate in his capacity as an All-American football player. And just to make both of these Oregon State graduates feel right at home, we have a little special traveling music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1679.53,1813.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In the recent industry unpleasantness properly known as a lumber strike much discussion has been bandied about concerning the activities of the so-called big six and the operators. In all fairness it must be admitted that they have approached this strike and shut down forthrightly directly and without profit from production acquired during the strike period in the labor verse management do. The shots have been clean and both parties have waited for the countdown. The case of Georgia Pacific however is not in this category. In the last few days five thousand Georgia Pacific employees in Oregon Washington and northern California have been idle. These five thousand people were removed from payrolls which were bread and butter to the state's economy. They lost the weekly paycheck because Georgia Refused to agree to the difference between a wage rise of twenty two cents an hour and thirty two cents an hour. Everybody lost the community the individual worker and his family. But Georgia Pacific did not lose. Let us look at this inequitable situation. Forty five days ago the price of plywood was sixty dollars per thousand. Today it is somewhere between 80 and 85. The Georgia Pacific Corporation according to the most reliable available figures has a monthly production in the 900 million foot bracket. The shutdown of other companies has caused a twenty dollar increase in price and the Georgia Pacific Corporation has made approximately a million eight hundred thousand dollars in excess shut down induced profits during the last 30 days. Translated into simple figures. That's a profit of approximately three hundred and sixty dollars per employee that is now out of work. This figure you understand is beyond their ordinary profits. Now Georgia Pacific has indicated that they would agree to a wage increase of twenty two cents per hour over the next three years. Thus admitting that the corporation can stand this wage raise and still make a profit at sixty dollars for a thousand on plywood. The price of plywood before the strike commence. To reduce these figures to common terms if GP this week had agreed to the union's 32 cent figure it would have cost the corporation roughly one hundred and ninety two dollars per employee per year. And as you can readily see with the three hundred and sixty dollar extra profit they have made through the last shutdown month they would have been ahead one hundred and sixty eight dollars for each employee on their payroll with the ten Fence Addition. This strike therefore is costing the Georgia Pacific Corporation nothing. I don't want to take sides. The only point the only conclusion I can arrive at however is this. This strike is costing the workers the merchants the people of these idle communities. The market rise of the last 30 days has made literally tens of million dollars for all companies that were operating. The solution is anybody's guess. But somewhere along the line the true story of the wins and who loses in a strike should be brought home. We have invited discussion from the Georgia Pacific Corporation. This reporter invited a GP official of their own selection to be on this program tonight and to explain his company's position. They refused with the excuse that quote they had nothing to say and felt that it was better that nothing be said at this time,\" end quote. We disagree. We feel that Georgia Pacific owes an answer to this lumber community. We further feel that the newspaper should get the lead out of their line of types and demand some answers. Confusion reigns in the column for the papers are committing the cardinal journalistic sin of omission of facts. Now just a moment about markets. Never in the history of this industry have the operators been in such an enviable price position. The plywood index is at eighty five dollars or a forty three percent increase over the price of eight weeks ago. While lumber has not followed plywood in the percentage of increase the market is firm and up and with the threat of a strike hovering over the timber operators console over the next week or two we predict that lumber has not seen its ceiling cooperative mills and independent operators in both lumber and plywood. Soon may not be able to wade through the goodies in the county. Now here's Norm Bjorklin chief forster for the industrial forestry association with some more potential hot news the threat of forest fires in the unmanned western woods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1835.78,2140.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there certainly is a threat. And I think probably the worst threat that we have had in this region since any of the years of the Tillamook fires, which I think a lot of us remember and respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2141.45,2153.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I can certainly respect that I fought it for about three weeks on the front over near Oregon American, Norm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2154.23,2159.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e You know well know what we are potentially up against then I do courses has arisen from this tremendous amount of blowdown occurred last October 12th and subsequently because as you know we had a storm in March that blew down considerable additional timber in southwestern Oregon. So we have a tremendous volume. In fact as you may know the governors of the states of Oregon Washington recently held a conference on this matter of. Trying to protect our forests this year. And at this conference, they brought out the fact that we have some revised statistics on the amount that blew down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2159.93,2197.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What are these statistics?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2197.95,2198.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e the I might go back a little bit right after the blowdown and people got to looking to try to determine what had blown down and believe me many of the private operators as well as the public agencies got out within a day to start an aerial survey. They figured that the total in western Oregon Washington is probably about five billion board feet right after this. However because this was a quickie type survey a more detailed survey was made and the results of that which came out, oh, about three months ago, showed 11.2 billion board feet. However, on the basis of the actual salvage that's starting to come out in some of these areas, checked against what they thought was in there, it's now between 16 and 18 billion board feet of timber down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2200.87,2247.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that is that in that's in Oregon and Washington.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2248.1,2250.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That's in western Oregon and Washington primarily. There's some also, of course, over in south central Oregon and the Klamath area over in the Lake Counties in the Deschutes area. Well that's not any more than we lost in the Tillamook fire, is it not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2250.31,2265.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Didn't we lose somewhere around 16 billion feet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2265.8,2267.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, no, I, I'm not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2268.2,2270.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We lose that much effort. We didn't actually","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2270.6,2272.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e We didn't actually lose that much, of course, I don't think it was in the Tillamook fire, but this was just about, it's certainly the equivalent of another Tillamoke fire in volume. It's well over a year's production, and of course the other bad feature is that it's concentrated in certain areas, it isn't scattered out so like a regular normal logging sequence would be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2271.91,2294.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, you can't go in and take it out of a 40 or so forth. It might be spread over a little bit in one part of a batch of timber, and then you might have to go a mile and find another batch. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2295.13,2305.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. It's very very erratic patches here and there and sometimes as much as 200 acres in a block completely blown down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2304.75,2312.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that like this picture that you have?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2312.99,2314.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe we can show it here. I think we can see here on this picture a typical area. This happens to be over in the Oregon coast. You can see from the man here that timber is very tall. And this is medium sized timber. It happens to Western Hemlock. And this shows an area that all the debris, you might say, runs up to 30 feet deep. And I might point out one reason that we're so interested in this. You'll see in certain areas in here, the needles. Now, and the branches on the trees. Now, this material just now is starting to become what we call red slash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2314.44,2357.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that's when those needles start to turn hot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2357.91,2359.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e When the needles in the warm weather, and I think we're going to have some, we've been very fortunate so far, but it's changing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2359.61,2366.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Norm, has any of this been salvaged?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2368.42,2370.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, there's actually, actually the salvage started within the day after the blowdown occurred last October 12th and there has been a large amount taken out of it, but there's still a lot of, of the salvaged left in the woods and I might say that there's one other item. This is what made this storm different, I think, than any other storm we've had, at least as I can recall. And, uh... People that have been out here for 40 and 50 years say that they don't recall one quite like it. One is that a tremendous amount of limbs blew off the trees. It didn't blow down. In some places, this limb debris piled up three and four and five and six feet deep on the edges and under the stands. And of course, all of this is going to become red this summer in a tinder box.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2371.15,2419.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's literally explosive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2419.67,2420.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It certainly is and this is an area in addition to the trees that came down and besides because the storm not Occurring late in the winter as most of ours have done, but it was in October when we had not had our fall Or winter range yet the ground was dry and because of this many many trees twisted off or broke off Which means is a lot of material Broken that will have to be left in the woods because it can't be salvaged and a fact lot of snag standing then don't you? You have a lot of Snags and they have estimated well more than 20 percent probably the volume that blew down will not be salvageable because of breakage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2420.83,2464.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Norm, how fast a rate are they taking this out now? Let's say at the rate that they're moving in and doing it now, when will this be cleaned up? A year, two years from now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2465.06,2473.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e You might say that they're trying to get it all out by June, at the end of June 1964. But with conditions in the labor field and everything else the way they are, it's getting to look more and more that there's going to be considerable volume held after that date.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2474.72,2492.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are the private operators doing a better job than the forest service or are they doing well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2493.06,2496.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I would say from the standpoint of the private owners that I know about, the industrial tree farms, non-industrial tree farmers, and I'll comment on these a little separately, first the industrial owners start in right after and they have the advantage they did not have to go out and set up a timber sale, such as our public agencies would do. They could get right in and get their operation in. And some of those that had relatively small damage have all the salvage material out. The others are working at it, and I know that the bulk of the ones I have talked to figured that by the end of 1963, their salvage would be out at least that portion that they could take out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2498.05,2536.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And in other words, the big major operators are going in this year and removing the fire hazard so they won't have it next year, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2536.5,2542.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e There are a few cases I would say maybe some of the industrial owners in southwest Washington will have trouble because there is tremendous amounts blown down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2542.74,2550.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's rough cut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2550.62,2551.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's rough country and with all of that material and you might say timber to go on the market at one time it's going to be difficult to market all in one year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2551.35,2560.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are they finding a ready market for their lobs, Norm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2560.78,2563.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I think most for the most part there is a good market for the logs but by the time August rolls around we'll have to take another look at this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2563.58,2571.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Suppose perhaps the log market will go down there in the fall. Well, there are too many logs going to come on the market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2572.319,2578.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e There's going to be a great number of additional logs come on in the next month, and I don't see how this can help but affect the log market and the price for logs unless we have a continuation of the current raise in market prices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2578.48,2596.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know something that's rather interesting to me. We've got quite a few shutdowns and strikes as we've talked about on this program. And yet the log prices remain fairly steady. Perhaps is this strike in some way might have an advantage because if the firms are out come back on in a couple of months or a month from now and there's additional logs and everybody will be happy on the log market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2597.28,2617.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think that there are a lot of owners that want to have some more markets for the logs. One thing that we have mentioned about this slash that's left. I would like to point out that there has been some constructive work done to supplement our normal protection. And one of them, a group of industrial owners, the Keep Washington Green Association, the State Division of Natural Resources, and I think the Washington Forest Protective Association in southwest Washington have leased or rented for the whole summer a PBY airplane. That holds a thousand gallons of water to have it stationed, I think, in Kelso to have the ready to combat any fire that does occur. That's something that's new, isn't it? It's very new. In addition, I think one thing that's kind of interesting is that, of course, to be effective this plane has to be able to refill fast and they have a snorkel attachment on it where they can skim over lakes and they've made arrangements to use some of the reservoirs, for instance, on the Lewis River where they can just skim down over the water or taxi on it. And instead of taking 15 minutes to fill, it takes a few seconds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2617.88,2687.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I wish we'd have had...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2688.029,2688.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e 1932 on the Tellamook fire. I think it it's something that we may look at in the future but I think its certainly something that shows that the the owners Timberland owners are trying to do their best to keep this fire potential from really exploding on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2689.84,2705.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know with all the difficulties that the timber businesses had and let's say their present difficulties with labor disputes and so forth. I think it's rather remarkable they've gone ahead with what they have to work with and have made let's say these additional means of protection available for any landowner. 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It only takes about three or four days of dry weather and we're back to a real bad situation and because of this we're gonna have to close down some of the areas and even general public is going to have to stay out. And I think we're going to need their cooperation to protect the recreation, our future recreation, to protect jobs and protect our timber resource.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2727.59,2764.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Norm, I thank you very much for being with us. I'm sure the people of Oregon and Washington realize that the future of the forest is a lot more important than perhaps a fishing trip today, the hazard we have. And I think they'll stay with us And now here's a word from Smokey Bear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2765.79,2781.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Be careful. Follow my rules. Hold matches till cold, then break in two. Crush out smokes. Kill the red really dead. Drown your campfires, and then stir, and drown them again. Only you can prevent forest fires.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2821.67,2842.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Here's the watch bird who watches watching Somerset West project manager Boyd Clement. Boyd that's quite a deal you got going out there I understand from Bob Hazen who was on our program about oh four or five months ago and started the discussion of it. What's going on since then and where are you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2845.56,2862.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e We're pretty well along, Lyle. Our golf course is about 60% complete today, this week, I should say. 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You're not going to sell a pig in the poke. You got to let them see what they've got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2893.77,2897.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e We want the shelves fully stocked before we open the door.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2897.32,2899.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's good merchandise","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2899.88,2900.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I was just going to say they got the most important thing done first, though, the golf court.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2902.98,2906.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, naturally, naturally. Definitely not a golf. Well, now, there are a lot of fellas who are on the project that like to play golf, and you like to, let's say, go out and inspect the work project and then play a few holes of golf.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2907.29,2916.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we're having no trouble with incentive on finishing of the golf course, I can tell you that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2916.89,2921.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Boyd tell us what you're going to do and how many houses what kind of houses are going to be how big the project is going to be this year and what your future plans are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2922.21,2930.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course, our first year or two on a project of this size, Lyle, are very, very modest. We hope to complete and market approximately 200 units or 200 homes between now and next summer. And these will be in three price ranges, in the old 15 to 20 and in the 20 to 30 in the over $30,000 price range. We feel that about two years from now, the inertia, the development pattern will be... 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I think 15 years would be a little bit more accurate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2986.74,2993.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you do as a project manager. That sounds like an awful impressive title but how did you get let's say from football playing the managing project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=2994.21,3001.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well sometimes I think I spent one too many years back on the line. 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And at this point, you've got the problem of keeping the land under control, keeping it leased, keeping it farmed. We've got units to rent. You get into a property management situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3011.29,3030.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3031.2,3031.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e And of course right prior to the start of construction there was the details of planning, the arterial routes, the location size and shape of the different neighborhoods, the thought process design, which of course all of these things are an expression of opinion from a number of people, but nevertheless everyone's in on it, and then the actual construction itself, which you want to keep an eye on and keep in mind. Pushing along as it were and then as we finish that and get into our finished product then we'll get into the marketing aspect of the thing and of course all through this whole process we have the normal public relations thing that I think is pretty typical of any type of industry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3031.74,3084.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Talking about public relations but it always interests me when somebody is wise in their public relations and I think about the wisest thing that your company could do is to put a project manager in charge of this thing. It's one of Oregon's favorite all American football players. Now to me sometimes I let's say Texans I don't think they're as smart as our goings but in this case I think this was a pretty smart move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3084.81,3106.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. Dick Lottie is a pretty sharp fellow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3107.82,3110.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is he a Texan himself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3110.38,3111.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e No sir, he's a wife and boy. He is? In Seattle? Yeah, native of Seattle, yes sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3111.81,3116.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You've been quite a project up there in Seattle under his supervision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3116.61,3119.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Dick has a sizable project in Seattle, in fact he has three, one going now and one starting before too long and another for the future. He has about 10,000 acres.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3120.42,3137.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One of these is called Somerset isn't it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3137.46,3139.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes there is a Somerset in Seattle. It is a beautiful piece of new property east of Lake Washington that looks right down on the lake and it's just a tremendous piece of property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3139.34,3149.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I understand in your planning for the development that you let's say you're attempting or you're trying to bury all of the telephone lines and so forth in order to increase the beauty of the project itself. I think this is a wonderful approach to it and something which we probably should have done in the city of Portland a lot of years ago. How successful are you. Let's say coming along with this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3149.77,3175.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Very well we've had tremendous cooperation with the local utility people and the PGE and also with the resting house people just tremendous assistance in this and it just points out another thing that we're trying to do any project of this size and scope. We're trying to create an environment that takes advantage of all of the good things we normally think of. Place to live, convenience, good schools, recreation, safe and easy access to and from work. And we're also trying to overcome some of the obvious, undesirable aspects that have been associated with residential units in the past. We think this is very important. This is not a tremendously revolutionary thing. It's really an attempt. Use the good and eliminate the bad. And we're very open-minded. We want to take advantage of the new things that we know are going to be forthcoming in the housing market in the years to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3175.92,3247.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Boy does a lot of them of course. I'm interested. Are you going to save the trees that are on the property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3248.16,3251.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e We have a standing rule out there among the catskin of any man who knocks a tree down that isn't supposed to come down is automatically down the road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3252.38,3264.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're fired right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3264.26,3265.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you had the f-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3266.45,3266.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you had to fire very many of them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3266.31,3267.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e No, as a matter of fact, we have Henry Cookenberg, our major contractor out there, and he has a very fine crew of people, and they are very appreciative of what we're trying to do, and we haven't had any trouble at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3267.99,3285.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Point recently. Now as I understand you've been with Watchie for a couple of years. I'm interested in what happened when you left Oregon State. Did you go right into the construction business with your background and training and engineering in Oregon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3286.49,3299.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e I started out in there. I had some engineering at Oregon State, Lyle, and when I got out of school I, like a lot of the fellas, kind of felt my way around until, in the construction business, until I settled on real estate, started out on appraising and then into marketing and got into more refined construction, this sort of thing, and it just took a natural course, you might say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3300.22,3327.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well it's a fine business. Let's say that Portland in the next 15 years is going to have a tremendous lot of development. There's no question that we've lagged behind the rest of the coast for many years. I think that the things that have been outlined to me with what Hazen told me a few months ago, what you've outlined to me today, this is the way that any let's say housing project, and this is much more than a housing project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3328.41,3351.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think so. I think that there are many more land uses involved in this than the many residential housing. Our project in size alone is not unique in the United States. There are many, many projects, if you want to call it that, residential bedroom communities in the East and the South, much larger. But there are very few that have the complexity of land uses. That we have reserved for future use.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3351.71,3384.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Boy, this is a wonderful thing that I think you're doing for the city of Portland. I think what we'd better do is to get a camera crew one of these days and go out there and inspect that project of yours with a camera itself. Wonderful. Would you be glad to invite me and we'll do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3385.26,3398.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e If you'll wait about six weeks, you can bring your golf club and we'll take her right around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3398.81,3402.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a deal. Thanks very much for being with us and we'll come out with a camera next time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3402.69,3406.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3407.21,3407.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The strike party is really getting rough, and next week's Lyle Baker report will usher in the house detectives from both labor and management. Also, you'll want to be on hand for a headline sizzling announcement. Another fabulous first from the Lyle-Baker report. Now from our guests, Norm Bjorklund and Boyd Clement, from your reporter Lyle Bakker, and from me, Jean King, a very pleasant good evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=3409.79,3435.67"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/transcript/79297/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/297/original/trint_Coll427_fv004_transcript.vtt?1746644189","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/297/original/trint_Coll427_fv004_transcript.vtt?1746644189"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Coll427_FV004 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coll427_fv004_01 The Lyle Baker Report","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=16.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lyle Baker Report, Lyle Baker, Jean King,  lumber strike, lumberman's Economic survival committee, Bob Dwyer, Dwyer Lumber and Plywood Company, Lumberman of the  Year, Portland, foreign lumber industry, saw mills","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=16.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sound","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=16.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coll427_fv004_02 The Lyle Baker Report","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1759.0,3493.537"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lyle Baker Report, Lyle Baker, Jean King, guests Lloyd Clement and Norm Delkland (sp?), chief forester, lumber strike, Georgia Pacific, lumber surplus, forest protection, housing project, Portland","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1759.0,3493.537"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583/index/51110/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sound","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69173/file/155583#t=1759.0,3493.537"}]}]}]}