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She graduated from high school in 1961 and went to college, majoring in English. After college, she moved to New York City, where she worked for Time magazine as a \"copy girl,\" making $75 a week. She discusses life in New York. She had a boyfriend, who was a hippie. She was attracted to a counterculture life. She moved to San Francisco and northern California, where she met a group of lesbians. She took a carpentry class, and fell in love with it. She moved to Albion, California, and met the women who published Country Women magazine. There, she heard of the WomanShare Collective, near Grants Pass, Oregon and visited the Collective, which she found to be a welcoming place. Lina describes becoming a lesbian separatist, and living at Cabbage Lane, lesbian separatist land. She discusses Ruth and Jean Mountaingrove, Madrone, and Bethroot, all members of the southern Oregon lesbian land community. Lina moved to Eugene, which she refers to as a \"lesbian wonderland.\" She initially lived in a lesbian communal household as well as in cabins on Lorane Highway. Lina describes the culture in Eugene at that time. There were many cooperatives and collectives, including Starflower Natural Foods \u0026amp; Botanicals, and Gertrude's Café, and Amazon Kung Fu. She joined Crescent Construction, an all-lesbian construction company, founded by Rena Klein and Susan Baker, who had studied architecture at the University of Oregon. Lina became romantic partners with Rakar West, and they moved to the Oregon Coast where they started a graphic design company. Lina also worked painting billboards. They moved back to Eugene, continuing their graphic design work. They printed campaign materials to help fight against the anti-gay ballot measures in Oregon. Lina concludes her interview by discussing the nature of the lesbian community in Eugene, and the challenges of aging.\n\nKey terms: Ballot Measure 8; Ballot Measure 9; Communism; Counterculture; Drescher, Marlene; Gay liberation movement; Oregon; Graphic Design; Homosexuality   --   Law and legislation -- Oregon; Lesbian land; Lesbian separatism -- Oregon; Lesbianism; Mountaingrove, Jean; Mountaingrove, Ruth; No on 9; Oregon Coast; Time Magazine."]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Lina Van Brunt (Interviewee)","Judith L. Raiskin (Interviewer)","Linda Long (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://scua.uoregon.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/607047"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Moving Image"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project Collection consists of interviews of 83 people for the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project, conducted by Professor Judith Raiskin and Curator Linda Long at the University of Oregon starting in the summer of 2018."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/029/original/uo-logo-hires.png?1580744881","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/389/small/Coll520_do060.jpg?1637324567","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Coll520_do060.mp4"]},"duration":4665.70667,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/389/small/Coll520_do060.jpg?1637324567","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/130/389/original/Coll520_do060.mp4?1637324567","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4665.70667,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["835_Coll520_do060_aligned [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: We're rolling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=0.0,0.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh, we are?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=0.12,2.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. This interview is part of the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project. The recordings will be made available through the University of Oregon Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives. This is an oral history interview with Lina Van Brunt on August 24, 2018 taking place in the University of Oregon Libraries’ recording studio, in the Center for Media and Educational Technologies. The interviewers are Linda Long, Curator of Manuscripts in the UO Libraries Special Collections and University Archives, and Professor Judith Raiskin of the UO Department of Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3.61,40.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lina, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project, and that you give your permission for the university to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=41.9,51.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=52.1,52.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay, thank you. So let's just start with a basic question. Can you please tell us when and where you were born, and something about your early years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=53.01,60.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I was born in St. Louis, Missouri in 1943, June 21, 1943, because my father was in the Navy and there was a base there. But mostly I grew up in Florida, and most of that was in Tallahassee, which is where my father was born and my sister was born, and almost all of my relatives are. And let's see—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=61.55,93.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: You went to school in Tallahassee?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=94.77,100.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah. I did, from fourth grade on through high school. And then after high school, I went to college at William \u0026 Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. And from there I went to New York City and worked for five years. Decided to become a hippy, full time, and moved to San Francisco where that's easy to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=101.48,129.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=129.25,131.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Seventy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=131.59,132.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Back up a little bit to your high school years, did you know you were a lesbian as a young person?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=132.48,139.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=139.83,140.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: No. And were your high school years pleasant, or difficult? What was the town like for you where you grew up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=140.58,147.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I'd say my high school years were mostly pleasant. I was kind of shy. I had two really good friends and that was about it. I didn't have like a big circle of friends the way some people do in high school. And I lived in a very, very conservative place, but I didn't know that. I mean, it's where I always had been. A lot of overt racism. I grew up in segregated schools. I went only to segregated schools in a segregated town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=148.52,193.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What years were those?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=194.78,196.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: That I was in Tallahassee?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=196.08,198.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: In school. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=198.96,199.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Let me have that sheet again. I got out of high school in '61. So, '57 to '61 was when I was in high school. And before that— I don't know, '55 maybe, '54— '54 to '61 I was in Tallahassee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=202.06,231.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you recall when you were in high school, then that was after Brown v. Board of Education, wasn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=233.93,240.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=242.29,242.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you recall those racial tensions at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=243.0,245.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Only in that— I mean, my parents didn't talk about it. I didn't know people talking about it. Except my cousins who were pretty much the same age I was, they were being harassed and bullied because their father and mother were very much involved in the civil rights movement. They were in marches downtown. Had a lot of death threats and that kind of thing. I wasn't aware of a lot of that. I learned it much later, but I did know that things were happening to my cousin. And I kind of knew why, but not really. I was very ignorant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=246.71,301.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you like to study and why did you choose the college you went to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=301.5,308.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well— Oh, that's a good question. I started out as a math major, because that was kind of where my SAT said I should go. But then, oh dear, I fell in love with this woman who was an English major.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=310.02,331.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I switched my major.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=333.93,335.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: This is college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=336.75,338.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=340.33,340.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And so you were an English major through college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=341.0,343.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=343.35,343.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Okay. And so what did you do after college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=343.46,346.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, at graduation I turned to the woman behind me and said, \"What are you going to do?\" She said, \"I don't know. What are you going to do?\" I said, \"Well, I know there've got to be jobs in New York City. Let's go to New York City,\" and she said, \"Okay.\" So we did. And lived there for five years trying to be a business woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=347.3,377.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What kind of business did you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=378.14,380.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I worked for Time magazine for two or three years, I don't remember how long, as a copy girl. And I would transfer an editor's edits to the writer's copy, or vise versa, and the researcher's edits to the writer to the— you know. Mostly I sat there and tried to look alert until somebody called me to do something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=381.06,422.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you recall how much money you made for that work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=422.6,427.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I made $75 a week. I started work at 6:00 on Wednesday night and ended whenever the magazine went to bed on Saturday night. It was a very short work week, but all— a lot of hours. But it gave me a lot of weekend time, big long weekend. And I got used to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=427.04,451.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What'd you do on your weekend time in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=451.94,456.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh man, there were so many things to do there. And at that time, even on $75 a week, you could do a lot— go to concerts. I went to a lot of concerts. And I went out to Fire Island a few times, and over to Brooklyn, and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=456.89,481.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you identifying as gay yet? Not yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=482.34,485.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: No. No. And I was going to the Fillmore East, a lot, for concerts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=486.25,492.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where did you live?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=493.05,494.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: All over Manhattan and a little bit in Brooklyn Heights. I lived in some real dives, in some really bad places.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=495.86,510.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Are you attracted to the— Van Brunt: But I love New York. I loved it. I loved being able to go to Museum of Modern Art on my lunch break, and you know— it was just fabulous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=510.34,524.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did you become attracted to the hippy world?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=524.6,529.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I had a boyfriend at Time, and he was kind of a hippy and he introduced me to other hippies. I just thought it seemed pretty cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=530.77,547.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, you gave everything up in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=548.72,552.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=553.99,554.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And how'd you decide where to go? You went to San Francisco.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=554.18,558.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Because that's where the hippies were. New York was where the jobs were, San Francisco was the hippies were. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=559.45,567.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How'd you get there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=567.52,568.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Drove across country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=569.11,570.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: With your boyfriend?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=570.45,571.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=571.72,571.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what did you think about San Francisco when you got there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=571.79,575.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I loved San Francisco. I loved it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=575.62,579.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What did you like about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=579.57,581.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh, I just liked the energy there from all the hippies, from all the people there, and the access to Golden Gate Park, and the beach. I lived on Judah Street, real close to the ocean. And streetcars. I just liked it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=581.99,605.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What attracted you to the counter-culture movement at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=605.49,612.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: The freedom, the allure of being free of a lot of things that I had been taught that I would never be free of. That was most of it, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=613.75,642.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So what got you to Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=642.57,645.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, from San Francisco I moved up to Bolinas, where there was a women's group. And at the women's group, one day this woman in the group said, \"We're going to have two special guests next week, and they're both lesbians. And they're going to talk to us about being lesbians.\" I went to the group and I thought being a lesbian sounded really nice. And I had already been in love with a woman in college. I thought, \"Well, I'm going to check this out.\" And Bolinas was also where I learned carpentry, and I really enjoyed that a lot. There was a women's carpentry class that started up there that I was in. Then I worked with this old socialist, wonderful old guy, who was master carpenter and built boats. That's what Bolinas was— Oh, and I fell in love with a woman there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=647.04,722.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: After, or before, the workshop?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=722.94,724.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: After. She was one of the women in the women in the workshop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=725.15,728.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=728.26,728.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: She didn't know what to make of me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=728.34,731.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=732.31,732.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Because I came on to her so strong. But, it worked out, briefly. And then I moved up to Caspar, and Albion, in northern California, where a lot, a lot, a lot of lesbians were. And got introduced to Country Women magazine and the whole Country Women community, a lot of whom were living in Albion. And I lived with a collective of women in Caspar. And then one day, one of those women said, \"You know, there's this place up in southern Oregon that I'd like to go to. Would you want to go with me?\" And she said it was named WomanShare, and it just started. I don't remember what year that was, but it was whatever the year the three of them came to WomanShare and established it. We put out our thumbs and hitchhiked up to WomanShare. And I thought it seemed really, really nice, what these women were wanting to do there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=732.66,818.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can we just back up for a minute. When you got involved with this woman and began to identify as a lesbian, you said that seemed really nice. What seemed nice about it? And did you have any misgivings from your conservative childhood? Did you have any fears about that, or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=818.59,839.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yes. I did. I mean, I think one of the most painful things for me looking back, not then, but looking back, was how much I shut off the part of my life— my parents, my relatives, I went into the closet with them to some extent. I just really, really wanted to— I had always identified with women in different ways, and I just really wanted to explore what being a lesbian meant, what it would mean to me. And I knew it would be good. I knew it would be a good thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=839.44,888.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When you knew it would be a good thing— what was attractive about it to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=888.31,904.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I just found women so much easier to be with than men. And I found them very beautiful, and I loved the idea of just being with women. There was a Country Women's festival in the Redwoods, up in Mendocino, that I went to a couple of times. I remember walking through the woods and sort of— I was by myself and there was nobody around, and I thought, \"Oh, I better be more aware here.\" I started feeling this fear, and then I realized I didn't need to feel that because I was with all these women. That was really nice to realize that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=904.21,965.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was WomanShare like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=965.84,969.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, they had just gotten there. I remember when we got there it was a blistering hot day and Billie, and Dian, and Carol were all sitting naked on a platform outside, trying to stay as cool as they could I guess. They were under a tree. And I just felt the potential there, you know? Nothing had happened. There were two buildings there that they were living in. But there weren't other women there. We got to know them and talked to them about what they wanted to do there. It was lovely. I really liked what they wanted to do. And I came eventually to live next door at a place called the Fish Pond. And I did some carpentry at WomanShare, I helped build this octagonal house. Eventually, from there, I went to Cabbage Lane in Wolf Creek, and lived with women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=969.52,1054.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And during this time I was becoming a separatist, feeling like I really, really didn't want to have men around in my life. Certainly not any— intimately or anywhere near me. At that time separatism was pretty acceptable to most people, to most women I knew. And Cabbage Lane was really fun. It was hot, hot, hot in the summer, cold, cold, cold in the winter. And gray in the winter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1054.88,1101.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: How many years did you live— Van Brunt: But it was beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1101.97,1103.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: —at Cabbage Lane?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1103.43,1104.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Probably about two, not real long. And I would commute to Eugene to do work, to do carpentry during the time I lived at Cabbage Lane. And that would give me enough money to keep living there. But eventually, I felt like I wanted to live in Eugene and work in Eugene, and not have to play that back and forth game. And things were sort of falling apart, in a way, at Cabbage Lane. People were leaving and there were all kinds of internal political things that were happening there that made it hard for all of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1105.5,1154.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of things?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1155.79,1157.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Not just internal, actually. We were raided by the police because— oh man, this is a long crazy story but, we were taking care of two kids. Their mothers were not there, but they were there. Those kids went with one of us down to Grants Pass to grocery shop, and on the way back they picked up this woman who was standing by the road hitchhiking. And one of the kids was a little boy, and he had been going over to the gay men's land. And they had been painting his fingernails, and putting dresses on him if he wanted that, and he did. This woman apparently, that we— we took her to Cabbage Lane, and we invited her to stay if she wanted to, overnight. But she didn't, she went on. But apparently, she called the cops on us and said, \"There are two children being held by these lesbians and they're going to be sacrificing them.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1157.68,1232.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1234.98,1235.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1235.39,1235.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: It was just so bizarre, we could hardly believe it was happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1235.51,1238.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we went into town to try to figure out what— they came— let’s see, how did they get the children? They came and got the children, took them away, disappeared them. And we went to town to try to figure out how on earth to get them back and to make sure they were safe. And while we were gone to Grants Pass, the cops came and raided Cabbage Lane, and went through everything and took journals. It was really kind of awful, and that sort of put a pall on the whole place, and the feelings we had for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1238.98,1287.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was that late '70s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1287.78,1292.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1292.03,1292.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mid '70s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1292.99,1293.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1293.86,1294.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative], okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1294.59,1295.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I don't know what year, probably '74, something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1295.5,1299.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you know if the mothers got their children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1299.47,1302.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah, they did. It took a while, and it was very scary because we didn't know where they were, or how they were being treated, or what. But, yeah, got them back. I mean the whole thing— I think the law finally realized that the whole story was just so bizarre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1302.44,1322.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we had friends in Wolf Creek who could testify for us that we wouldn't sacrifice children, number one— harm them in any way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1323.26,1336.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that was one of the few things that made me want to move away from Cabbage Lane. And the heat in the summer, and the cold in the winter, and all the rain was getting old pretty quickly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1337.84,1353.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Could you spend some time talking about some of the women that you met there? For example, did you meet Jean and Ruth Mountaingrove when you lived down there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1354.75,1362.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1362.94,1363.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Tell us something about them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1363.57,1365.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, they were living on adjacent land to Cabbage Lane. And they were living in this very tiny little cabin. They were living on—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1365.93,1376.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Golden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1376.21,1376.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: —Golden land. Elizabeth— I can't remember her last name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1376.68,1389.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Freeman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1390.51,1390.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Freeman. Elizabeth Freeman and Alana— Michaels, I think, were living next door to Golden land. So, there was Cabbage Lane, Golden, Elizabeth and Alana. And Elizabeth had quit her job on the east coast and moved out to be near her nephew, who lived at Golden. And then she and Alana got together. Elizabeth was one of the big donors to making OWL Farm happen. And I was there when we— I went to look for land for OWL Farm with— different groups of us would do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1390.91,1440.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And that stands for Oregon Women's Land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1441.0,1443.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yes. That's right. That was very exciting, that part. Ruth and Jean, I didn't know very well. I visited them from time to time in their cabin. And they came up to Cabbage Lane occasionally, but I kind of knew what they were doing with WomanSpirit magazine. Other women, well, La Rosa— I lived with La Rosa, Susanna Malool, Zarod— Clary Sage for a while, Nelly for a while— Nelly Kauffer, and probably several others. We had a single summer, Cabbage Lane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1443.95,1499.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1500.84,1501.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: There was this movement, I guess you'd call it, singles movement going on partly because— it was interesting, the politics of all this because OWL Farm, I think, mostly came from a desire to make land available to all women. And that desire sort of came from the fact that WomanShare was owned by three women, and other pieces of women's land around there, too, were private. And so all of us down there wanted— I shouldn't say all of us, as far as I could tell, all of us wanted to find some land that would be available to everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1501.58,1554.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then a single summer also kind of originated from Nelly, who was living at WomanShare, and all the other women had partners there. And Nelly just didn't feel nearly as taken care of and as cared about— well, that's the same thing— as the other women. She felt like there might be a way to connect with women [other than coupling up] that would answer her needs more. 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Or, from other— Van Brunt: Mostly Oregon. I don't think it was advertised very much, just probably in Eugene a little bit, and then word of mouth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1613.25,1626.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How many people came?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1626.07,1627.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I don't know. I'd say maybe twenty or thirty, I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1628.15,1633.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was Tee Corinne living down in southern Oregon when you were there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1633.82,1638.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I don't think so. I think she came after— I don't remember— I knew who she was, but I don't remember hearing about her moving there. I knew Madrone and Bethroot, still do, they're good friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1639.54,1659.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And helped them find their land, too, which was really fun. And— I can't think of who else I knew down there that you might know or have heard about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1661.44,1677.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You mentioned Billie Miracle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1679.16,1679.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Billie, and Carol Newhouse, and Dian— can't remember—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1679.81,1689.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Nelly?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1689.18,1689.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: And Nelly, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1689.63,1691.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So you're at southern Oregon lesbian land, and you know about Eugene. So you make a decision to come to Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1691.69,1708.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1708.7,1709.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: That was in the late '70s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1709.18,1713.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: No, it was probably— I think I guessed that it was about '75. But it's really a guess, because I didn't even look at calendars back then very much. I wrote down that I thought it was '75.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1713.58,1730.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1730.96,1731.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: And I came up here, and I lived at “193 Gay Paree” [Paris], which was a lesbian household. It was so much fun. It was on Washington and Second. They had business cards, and it said, \"193 Gay Paris.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1732.03,1754.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conveniently located next to the train tracks and under the freeway,\" which is what it was. It was a very noisy little neighborhood, but lots and lots of fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1754.09,1767.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Who else lived there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1767.93,1768.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: A woman named Varushka, who was Australian. Casey— whose name I can't remember. She's now a very prominent architect, I think, in Portland. I don't remember other names there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1769.82,1793.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I moved— I think from there I moved to Fourth Street, this big old falling down house that had lesbians on every floor. I think it was three or four floors [two or three floors]. And even one back out in the shed. It was a crazy little fire trap, because every single apartment in that place there were— one, two, three, four— maybe four or five apartments had no heat. And so we all had little trash burners, which are made from really thin, really thin, metal. It would glow red when the fire got too hot. And we would all have them going all the time in the winter time. And it was a little scary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1794.54,1853.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean my bathroom was— you had to go out of my apartment and onto a porch, that was very cold in the winter, to the bathroom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1853.59,1864.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the porch was a screen porch, so you couldn't— you could hook the screen door, but you couldn't really lock it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1864.94,1871.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a sketchy place to live, but lots of fun. Marlene Drescher lived there for a little while. And a woman named Delia. Nelly Kauffer lived there for a while. Who else? A wonderful woman named Angel, who wrote poetry. And from there—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1874.14,1905.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What made that so fun to live together?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1905.98,1908.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh, I just really liked the camaraderie amongst those women. They were all real interesting women. I like them all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1909.78,1917.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you remember what they did for a living?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1920.72,1923.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I think— Well, Marlene was in law school. Nelly, she might have been working at Starflower at that point. Delia— no, I don't remember very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1925.35,1948.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you have parties?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1948.16,1949.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative], occasionally. Not very often.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1951.66,1954.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Party house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1954.66,1955.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Not really. Just a fun house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1955.92,1960.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And you were doing carpentry at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1960.34,1962.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1962.13,1962.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you explain to us how you became a carpenter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1962.66,1963.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I became a carpenter in California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1963.1,1967.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: In Bolinas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1968.77,1970.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: In Bolinas, yeah I took the class. And then I worked with a guy who was a carpenter who taught me a lot, taught me most of what I knew, really. And then when I got to Eugene, I already knew some people, some women, who worked as carpenters and I had worked with them. And so we continued to work together and came up with this idea, there were some other women doing carpentry— and we came up with this idea of having a collective of women doing carpentry, and we named it Crescent Construction. And it was difficult.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=1970.26,2024.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it was fun in a way, but we were trying to be so fair and equal with each other. I was doing carpentry full time, training other women who didn't know anything about carpentry to be carpenters, and we were all getting the same pay because that's fair, right? And after a while it didn't seem right to me, I just had a hard time. We were making $5 an hour. So there were some arguments and discussions about that, of course, and eventually I quit Crescent, and started working with other construction companies with men, to make more money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2024.91,2080.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: How long were you with Crescent Construction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2080.68,2083.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Couldn't tell you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2084.91,2085.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: How did you choose the name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2086.32,2088.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Couldn't tell you. Don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2090.85,2096.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of things would you build?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2096.59,2099.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, we did mostly remodeling, residential remodeling. I don't think we did any new construction per se, but there were— the two women who were kind of the prime movers behind it, Rena Klein and Susan Baker, were both architects. They graduated from U of O, and they were very good carpenters, too. And what was I going to say about them? I can't remember. What did you ask me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2100.22,2139.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of things you built, and you said mostly remodels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2139.31,2141.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh. Well, I was going to say, Rena and Susan may have done some new construction. I don't remember, because they were the ones who probably knew how to do every single part of it. But the rest of us just did remodels, and additions, things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2141.42,2163.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you involved with anybody at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2163.37,2166.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Not early on. I think when I met Rakar in 1977 or '78, I think she was my first Eugene girlfriend, and it only lasted forty years. It's still lasting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2169.03,2197.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And counting, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2197.33,2198.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2200.12,2200.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So where did you meet Rakar?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2200.52,2202.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I was— you know— yeah, I had some girlfriends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2202.67,2206.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Now that you recall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2208.09,2209.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah. Where was Rakar?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2209.27,2211.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, back to what Eugene was like, then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2211.93,2215.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2216.04,2217.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was it like, and also where did lesbians meet? And, what kinds of social things were happening?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2217.07,2223.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, it was like a wonderland. It was just amazing because of all the women-owned and operated businesses. And when I say women, that's mostly lesbians. Starflower was, I don't know, 80 or 90 percent lesbians. And there were some men in the collective, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2224.25,2248.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Crescent was all lesbians. But there was Gertrude's Café, which was a wonderful place for us to be, just hang out, or eat, or play music, or just have fun. And let's see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2249.39,2272.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a lot of self-defense stuff going on that lesbians were very involved in. I was in a karate class. And Rena, of Crescent Construction, was my sensei in that class. And then there was Amazon Kung Fu, and many, many women that I knew were in that. So there was a lot of stuff around self-defense. I'm trying to remember when Nadia came. Much later, I think, not sure. But she got Self-Defense from the Inside Out going here, which was also wonderful. Self-defense program for women, specifically, because these others weren't. Amazon Kung Fu was, but karate wasn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2273.87,2336.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Starflower, of course, was one of the main places where lesbians were, and lesbians went. I did some remodeling there when they moved from Lincoln Street out to wherever the next warehouse was, the new warehouse. And while I was working at— I had this wonderful dog named Leafy Greens, and she went with me everywhere. She went to all my jobs, and stayed all day working with me. She could climb ladders.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2340.03,2382.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But anyway, I was doing this remodeling job at Starflower, and Leafy was there, and this woman came over and she said, \"Who is this?\" And I said, \"That's Leafy Greens.\" And that woman was Rakar. And Rakar was the transition person from building to building for Starflower. I sort of got to know her because I was doing the remodel. We pretty— we really hit it off, pretty quickly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2384.66,2426.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you like about Rakar?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2426.9,2429.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh, well, that's kind of a long story. Going back to Cabbage Lane, single summer, I met Rakar there. And she has said that when she heard my southern accent, she wanted to turn around and run away because she had just left the South. She had just gotten here and left the South, and she wanted to be away, away, away. And I had struggled with all these feelings about being a southerner, all of them negative. And I had just met this other southern woman who really helped me to see that I was okay. Just because I was southern, didn't mean I wasn't okay. And so, Rakar's southern accent didn't intimidate me, but mine did her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2431.2,2487.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Where is she from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2487.62,2489.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Georgia. I think I've lost track.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2490.29,2497.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you like about Rakar?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2497.46,2498.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh, what did I like about her? Well, she was a beautiful, smart, very caring and loving, and mostly because she fell in love with my dog instantly. And my dog had always been a one woman dog, until Rakar came along, so that meant a lot. And because she was an artist, and she was just a great woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2499.01,2534.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, did you move in together soon after that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2534.95,2540.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative], pretty soon. We did a trial run for a few months. I lived with her for a few months, and then I went back to the big old falling down house. And we decided that we liked living together, so we started living together and have been ever since, in the same house, on the same street, the same neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2541.88,2568.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you get married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2568.74,2570.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: We did, eventually, yes. Thirty-six years later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2570.44,2574.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So you've been together— Van Brunt: Forty years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2574.83,2578.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Forty years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2578.84,2579.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Uh-huh [affirmative]. Let me look at my notes and see if I'm forgetting anything. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I lived in Lorane for a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2579.57,2593.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There were these cabins on the river out there. There were like four or five cabins that lesbians lived in. I lived with a woman named Thea, and right next door to us were the commies. And the commies were socialists, you know. There was a lot of that happening then, too. There's a lot of heavy duty politics happening in the lesbian community in Eugene. 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I don't know. They were funky. But I guess we were all much more willing to live in funky places then. It didn't matter that much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2643.81,2666.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What did you find about carpentry that was fulfilling to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2666.03,2671.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I just loved being able to start with nothing and create something that was really— a physical thing, you know? And I loved the mental work, the figuring out, and the problem solving involved in it. I loved swaggering around in my carpentry belt, and feeling kind of butch, which I wasn't. But I wanted to be, so I tried.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2671.7,2710.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was that like, during that time? The butch-femme dynamic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2711.52,2717.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, it wasn't talked about till a little— I don't remember people talking about it much. Well now, that's not true. But I remember it being talked about a lot like when I was living in the old falling down house. I didn't want to identify either way, but everybody identified me as a femme. And Rakar is a butch, but we didn't take those to heart really. We didn't get into that very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2718.68,2769.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: When you think back— Van Brunt: But other people did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2770.92,2775.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: When you think back on those times, can you describe for us what a typical weekend might have been in the lesbian community in Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2775.73,2785.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: No. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2785.69,2790.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you go to bars?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2790.2,2793.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah, we went to the Riv Room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2793.41,2795.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2795.59,2795.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: And Thursday night was women's night, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2795.75,2801.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you find that to be fun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2801.02,2803.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah, I did. I did a lot of dancing, a lot of dancing. And when I was out in those cabins, all of us would get together and come into Eugene on Thursday night and dance our brains out. And then drive home, back to our little cabins. And then when I lived in Eugene, I went there a lot, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2803.9,2828.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you remember the Referendum 51?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2828.34,2836.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2836.31,2838.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Or, any of the other measures, what it was like for you and for your community to deal with those.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2840.69,2845.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: It was pretty awful. We had to deal with all of them. They just seemed to come one after another. The OCA was really active then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2846.36,2859.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was horrifying to have that in your face all the time, and have to deal with it all the time, but we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2863.21,2872.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you remember what people did to combat Measure 9? Or, try to get 51 passed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2872.63,2881.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I remember some phone banking. I remember some canvasing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2883.76,2891.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Was that scary, to knock on people's doors and talk about this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2893.2,2896.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yes. Yes. I did have doors slammed in my face, so it was scary. But it also was rewarding sometimes, and it was good when we could defeat them. Also, at some point in all this, I became a graphic designer. I don't know when. Late '70s. And I did some graphic design, Rakar and I did graphic design work for all the “No On…” measure things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2896.84,2945.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, is that like signs and buttons?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2945.55,2948.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah, signs, and logos, and buttons, and all that stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2948.23,2952.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So that was you, those buttons?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2952.23,2953.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah. But that's mostly what I remember about— Laurie McClain was part of a— I don't know if it was a group or just two women who wrote a book about that. And I think you all probably have that book, I hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2953.87,2975.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: We do now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2976.11,2977.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Good. Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2977.5,2978.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And so this brings us up into the— where are we, in the '80s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2980.87,2988.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: In the '90s, early '90s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2988.6,2990.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Nineties? What happened to the '80s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2990.87,2995.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Well, with Measure 9 was early '90s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2995.04,2995.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What happened to the '80s? What was happening to you in the '80s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2995.36,2996.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I was newly in love, and living with my love. We decided we wanted to live out on the coast, at least briefly. So, we rented out our house in Eugene, and moved out to Port Orford, of all places.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=2996.48,3019.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because Elizabeth, in Wolf Creek, had a bought a little piece of land there, and she said we were welcome to camp there. So, we went and camped there until it got too cold and rainy, and then we eventually found a house, and lived in Port Orford for— I don't know, maybe three years. Two or three years. And then we moved up to Bandon, and then we moved to Newport. And the main reason we moved to Newport was because we wanted to be amongst more lesbians. And you certainly couldn't find them in Port Orford. 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I honestly don't know how people perceived us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3075.51,3087.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you doing carpentry there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3087.97,3089.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I was doing whatever I could to make money. I painted a three story motel there, by myself. And I worked for a while at the Bandon Historical Society. That's sort of where I became a graphic designer. I worked— our two friends there lived in Langlois, and they were Elana Dykewoman and Dolphin, whose last name I can't remember. Elana and I worked at the Bandon Historical Society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3089.96,3138.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was the printer, and I was the graphic designer. And she printed on all these antique printing presses and machines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3138.84,3151.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had a lot of fun. We used to ride together up to Bandon. But one thing about living out in Port Orford that was really nice was that lots and lots people came out to visit us, a lot of women from Eugene. And the kind of visits you get when you live with somebody for three, or four, or five days is so different than catching them for lunch every two or three weeks, or less. That was really special, having all those friends come out. We lived in a spectacular place in Port Orford. It overlooked the ocean, and you could see the sunset come up in the east, and then go down in the west from where we were. It was just amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3154.11,3212.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we moved to Newport, we did indeed find a big lesbian community there. They had a softball team. I think they might have had two women's softball teams. And lots of parties, and unfortunately, lots and lots of alcohol. That became hard for us after a while. We bought a sign shop in Newport and ran it for not very long, maybe a year, year and a half. We didn't know anything about making signs, but we learned. And I loved that, I just loved it. 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Back when they were painted. They're all digital now, they're all printed. But back then, they were hand painted. And it was way, way fun, except for the men I had to work with. But it was lots of fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3280.35,3296.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What were some of the conflicts with the men that you worked with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3297.57,3301.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, they were— good old boys, you know? They come to work drunk. One of them locked himself in the bathroom one time and just drank for a day and a half, nobody could get him out. And they would snicker about me sometimes. I didn't always understand what they were snickering about. I think they respected me as a bulletin painter because I was very good at it, but certainly wasn't friends with them. And where to go from there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3301.36,3349.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, and yeah, when I was doing bulletin painting, it was right when bulletins were all becoming digitally printed. And there was— painters were no longer needed. That was kind of the end of that, and I went into graphic design. I did that most of the '90s and into the 2000s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3351.12,3377.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Who would you work for? Who would hire you to do graphic design?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3379.75,3385.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I had my own business for some of the time. And then I got really tired of having to do everything, especially marketing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3387.98,3399.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: But what were you designing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3399.71,3401.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I was designing— just marketing materials for businesses. I took a job at the Attorney General's— what is it called— Attorney General's Sexual Assault Task Force. I was the executive assistant, and I had never done a job like that before. And I didn't do it very well. I didn't last there. And the last job I had before I retired was at U of O in the Continuing Ed department, downtown in the old Register-Guard building. That was a good job, but I was kind of losing it. I had a really, really hard time. My parents were dying in Tallahassee, and I was extremely depressed, and my dog died. It was like one thing after another, and I didn't last there, either. I left and I decided to retire. That was in 2008.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3401.39,3489.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what's retirement been like for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3489.58,3493.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: It's been good. I always thought it would be heaven, it's not really heaven. I wish I'd been able to retire when my body was healthier, but I love not having to work. I love it. I'm not one of those people who ever loved their jobs, really, except for bulletin painting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3494.62,3520.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you do something now with all that creativity?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3520.34,3523.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I paint. I do watercolor painting, mostly just in a class though, not on my own. And I do like that a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3526.22,3539.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What do you think— how do you see aging in the Eugene lesbian community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3539.41,3548.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I think a lot of us have gotten pretty isolated from each other. I have very few connections with— and I certainly have no sense of community anymore, the way I did back in the '70s and '80s, and a little in the '90s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3551.93,3571.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why do you think that is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3571.89,3573.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I don't know. I think we just had to get more and more responsible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3573.76,3595.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know if that's the word, but— had to fit in more in order to work, in order to make money. I'm grasping here. 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I'm pretty involved with SURJ, so that's kind of my outside thing I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3645.93,3654.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you tell us something about SURJ, because it's fairly new?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3654.08,3656.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah. Well, the concept is that it is white people's responsibility to get rid of racism. It is not the responsibility of people of color. And so SURJ is mainly white people, it's not exclusive at all, but we do acknowledge that it is our responsibility. And so the group itself is almost entirely white people. There are one or two people of color who come regularly. And we just work on everything we can to try to bring racial justice to the fore, so that people learn about what's going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3656.8,3709.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How do you do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3710.52,3712.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I was on this committee to try to get as many people, as many groups of people as possible to watch the film 13th. And we did that for a while, and lots of people did watch it. And then we had a big event, I don't know if you went to it, at TBI in May called “Beyond 13th.” We had speakers, and dinner—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3712.51,3749.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: This is at Temple Beth Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3749.26,3750.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah. Speakers and a dinner, and audience questions and feedback, and it was very successful. Now, I don't think there's anything going on with 13th that I'm aware of. But we're working on trying to reunite families at the border in those horrible facilities. Just— well, you know, there's so many things going on. It's like you could spend twenty-four hours a day working on these things. Because of all that guilt I carried about being a southerner, I find it really clarifying now to understand who needs to work on racial justice, and it's me. It needs to be me. So, it feels good. Really good people in the group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3750.62,3826.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, really and truly, I'm very much a homebody. I go to movies occasionally, sometimes with SURJ friends, sometimes with other friends, sometimes by myself, sometimes with Rakar. And Rakar is very much a homebody, even more than I am, I would say. But she stays connected through email and such with people. But it's really different. It's really different now, and part of it is our bodies falling apart. I'm having a problem now with walking any real distance, and my lower back is very fragile. I've had two knee replacements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3829.39,3889.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's so many things I used to do that I can't do anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3889.48,3895.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: If you could envision a rebirth of lesbian community for older women, what would you imagine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3895.57,3909.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Ooh— Well, I haven't imagined that, but that sounds good. Yeah, it would be great to be able to support each other and talk about what we're going through. And maybe provide more opportunities to enjoy our time, our lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3911.11,3942.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Somebody suggested taking over one of the floors of the Eugene Hotel; it would be an all lesbian floor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3942.28,3951.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: That sounds nice. Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3951.92,3955.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: When you think back on living in Eugene, all those years, and in those early years when the lesbian community was getting established, have you thought about why Eugene might have had a large lesbian community? I'm wondering, what was it about Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3956.99,3978.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah. I wonder that, too. I don't know. I don't think it related to the university being here, but it might have tangentially. There were just a lot of lesbians here, and I don't know if the community had already been established enough when the big flowering happened, or not. I don't know. Maybe a lot of women were just feeling like they could come out at that point. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=3978.3,4023.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you articulate what brought you the most happiness about that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4024.0,4032.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: It's that feeling of connection with women I really cared about, and admired, and had fun with, loved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4033.02,4044.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you tell us about your marriage to Rakar?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4045.09,4052.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, it hasn't always been easy being together, but I'd say mostly it's just been pure love that's gotten us through a lot, and a lot of hard work. I found out when I was— I don't know how old I was— about sixty-five or something, that I had ADD, and always had had, but I didn't know it. So, I was undiagnosed, but that has had a huge effect on our relationship. But we didn't understand it, we didn't know why I did certain things the way I did, or I forgot things, or all this stuff. That's been a big part of what we struggle with in our relationship, but for the most part I would say we get along really well. We really have fun together and love each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4052.63,4128.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When did you get married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4128.38,4130.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Two thousand fourteen. That's the time we got legally married. We got married in Portland, too, but they sent us our check back. Did you get married in Portland?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4131.06,4148.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That was sad. That was sad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4148.14,4149.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: It was. It was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4149.6,4149.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: —marriages annulled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4151.05,4152.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yep. But I can't really say that I experience a difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4152.13,4162.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And even with the federally recognized marriage, has that made any difference to you? Bureaucratically, or financially?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4162.8,4173.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well— the only financial thing I can think of is the social security protection that we have now. What do you mean, bureaucratically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4176.49,4204.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, in terms of being recognized as spouses, whether that makes a difference in anything in your life. 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But I've never had any problem with medical people, being out. It was interesting because as soon as we got married, it felt like the whole world just accepted it. I'm sure that's not true for everybody, and certainly depending on where you live. But for me, it just felt like, eh. You know? But it has been easy for me in Eugene to be a lesbian, to be out. 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Does that seem like fast that that's happened, or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4306.6,4320.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Does it seem like it happened fast?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4321.92,4323.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: To see that change happen quickly, or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4324.39,4326.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, for a long time I didn't relate to that push. I didn't think it was a thought that of all the things that lesbians and gay men had to deal with that wasn't at the top of the list at all for me for a long time. And it never really got to the top of the list. But, I was surprised when the Supreme Court made that decision, happily surprised. And I was glad to have that acknowledgement of my relationship, but it wasn't— I don't know if it felt like it happened fast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4331.9,4381.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would you— Van Brunt: It did. Yeah, it did. Thinking back on it. It felt like there was all this momentum for a few years, and then boom, it happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4382.67,4392.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you remember what you would've put at the top of the list of what gay men and lesbians needed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4392.93,4397.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Well, I guess just those general protections, legal protections, that we didn't have. Like the medical stuff, particularly, and wills, and— I mean, wills were a way to protect, but not the way straight people were able to be protected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4399.42,4433.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: All those measures also were about protections against discrimination, and housing, and employment— Van Brunt: Yes, all that stuff. I definitely would put all those things above marriage. But I think marriage, the fact that we can get married now, is just another step toward those things, too, is creating more acceptance. I'm a little afraid because of who is in the White House right now, and all those people in power over there. But generally speaking, I think that marriage was another step forward for all of us, and will and did affect those things, too. I hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4433.87,4489.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Is there any part of your life we haven't asked you about that is important?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4493.04,4497.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Wow. Oh, I remember an organization that got started— when was that? Probably the early '80s, I think. Lesbians in Coalition Against Racism and Anti-Semitism. Do you remember that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4497.88,4521.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4523.61,4523.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: That—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4523.89,4524.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Where did it meet? And who was in it? And what did you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4528.83,4532.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: I think we talked a lot. We tried to connect with other groups like CALC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4533.52,4544.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That's Clergy and Laity Concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4544.54,4548.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4548.59,4548.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Community group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4548.94,4550.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: It was. It's the same name, but it—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4550.66,4553.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: —new name now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4553.91,4555.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: —stands for different things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4555.15,4555.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4555.98,4556.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: They called it LIC. Somebody called it LIC— LIC R ASS, but I'm not sure how they got that out of racism and anti-Semitism. Lesbians in Coalition, LIC, against racism, R, and anti-Semitism— sort of ass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4558.4,4594.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: LIC R ASS.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4595.01,4597.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: LIC R ASS. Nadia was in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4600.54,4603.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Nadia Telsey?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4603.52,4603.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Uh-huh [affirmative]. And Sue Dotstetter, and me, and— I honestly, my memory's not very good, looking back like that. But, yeah, I don't remember either, what we actually did, other than trying to raise our own consciousnesses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4603.74,4630.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, sounds a lot like SURJ.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4631.3,4632.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4632.71,4632.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Earlier version of SURJ.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4633.17,4635.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4635.04,4635.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4635.99,4636.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4636.57,4638.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Your interest has stayed the same over the years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4638.25,4640.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Uh-huh [affirmative], but it was just lesbians, that's the difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4640.08,4643.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Oh, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4643.41,4643.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: And SURJ is part of a national group. But yes, the focus was similar. Are we done yet? [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4645.85,4656.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, we really like to thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4656.79,4659.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4660.09,4660.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4660.27,4660.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4660.44,4661.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: —for your memories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4661.46,4662.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Van Brunt: Oh, you're so welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4662.49,4663.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389#t=4665.21,4665.38"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56190/file/130389/transcript/92620/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/620/original/835_Coll520_do060_aligned.vtt?1776852379","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/620/original/835_Coll520_do060_aligned.vtt?1776852379"}]}]}]}