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Altadena was a racially integrated community. Kate and her siblings were raised by her mother, who was ill for much of Kate's childhood. She describes turbulent times when the schools were beginning racial integration policies. Around the same time, there was a major earthquake in Los Angeles in 1971. These events disrupted Kate's education, so she dropped out and hitchhiked with a friend to Springfield, Oregon. She worked odd jobs in Springfield and Eugene. She met a printer, Sean O'Reilly, with whom Kate printed lots of anti-draft and anti-war leaflets. Kate describes Jackrabbit Press and where it was located. Kate describes becoming a lesbian and the dynamics of the lesbian community. Kate discusses the women with whom she was involved. She describes the gay bar, the Riviera Room and the older generation of lesbians who predated the lesbian migration of younger women. Kate describes the operation and focus of Jackrabbit Press. In 1976, Kate moved to Seattle and began printing there. She did anti-racist and Native rights work. She then started working in graphic design, rather than printing. She worked as an art director at the Village Voice and Entertainment Weekly in New York, and for the Seattle Weekly. She was an early digital designer at Paul Allen's Starwave in the 1990s. Later, she became the founding Creative Director at ABCNews online. Kate retired in 2012, but kept a few clients. She now lives on Vashon Island and works as an artist. A recent show of her work featured paintings of older lesbians. Kate concludes her interview by discussing lesbians and aging, evolutionary plant engineering, and why the lesbian community became her true home.\n\n\nKey terms: Aging; Bars (Drinking establishments)  --  Oregon -- Eugene; Butch and femme (Lesbian culture); Eugene (Or.)  --  Social conditions; Feminism; Feminist bookstores; Gibbons, Jane; Growers Market; Lesbian identity; Morrigan, Kendra; Mother Kali's Books; Motorcycles; Newman, Connie; O'Reilly, Sean; Plant genetic engineering; Printing; Racial integration; Reddick, Shelley; Riviera Room; Spirituality; Springfield Creamery; Starflower Natural Foods \u0026amp; Botanicals; Vaden, Paula Jo; Vietnam War, 1961-1975  --  Protest movements  --  United States."]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Kate Thompson (Interviewee)","Judith L. Raiskin (Interviewer)","Linda Long (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://scua.uoregon.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/607045"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Moving Image"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project Collection consists of interviews of 83 people for the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project, conducted by Professor Judith Raiskin and Curator Linda Long at the University of Oregon starting in the summer of 2018."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/029/original/uo-logo-hires.png?1580744881","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/387/small/Coll520_do058.jpg?1637324503","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Coll520_do058.mp4"]},"duration":4276.58667,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/387/small/Coll520_do058.jpg?1637324503","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/130/387/original/Coll520_do058.mp4?1637324503","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4276.58667,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["837_Coll520_do058_aligned [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: This interview is part of the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3.96,9.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The recordings will be made available through the University of Oregon Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives. This is an oral history interview with Kate Thompson on September 7, 2018, taking place in the University of Oregon Libraries’ recording studio, in the Center for Media and Educational Technologies. The interviewers are Linda Long, Curator of Manuscripts in the UO Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives and Professor Judith Raiskin, of the UO Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=9.72,41.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kate, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project and that you give your permission for the University to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=42.03,51.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yes, I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=51.89,52.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you very much. So let's just begin with the basic question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=52.72,56.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you please tell us when and where you were born, where you grew up, and something about your early background?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=56.16,61.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I was born on July 2, 1953, in Los Angeles, California, in Cedars of Lebanon Hospital, which I mention, because it is now the international headquarters for the Church of Scientology. But I grew up around L.A., mostly in Altadena, California. Altadena is an interesting place because it is one of the few communities where there is no covenant against people of color, so it's a highly- integrated community, and it's surrounded by a lot of white neighborhoods. It's also relatively, sort of, low-income, but also an interesting neighborhood because there were a lot of people who worked at JPL there, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, so a lot of, sort of, science geeky types around, which factored in for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=61.06,126.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did your parents do there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=127.06,129.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I was pretty much raised by my mom. My father worked at Northrop Grumman for a while, and then he left, and I was— so we were raised, there were three of us, we were raised by my mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=129.93,141.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was a Kelly Girl is what they called it then, temporary secretary, for the most part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=141.69,149.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You had brothers and sisters?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=149.3,152.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I have one brother. I had one brother. He died many, many years ago, and I have a sister, yeah. My mother died when I was twenty- three. My mother was ill much of my life, I guess I'd say, and in and out of the hospital, so I left home when I was seventeen. I was the oldest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=152.39,180.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was your temperament like? What kind of kid were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=180.38,185.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I was a really bossy kid from all reports. I always had a little gang around me. I was always building stuff. I built tree houses, I built— I mean, I really feel for kids these days, because we were so free- range. We were basically told, \"Go out, and I don't want to see you again until dark.\" I built go-carts. I was given a chemistry set when I was about eight, which just thrilled me to no end. I blew up my bedroom twice, and my joke about it is, my mother actually started dating the fireman who came, at one point. I was a complete geeky little kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=186.45,234.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then when I hit high school, times were very turbulent then, and it was like 1966, '67, '68, '69. The high school I went to, the Pasadena Unified High Schools were ordered to integrate in 1970, and I was to graduate in 1971. I went to the minority high school. It was probably 60 percent black and Hispanic and 30 percent white.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=234.8,268.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nobody wanted to be integrated, which sounds terrible, but it's really true. There were a lot of riots, and the school kind of shut down, so my schooling was really hit and miss for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=271.2,284.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then in my senior year, in 1971, there was a major earthquake in Los Angeles, and my high school was severely damaged. That earthquake was in February 1971, and a friend and I looked at each other and said, \"You know, there's really no reason for us to be here,\" and we stuck out our thumbs and hitchhiked up to Springfield. Actually, Springfield is where, I think I had like twenty bucks, and he had a sister who lived in Springfield, and so we stayed with her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=285.79,323.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now she happened to be a woman named Nancy Van Brasch, who is the Nancy of Nancy's Yogurt, and at the time, her boyfriend was Chuck Kesey, so we kind of landed in kind of the fountain of hippiedom, kind of completely. I had no idea. But it was really disappointing to me because, by 1971, I think everybody was drinking gin and tonics and inhaling helium to make their voices sound funny, and nitrous oxide, and it was not exactly the peace, love, kind of, rainbow stuff I'd thought about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=323.54,365.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I went to work at the Springfield Creamery. They had yogurt, plain yogurt, and then these little cups on top, and I think it was, for seventy cents an hour, I would put fruit in the little cups on top. I worked in the cannery there, and sometime toward the end of that year, '71, I had turned eighteen, and I started working at the Odyssey Coffee Shop, which was on Willamette Street, and run by Bill and Cindy Wooten, who are, I think, kind of legendary figures here at that point. I worked there as a counter girl for ninety cents an hour, and any sandwich I wanted, except for the roast beef, which was expensive. In the course of working there, I lived a couple of different places, just crashed around. I was thinking about going on up to Seattle. I just didn't really know what to do, and my mom was in the hospital again, so I was thinking about going back to L.A.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=365.94,439.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then I met this guy named Sean O'Reilly, and we struck up a great friendship and a relationship. He lived in a house that is no longer there, that is on the other side of the railroad tracks from the Growers Market, where I think there's a condo there now. It was called the Press House. He had grown up in a tent on the Feather River Project. He has great stories and nothing to do with this, but somebody should interview him at some point. His parents were Communists, and they'd been kind of chased all over hell and gone, but he had learned how to print because they printed flyers. He had a little AB Dick, so the two of us would print flyers for anti- war— there was a huge anti-draft thing going on at the time. We did a lot of printing, licit and illicit, to help keep people out of the war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=440.57,499.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would be illicit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=499.83,502.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Probably not going to go into that too much, but to help people get out of the country—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=503.51,507.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Oh, I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=507.37,507.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oh, mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=507.78,507.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: —for the most part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=507.98,508.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can we go back for a second?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=508.89,510.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=510.29,510.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was the AB, AB?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=510.87,512.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: An AB Dick is a—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=512.54,513.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: AB Dick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=513.55,513.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: —type of printing press. I'm sorry, I should've— it’s a klutzy little press. It's a vertical press versus— it’s an offset press. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=513.67,521.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=521.89,522.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Sean was also a motorcycle enthusiast. He had a bunch of old vintage bikes. One day, he and his buddies went off for a ride, and we had a big job to do, and I didn't really know how to run the press. But he said, \"Oh, you just— you’ve watched me do it. Just do it.\" It took me like twenty-four hours to figure out what order the rollers went in. I had ink all over myself, but I got the job done. I figured out how to do it. From then on, we did all the printing together. I became a printer and a stripper, which is part of printing, or was a part of printing then, where you prepare negatives to burn the plates that you put on the offset press. All very old technology, now, very seldom used.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=524.98,573.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sean and I ran the press, and at one point, the Feds came after him, and we had to move elsewhere, so we started putting the press in trucks and moving it around. We lived up North until early '72, probably, and I just wasn't kind of living I wanted to do. So I said, \"Well, I'm going to come back, and we'll set up the press in some other building.\" The first building we set it up in, or I set it up in, was underneath Starflower. By that time, we had bought another press, a multilith. I don't remember the number of it, but it was another printing press.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=573.86,620.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had become a union shop, which was a lot easier then than it is now. But the problem with being underneath Starflower was, every time anybody walked over us, the grain would filter down into the printing presses. It wasn't going to work out very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=622.99,639.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sean eventually did get arrested and sent down to the Bay Area for induction, which he failed spectacularly, but it took him away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=640.47,649.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"While he was gone, I ran the press. At that point, we decided to move it to Growers Market, which was just kind of an amazing thing to do because we had this huge Harris press by this time. It's an offset press, and we had to cut a hole in the ceiling and hook a winch up to it, and then we hooked that winch up to a power wagon and backed it down toward the railroad tracks in order to pull the printing press up there. I say all this because, while he was gone, I took care of his motorcycles, and he had actually built me a motorcycle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=649.22,688.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to go back to high school, a little bit because my first gay experience was when I— I had a best friend, Candy Vasquez, and I tried desperately to get her to kiss me under the rubric that Janis Joplin had been bisexual. The net result of these things that I did was usually that we would both get totally shit-faced and then never speak of it again, so I was pretty unsuccessful in that. I knew I had tendencies, but I wasn't really following them up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=689.55,724.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But while Sean was gone, I was riding his bikes around, and I guess— People started coming up and inviting me to dances, and I was like, \"Really? All girls? I don’t know.\" That was kind of it. Sean came back, and we split up, and I took one of the motorcycles and moved into a house at Fourth and Adams.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=724.33,750.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Fourth and Adams?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=751.03,751.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: It must be a famous corner. I actually, I got here a little early, so I drove around. That neighborhood hasn't changed at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=751.69,761.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Starflower was down near there at Fourth and Lawrence, wasn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=763.27,766.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=766.64,767.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=767.4,768.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=768.39,768.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=768.55,768.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And Mother Kali's was there at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=768.71,770.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Was it? It's like over on Blair or something, I can't—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=770.25,772.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Fourth and Blair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=772.62,772.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=772.78,774.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=774.43,774.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I find I have a hard time with the geographic memory, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=775.36,778.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can I just ask you when you started saying yes and going to these dances and getting involved with women, how was that for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=779.29,787.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: It felt pretty natural. The first woman I ever slept with, I actually just picked up at the Riviera Room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=790.62,799.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: At the bar there? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=799.64,802.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Because that was kind of, yeah— Then my first kind of girlfriend was Connie Newman, who now, I don't think, identifies as gay anymore. But I think I said this in my thing, the thing that I remember most about that time is what insane sluts we were. I mean, if you whiteboarded it all out, everybody was in high- mating morph, is all I can say. Everybody slept with everybody then, and sometimes you run into somebody now, in our later years, and we're like, after a while you're [makes sound effects]. I don't know where I was going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=803.33,853.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Asking you about when you first got involved with women, sexually, how was that for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=854.53,858.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: It was kind of natural. It didn't feel like— it felt liberating and wonderful. There were aspects of the lesbian community that really left me befuddled, I guess. One of them was sort of this high-level, or an expectation of, kind of, “woo-woo,” and I am one of the least “woo-woo” people you've ever met. It's just not something— so I saw myself as a printer. I rebuilt my cars. I—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=858.8,895.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You're a scientist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=895.65,896.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, just that sort of kind of aspect of it. I didn't really feel a part of the community in that. I felt like there was probably other women more like me that were— I'm not saying I was like super butch, particularly. I came from probably— I hadn't gone to college. I didn't come from particularly secure circumstances, so I think that I sort of held myself apart from that, a lot, to a certain extent. But that was, I mean, we still had a lot of fun. One of the reasons I say that is you brought up Mother Kali's, and I think I sort of lumped Mother Kali's in with the whole, you know, kind of thing [gestures]—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=896.83,951.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Kind of this, like, spirituality, in a way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=951.59,953.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yes, spirituality and that. It wasn't that I— Did I judge people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=953.17,962.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably, a little bit. But I mostly just didn't feel really connected to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=962.73,967.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: But not alienated enough to not participate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=968.05,972.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: To not sleep with those people, no, uh-uh [negative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=972.56,974.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=974.14,974.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: We can say all this now that we're old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=974.34,978.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe the Riviera Room?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=979.14,980.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Oh my god, the Riv Room. The Riv. Yeah, I had this old British motorcycle that ran about 20 percent of the time, and we'd go down to the Riv. The Riv was, this was how I remember it, was like really dark, red flocked velvet wallpaper. It had these backlit posters of the Riviera that were kind of cheesy and all washed out, so it looked very Cinemascope '50s, sort of. They had the wine bottles and grapes, I think, hanging from the ceiling. It was the cheesiest place in the world. Cheesy without irony. Cheesy simply because it had grown into its cheesiness. It had a tiny little dance floor, and I think disco was just sort of starting to come around. It'd be like '74, '73, '74.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=980.24,1042.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All the girls, they'd dance, and there would always be, sitting at the bar, all of, and I think of these as farm women. I mean, just these powerful, diesel dyke women sitting at the bar just nursing, like totally not the least bit happy to see all these like little puppies. But it was fun. It was fun. You know, it was a time of hard-drinking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1042.56,1069.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes I would get home, and I would look out in the front yard, and the motorcycle would be on its side, and I had somehow gotten from the Riv Room back to Fourth and Adams on it. I had no idea how, so it's one of those things. How do you live through those days? I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1070.32,1085.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It's interesting. I've never thought of the generation of lesbians that were living here before this influx of puppies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1085.17,1091.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: They were, and I know because that was actually one of the ones that I picked up. It was definitely a different generation, and it was, I think, women who worked out in Junction City and out in, you know, and came in on a Saturday night and did some hard drinking. That was my sense of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1092.02,1117.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was the woman of that group that you got together with, what was she like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1117.12,1122.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Oh, well, I'm really sort of ashamed that I don't remember her name. I think I had a goal in mind, and I sort of accomplished that goal. She was actually taller than I am, and I'm pretty tall. We had a lot of fun, and we saw each other a couple of times. She started thinking it was going to be a relationship, and that had not been my goal at all. My goal had basically been to lose my lesbian virginity, so I don't remember how it ended.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1122.65,1158.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. But you got involved with somebody in the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1158.72,1162.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, I got involved with Connie Newman, and she worked at Starflower, and then also with Paula Vaden, and a woman named Reddick who, if you haven't interviewed, you probably should. She was here at that time, and she's pretty legendary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1162.27,1185.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What's her name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1185.29,1187.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Red. Shelley Reddick, but she goes by Reddick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1187.64,1190.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So what were you doing for— you’re dancing at the Riv Room, you knew people at Starflower, and you were printing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1195.45,1205.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Printing, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1205.86,1206.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How was that? How was that going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1206.59,1208.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Well, Sean got back from Oakland, and by that time, two other women had come into the print shop. I'd invited a woman named Jane Gibbons, and one of the reasons was, Jane really was a printer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1208.3,1225.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She had worked as a printer. She also had money, and we were having a hard time with the old presses. These presses we were using were really old, so she offered to buy a new Hamada, which is an offset press, brand new, which really would've upped our game, and it did. She came into the press and Sean— and to this day, I have regrets about how that was handled. It became kind of this women's print shop, and he was kind of frozen out, and he had to leave. The reason I feel regrets about it is because Sean was very working-class, and there was a lot of class crap that happened at that time. He ended up actually getting arrested and going to prison up at— What's the one for— OSU, I think. Younger offender. OCU up in Corvallis or something like that. But anyway, and then a couple of other women came in. Jane was straight, and another woman who came in was straight. A woman named Kendra came in, who's gay—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1225.49,1301.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Morrigan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1301.95,1302.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, I think so, yeah. Not for long. Reddick came in. I would teach these women how to print, and sometimes it would work, and sometimes it wouldn't. We started getting renowned for being a women's press, and there weren't that many. There were a couple of others. There was Maud Gonne Press in Berkeley, and another press in Berkeley as well, whose name I forget. One of the things that we did early on in the running of Jackrabbit was we organized a women in print conference, and people came from all over the West Coast, and it was really kind of an amazing time because there were all these women's print shops doing printing stuff for women. We'd printed a book called What Lesbians Do, which I have a very funny story to tell you about printing that at the same time that we had a fire inspection. Awkward!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1302.04,1360.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Tell that story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1363.3,1365.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: It was basically what lesbians do, and by that, I mean sexually, and I can't remember the two women who did it, but it was an illustrator and a poet. It was mostly illustrations, fairly explicit. The cover itself wasn't that explicit, but it had what we call full coverage, which was, we had to lay a lot of ink on it. When you have to lay a lot of ink, you had to kind of put them in very small stacks all over the print shop so they would dry before you ran them through the press again. We had these things all over the print shop. Basically, a huge vulva everywhere, and we get a knock on the door, and there's like twelve firemen lined up behind it. First of all, we were doing so many things wrong. I mean, we had like open gas cans and, it was like— print shops are terribly flammable places. We're on the upstairs of a wood warehouse, I mean, it was— so we tried to talk them into coming back later, but it was a no go. They all walk through, and not one of them said a word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1367.14,1435.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They walked through the print shop, and they walked all the way back into the camera room. It was like on every surface and everywhere, like pinned up on the walls. Like vulva, vulva, vulva, vulva. They walked back, and they all filed out, and the guy said, \"We'll be sending you a report.\" And I know that that is a legendary story in that firehouse today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1436.4,1460.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: That's funny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1464.58,1464.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: We printed poetry books for like Olga Broumas and Adrienne Rich and other poets, whose names I forget. Printed a lot of stuff for the Eritrean Student Union, for the Iranian students. We did a lot of stuff because we were a union shop for the University, some of the University's radical sociologists, I guess you'd say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1464.85,1494.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Can you tell us how you came up with the name Jackrabbit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1494.42,1500.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I have no idea, to be really honest. We named it before it was a women's press, and we had been Vision Works before that. The guy who had been part of the press, sort of in and out before, then left and wanted to take the name with him for something else. We named it Jackrabbit. I don't know why. There's no great story behind it. Then I became “Kate Jackrabbit” because that's what people would call me. I mean, it's not like it was so they could take a name or anything. People would call me Kate Jackrabbit, and I would do illustrations for Women's Press and things, and sign it Kate. At first, I'd just sign it Kate, and then Jackrabbit, as in the Press. But then it just morphed into Kate Jackrabbit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1500.53,1556.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So you became known as a press for feminist publications?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1556.32,1562.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Everything, pretty much. We were still doing a lot of anti-war stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1562.88,1568.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A lot of feminist, sort of new feminist groups were starting and did a lot of printing for them. Women in the trades stuff was coming along. We did some printing for the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1569.82,1582.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: My recollection is that you also printed WomenSpirit magazine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1582.73,1587.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: We did. Right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1587.31,1588.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Uh-huh [affirmative], uh-huh [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1589.27,1589.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: With—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1589.55,1589.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did Jean and Ruth Mountaingrove come up and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1589.89,1593.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: They did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1593.48,1594.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: —talk with you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1594.02,1594.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, I remember, yeah, we were—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1594.18,1594.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oh, can you describe that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1594.46,1594.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I would like to say I remember them. I mean, I remember exactly what they looked like. To get back to that “woo-woo” thing, I think I dismissed them a little bit because they were very “woo-woo.” I remember one time, somebody and I, I was riding my bike down to Mexico, which was another story, but we stopped in Mountain Grove, which is where they were— Wolf Creek, Wolf Creek, right— and stayed overnight at their place, and it was just too much for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1594.7,1625.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: At Rootworks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1628.3,1628.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1628.88,1628.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: At Rootworks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1628.96,1628.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Was that where it was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1629.1,1630.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1630.19,1630.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: It was like Wolf Creek, it was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1630.27,1631.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Well, they might have been— What year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1633.03,1635.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: That's '73, maybe? So—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1635.32,1635.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yeah, by then, I believe they were at Rootworks. Before that, they were at Golden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1635.92,1642.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1642.34,1643.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: They started publishing WomenSpirit when they were at Golden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1643.46,1645.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1645.84,1646.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: But then they moved to their own land called Rootworks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1646.89,1649.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Okay, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1649.11,1649.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1649.94,1650.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: That must've been it, then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1650.22,1650.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1650.46,1651.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah. I remember that— I'm trying to remember whether it was on the way there or on the way back. I can't, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1651.31,1664.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It was too much for you, meaning?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1664.06,1665.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I think my judgment of women who came from, sort of this, you know, \"We're all women. We're all beautiful,\" was that— I don't know even how to say this. I just felt like they were kind of marks. I just felt like they're not in the real world. They're in some other thing. Now I have great friends who subscribe to all kinds of wacko things. I have no judgment. I really don't. But I think it's great, whatever kind of faith brings you comfort. But at that point, I think I was much more judgmental.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1666.94,1718.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then the other thing I was really judgmental of at that point, and this wasn't Ruth and Jean, was that there was starting to be this kind of politically correct thing that happened, where I called it “Your class background divided by the worth of your stereo” would net you your net worth, your net political worth in the community. I felt like there were women who fetishized poverty and thought it was very romantic and everything. I grew up fairly insecure. I see what women raising kids alone is, and it's not pretty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1719.27,1767.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a really hard row to hoe. I saw women, kind of taking stuff on, that I thought, \"They don't know.\" They don't—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1768.08,1775.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were they mostly middle-class women who were—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1775.94,1777.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I guess, yeah. Yeah. I think that I also— I'm coming off like a real asshole. I think that that too was like— I think that we sort of held ourselves, like, \"We'll print for everybody. We don't care.\" But I think that all of those currents were going on in the print shop as we printed. We sort of saw ourselves as sort of the midwives of the literature, or whatever it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1777.88,1807.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you consider yourself a literary person?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1807.99,1811.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No. Mm-mm [negative]. No, no. I considered myself more like a mechanic, I guess, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1811.3,1818.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you read the things that you were printing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1819.01,1821.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, all the time! Yeah, and you know, we've printed a lot of like, Marxist rantings and the sociology stuff just. I mean, we would laugh about it. I don't even want to tell you what we would call some of the poetry we read, but we had a name for it, which was, \"My cunt is like a Cyprus garden\" poetry. All of the women who worked there were, sort of, of a like mind, and so we would kind of make fun of people as we printed the stuff, but we printed it, and we did a good job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1821.54,1856.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What were the finances like at a press? How did that work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1858.91,1866.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Well, a lot of us worked second jobs. Sometimes we could make it all work, and sometimes we couldn't. I worked as a cab driver because Terminal Taxi was right next to— I think there's a restaurant there now. It was right next to Growers Market, so I would work as a cab driver sometimes and as a janitor. Then, yeah, Jane helped support the press, so that was really good. We had, sort of, some regular jobs, regular university jobs that we would do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1867.35,1912.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then elections were great because we were a union shop, so we would print a lot of that kind of stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1913.7,1919.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But yeah, we read it all. We printed stuff for the Weather Underground. We printed stuff. We printed things that we weren't supposed to know who brought it in the door. We printed poetry. I designed and printed, with some other people, a comic book or graphic novel called A Few Easy Questions, which was all about what to do if the grand jury calls you, which was starting to happen. I brought some of the galleys. I don't actually have a copy of it anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1919.89,1951.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the coolest thing about Jackrabbit and about being there was that everything came over the transom. Just the whole gamut of you know, from women herbalists and midwives and kung fu, you know, the kung fu girls? You name it, we did it, and yeah, we did it. When you're standing at a press, you read the stuff, if nothing else, to see, to make sure it looks okay, and also, because it can be really boring sitting at a press, and then you get to, you know, you read it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1955.67,1992.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you print Midwifery Today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1993.77,1995.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No, I don't think we did that, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1998.08,1998.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did Adrienne Rich find Jackrabbit Press?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=1998.86,2001.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: You know, I don't know how she found it. It wasn't her. We never dealt with her. We dealt with somebody else, but years later, I actually was in Nicaragua with her and Lucy Lippard, I don't know if you know who Lucy Lippard is, she was like a— We got invited down as feminist artists to speak to the artists' union that was forming in Nicaragua. This was in '83, and I said, \"Do you remember me? I printed your book,\" and she was like, \"Oh, yeah! I heard that a print shop out in Oregon printed it.\" I don't even think she really knew that it was. I don't know how— I mean, I read a lot of poetry now and love it. At the time, I didn't know whether she was known. I didn't know any of these people, whether they were just walking in because they had some forms they wanted to print or whether they were famous or anything. Honestly, when I think back on it now, we were probably not the print shop that should've printed these things. I mean, we were a really low-level print shop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2002.24,2073.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The biggest thing we could print was seventeen by twenty-two, which is about yea big. If you're printing a book, you want to print it on big web presses, usually. But I think people just wanted to support us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2073.9,2087.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. How long did Jackrabbit last?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2088.11,2091.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I left in early '76 and went up to Seattle. They were going to run it, Reddick and Jane, and I don't know who else was still there, maybe Kendra. I worked, I just found work as a printer, just in straight shops. About a year later, Jane called me and asked me if I wanted to buy the presses back because they'd paid me a little bit for my stuff if I wanted to buy them back, so I said, \"Okay.\" I bought them back and started a print shop in Seattle called Store Front Press, another women's press. I did that from late '76 or early '77 till like 1980, I think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2091.78,2145.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you print there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2149.32,2150.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Again, everything, and we printed a lot of, I'd gotten really involved in anti-racist work. I was working with a lot of groups, both out of the International District Community, which is mostly Asian, and KDP, which is a Filipino rights organization. The Boldt Decision was happening then. We were doing a lot of Native rights stuff. The Boldt Decision had happened, but there was a lot of Native organizing around fishing rights. We were doing a lot less sort of women-oriented and a lot more sort of straight lefty printing at that point. We also did a lot of printing for— We started getting people walking in. I got known as a— Back then, if you were a designer, and this is before computers, right? If you were a designer back then, and you wanted to create something fairly complex, you had to know a good stripper, and I was known as a good stripper in that I could figure out how to put the layers of negatives together to create what a designer wanted to create. We started getting these young designers coming in, and I would work with them to create what they wanted. I was really jazzed by that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2150.44,2233.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In, I think, late '79 or early '80, but we're getting ahead of Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2236.44,2240.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, did you stay in touch with people in Eugene once you left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2240.44,2244.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: A little bit. I stayed in touch with Reddick a lot, but my girlfriend in Eugene, Liz Hoadley, who's now in Berkeley, she went by Betsy then, she and I moved up to Seattle together, and we basically stayed together to move. I had an old '57 Chevy Nomad station wagon, and we tied mattresses. It was like we looked like Okies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2244.89,2275.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Went up to Seattle, and we broke up, literally, a week after we got there. She's a dear friend today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2275.31,2284.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A lot of sort of what I was leaving behind came with me, but we had some great— so a lot of the people, Florence Buckley, I don't know if that name's come up, a lot of people were moving out of Eugene right then, and for reasons, they wanted to go and do more hardcore organizing. Left organizing. I think at that point, the lesbian community was sort of morphing out of the, you know, \"I am lesbian, hear me roar!\" and into integration into sort of straight politics or regular left politics. At least—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2285.58,2323.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Here in Eugene, a lot of the energy went into the anti-gay measures. It was still gay-focused, but with a different kind of protesting and organizing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2323.5,2332.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, so I stayed a little bit in touch with just hearing about Shoshanna through Connie and through Jane, who were friends of hers. You know, I would come back occasionally, but sometimes when you come back to places, you know, you've left them, and I had left it, by that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2332.43,2357.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you stay with printing throughout the rest of your career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2358.77,2361.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No, I did not. In '80, I think, I decided I really wanted out of printing, partly because I would hold up a rag with benzene in it and go, \"Is this water or benzene?\" and I thought, Well, I probably better get out of this before my brain is completely gone. One of the women that I'd hired in my print shop developed brain cancer and died at the age of forty. I had been printing for these designers, and this one guy I'd been printing with really encouraged me to— I did a lot of posters and things, and I was terrible. I was just horrible, and he encouraged me to get some training as a designer. I started taking classes, night classes, in design for one semester and I met another person in one of these classes who said, \"Why don't you come? We need help on this music magazine.\" I went, and I did paste-up, and a week later, I was Assistant Art Director, which meant I made $1.10 an hour or something. But as it turned out, the music magazine was The Rocket, and it was at the very beginning of the Seattle music scene, so The Rocket was extraordinarily influential in the bands and stuff. My design, I was kind of a cookie designer, but it got noticed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2361.92,2463.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then I worked a couple of other straight design jobs and then in '89, a friend who I'd actually printed with early on, was in New York at The Village Voice, and called me up and said, \"Come to The Village Voice. I need an art director.\" One of the reasons I went there, to backtrack back, is that in 1977, right after I started the second print shop, I bought an Apple IIe. I was the first person to ever have a computer, and it came with a little book that said, \"How to Program Your New Computer,\" because there was no operating system yet, so I taught myself how to program it. One of my jobs at The Voice was to basically drag the editorial staff, kicking and screaming, into the computer age, because they had still been doing hot type up to that point. So I worked there, and I did that. I got offered another job in New York, at a couple of mainstream mags, and I worked there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2463.85,2540.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was your experience in the lesbian scene in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2540.31,2544.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: It was fun. I had a girlfriend there that I just think of as my New York girlfriend. She worked at The Voice as well, and she was big into softball, she was like a softball— so we really got into the whole softball scene, and gay games happened in New York when I was there. That was a big deal. There were a lot of clubs. It was a lot of fun. A lot of dancing and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2544.96,2572.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What year is that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2572.82,2575.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: '90, '91, '92, and '93, and part of '94.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2575.37,2580.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And was the AIDS epidemic, did it impact you at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2580.09,2584.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, yeah. Yeah, two men I worked with at The Voice both died in the time I was there. I first knew about it in like— a boyfriend I'd had in high school was in the Bay Area and was gay. We'd stayed in touch a little bit, and he was dancing at some club. I ran into him in like, I think '76 or '77, down in the Castro, and he looked like shit. There were signs, posters on windows, saying that they thought a gay cancer— if you thought you knew anyone who had had gay cancer because still, they thought it was poppers. Remember those? I mean they—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2585.03,2642.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Mm-hmm [affirmative], mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2642.77,2643.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: And Gary, I remember thinking, \"Man!\" You know? Then Gary died, probably a year later. That was my first inkling that something was up, and then of course, as we all know. So, yeah. It was disastrous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2643.73,2662.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Because ACT UP was very, very—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2662.41,2664.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah. ACT UP was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2664.74,2666.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: —influential right then—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2666.85,2667.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah. I went to, in fact, when Bill Clinton was elected, I was at an ACT UP party to celebrate that. Was it? Yeah, it was one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2667.51,2681.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so yeah, it was huge. It was a huge deal then. I brought, actually, a couple of The Voice covers I did, because I got all the queer covers, and every queer cover I got, it would be this huge fight about showing a woman on it. So I always had to come up with a woman that could be mistaken for a gay man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2682.08,2699.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why was it like that? Why couldn't there be a woman on it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2701.74,2703.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Because— Oh, why, sexism, maybe? But the common belief then among the editorial powers that be, was that men would get the paper, but women wouldn't, that women would buy it, regardless of who was on it, but men couldn't see themselves in a lesbian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2703.04,2721.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. It's like Saturday morning cartoons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2721.17,2725.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, sort of, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2725.64,2729.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What brought you back West?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2729.79,2731.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I had a house here, and I had been offered a really good job in New York, and so I decided, Well, I'm just going to sell the house and move back to New York. But while I was here, so I came back here, and I took a job as the art director for the Seattle Weekly while I was— Just to bide my time. In the course of that, my relationship, the woman I'd been seeing in New York, took up with someone else. I decided, \"Well, I can stay longer. It's not a big—\" It was a huge deal, but not that big a deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2733.7,2775.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got offered a job because I'd been working with computers and the kind of geek thing. I got a call from this person I knew saying, \"You know all these chat rooms that exist now, and stuff like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2779.99,2794.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, there's this thing like the Internet, and we're looking right now. Engineers are designing it, and that's not going to work for us. We hear you know something about computers. Can you come out?\" I went out to Bellevue and interviewed with Paul Allen, and I got offered a job as a creative director at Starwave, was what it was called, and I designed and built almost all of the major sports sites.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2794.13,2824.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a bizarre trajectory. Trust me, I know! So I did NBA, Major League Baseball, NFL Draft, and NASCAR, my personal favorite, and then—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2826.25,2845.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you do with them? What did you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2845.45,2847.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I built them. I built the sites with engineers, and I taught myself how to code HTML, but mostly because I had a design sense. I didn't look like— I mean, you have to remember what the Internet looked back in like 1994, you know? It looked pretty bad, and the way that HTML code worked was very crude, and there was very little you could do with it, and everything you could do was basically a hack. Basically, we figured out how to hack and make things. In the course of that, we figured out some of the things that have gone into the W2 and the people that actually set the standards for the code, which of course, now is wonderful and will continue to evolve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2848.46,2898.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then, Starwave got bought by Disney, so suddenly I was a creative director at Disney. Disney was also in the process of buying ABC, so then I got asked to become the creative director for ABC News Online, which would be one of the first broadcast entities to go with the Internet and with an online presence. I moved back to New York, and by that time, I was in a relationship with a woman I'm still in a relationship with today, my partner. We both moved back there. She was the general manager, and I was the creative director, and then our boss was the Grand Poobah, so it was run by three women in the early days, which was really great, and then, of course, men discovered that there was value in it, which I always think was like, \"You gave Oklahoma to the Indians, and then you found oil.\" Oops! That's the trajectory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2899.56,2970.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And then you came back West again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2970.96,2973.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2973.13,2974.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Was that to retire, or another job?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2974.89,2976.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No, in 2000, I had— Living in New York City, unless you're extraordinarily wealthy or very, very young is, and I don't know if anybody's— it’s a tough place to live. It's a wonderful, exciting place to live, but it's also— I was neither of those by that point. We both really wanted to kind of come back. We went on a vacation and discussed it, and I came back, and I went to Katherine, my boss, and I said, \"I'm going to quit.\" She said, \"You can't quit because I'm quitting,\" which was huge because, yeah. Katherine Dillon has won a million Emmys. She's great. She and I formed a partnership business, and until 2012, we were just a small design firm and we did digital design for like CNN and a lot of media stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=2976.11,3036.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And you could do that anywhere? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3036.74,3038.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Exactly. On the Internet, nobody knows who you are. She lives in New York, so she was the catcher and I was the effector.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3038.46,3050.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And where do you live now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3051.31,3052.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I live on Vashon Island.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3053.1,3054.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3054.59,3055.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yes. When I met Mary, we actually met in Seattle in '94 when I came back, and she lived in this little shack on the water, like this crappy little shack. I had this house still, which I didn't sell, in Columbia City in Seattle. But staying at her place, it was tiny, and whenever it rained, the roof leaked. But she loved living on the water. She moved into my house, but we decided we really needed a place that was both our places rather than— she really wanted to live on the water. We've both been incredibly fortunate financially, but not that fortunate. Not Seattle waterfront fortunate, so we started looking on Vashon, which was a lot cheaper then because people hadn't really discovered it. We found this place on Fern Cove, this beautiful little cove. Mary is a scientist and a writer, and she's written books that are almost primarily to do with water, and they're making a documentary of one of her books right now, which is really cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3056.0,3133.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What's the book?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3133.57,3133.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: The book is called An American River. She grew up in New Jersey on the Passaic River, which starts out as this pristine, beautiful kind of wooded place, and it ends up as the second-largest Super Fund site in the country. It's a good book. It's a great read!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3133.75,3151.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Who's making the documentary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3151.38,3154.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I can't— The guy's name is Scott somebody, and he does things for PBS, so right now, she'll be back there. She's leaving Sunday, and they're shooting. Like you shoot something, and then you take it around to all of the money people, I guess, so that's what they're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3155.89,3169.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And are you retired?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3169.89,3172.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I am now. I retired in 2012. One of my big clients was the Ford Foundation, so I kept them and a couple of other clients I liked a lot, and decided that my giveback would be doing digital media for non-profits who couldn't afford it, so that's my giveback now. Then I've been doing art, and last year, I did this really cool thing, which was I got asked to be the artist-in-residence at the engineered biology department at the University of Washington, which was so cool. Also frightening. But it's the people, I mean they're trying to figure out how to make pesticide-less crops and things like that. All their hearts are totally in the right place, and then the University sells their stuff to Monsanto. I just got asked to like hang out with them for a couple of quarters and do a piece of art and give lectures to the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3172.67,3243.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of art?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3244.01,3245.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I've been doing these little machines. I've been doing two things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3245.91,3248.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, one of the things I've been doing is painting older lesbians, and I just had a show of thirty-five paintings— I can show you some— of portraits of older lesbians, because I was walking through the Met in New York one day, and I was walking through some hall, and it was just like painting after painting after painting of some old white guy you didn't know who it was, and I thought, \"Wouldn't it be cool to see like a hallway?\" I mean, it's like, you didn't have to know who they were or anything. It was up at the Vashon Center for the Arts during June. It was really cool, and then I just gave every painting to the person it was of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3248.81,3287.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the other stuff I've been doing is my geek side. I did a sculpture called “The Machine for Accelerated Extinction,” and it's paintings of endangered animals, and it's run on a little Arduino. Do you know what Arduino is? Arduino's like a little microprocessor that you can make do many things. It has a little camera that registers your presence and will start a machine that then basically erases each painting. Your presence, in looking at this painting of an endangered animal, contributes to the further endangerment of the animal. It's a bitter and ironic statement, or something. I can't remember it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3289.41,3333.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the thing I did for the University was— If I get too geeky here, just, you know. There's this really cool thing called Lindenmayer systems that is all about the logic of branching systems. When you're doing genetic biology, one of the things you look for is how plants branch, and plants branch in specific algorithms. It's very cool, so the patterns that any plant does, but it's a pattern that also echoes itself everywhere in nature. I created this sculpture of a root thing because I was thinking about how when you genetically engineer something, and you have plants that are in constant communication with each other, which they are, when you genetically engineer one of these plants, does that basically create a different language, and do the plants then have to learn each other's new language? This root system is going down, and I wrote a series of algorithms that created animations where I would just change one variable, and the algorithm, the branching system would change radically. There's a video of it I can show you. So it's kind of cool just because this idea I had was that trees talk to each other, plants talk to each other, but if you're planning something that you've changed the basic molecular makeup of, what are the ramifications down the line?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3334.1,3433.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: The portraits that you've done have you photographed them so you can print them or put them in a book or something like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3433.85,3444.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah. Uh-huh [affirmative]. Uh, no, I haven't done that. I guess I saw them as sort of— I had a really good friend, a dear friend who died a few years ago, and I had painted a portrait of her many years ago. She had been a cook all her life, and I painted a portrait of her where she's at the stove in this café where she worked. She was just this beloved woman in the lesbian community in Seattle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3444.94,3475.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At her memorial service— I had never signed it, I just painted it, because I would paint friends. It was up on the stage and her partner, everybody that was in her family who she'd been really estranged from, not in her taken family, but her biological family, everybody wanted that portrait. It didn't matter who painted it. It was that it became this legacy object. I was thinking, it's like most of us, many of us, don't have children, and we're the dotty aunties of the world. We're the crazy and interesting aunts of the world. I love this idea of each woman having like a legacy object that would somehow pass down. The painter would be forgotten, but the person that it was of, you know? Because I have paintings of people or photographs that are dear to me, and they keep those people alive for me as well. That's what was kind of the thinking behind it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3477.38,3544.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: The reason I would like to see a book is just thinking about old lesbians as a genre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3544.25,3550.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah, that's true!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3550.3,3552.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: As a thing, and in doing these interviews, we're thinking about that too. Wondered what you think about aging as a lesbian, what that means to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3552.39,3560.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, it's interesting. It's the adventure in aging. I think we get more beautiful in our wisdom, and we let things go more, so in that sense, I think there's an easiness to the women I know now that we sometimes didn't have before, an easiness among ourselves. I think that one of the things I worry about is I've been fairly fortunate in my life. I would say over half my friends are not, and it's going to be tenuous old age. I think that worries me a lot because women don't make as much money. They save less. They have less Social Security. One of the things I know has been talked about, but I've talked about with friends, is I've had friends move to Montana just because it's cheaper to live there. You know, how to navigate that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3560.84,3634.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, you go through co-housing, and also, how to navigate extreme old age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3635.98,3643.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right now, it's for I'm sixty-five, it's sort of the gravy years. I think the next ten years will be pretty free and easy, but A, that's not true for everyone. I think these are also the years we have to figure out how we're going to move into a place where we're going to be more dependent. We all joke about it now, but the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3644.07,3670.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Does it worry you as a lesbian to be vulnerable in old age?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3670.49,3677.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No, I don't think it does. I understand why a lot of women would, I think. I have never felt powerless, so I don't think I would bring that into it, and of course, it might happen. Who knows?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3678.42,3701.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would be the ideal situation for you when you're seventy- five, eighty-five?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3701.85,3708.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Oh, to fix up part of the house as a separate living quarters and have a beautiful young lesbian I could just look at. Help the both of us in and out of the tub. How about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3708.98,3724.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You're not the first to have dreamt that one up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3724.61,3729.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: You asked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3729.75,3733.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Is there some part of your life or some topic that we haven't covered that you would like covered?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3733.36,3742.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: That's interesting. Women's houses, I think, are really interesting, and I've lived in women's houses here and in Seattle. That was very much part of that era, I think. I mean most of us went to live independently or with partners, later on, but in that particular era, I think it was a way of sort of building community and having— because we weren't just lesbians, we were also still young, and when you're young, you don't know. You're still figuring stuff out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3744.27,3787.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a way of sort of easing into the independent and to free- range adulthood, I think, in a way that made it really easy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3790.48,3799.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I lived with various women, and we would have these strange and wonderful adventures. We'd take off for the coast, or whatever, and it became kind of a home to come. For me, it was important because I had very little immediate family, so my brother was killed in an accident while I lived in Eugene. My mom died, my father died in that time, and then my mother died shortly after I left Eugene. I have no other immediate family, really. Those women's houses really provided a sense of home, I think, in a way that was really, really important to me. I think one of the things that guided me in a good way, and also in a bad way, was always a search for home. It made me needy in relationships sometimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3799.31,3875.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, thinking about young people, if you were to think about, from the position that you are now and having lived the very rich life you've lived, would you have advice for young people who might be watching this soon or maybe even in fifty years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3875.65,3895.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah. Sometimes I think that young people have bought into some kind of track that they have to be on. They have to go to college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3897.32,3904.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They have to do this. I had none of those things, but what I did do was just be fearless, and I think the thing I would say is be fearless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3904.32,3916.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am like the most obnoxious autodidact you've ever met. I don't regret any lack of advanced schooling, but I think that— Just go out and do the things. Don't worry too much about learning them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3916.1,3938.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Learn on the job. Learn as you do, because A, things are constantly changing, and anything you learn is going to be different by the time you get to it. Also, do stuff because you want to do it. I honed my chops as an artist by doing absolutely dreadful art for The Women's Press. Do it because you believe in it. I think one of the things I see is there's not this sense that you need to embrace everything in front of you. I think people feel sometimes that they, I don't know, maybe they're scared or something, and I worry about that. I worry that they've boxed themselves in too narrowly. I guess that would be my advice to them, which honestly if I had kids, I'm not sure I'd send them to college. I'm not sure it's worth taking on that kind of money anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=3938.55,4001.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Any advice about relationships?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4003.59,4004.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Oh, man. Mary and I are into our twenty-fourth year. We're kind of wildly different, but we are intellectual equals, and I think that that's super important because the things that draw you to somebody early on, the lust and all the other things, it's cliché, but later on, it really becomes— like sometimes we joke we're just sister wives to our house. Really. Finding somebody that you can discuss things on sort of a level where you have a certain shorthand is really important, because I've been in relationships with people smarter than me, and I've been in relationships with people where I felt bad all the time because it just felt not right, not equal or something. I think that that's super important, but that's just me. I think for other people it might be different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4005.68,4084.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you have anything to say to gay kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4084.32,4086.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Gay kids. Man, they're flexible these days. I think it's great. A kid of— he's not gay, but his mothers are gay— told me, because I was telling him, \"You know, kids are so flexible,\" and he said, \"Well, they are, and they aren't. You wouldn't believe the number of kids that call themselves. They say, ‘I'm queer,’ and all that means is that they're in a straight relationship.\" Okay. But I don't know. I think that's good. I worry, I do. I mean, we came of age in a remarkable time, and where we were really, in many ways, free, and I know that many people have had serious issues with their families in coming out and terrible things happen to them, but all in all, historically, I think that it was really a time of great freedom for my generation. I think that that fruit is being born out in how a lot of young people see themselves, but I worry about what's coming down the road. I mean, I think that we live in frighteningly, increasingly religious society, so I worry for them. I can't tell you how many times I think, \"Boy, glad I'm old,\" because I really, I do worry, as I'm sure most people do right now that I know, anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4087.24,4189.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: But you were up against the State too, if you think about the early '70s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4191.86,4194.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a box of Freedom of Information files to prove it, where in many of them, I'm ignominiously referred to as, \"Subject's girlfriend,\" but, hey. I was dangerous, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4194.79,4216.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, thank you very much. This has been—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4219.93,4221.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yes, thanks!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4221.43,4221.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: —such a pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4221.89,4222.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, yeah, it was interesting. I hope— I don't feel like I gave you very much on Eugene, but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4222.19,4229.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4229.05,4229.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you want to talk more about Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4229.28,4230.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No, I can't really— my problem is statute of limitations— I mean, I don't really remember that much more than I've told you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4230.81,4238.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: I do actually have a question for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4238.41,4240.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4240.77,4240.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did Jackrabbit Press have anything to do with The Women's Press?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4240.89,4244.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: No, mm-mm [negative]. They were really two separate entities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4245.48,4247.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oh, two separate things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4247.8,4247.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yeah, because they printed on a web press. They were newsprint.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4248.0,4251.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Uh-huh [affirmative], okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4251.93,4252.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Actually, they printed at a print shop that I think was not far from Starflower. I don't think it's there anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4252.96,4262.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4263.11,4263.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: [Big Wood Press 01:11:04].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4263.48,4265.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4265.07,4265.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: I worked with—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4265.45,4266.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: —advertise in The Women's Press?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4266.18,4266.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thompson: Yes, we did. We advertised in The Women's Press. I drew things and wrote things for them. The one person I remember from The Women's Press is Laurie McClain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4266.37,4276.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4276.54,4276.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387#t=4276.7,4276.8"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56188/file/130387/transcript/92618/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/618/original/837_Coll520_do058_aligned.vtt?1776852378","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/618/original/837_Coll520_do058_aligned.vtt?1776852378"}]}]}]}