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And today is May 14 [2023]. I am interviewing Ellen Maddex at her home in Eugene, Oregon. Ellen, could you tell me a little bit about where you grew up and your family background? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was born in Chicago. My family moved to Atlanta when I was about ten because of my father's business. And I lived in Atlanta both through public school and I went to college at what was then Georgia State College. And I didn't know activism whatsoever so long as my parents continued to live in Atlanta. When they moved back to Chicago before my senior year in college, it gave me more latitude to do the things I believed in. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=37.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How would you describe your parents on a political spectrum, from conservative to liberal? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=103.0,111.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would say pretty middle of the road. Atlanta was a very racist place to live when I was growing up there in the fifties and into the early sixties. My family was certainly less racist than real Southerners. I describe my family as carpetbaggers. Our maid, my mother had a full-time aide who worked every weekday in our home. Which I believed fervently, later on, it was a terrible way for me to grow up. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=111.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she was African American, the maid? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=168.0,170.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course. It was Atlanta. Emma Sue would eat dinner—if my father was gone, and there was a reason for her to eat at the table with us in the kitchen, she did. She didn't normally stay 'til the dinner hour. She taught me to drive, she did a whole lot of things. She taught me more about cooking certain things than my mother did. Although she didn't cook for us normally. But we were, my sister and I were, very close to her and respected her a great deal. She should have been doing—she should have had an occupation that used her brain power more. She was an incredibly smart woman. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=170.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right. And were your parents religious?\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=246.0,252.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, my parents weren't religious. They were very committed to being Jewish, but we certainly never had a kosher home. When my grandmother came to live with us, she kept kosher for herself. We didn't like to, the rest of the family. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=252.0,274.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you weren't raised in a temple then and part of a congregation? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=274.0,279.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We belonged to a temple. We belong to a conservative temple that when my father had business reverses, we kept our country club membership longer than we kept our synagogue membership. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=279.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A country club is kind of like being, what do we call them today, a paper membership or somebody who gives money to the Sierra Club. But they're not active in any way? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=300.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, the country club that we belong to was the cheapest Jewish country club in Atlanta. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=312.0,323.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I got it— yeah. Yeah, I got it. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=323.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It did not have a golf course, so my father said it was really a city club, not a country club. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=326.0,333.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=333.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But It gave us a place to use a swimming pool, to have good meals, good dinners. And I guess it was good for my dad, business wise. I don't know at this point. And I certainly didn't know as a kid. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=334.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just for the record again, what was your father's occupation? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=359.0,363.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My father was, when we lived in Atlanta, he was the manufacturer's representative for a carpet company in Dalton, Georgia, which belonged to my uncle. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=363.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, okay. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=380.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he later on represented furniture manufacturers.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=381.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And your mother? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=389.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My mother—at one point during that period of financial reverses, my mother worked as a stenographer, which she did before she married my father. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=393.0,410.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. And so she had some training. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=410.0,414.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. She had been stenographer when she was younger. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=414.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. And what happens when you—well, yeah, let's talk a little bit about Georgia State and when did you graduate from Georgia State? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=417.0,432.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I graduated—I went, I must have started in '60. I graduated from college in three years because I went to summer school, and I was able to finish college in three years. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=432.0,460.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we were exposed—well, the anti-Vietnam War movement really doesn't get off the ground 'til '64, '65.\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=460.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I knew nothing about Vietnam. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=467.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. But were—in terms of the threat of nuclear war and the Cuban Missile Crisis and so forth, was that something that you were paying attention to in your undergrad years? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=475.0,490.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was hard not to. And, um, I wasn't the only—there was a picket line in front of Georgia State College, across the street, during the Cuban Missile Crisis [November 1963]. And that was the first active action I ever took personally. I was the only student from Georgia State that joined the picket line, and it made me notorious. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=490.0,535.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because you took that step and stepped out and joined that picket line. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=535.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Walked across the street and did it. And I was a white girl. And most everybody on that picket line, to my knowledge, came from the Atlanta University Complex. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=540.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is a historically black college? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=559.0,562.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it is a complex of colleges. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=562.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. There's multiple colleges there. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=565.0,567.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Morehouse, Spelman, Atlanta University. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=567.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. So that was kind of something you came out around nuclear weapons and opposition to nuclear weapons. But simultaneously, it kind of crossed into civil rights because most of the protesters were African American. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=572.0,594.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And I was aware, early in my teens, [of] the immorality of segregation and the horrible difference in the way Black people were treated and White people were treated. And I knew it was wrong. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=594.0,626.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you? What was your major in college? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=626.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Political science. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=630.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were there any professors that you really gravitated towards, because of that issue of civil rights? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=631.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, to my knowledge, my professors were not activists. But they certainly, I'm sure, were liberal. Most of my history professors, my philosophy professor, sociology professor, and political science professor. It was—I guess, there was not—there was action in Atlanta because Martin Luther King's office, the SLC [Southern Leadership Conference] office, was right across the street of us. And the whole situation with being in an almost totally White school was—well, there was the incidence of [Martin Luther] King's staff coming across the street to Georgia State to eat lunch. Because it was probably the cheapest, decent place to eat that was that close. And a lot of staff members were coming across the street at one point, and the college did not want to be integrated that way. I can't remember if the single Black student that was there in my last year, came before them or after. 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I was firmly convinced at age twenty, that—if the conflict weren't resolved, I wasn't ever going to be twenty-one. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=784.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And it was an era in which particularly the threat of nuclear war and ongoing racial conflict, you know, many young people saw this as a very precarious moment in history. 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It would have been fewer had I not met Jack. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1035.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Your husband, Jack Maddex. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1043.0,1046.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My husband, Jack Maddex. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1046.0,1048.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who was in the history department. He was getting a graduate degree also. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1048.0,1054.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was getting a branch. He was getting his doctorate. I was getting an MA. (throat clearing) I'm sorry, I'm hoarse. It's pollen. And we met at a graduate student mixer, and we started seeing each other at CORE meetings, the Congress of Racial Equality. Because civil rights was a big issue in Chapel Hill at the time. And I wanted to be involved. 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Well, what people were involved in was attempting to get a public accommodation ordinance that said people cannot be refused entrance to a business because of their skin color. And the action that was to be taken that weekend was closing off the main intersection in Chapel Hill, which were two major state highways that intersected there. And it was a street sit-down. And I sat in the street and Jack sat out in the street and sixty, seventy odd other people sat in the street. And it was passive resistance. I was scared to death because I watched some crazy man dragging Jack out of the street by his feet, or by his arms, I don't remember now. I was so scared for Jack, that I did not know, and was told by friends later, that a car had pulled up to within a foot of my back but stopped. I was too scared for Jack to even know that that was happening. We were carried out of the street by police. And put into—we were told—a converted milk truck. And Southern girl that I was by that time, I put up my hand to the sheriff (laughs) standing by me. By that time I was walking, I was no longer carried. Because we were told not to passively resist, because we were getting injuries, getting into the truck. 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The idea was to pack the jails and we did. They put all the women in one cell. Or I don't know how many cells, but the cells were literally packed. And the jailer, who in the Orange County Jail, which was in—it wasn't in Chapel Hill. I can't remember the town. (sigh) The jailer was a sadist. And he opened the windows. It was wintertime. It was very cold. And he sprayed us, with insecticide, I believe. It was—I had on a wool sweater and blouse and a wool skirt. But there was an elderly lady, who was Black. Who was one of what were called the flower ladies, who are Black women who sold flowers on the street downtown. And I worried she was cold, so I gave her my coat. 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Did you get involved in anything around Vietnam at UNC? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1403.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We talked about what was happening and we knew it was wrong and stupid and nothing good about it. But I can't remember any actions then.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1418.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So your real engagement with the anti-war movement then starts when Jack gets a job at the University of Oregon. You moved to Eugene in 1966?\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1436.0,1451.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The summer before we moved, I had become a Head Start volunteer. And what I did, today would look absolutely shocking and appalling—what I did was go out into the countryside in our car and pick up children who didn't get on the buses, or whatever they were using then to transport children into Head Start. And I would carry shoes for kids or clothes. Find out why they didn't—why their parents didn't send them because it was felt so important for the kids to go. Today nobody will allow their kids to get in car with strangers. But I'm not a very intimidating looking person. And I would pick up the children. Now, I grew up in Atlanta, but that was when I really saw dire, dire poverty. It was shocking to me. The public health nurse gave strict orders to volunteers. Do not sit on any upholstered chairs in the slum. And I learned about privies and privies that where not maintained. 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And this was in Atlanta? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1578.0,1581.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"North Carolina. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1581.0,1582.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Atlanta. Okay. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1582.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"North Carolina. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1583.0,1584.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sorry, North Carolina. Okay, great. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1584.0,1587.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it was when Head Start was just beginning. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1587.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Head Start was part of the Office of Economic Opportunity, an agency that was created to wage a so-called war on poverty. But then you and Jack come to Eugene in '66. What is kind of your entree point to the anti-war movement when you're in Eugene? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1592.0,1615.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we heard about it. And, I'm trying—I don't think there was a Saturday market that soon. I think, I can't remember when, the year, Saturday market began. But we heard that there was a vigil. And we joined the vigil. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1615.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you joined that vigil. And am I correct that that was organized by the women's— \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1646.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"WILPF came later, I think. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1653.0,1656.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Women's International League for Peace and Freedom? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1656.0,1659.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, that's correct. I can't remember which was first. If the WILPF representative came before the vigil was organized or after. But I know that we started going to the vigil very soon after we came here. Because, well, I was pregnant when we got here. And the people we vigilled with, became the center of our social life. They became our friends. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1659.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they were predominantly young people and other families with small children. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1709.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Or young couples with or without children.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1716.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you become— \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1725.0,1729.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But not exclusively because—there were other peace activists who had been peace activists all their lives. Like the Selmans, Carolyn and Lembke Selmanson (??), who are older than us and they were farmers. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1729.0,1751.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were the Grays also part of the vigil? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1751.0,1755.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't remember, offhand, but certainly Leslie and Charles were peace activists. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1755.0,1765.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, what organization do you find your way to through the vigil? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1765.0,1777.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eventually WILPF, but I can't remember exactly— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1777.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Women's International League for—\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1781.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peace and Freedom. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1782.0,1784.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—Peace and Freedom. Right. You can't remember the exact date that that occurred? That's okay. And through the Women's International League of Peace and Freedom, what else is going on besides the vigil in Eugene? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1784.0,1802.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we used to do potluck dinners for fundraisers. We never raised a lot, but we did raise, we'd get other people to come and pay minimal amounts. We did various things. The most enjoyable thing we did was when Dr. Spock came here. And we organized a Peace Mommies for Dr. Spock demonstration [February 1968] at the airport. In the good old days when nobody thought about hijackings, so you could go into airports. And this mob of young mothers with their toddlers and infants, all carrying signs and balloons and everything, went to the airport to welcome Dr. Spock. And he absolutely loved it. Beth Deutsch knew Dr. Spock, because he had been their pediatrician when they were at Case Western Reserve. And Dr. Spock leaned over to Beth and told her that Andy Warhol was on the flight with him. And Andy Warhol looked around the terminal, sees all of these women and kids greeting Dr. Spock, and here that there was nobody meeting him. It was a very funny situation. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1802.0,1930.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, tell me more about the activities of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. They—a broader anti-war movement is evolving in Eugene, certainly by '66, '67. And WILPF was continuing with these vigils, I presume. What else were they involved in? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1930.0,1958.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, a lot of us became tax resisters. And there was this special tax—not much money at all added on to your telephone bill that was supposed to help pay for the war. And a lot of us decided we'd refuse to pay that amount of checks. And it was a pittance. We continued to pay our federal income tax, knowing that if we refused we could get in trouble, but they weren't going after us physically for the telephone tax. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=1958.0,2018.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you organized others to similarly not pay their telephone tax as a way of protesting the war? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2018.0,2026.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it was also a publicity thing. And there were people in that group who did counseling for men who had—their draft numbers put them in great jeopardy. And there was a lot of counseling by certain members. I never did it because I—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2026.0,2054.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But members of WILPF would be doing draft counseling as well as an activity like the tax resistance? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2054.0,2064.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, some may have been doing it, but—I'm trying to remember what other action we'd done. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2064.0,2083.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because it is true that the university starts a so-called Draft Information Center in, I believe, this was in '67, late '67, early '68. And so you probably in some ways were hooked up with that. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2083.0,2105.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wasn't personally but I knew people. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2105.0,2108.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People in WILPF were. And what is the— \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2108.0,2117.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We organized. There was a picket line at Valley River about the draft. And a group of us got arrested. Jack and I both got arrested. And we had a young kid, and we made no provision. We weren't carrying much money with us, and we couldn't bail ourselves out. Fortunately, someone else who was older and smarter had cash with them. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2117.0,2151.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Valley River was a shopping center. Okay. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2151.0,2157.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The only one in this country built next to a river. Stupidly, because, it's not a good place for a shopping center and it actually violated subsequent Oregon land-use law, being along the river. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2157.0,2178.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So do you get bailed out after that particular protest, which is probably the oldest one you can remember, and nothing came of it because the courts—\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2178.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was an illegal arrest. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2191.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. The courts ruled favorably on your behalf. Yeah. How would you describe, you know, at '67, '68, your opposition to the war and kind of your rationale for opposing the war? Was it, this was the wrong war in the wrong place? Was it an unjust war? Did you see it as a colonial and imperial war that went against the very principles of which our nation was found? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2193.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All of the above. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2226.0,2227.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All of the above? Okay. (laughs) But you would say that by '67, '68, your views were firm and solidified and, you know, all your activity through WILPF was, what's the most effective way can we protest and bring this war to an end? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2227.0,2249.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was pretty much the most overwhelming thing in our lives, opposition to the war. Our kids, our little son, really grew up in that vigil—it was where he made a lot of friends, the other kids. And it was pretty much the focal point in our lives. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2249.0,2302.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the vigil was kind of a like an extended family, and everybody shared in common the fact that the war and protesting the war were so central? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2302.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It absolutely was. When we went to Washington [D.C.] The year we were on sabbatical in Chapel Hill, we took our kids with us to protest at Nixon's second inaugural, which was supposed to be the last march to end the war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2315.0,2342.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that would have been '73, I think, January of '73. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2342.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And our son would have been about six then. And he said to me, \"Mommy, how can there be a last march to end the war. There's always been a war in Vietnam.\" Because as far as he was concerned, there was always a war in Vietnam, because his parents were always protesting. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2347.0,2383.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just to step back for a minute, the Moratorium, which was in the fall of '69, was a national action in Washington, in San Francisco. But also there was moratoriums in hundreds of communities. And the whole idea was one day a month, no school, no business as usual, people don't go to work. And it's going to be a focus, you know, just on protesting the war. And do you remember that in October of 1969? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2383.0,2426.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember that there was one. I don't remember what I was doing, what I did. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2426.0,2434.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, Senator Morse spoke to a crowd of somewhere between four thousand and five thousand. But would you say by the time of the Moratorium [The Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam], you were aware that there's all this local anti-war activity, but it was loosely coordinated with different coalitions at the national level. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2434.0,2455.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I was aware of that. But there was so much going on all the time, that I don't remember everything individually. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2455.0,2470.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I understand. And because you had small children that, you know, kind of shaped the specific activities you could get involved in because you were invariably bringing your children along. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2470.0,2486.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And our kids would play together. When our kids were really little, we were in a different house, but we had a separate playroom. So it made it very easy for the meetings frequently to be at our house. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2486.0,2512.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, interesting. Because the kids had a separate room, and they could more or less take care of themselves and the meeting could go elsewhere in the house. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2512.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if they needed us, or if there was something going on that shouldn't be, we'd hear it. But it was a separate playroom. And this house has a separate playroom that's very, very large and was perfect for a large group of kids. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2520.0,2545.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then in the in the spring of 1970, there's a big controversy around ROTC [Reserve Officers' Training Corps]. In April of '70, the faculty narrowly vote to retain ROTC. Then several hundred students marched over to ROTC and do a lot of physical damage to the building. And hitherto most of the protest had been nonviolent until that point. And then that was going to be followed by—some students were going to be arrested for that physical damage at ROTC—then there's going to be a sit-in of several hundred students at the main administration building, Johnson Hall, and then the National Guard are going to be deployed. And were you staying away from all of that because of the small children? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2545.0,2606.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I didn't, I would never have brought the kids where there was any danger. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2606.0,2615.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I believe your husband, Jack, was involved in some of those. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2615.0,2620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't recall. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2620.0,2623.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. Okay. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2623.0,2624.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The violence I remember most was when Steve Deutsch's office was blown up. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2624.0,2633.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Prince Lucian Campbell Hall [October 1970]. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2633.0,2637.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Correct. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2637.0,2638.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And so that bombing you believe was directed at Steve Deutsch, who was another sociologist, and he was an activist in the anti-war movement. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2638.0,2656.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I never knew why his office was blown up. Steve Deutsch was not the kind of person one would think would attract violence. He was one of the most decent, sweet guys you would ever meet in your life. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2656.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I believe he was a Quaker and a pacifist. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2680.0,2683.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2683.0,2685.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he, you know, played a very major role in the evolving anti-war movement, had his name in the paper many times and was on radio shows and so forth. So I guess, likely to some, right-wing fanatics, that made him a target. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2685.0,2710.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know, because it could have been that was just where somebody decided to plant a bomb. We don't know who did it. Any time anybody's name is in the paper, it can get (??). And in the sixties it was a much smaller community. The first year of the vigil—the incident that I remember most about how the other people vigiling were our friends is, we decided to move out of our duplex into a separate house where we would have an extra room. And we gave notice to our landlord, and he said, \"Oh, the university is firing you, Mr. Maddex.\" Jack said, \"No,\" he said. He thought we were moving because Jack had been fired for speaking out on a free speech platform against the war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2710.0,2805.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Jack was going through his tenure process, I think, at this time. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2805.0,2810.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, no, it was only our first year. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2810.0,2813.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, you're very first year. Yeah, first year of faculty evaluation. Yeah. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2813.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So he was certainly not up for tenure then. But we were moving because we needed a bigger place. And we wanted a bigger place, not because Jack was being fired, but that was this man, our landlord's, take on our moving. Because it was a small community and at that time The Register-Guard reported on everything. Now it reports on nothing. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2820.0,2856.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(laughs) But it did acknowledge that protests were going on and sometimes got the quotes accurate of those who were opposed to the war. In just that same spring of 1970, Nixon invades Cambodia, and that would be in late April and early May, four students are gunned down at Kent State and, you know, hundreds of colleges are going to shut down. Classes were dismissed for three days at the University of Oregon after Kent State. 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So that predated that particular moment. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2919.0,2921.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, of course.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2921.0,2922.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Good. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2922.0,2923.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Good. I'm not that out of it. Of course. I think we all knew there was a national movement, but in the beginning, in '66, '67, '68, this was one of the hotter campuses for activism. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2923.0,2946.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2946.0,2948.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Things start in the west and move east usually. And start in the east and move west. And very little starts in the middle and moves out.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2948.0,2960.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And certainly the Oregon legislature became quite upset with many of the protest actions that were going on at the campus, and particularly after this professor, John Froines, who was a— \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2960.0,2978.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A good friend of ours. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2978.0,2981.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—a good friend of yours, and he had been in SDS [Students for a Democratic Society] when he was at graduate school at Yale. And then he got a job in the chemistry department at U of O [University of Oregon]. But then he helped organize the protests at the Democratic National Convention in 1960, August of '68. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=2981.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And—well, Jack had other friends there, possibly from Princeton.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3000.0,3010.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then you were part of kind of the support system that was around John Froines? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3010.0,3018.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. He was a friend. And I don't know how much support system we gave him. But we certainly were sympathetic, and we would have him given anything that we could if he needed it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3018.0,3038.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I think there was a whole group of faculty, like you, and the Deutsches, and the Zweigs, you know, who all kind of rallied around him. Let me ask you one other question. When, just backtracking a little bit, when Martin Luther King came out in opposition to the war, his famous speech in Riverside Church in the spring of '67, did that surprise you? Or was that something that only reinforced your opposition to the war? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3038.0,3078.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think we needed reinforcement from Dr. King. We agreed with him, but we didn't need that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3078.0,3094.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. Your views were pretty much solidified and mature, as it were, at that time, about the war?\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3094.0,3101.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3101.0,3103.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. And then this whole controversy over ROTC, where eventually the university does, the faculty do vote to no longer host and have ties to ROTC. Was that something that WILPF and some of the community groups were involved in? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3103.0,3128.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't remember anything personally. There was no love lost on my part about ROTC. Because when I picketed in Atlanta during the Cuban Missile Crisis, I was personally threatened, my own personal safety, by ROTC cadets. 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These were guys who were super patriots. But they all complained about having to go on active duty if there were a war. And I thought they were a bunch of ugly hypocrites. You know, it takes a great deal of bravery to have a bunch of big guys threaten one five-foot tall girl. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3174.0,3217.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3217.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3221.0,3226.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Marty Bennett, instructor of history, Santa Rosa Junior College. And I am interviewing Ellen Maddox. Today's May 14, 2023, and this is the second part of our interview. Ellen, one of the things that happens is Women's International League for Peace and Freedom and other organizations like the Eugene Coalition to End the War, Citizens for a Sane Foreign Policy, incrementally become involved in electoral politics. And my understanding that the congressman in Eugene at that time, John Dellenback, was not very receptive to an anti-war message. But there was a campaign to pass a ballot initiative in the spring of 1970 where Eugene residents could oppose the war. And that did pass. But what I wanted to ask you about is another electoral campaign, and that is the McGovern campaign for president in 1971-72. Were you part of that? What do you remember about the McGovern campaign? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3226.0,3331.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't remember a whole lot about how it. I remember more about '68 because we were supporters of, not of Bobby Kennedy, but his— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3331.0,3358.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eugene McCarthy?\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3358.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had a McCarthy daisy on our car. And of course we remember that supposedly the very first [election] Kennedy lost, any Kennedy lost, was in Oregon, when Bobby lost. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3360.0,3386.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. That was the spring of '68. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3386.0,3388.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was in '68. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3388.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you were supporting Eugene McCarthy. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3390.0,3393.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were McCarthy supporters then. We had a McCarthy daisy on our car. And do you remember the McCarthy daisies? \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3393.0,3404.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3404.0,3406.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were bumper stickers that were in the shape of daisies and they were very clever and they said McCarthy. And we had one on our car and we decided—I wanted to see an old hotel that was in um, oh, God, I hate forgetting names. Klamath Falls. And I wanted to see the Japanese internment camp down there. Because I had heard so much about it and I was afraid to go down. We did go down there, but I think we must have pulled off the McCarthy daisy because we knew we might have real problems down there because it's so right-wing and it still is. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3406.0,3465.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. But did you become involved in canvasing or other forms of activity around the McCarthy campaign? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3465.0,3477.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't remember, but in 1970, at the time of the election, I would have been eight and a half months, I would have been eight months pregnant. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3477.0,3497.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. (both laugh) So that could have limited your activity?\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3497.0,3504.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had a three-and-a-half-year-old and it limited my actions. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3504.0,3508.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But going back to the McGovern campaign, '71, '72. There was a good deal of support for McGovern amongst university students and faculty alike. And do you remember people coming to your door campaigning for McGovern? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3508.0,3529.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We probably had a lawn sign, so they wouldn't have bothered. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3529.0,3535.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um-hmm. And what were your thoughts about McGovern as a candidate and certainly as an outspoken opponent of the war? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3535.0,3545.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought he was a very good man. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3545.0,3549.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um-hmm. He was a historian, to boot. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3549.0,3551.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was an historian, which gave him far more perspective. And we should only have such good candidates today. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3551.0,3568.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, tell me a little bit about, well, two things. You mentioned one of your landlords was asking, did Jack get fired, which was not true. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3568.0,3588.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obviously not. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3588.0,3589.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But did the FBI ever come around to your house or were you aware of your phone being tapped? 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And I thought that they were asking me about Henley? \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3610.0,3665.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"International Monetary Fund, and here they were coming to ask an outspoken opponent of the war (laughs) about a more conservative neighbor.\n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3665.0,3676.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, this was considerably after the war, but I thought, you know, the FBI at my door asking me about somebody who was so much more conservative than me. It was really funny. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3676.0,3693.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But were you ever fearful that Jack might not get tenure because of his visibility and outspokenness as a faculty member against the war? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3693.0,3706.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know if I was worried or not. Jack had tenure before he was thirty. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3706.0,3714.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Which I think would have been—he got here in '66, '67, '68. So then he got tenure in '69 or '70. Yeah. Okay. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3714.0,3727.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I didn't spend a lot of time worried about it. The people we knew who did not get tenure, in Jack's—I don't know any of the anti-war activists who were denied tenure. John Froines was gone by that time.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3727.0,3751.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And he actually resigned, and he didn't have his—it wasn't that he didn't receive tenure. He just resigned before his tenure review came up. There was a leader of SDS, Irving Wainer, who was a post-doc, and they decided not to renew that contract that he was working on. 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There were very few pro-war faculty that I am aware of. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=3797.0,3814.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Though, the ROTC was narrowly retained by the faculty. I guess you could say it didn't mean they were necessarily pro-war. But I think certainly after Cambodia, most of the faculty had turned against the war. Let me ask you this, Ellen. After the war winds down in '74, '75, what kind of activities were you involved in? You obviously had made a lot of friends with people in the anti-war movement and were involved in a lot of networks. 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And we were raising kids and we—did not have the same level of activism as our friends who were Quakers. And I was doing other things. I was starting do things with the synagogue. 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Yes. I became involved again in the league and in environmental things. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4023.0,4032.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the league was doing, like, voter education? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4032.0,4038.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And land use planning which I took classes at night, adult classes at the university—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4038.0,4063.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you acquired expertise in land use planning? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4063.0,4070.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, some expertise. But I was very interested. And I was interested in community things, and I took part in various civic things. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4070.0,4088.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. And— \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4088.0,4091.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eugene is a community where people do those things. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4091.0,4101.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who feel a responsibility as a citizen to be engaged and informed. It indeed is. But more anti-nuclear work, what other kinds of environmental campaigns were you involved in? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4101.0,4118.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh. Later on I join the Housing Advisory Board for St Vinny, St. Vincent de Paul. Because St. Vincent de Paul is the second largest provider of affordable housing in the community after the housing authority here, the Lane County Housing Authority. And I became very, very interested in affordable housing. I took part in a study on that for the league. And I took part in other studies. Turn off the mic for a minute. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4118.0,4186.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So after the war, you were involved in affordable housing and land use planning. You were involved in the League of Women Voters. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4186.0,4201.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mainly in studies. I wasn't doing direct activism. I was working on studies and learning and I served on the state board of directors. But again, then we moved to Scotland, and I had to resign from all the boards on which I had belonged. And one of them, the most political of them, was the Morse Ranch Board. Which I don't know if you know the Morse Ranch. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4201.0,4254.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4254.0,4255.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was Wanye Morse's home. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4255.0,4257.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, the Morse Ranch. Okay, great. So you were on the board of the Morse Ranch? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4257.0,4263.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, and they brought Barbara Lee here to honor her one year. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4263.0,4272.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Congresswoman Barbara Lee. \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4272.0,4274.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Congressman, congresswoman. For opposing the war in Iraq. And, of course, she was absolutely right, and we absolutely agree with her. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4274.0,4292.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you also continued in your work in your congregation? \n\nEllen Maddex","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4292.0,4297.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Until we went to Scotland. For eighteen years, I did lay visiting the hospital for Jewish patients. And attempted to—particularly people who wound up in the local hospital for a variety of reasons. Jewish patients. People who had gotten in car accidents. One young man who broke my heart. It was sad. I was the only person to visit him. I think what happened, he fell off a curb and broke his leg when—he came here to sing in the Bach Festival and tried for years and years to get to sing at the Bach Festival. And this was his big chance and he wound up in the hospital for weeks. He was a young Jewish man and I'd come and visit him because he knew nobody here. Back then the hospital would identify people by religion. So I would know who identified as Jewish and if they didn't want a visitor I didn't stay. I just would ask, “Would you like a visitor? I'm from the synagogue.” And I did that because our rabbi, he was so overwhelmed with work back then, he couldn't always go to the hospital. So—now we have the whole program of visitors. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510#t=4297.0,4413.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160661/file/292510/transcript/84518/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Ellen, I want to thank you very much. This has been a very informative interview, and we hope that I'll be interviewing probably another dozen people. And of course, these interviews are all then going to become the basis for a scholarly article. 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