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Slick roads were blamed for a number of accidents around the Willamette Valley. Most of them were minor, but Cheryl Kurtman was pinned under her car in a one-car accident in North Salem. She's listed in serious condition at Salem Memorial. Wet roads were also blamed for a fatal accident in Lynn County. There were minor flooding problems around the valley, and downed trees were a problem for traffic in Kaiser. In Tualatin, wet cables kept phone crews busy, and some 1,000 people in Oregon City and Estacada were reportedly without electricity for a time. Eileen Pinkes Walker, News 8.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=61.64,109.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A bit about that. And that is that you put together either of the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=122.61,127.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Those if you would you'd like to see them. The recommendation of the airport","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=127.05,131.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e of the airplane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=130.69,131.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Why does the city remain so apparently adamantly opposed to the concept of a port district or an airport district?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=152.11,160.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That means that we have to drive all the way around that thing to service our airplanes and what not. We don't like that. We're sitting to put together either of those vehicles. We see, you know, an extended period of time, an extend process. So timing is one issue. Number two is we feel that given where we are today in terms of the design and where we're today and where I think we could see the dollars coming from, that in fact they're not necessarily the most efficient. Right over there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=161.15,214.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Long before the cold February morning the soldiers actually left, the Oregon National Guard started preparing for its two weeks in Honduras. The Guard Bureau in Washington D.C. Approached Oregon about the exercises early last fall. Local Guard officials and Governor Vicatilla approved the plan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=214.8,229.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e And, fall! Yes, the best, Wildcats!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=229.51,232.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The soldiers were originally set to depart the 1st of December, but Honduran officials asked for a two-month delay while the Central American country elected and inaugurated a new president, Jose Espona.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=234.0,243.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Keep the guard home! Keep the guards home!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=244.7,247.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e We need to remember that it was the people of the United States who stopped the war in Vietnam, and it will be the people in the United states who will stop the war in Central America and who will be priest to the region.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=247.99,256.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Despite a rush of last minute protests by a coalition of religious and peace groups and some state legislators, 180 Oregon soldiers loaded into three Air Force C-141s and flew 3,000 miles south to Central America on February 1st. Seven and a half hours later, they landed at an air base in Honduras. Palmarola is the base of US military operations in Honduras. US officials call it a temporary base, saying it can come down in a matter of days if necessary. The officials also add they are here at the invitation of Honduran officials. This camp is where every National Guard unit begins and ends its deployment in this country. The command post for the US military in South and Central America is located in Panama. According to public information officer Major John Smith, at least 5,300 National Guard soldiers will train in Honduras during the first six months of this year. Of that group, 4,600 soldiers will help build a 20 kilometer road over hilly terrain in north central Honduras. The rest, including Oregon soldiers, will participate in military maneuvers. Oregon set up camp about 50 miles from the Nicaraguan border near the small village of Tamora, right in the middle of a Honduran paratrooper base. Conditions were primitive. Sleeping under the stars, water trucked in 250 gallons at a time, purified by medics. They left behind the taste of a swimming pool. The mid-80 degree temperatures and hilly terrain looked a lot like central and eastern Oregon. But Camp Commander Lieutenant Steve Muir and Colonel Ed Smith say the key to this exercise is the actual deployment of many men and machines over many miles. And that could not have happened in Oregon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=257.14,350.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the biggest advantages to a DFT deployment for training is the exercise we go through at home station, which is the actual deployment preparation to go anywhere in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=351.71,367.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Deploy several thousand miles and bring everything you need with you and then to land at an air base and then deploy 60 kilometers from that air base and provide the rations and the water and the fuel and all the other items that you need to operate is very much a challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=369.49,392.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But there is a bigger picture deploying thousands of US Guardsmen over many months. Arthur Schaap is the information service officer for the US Embassy in Honduras. He says there are a number of reasons for the joint military exercises, beginning with the training of US soldiers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=394.28,408.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Also to improve coordination between U.S. And Honduran forces and to, in effect, send a political signal to the Honduran people and the Hondurian government of the U. S.'s support for and commitment to Honduran security, especially in the face of the overwhelming the military buildup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=409.27,427.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e About 150 Honduran paratroopers trained alongside the Oregon soldiers for most of the exercises. Honduran Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Carvajal believes his country's military is strong but limited, and so he approves of the US presence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=429.5,441.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e We can do until the threat is not bigger than we are enough to repel and you know that some people are preparing to have huge armies and we will not be able to repels them if they have another kind of policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=442.66,466.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And Colonel Smith says if for some reason the United States does get involved in a war in Central America or anywhere else in the world, the Oregon National Guard will go into combat almost immediately. The role of the National Guard has changed since Vietnam. The Guard now makes up nearly one half of the fighting force of the United State's Army. The concept of a home militia no longer describes the National Guards.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=466.96,486.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e The U.S. No longer has the luxury like we did in the Second World War to train National Guard for a year before they're deployed. National Guard now in this scenario is deployed almost immediately. My unit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=487.16,501.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e And the National Guard as a whole have certain missions. And as such, if we don't get the required training that we need, really, the disservice is done to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=502.7,513.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So the organ boys will sneak through waist-high grass, shoot at silhouettes, go on long patrols, and fire their mortars with the blessings of Honduran and US military officials. But the support is not so strong from other leaders in Honduras or the United States. In Honduras, Jean Powell, Eyewitness News. Fire up!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=514.89,532.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e What the fuck was that? It's hard to move up!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=532.49,536.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e UH-1s are better known as Hueys, synonymous with Vietnam. The dark-colored choppers look all too familiar against the blue sky of Honduras. They land lightly, touching the ground just long enough to trade a load of National Guard and Honduran soldiers. Then, without missing a beat, the powerful rotor blades lift the machine back in the sky. The soldiers are left keeping a wary eye out for imaginary enemies. While these soldiers concentrate on their day-to-day maneuvers, others in this Central American nation think of the big picture, US military presence in Honduras, a presence which has escalated drastically since 1979 when the Sandinistas took over the government of Nicaragua, ousting US-backed Somoza regime. Arthur Schaap of the US Embassy in Hondura. We do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=560.26,603.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e We do. We consider Nicaragua a very serious threat to all of Central America, and especially to its immediate neighbors, El Salvador, Honduras, and Costa Rica.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=603.04,612.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Scott says Honduras is a prime location for US presence because it is in the geographic center of Central America. But some Honduran political leaders say it is just that kind of reasoning that makes them wary of the US presence in their country. Efren Diaz of the Christian Democratic Party is a minority member of the Honduran Congress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=612.93,629.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe that U.S. Presence here and U. S. Policy toward Honduras is designed more in terms of what happens in Nicaragua and El Salvador, rather than taking into consideration what happens in Honduras.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=630.6,643.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Other Honduran leaders agree with Diaz on certain points. Andres Victor Artiles is the president of a major labor union in Honduras. And Lissandro Quesada is the press secretary for Honduran President Jose Ascona. Both feel the US military presence must be at the invitation and control of Hondurans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=644.34,660.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e This government will follow that tradition of friendship with the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=661.21,663.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e This government would like to continue this tradition of friendship with the United States, whom we consider the leader of democracy. And as a consequence, we wish to be political friends of the United states. And now the present government would hope that these relations be surrounded by an atmosphere of dignity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=665.61,682.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e The United States, no matter how powerful it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=683.18,684.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e The United States, for as powerful as it might be, cannot at any time overstep the limits of the rights which are the Hondurans. And the reality is that we need to have relations with all the countries of the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=685.7,697.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This is Tegucigalpa, the capital of Honduras. Officials estimate the population to be about a half a million people. And as with any city that size, you have the politically aware, those not so politically aware. The very wealthy and the very poor. The politically aware the leaders of Hondurans really have two major problems facing them, the military and the economy. The hungry and the barrios, or poor sections, far outnumber the soldiers in this country. One 15-year Jesuit missionary warned... That the hungry, poorly educated, and unemployed could easily be the ones to pose a threat to the Honduran government, not a neighboring country. Last year, the United States poured $202 million worth of direct aid into Honduras. $134 million for the economy, $67 million for military. The Honduran officials are grateful for the aid, but they question other congressional aid packages. Specifically, U.S. Support for the Counter-Revolutionaries, or Contras, a group of soldiers loyal to the ousted Nicaraguan government. The Contras camp in Honduras, crossing the border to strike at the new Nicaraguian government. Honduran officials say support of the Contras complicates the Central American Contadora peace process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=699.62,768.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe that the main source of conflict between Honduras and Nicaragua is the question of the presence of the contrasts in Honduran territory. I have always maintained that Honduras does not have a problem with Nicaraguan. I think the United States has a problem in Nicaraguá, but not Honduras.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=769.53,785.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e The Contras, in the sense in which they have played a part, are more than anything else a part of a de facto government. We did not share with it nor the Somoza regime. Their presence here is inappropriate, because it means we are breaking the principle of no intervention in the internal affairs of a country. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=788.36,807.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem of Nicaragua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=807.5,808.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem of Nicaragua will be resolved in accordance with the Honduran thesis. For example, by specific means which have already been seen in international law. The government of Ascona supports the Contadora process in order that this controversial problem concerning Nicaragua might be sooner concluded. It.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=809.73,828.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e U.S. Embassy Representative Scup would not comment on the Contra situation, and even President Toscana's representative says his country has no proof the Contras actually live in Honduras, but others are more sure of the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=828.96,841.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I cannot have a proof that they are here, but they are there. If you go to the border, in El Choluteca or El Paraíso or anywhere, you'll find them everywhere. And you can contact anyone. Alfonso Calero, you can call him here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=841.89,860.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We also spoke with Juan Jose Membrano of the Nicaraguan embassy in Honduras. He says he believes there are three reasons for the U.S. Military presence in Hondurus. Weapons to the Contras, weapons to El Salvador, and to strengthen the Honduran army. Membrana says Nicaragua is building its army not to invade other countries, but to protect itself against a feared U. S. Invasion. He also believes the National Guard soldiers are in Hondura to enhance the overall U.s. Military present. And that the military is here to protect US interests, not those of Honduras. That feeling is also held by Honduran Congressman Diaz. However, Diaz doesn't think President Reagan will risk actually going to war in Central America because of the possible negative public opinion it might generate. But he fears Reagan may get support for a war if it is not US soldiers who die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=861.28,908.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e But what will happen, perhaps, is that the ones who are going to die are the Central Americans. Others put the money on their arms, and we put the death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=909.09,921.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e In Tugusigalpa, Honduras, Jean Powell, Eyewitness News. All of the Oregon National Guard soldiers marching on the rock hard ground near Tamora are volunteers. Their required two weeks of annual training comes later in the spring. That will take place in California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=922.0,963.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Deflection, deflection, two, six, eight, seven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=965.479,970.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e These 180 soldiers came for a variety of reasons, mostly, though, for the adventure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=971.78,976.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I came for the experience and to see different country and see what foreign people were like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=976.98,983.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Private first-class Sam Dishman of Grant's Pass is 19 years old. He joined the Guard on the heels of his older brothers. He was 17 and a half at the time. When he isn't in fatigues, Dishmen is in the woods as a logger. While excited about coming to Honduras, he also had some fears based on news stories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=983.88,999.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There's people driving up and down the streets and go to deuce in the house with people up on top with machine guns and stuff. You see it in the news every day if you watch the news. Every time I watch the new I see it. Buildings getting blowed up, riots go happening all over the place. Why? I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1000.31,1024.099"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Dishman was surprised when he heard the guard was traveling 3,000 miles south for maneuvers. Ready.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1024.93,1029.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Couldn't see why they couldn't have trained somewhere else in Oregon you know because there's lots of places like Eastern Oregon or Yakima or Raya Lea or Raw Boots or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1030.64,1042.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But Dishman says there is some good training here, if only getting used to the sun again. And Dishmen works up quite a sweat as an assistant gunner. His crew handles an 81 millimeter mortar. The crews practice dry runs for several days, then move near the village of Zambrano for live fire exercises. Fire! I'll see you next time. Each of the rounds blows a small crater in the earth. The blast would probably kill anybody within 35 meters of the impact point. Shrapnel flies beyond that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1046.8,1074.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Fire!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1074.78,1074.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e These live-fire exercises aren't all that common with the National Guard soldiers, so naturally they approach them with a lot of eagerness. But some of the troops, like Dishman, are not all that anxious for combat, where death goes hand-in-hand with live fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1076.389,1088.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But if we had never come to war, I would go and save my country. I'd give it my best shot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1088.84,1095.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e While Dishon was firing the big guns, Private First Class Steve Sexton of Springfield spent two weeks running, crawling, and shooting. He is an infantryman with the Guard. The 22-year-old spent a year in the regular army, says he misses it, and expects to rejoin. Sexton currently works as a mechanic in civilian life. He, too, was surprised when he heard of the Guard's plan for maneuvers in Honduras.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1095.98,1116.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e My older brother, the one that was in the National Guard. As soon as I got out of the regular army, he transferred into the regular Army. They never did nothing like this. Just something that nobody ever thinks that the National Guard would do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1117.22,1132.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Despite his surprise, Sexton signed up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1132.5,1134.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e It gives me a chance to see how other people live in other parts of the world, other countries. And I think the good Lord that I live in the United States where living is good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1135.2,1148.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The National Guard soldiers really didn't have much of a chance to mix with the local people, but they did see samples of the unrelenting poverty alongside the highway. Most of the time, the soldiers were tucked away safely in the middle of a Honduran military base, although even that didn't seem too safe at first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1149.56,1163.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the first couple of days, I think everybody was a little skeptical, because all the Hondurans were always carrying live ammo. But then after about a week, everybody just kind of calmed down, because we were training with them and everything. And they were pretty good. 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It wasn't mandatory, but I wish I would have took it now for taking to learn in Spanish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1187.73,1195.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, like I'm not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1196.16,1196.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But both sides took the Band-Aid approach to the problem, using sign language and lots of nodding. Sexton spent his one year with the Army in Texas, so he is excited to have the international training, something he feels should be mandatory for any soldier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1198.19,1211.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm glad the President of the United States is sending people, especially National Guard, down to places like this so they can get a taste of, especially the ones that didn't like go to Korea and Vietnam and everything, they can a taste of jungle warfare and being in another, training in another country and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1212.58,1232.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Sexton and Dishman are actually from different units in the Oregon National Guard. Most of the soldiers on these maneuvers are from the Portland and McMendal areas. But the Guard also pulled soldiers from other units to round out the exercises. Despite the mix of units, the soldiers knew how to band together in an emergency. Taking a closer look at KATHryn Taking a close look at KATH","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1233.07,1249.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Call a helicopter drop! Faker!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1249.17,1251.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e On Saturday a brush fire was touched off in a live fire exercise. A star cluster flare had not totally extinguished before landing in the tender dry grass. Half the unit charged the angry flames throwing shirts and gear off as they climbed the hill. Using entrenching tools, picks and shovels, they quickly scraped out a fire line and contained the blaze. The firefighters were rewarded with drinking water, then the tools were traded in for weapons, and the soldiers were back at military maneuvers. Near Tamara Honduras, Jean Powell, Eyewitness News. The sun rises quickly and early in Honduras, and it doesn't take the Oregon National Guard soldiers long to get ready for another day of training. The whiskers come off. 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The last time they were near the 14th parallel, they were fighting in Vietnam. Frederick spent eight years in the Marine Corps, starting in 1959 at Da Nang.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1338.32,1357.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e I was a rifleman until my fireteam leader stepped on a landmine and blew his leg off and then I took over as fireteamm leader. Then we were ambushed and my squad leader took a round in the stomach and while the corpsman was trying to patch him up, a mortar round landed on both of them, killed them both so I made squad leader at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1358.069,1378.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Hall was in Vietnam in 1969 and 70.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1379.95,1382.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e I just got married 23 days before I went to Vietnam, and so she, uh... Kind of flashbacked herself you know me being gone for a year and now just two weeks you know but i told her there's nothing to worry about we're just over here to train","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1382.57,1398.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And Hall is taking full advantage of the training time and location. 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The men are soldiers, and when they do train, they have to train to survive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1411.78,1426.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e A lot of the non-commissioned officers in this unit are Vietnam veterans. Sergeant Hall is one of them. They all feel pretty much the same way. Their job here is to train the young soldiers about the reality of war long before they ever see combat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1427.72,1439.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e The spirit is fine, but I will be the first one to get on them for doing a Rambo stunt, or a John Wayne stunt that would cause somebody to get hurt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1439.99,1449.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Frederick agrees the Rambo-ism will wear off the young soldiers in serious training and actual combat, but he worries the current string of one-man superhero movies is giving a wrong impression of war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1451.06,1460.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e Actual combat is killing, is being killed, is having legs blown off, it's having people get burned to death, it having civilians being accidentally killed, it is economically very expensive for any country involved in it, there's so many negative things about combat that I think there are certain people that don't want our people to know what it's really like, because if they ever did, there would be a hell of a lot less people volunteer to go into a combat situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1461.34,1490.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Frederick has just joined the Guard, hoping to gain the 20 years necessary to collect retirement benefits. In civilian life, he is a medical technologist at Portland's Kaiser Hospital. Frederick says he would not hesitate to go back to war if the United States was threatened by invasion, but he does not want to ever fight another Vietnam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1491.54,1507.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem we had in Vietnam with the arvin soldiers is that they didn't care enough about their freedom quote unquote to be good fighters and to be organized fighters. And the American troops ended up by carrying a lot of the load. The Viet Cong and the NBA had a lot of motivation, they were fighting in their country. They were fighting for what they believed was right. And they fought very well. The Arbens didn't believe in what they fought for. Consequently, they weren't willing to lay down their life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1508.05,1538.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But Frederick is impressed by the Honduran soldiers, saying they are tough and patriotic. He sees no reason for U.S. Troops to ever have to fight in Central America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1539.08,1546.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e If the United States treats these people right, and instead of bringing bullets and guns down here, gives them economic aid, medical aid, those people are going to be for democracy and for the United states. And we're not going to have to worry about this area. 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Paul, a full-time National Guard employee, disagrees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1572.11,1581.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e We're not involved in their political thing, I don't think. How could we be? We're here training with the Hondurians, side by side, and we're not anywhere close to the border. And for just one company of National Guard men to make a difference, I doubt that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1582.43,1600.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e However, it's hard not to look at the overall picture. These 180 soldiers from Oregon do make up a part of the 5,000 National Guard soldiers who are expected to train in this country the first six months of this year. Dear Tamara Honduras, Jean Powell, Eyewitness News. It wasn't the first time a helicopter hovered and then landed in the field near the Oregon National Guard camp, but it was the first it brought civilian visitors from home. Six Oregon legislators and some members of the press dropped by the exercises in Honduras for about an hour. It was one small segment of a four-day trip financed by federal dollars. Part of the group went on to Panama to visit a small Oregon National Guard public relations contingent, and three of the legislators took off on their own to Nicaragua for a couple of days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1602.68,1677.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e With the primary purpose that we have been deployed on the deployment for training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1678.2,1682.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e After a short briefing by oregon national guard officials","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1682.79,1684.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a hell of a nice experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1686.2,1687.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And officers from the Honduran paratrooper base, the legislators got into the field with the soldiers. This was the only exercise where the Hondurans soldiers used live ammunition. The legislators were a mixed group, half seeing the exercises as a positive experience for the soldiers and with no political overtones, the other three feeling just the opposite. And it didn't take long for the political battle lines to be drawn and beliefs to be expressed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1687.68,1711.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e No, that's by allowing the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1712.18,1712.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Colonel William Comey, the U.S. Commander at Palmarula Air Base, traveled with the Oregon delegation. He and Democratic Senator Frank Roberts of Portland had a number of conflicting opinions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1712.86,1721.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e There is a change going on in Latin America. Those who don't see it have their eyes closed. There is flow toward democracy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1721.97,1729.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there hasn't been any evidence of it, let's put it that way. There's been no evidence of? No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1728.99,1732.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e I would start at Argentina and end up in Mexico and say that you don't know what you're talking about if you say there's no evidence of democracy in Latin America. Well, the United States doesn't think there's been any evidence of Nicaragua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1734.16,1748.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Portland Senator Jeanette Hamby and Portland Representative Mike Burton also oppose U.S. Military presence in Central America. Burton says the role of the state militia has changed now that it is one half of the fighting force of the U. S. Army. And he says that needs to be examined.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1750.04,1763.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e I think maybe there's just a question of whether or not we need to maintain and continue a guard component in the same configuration it is or just simply admit that it's a national reserve combat force. The problem I have with Oregonians being down here is that I see this as a portion towards permanent buildup in this area. 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It was just a darn good training exercise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1781.96,1785.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Republican Senators Len Hannan of Ashland and Ken Jernstead of Hood River agree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1786.64,1790.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it behooves all our troops to get as much training as they possibly can. And this is the first time I know of that Oregon National Guard has gone into this type of area, let's say a semi-jungle area. I see the training exercises in conflict with the memorial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1790.81,1808.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The memorial Hanby is referring to is Senate Joint Memorial 3, which was passed by a majority of Oregon legislators in 1985. It calls on the federal government to seek a peaceful resolution to the problems in Central America and do away with military intervention. The legislature passed a similar memorial in 1983. Markham says both memorials are garbage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1809.72,1827.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e Because they don't have any significance and they get back to Washington, D.C. Just an exercise of futility by the people who don't happen to believe in a strong military.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1827.46,1834.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e These six are probably a fair representation of the Oregon leadership. State politicians are split on the National Guard issue. House Speaker Vera Katz and Senate President John Kitzhopper both asked Governor Vic Atiyah to stop the mission to Honduras, citing the legislative memorial. Atiyahu said no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1835.71,1850.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 25:\u003c/strong\u003e What happens if our Oregon people were called and had to go down there. And I want them prepared for that eventuality. And so my thoughts are in terms of the young men and women who will have to go, God forbid they ever go if they have to go in terms of their own protection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1851.02,1868.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Training is mandatory for any guard unit. No one denies that, but some of the soldiers and officers say the actual exercises, the patrolling and shooting, could have been done in the United States. However, Camp Commander Lieutenant Steve Muir says the international mission was invaluable because of the actual deployment of men and machines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1870.52,1886.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e All the administrative and medical processing that we would have to do, the logistical and other planning that would go into moving not only a company sized element but a battalion or brigade sized element. Those problems are really brought to light with this type of an exercise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1886.94,1907.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But could Atiya have stopped the exercises if he wanted to? Technically, the answer is yes. He is the commander of the guard in peacetime. But Colonel Ed Smith says the Guard has new responsibilities now that he is considered part of the fighting force of the U.S. Army. And he feels there could have been some political and economic ramifications for the state if the exercises had been canceled at the last minute. According to Congressman Jim Weaver's office, the Oregon National Guard budget for the 1985-87 biennium is $145 million. $135 million is federal money, and $10 million is from the state budget. Legislators like Burton realize the state contribution is a small part of the Guard's entire budget, but he plans to use it as a pawn in future dealings with the National Guard. An hour after touching down, the legislators were taking to the air again, off for more military briefings. The legislative visit was on the last day of exercises for the Oregon soldiers. Even as the chopper lifted, the tents came down. And it didn't take long at all to strike the camp. But the bigger issues raised by the training in Honduras will not be packed away quite as quickly as all the gear. Certain legislators have promised that. But those issues will be studied at another time and by other people. The only thing on the minds of these soldiers is going home to Oregon. All 170,000 pounds of Oregon men and equipment were ready to go home. The last of the 10,000 lbs of live ammunition and blanks exploded harmlessly in the air. In a formal ceremony, Honduran and Oregon National Guard officers thanked each other for the training. The Oregon soldiers were invited back to Honduras. The Honduran paratroopers were invited to Oregon. Plaques and hats were exchanged. And then the soldiers did a final bit of bartering, looking for souvenirs from their Spanish-speaking counterparts. Palmarola Air Base was hot, customs a long process under a blistering sun. But the inside of a C-141 never looked better to a group of home-hungry soldiers, even though it meant staring at large equipment for a seven and a half hour flight. The soldiers left 85 degree Honduran sunshine and stepped into 39 degree Portland, Oregon rain. The Oregon National Guard soldiers are Oregon civilians again, the training mission is just a memory for them, but the controversy surrounding the maneuvers and the changing role of the National Guard is still very fresh. In Portland, Jean Powell, Eyewitness News.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=1912.61,2055.909"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 26:\u003c/strong\u003e Aldo Ritz is a happy man. Today in Lane County Juvenile Court, Judge Edwin Allen said Ritz could take his five-year-old daughter Alicia home with him to Sonoma County, California. Alicia's mother is Shawna Ritz, Aldo's ex-wife. She also had children by convicted child murderer Larry Elvin Reeve. Reeve was convicted last summer for suffocating 18-month-old Elizabeth Curran. She was the daughter of a roommate Alicia Ritz was living with. Prior to the murder, Shawna Ritz had custody of Alicia because she moved to Springfield from California and Alicia told Children's Services Division workers her father Aldo had sexually molested her. Based on that, the Oregon courts gave Shawna custody despite a California court order that ruled Aldo should have the child. Would have a choice. Then today's bombshell. In court, it was revealed the five-year-old had tearfully recanted the allegations against her father. Normally, CSD workers are highly suspicious of children reversing their stories, but CSD Workers were in agreement that this was the case this time. Judge Allen cleared the courtroom for an hour and talked directly with the child. The judge was in tears when the courtroom was reopened and said he believed that, quote, it was Elvin Reeve who induced her to make these statements against her biological father. After the trial, a triumphant Aldo Ritz, who spent four and a half years and more than $20,000 for his child, had this reaction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2076.15,2151.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to say something to every judge, that here's a custody dispute. The mother's allegations aren't always true, that they should give the father a chance. Give his say and accept the evidence that's being put before the court and to seriously ponder it as being true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2152.45,2175.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 26:\u003c/strong\u003e Alicia's mother avoided the cameras today. Judge Allen granted her a last supervised visit with a child before Alicia goes to California. Although Rich's attorney is Eugene-based John Hudson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2176.09,2185.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think that the courts of this state and the Children's Services Division were used by the mother to avoid the order of the California court.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2186.27,2196.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 26:\u003c/strong\u003e Hudson says a separate court action is underway to make Oregon courts subservient to the federally mandated Parental Kidnapping Prevention Act, an act designed to keep parents from playing one state's courts against another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2196.82,2206.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e We're testing the jurisdiction of the court, and it's under appeal right now before the Oregon Court of Appeals. And I understand a hearing will be set in April.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2207.65,2215.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 26:\u003c/strong\u003e As for Aldo Ritz, he says his first priority is a normal life for his daughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2216.19,2219.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e Now we're going to spend a couple days getting used to where she's living and then she'll be put in school and be taken care of as any other parent will take care of their daughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2221.32,2231.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e This is a thing I have to read.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2254.94,2257.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 30:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I like it, yeah. I, you know, I just enjoy the job. I like, I find it fun. If I didn't find it fun, I wouldn't want to do it. I liked the struggle and the arguments and the... But above all, I liked that creative sense of trying to participate in building a university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2261.89,2275.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm so proud of you. The agenda, you notice there are typos too. I'm going to take that one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2276.99,2283.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e I turned on at 11 o'clock, so it was already over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2283.69,2285.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it was following Zagorn's story on the customs. We are now in customs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2285.94,2291.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Robert Hagan and Bobby Johnson filed a suit January 27th of this year in federal court. Hagan is serving time for robbery and a parole violation. Johnson for attempted burglary. Both are scheduled for release in April. The suit names Lane County and Sheriff Dave Burks. It claims the old jail or annex is unsanitary and unhealthy because of stagnant air due to poor ventilation, infestation of mice, leaky roof during rainstorms, and a shower that leaks into a cell. The two also claim adequate medical care is not provided at the facility. What is rather unusual with this suit is that the plaintiffs ask for no money, only that the old jail be closed down. County officials have not responded to the suit and have no comment since it is still under consideration. But the idea of closing the old jail down is not new to county commissioners. Last August, a jail litigation expert, Eugene Attorney Roy Haber, examined the old jail at the request of Sheriff Dave Burks. His report cited problems with plumbing, sanitation, and poor ventilation. He suggested closing the jail, and county officials took note.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2305.21,2366.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 27:\u003c/strong\u003e Ward has directed that the CPCC, or the Criminal Process Courting Committee, develop a plan by October 1 for closure of the jail July 1 of 1986.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2367.8,2379.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e By November of last year, county staff had come up with a plan to slowly close down the jail through a slow phase out of beds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2380.89,2387.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 31:\u003c/strong\u003e When a prisoner is transferred from the jail to that alternative, whether they're transferred from a new facility or the old facility, we will no longer use a bed in the old jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2388.43,2398.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But even with the plan in action, the original closure date of July 86 looks questionable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2399.49,2403.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 32:\u003c/strong\u003e Our goal was, of course, to close the old jail by next summer. Quite frankly, I doubt if we can make it that fast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2404.65,2412.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The current lawsuit may force that July date and perhaps a sooner one. Jean Powell, Eyewitness News.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2412.9,2418.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 33:\u003c/strong\u003e At 5 o'clock this morning, Eugene Weiss and narcotics officers seized drugs, jewelry and other allegedly stolen property from this house on Avalon Street. Police say they only took stereo equipment, which was marked, claiming they left more behind that could never be matched with its owner. A brand new 1986 Datsun police say was stolen from a Beaverton car lot was also found. Lieutenant Vic Mann says this is a typical operation you might see in any Eugene neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2437.05,2462.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Of this, the drugs that you've observed here. The street value is approximately $4,000 for the methamphetamine and the marijuana is about $1,500 a pound and three pounds worth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2463.7,2476.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 33:\u003c/strong\u003e Police believe drug buyers would bring stolen property to pay for methamphetamines or marijuana. It made for a lot of traffic on Avalon Street off Highway 99.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2477.42,2485.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e This particular arrest was the result of a seven month investigation, but it's a fairly small operation, but its located in a neighborhood and we acted because of complaints from the neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2487.05,2498.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 33:\u003c/strong\u003e 36-Year-old Evelyn Bly and 19-year old Jerry Edgman are still in custody on drug charges. Four other adults and one juvenile were cited and released. Ann Bradley, Eyewitness News.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2500.13,2510.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e The Random Lengths Lumber Price Guide released today shows lumber prices up across the board. The price of green Douglas fir 2x4s is up $13 in the last three weeks. Other species have seen even bigger jumps. Random Lenghts editor John Anderson says people have been waiting for something to happen and in the past two weeks it happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2530.42,2550.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 34:\u003c/strong\u003e These increases confirm to many people that it'll be a relatively good year for the overall wood products market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2550.28,2558.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e But he says that doesn't necessarily mean more jobs for local mill workers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2559.6,2563.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 34:\u003c/strong\u003e If there's a move to a significantly higher level in the housing market, maybe eventually it'll translate into some more jobs. But you just simply cannot say that a move upward of $20,000 in two weeks is going to prompt mill operators to hire more people. The mill operator needs to see some longer term trends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2564.34,2586.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Douglas Fir 2x4s are now selling for $175 a thousand board feet. That's better than it's been, but still almost $60 a thousand below last year's peak in June. Anderson says the positive signs we're seeing in housing starts and interest rates are all on the demand side of the market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2587.54,2605.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 34:\u003c/strong\u003e It'd be my guess that the demand and the use of lumber in the country is greater than it ever has been, given the supplies from Canada, from all regions in the United States, the tremendous volumes. That's addressing the demand side. Again, on the supply side, though, we definitely have more lumber available to the markets. And in a very much supply and demand-driven market, we end up with soft prices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2605.89,2633.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's going to take more than short-term price increases and positive national economic news before the local mill owners and mill workers are cheering. Doug Barber, Eyewitness News.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870#t=2634.76,2644.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70919/file/156870/transcript/88320/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 35:\u003c/strong\u003e And the ones I've met are economically sound enough that I meet them coming through here. Well, I think the general public needs to know more about the Board of Equalization of Process, and I have been there about 350 times representing property in the last five years and been successful 99% of the time. What that means to the average citizen, if they're overvalued, then they're paying more than their fair share of the taxes in Lane County. Like we're here to ever buy here. Well, yeah, on the coast. In my life. 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