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I mean, surely you can't. Oh. No way. Oh. All right. Are you getting me okay, Mr.. Well, you're going to set for them. Yeah, I'm just going to. Is it all right? Open. Open up I think so, it's okay. I thought it would have been better than I do, so. Oh, well. Right now. Okay. Why don't you just roll the damn camera? No, wait. Jim. What? It's like one two seconds. Come through. Be ready. Okay. What's all right? I think you can come in. Yeah, sure. Okay. Roll the camera. Okay. Now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4.29,57.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One. One pretty face must be beaten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=57.99,60.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. Please don't. And the. So what is today's? The. March.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=61.03,69.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The 1st March? I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=70.24,73.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=73.75,75.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e March.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=75.85,75.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Very kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=76.51,76.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, I feel I. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=77.26,78.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And what is the date? 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And even so we said Yvonne, Yvonne do. But don't put it there just to. Yeah. Thank you so much. Don't don't look for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=85.0,103.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=104.05,104.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We just showed their films. Arm is full and the lining is Houston Media Center already. There are about three subjects I'd like to tackle here with, with you and a first of the some of the technical things like lighting the camera just briefly. And then the two most remarkable things about both of your films, firstly is the. The performance and the people that are non-actors and the structure of these stories that seem to move along without plot, and yet they move. And yet the audience was a hit. And as a as a filmmaker myself, I want to point out how you did it. You know, I know that these things are impossible to explain, but I really want to get to that point. And, well, anyway, I there's been a lot of there's a lot of in my mind last night when I saw the lighting and what I mean, for me, it was just many questions where it let me shaking my head to know, you know, how to come up with the hoops, which gets a lot of, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=108.46,186.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The ghost cave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=188.54,189.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And some coffee place. And some.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=192.89,195.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Shoes. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=196.22,197.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. Oh. It's sugaring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=198.53,200.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=200.93,200.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=202.07,202.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's hot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=205.39,205.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How how did you like your interiors? I had a I had a hunch that there was none of the. There was no back lighting, no sense of of what I would usually see in a, in a, in a Hollywood production or in a regular commercial. You know, it's an environment. Well, for, as we say, in the ballroom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=210.31,229.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. The the ballroom scene was lighted with a constant light. We had a we had a basic light, you know, on the ceiling, which was on one switch, obviously. So with one hand you could, you know, light the whole scene with a basic light and behind the camera just, you know, 1 or 2 quartz lamps which were not lighting directly in the faces, but in the such an umbrella which is white inside, you know, and which is diffusing the light, photographic the whole, the whole light is made as a very diffused light, you know, never you know, that's a that's always working with nonprofessional people or with a big crowd. I prefer and also with actors I prefer that. Everything whole technique, including lighting, must serve to the freedom of actors, and not the opposite that the actors are just here to fulfill the tricks of technique. You know that you know you can light the way that the actors becomes, you know, slaves of this technique that I, I, for example, must see this way because here I have the best light. If I move that way, I'm going out of light, you know, and I can go only till certain point, because that's the best way, you know, like that. So this I don't like very much. I like if you know, technique, it gives absolute freedom for the people in front of the camera. They really need to think at all about the technique. You know, this I learned when. Because I was occasionally, you know, when I was a student, making my living being in the film like extras, you know, playing a little roles. And I remember from that time that the most disturbing thing for me as an actor, which made me uptight, was all these things, all these technical duties putting on me, all this technical knowledge is, you know, I, for example, in the moment when director told me what the camera is doing and where I shall be in the frame and in the picture, you know, and oh, how the zoom is coming on me. And like that, all these things, I don't know why made me nervous, you know. And it it's abso and I recognize that it's absolutely not necessary me to know it. It's a director's job. He knows what he's doing. So why put these troubles in my head? You know, because then I felt, you know, some responsibility to everything. What I'm doing, guy. If he told me so, it means that it has some importance. He wanted me to know why. He wanted me to know how to, you know, be aware, to behave a certain way. 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You don't know the technique at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=446.08,455.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What was the lighting thing that you use on the on the for the ceiling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=455.65,458.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It was such a big guy like buff top, you know, but upside down it means this way. 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Which made the light more diffused. You know, this was in this ballroom where, you know, the ceiling was very high and, you know, the light should come in the little rooms. We always paint the ceiling on the white. And these bus tops are this way. So the light is coming directly to the ceiling, and the set is lightened by the reflected diffused already light from the ceiling and sometimes still covered with this milky plastic plastic sheets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=478.52,519.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you use no fill light then or you? This was what the umbrellas work was. 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Yes, yes. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=544.74,545.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You had all of this been regulated on, on a already set up. There was no setting up for each shot. 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And unfortunately. You know, if the print has a right projector, you know, it's quite strong. So you will see the faces are always darker than the bigger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=648.22,664.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I there's one thing I've noticed in both of your films is an extreme detail of the textures of things. You can see the weave and the shirts. Yeah, yeah, it's a great quality in the, in the, the sharpness of the image. 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No, I think yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=733.58,735.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It will be. That's great. That's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=736.58,738.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=739.49,739.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She's going to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=740.18,740.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Change set immediately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=741.08,742.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's going to be a little bit refreshment all the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=743.39,745.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Time with everybody. I think everyone you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=746.54,748.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You are already in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=750.05,751.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah we're getting in. That's a little bit of. Well I know I'm, I'm moving on. Okay. You could move just a little bit so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=751.91,759.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=761.54,761.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If you don't. And you. You make us nervous because we fear that it's for students. And we are very relaxed if you refuse to be. 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So much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=772.25,775.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Important road. Go on it. The good thing about it. I mean, this isn't a movie. This is just a mr.. Right? Are you all okay? Yes, please. Right now, I was asking you about the focal length lenses. Yeah. 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Which makes every, you know, level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=929.82,932.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=933.21,933.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The same sharp. So you have to arrange everything very carefully, you know, to, you know, bring the attention of the audience on that particular man, you know, who brings the action. You know, if you use a long focus, so you immediately put everything what's behind this action and in front of the action, slightly out of focus. So technically you bring the audience attention directly in the middle where you want. You know, they follow the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=933.81,972.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Action. And also it has also a physical result because we usually try to use only one, but, you know, 50mm or 75 because every objective has every lens has its own quality. It is always a little bit slightly different, especially in color, you know. And so if you can use only one or maybe you can use zoom, always hold off here. But you use it not as a zoom but as a normal length, you know. 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And it has esthetically result because the whole film has the same quality, you know what I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1015.76,1023.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, you have the same proportions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1024.16,1025.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, proportions and quality of sharpness and how every lens reacts to gray, black, white, you know, every every lens has its own quality. It's very difficult to find two lenses exactly the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1026.44,1044.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Under the long lens is also more natural because more true, because your eyes also also doesn't see everything, you know. Sharp. Your eyes also. You know, see sharp. Only the object on which you are looking. What's behind nose before we tilted slightly out of focus. 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Did you attempt to stay with the 40 and 50 is as the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1182.82,1191.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes because it was the most natural distance. You know, you always it's I think it's also. If you, if you are like with them in the, in the room, in the room you will see always it it must have a certain distance and also it's, it's and the demands of the room, you know, which is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1192.12,1220.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The dimension.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1222.75,1222.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the oh dimension. It looks quite natural.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1223.33,1225.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Therefore Were you using studio cameras was wasn't large and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1226.02,1230.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know because of some. This I like to not post synchronize. I like to, you know, take the original sound during the shooting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1230.8,1245.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was going to ask you with that. How did you get those active scenes in the ballroom with that crowd around?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1246.27,1251.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was quite funny to watch because, you know. I had to make many shots when it was going dialog. And you see, you know, the whole bunch of people dancing, you know, and so and of course, you can't, you know, you can and you know how to say, take sound and the music because you can't you never really receive the continuity in that. But I had to have people dancing. 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And then before the camera started, I let the music play the rhythm, you know, and people started to, to dance. Then with the sign for camera to start shooting. The same sign was for music to stop, and the people had to continue in the dance without music in their songs. So and everybody had to, you know, I'm Just talking the way they. Just like that, you know. So to create the maximum of silence. So, you know, for somebody who was watching the shooting and didn't know the camera, it was like bunch of fools, you know that. And but it worked. It worked. We had contact sound, which I, which was, you know, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1305.83,1369.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. You so you used the actual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1370.12,1371.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Sure sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1372.55,1374.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I was wondering, I think it may have been. Don't. You you you you strict. It was strictly on the spot. No dubbing at all. Nothing. I like to go on now to the. I can we can talk about technique in terms of getting the performances to wait like. You've already mentioned some things about setting up the camera and everything ahead, making the camera away from as far away as possible from the phones using a long lens. One thing I noticed in Firemen's Ball was the what you believability of your extras, the people who were there in the crowd when they were looking, for instance. For the they're watching for the the girls, the candidates to come down the hallway or down the ballroom floor. They seem to really be looking for something. And I had I have never seen extras, you know, actually seem to be involved in such a way. I was wondering what you did to get the shots of this real total involvement on the part of such a large crowd, especially in the tighter. Shots you made of that sequence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1375.04,1464.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So they battle. We were looking for somebody. I think that the the, you know, to get this natural, you know, reactions from people is one thing which you know, is very helpful is to don't make people feel important. For example, in this in this shot, these people, I, I told them, no, I gathered people, you know, I how to say make a position, made a position, made to put camera in the position and everything. I told them that now they are we are making a shot. You know, when you know, the arrival of the beauty contestants is coming and they are here to, you know, way before the first battle and the first battle will come and they will clash for before the before this battle come. They just, you know, look from where the battle will come. So these people and these people didn't think that they are, you know, the, the, the, the focus is on them. For them. The more the important person in this shot is the girl who should come. So they were free, you know, to to everybody. You know who. The self-conscious of your own importance make up time. So first you must these people get rid of this their own importance. You know, they are free to, you know, be relaxed. And they did what they did. And sometimes you can help yourself with arranging one detail which maybe you don't notice exactly on the screen, but which you feel at which detail brings you the feeling of the truth. And it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1466.26,1599.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e An example that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1599.68,1600.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll give you. I'll tell you one thing we were talking about yesterday when I discovered this thing. When I was in 1956, I was working with Mr. Robert Woods, excellent director for Slovakia, on his film. And in this film. This film was about to have 1910, 1920s. And we wanted to create. It was about the, the first automobiles, you know, and this big inventions, crazy inventions, you know, and who appeared in the streets of Prague and Paris in that time, you know, the beginning of the century. And we had a series of shots how this, you know, crazy inventions, for example, an automobile. You know, I, I don't know, the food was a Hot Wheels, you know, which really existed in the time for the first time is going through the streets of Paris, you know, and people are gathering and staring on this monster, you know, and running after them and like that. And we wanted that. This shot looks like a real newsreel from that time. And. A little bit by chance, how, you know, to create this authenticity. And it was just this one little detail That we had this moment. Coming through the street. Hundreds of people running after that. And just one man coming out of from this monster toward the camera. Like nothing is happening behind him, you know, like there is not nothing, you know, interesting behind him. And this one man gave such a this illogical moment because the logic is that everybody's interested in the monster. This one illogical thing that there is somebody who is would take no care about, you know, this monster coming just like that, you know, toward the camera gave fantastic, you know, feeling of the reality or the truth or the authenticity. And so sometimes now consciously, if you have a crowd which is doing more or less, you know what everybody is expecting, they will do. Just to put one detail which is illogical, can make this short very real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1600.94,1755.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And, you know, even if all the other part is a little bit fake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1756.96,1759.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Because it's the you know what the the reality is fantastic in one thing that not everything is logical. What we are doing, you know. And this things, this little details, the logical details which are coming out are making the reality more real than you know. For example, if you watch people's eyes, for example, actors trained in the theater and watch sometimes what people's eyes are doing and you will see how they behave logically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1760.35,1800.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1802.5,1802.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, for example, if there is a dialog in the theater, you know, among us. So we. Because I'm talking to you. I'm looking in your eyes and talking to you. And then only if I want, you know, to show that I feel ashamed. So I close my eyes. And I do that to. But watch this scene among all the people in the restaurant. How the eyes are, you know, how to say relaxed, how they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1803.43,1837.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1838.31,1838.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Illogically. They look nonsense. They are looking at nonsense. You know, they are like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1838.74,1844.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So even when at moments that are important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1845.55,1848.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure sure, sure. So this illogical moves are bringing this fantastic, you know, authenticity in the face of people. And so this sometimes you can create consciously just putting these illogical details, you know, on the screen, in the crowd or in the face or in the action, which helps you in know to create this fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1848.43,1877.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm talking motion is not Italy is not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1877.96,1880.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Suggesting how are we doing on the film. There we run. Okay, here we go. But. I want to know. I think that, you know, we've talked about differences yourself, but both of you are fantastic, successful in getting total relaxation out of your people. They're not only do they forget about the camera, but they seem to go beyond forgetting. And then they and they behave. They they are they exist somehow, you know. Really. And and in a Bresson picture, for instance, man, I admire very much, he's doing something else. And you don't feel that you're watching behavior, you're watching something that's another politicized but With your thing. It's almost. It seems miraculous to me. It's not cinema verité, which is, you know, going in and photographing people in their everyday lives because it what you do is very often, especially in intimate lighting. You have the feeling that this is what cinema verité should be. Were you able to find the ideal moments which were expressive and yet they were totally real in the everyday since? I was noticing one thing while we were trying to get started here. How uptight. In a sense, we were. Here we are, three directors talking about how to work with non-actors, how to put everybody at ease. Anyways, sitting here frozen like little igloos. Yeah. So what do you do? What would you do right now if you were directing and you were trying to put people at ease in a scene to say they had three people around the table talking about the what? What would you like to do? What would solution and pop in your mind? I think we all know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1881.14,1993.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's wrong with trying to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1993.95,1995.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think we all felt this. This tenseness. Yeah. You know, we were trying to be. We were trying to make it very much. It is because we were eating breakfast and my wife's coming in with the pot of coffee. Everything is there to make everything look relaxed. And instead they just inversed the roll. And they all became. It all became tense. Every object suddenly became a problem. Yeah. You were putting your your foot down on the floor and we were hiding the coffee pot, trying to keep the, the, the napkins out of the way of your face. And a lot of times what what what what's the problem we have to confront. You're right. Okay. What did you change when we get into this? Okay, well, I had to run it out because we can't change it. Okay. How much is over? 40s. Okay. Well, we'll we'll wait. Is where's the matter? Are you. Are you with me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=1995.69,2047.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2047.64,2047.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe we can. You can you give me examples? Yeah. First, how you worked on scenes in your film. Then maybe that applies to this problem. Just wait a week. This is an Andy Warhol movie. Where were you going to show him? Front and back. You know this camera?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2049.639,2071.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2072.56,2072.739"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not sure. Have you check this out to make sure we're getting sound?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2075.42,2079.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. It's perfect. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2080.719,2082.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. Yes. If you run out of this, we run out of tape in the middle of a real yell, and we have to stop. But yeah, I can hear it. Push the button. I can hear you. I know, What you're hearing now is the sword. You push the button, you hear, which is good. Well, all right is the answer is, you know. Are you hearing something quite well. Okay. It's. You're hearing it backwards. I mean, with a retard delay, right? Seems like a delay like this. Then something's wrong with you. Are we running now? Yeah. Well, why don't you tell me? All right. It's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2082.58,2141.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So let's try. Let's say I think that the first condition is to find the right people. Because if you take somebody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2143.67,2151.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Late, would you check there is a delay? Okay. You're okay. We're all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2152.43,2155.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2155.94,2156.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If you're home now that we've admitted the technique into the third week in the home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2157.2,2160.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What was what was the problem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2160.8,2161.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing was wrong. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2162.3,2163.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because if you take somebody who's nature is, you know that he is not able to relax. You know, he's always uptight. You never will, you know, teach him how to be natural in front of camera. You have to find right people whose nature is you know, who and joy to perform themselves and themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2165.06,2188.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Yes. Great character. Not another character, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2189.36,2192.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but, you know, first you have two choices. You can be lucky, and you will find somebody who exactly fit in the character in the script. So with this man, you leave him to do nothing because he will. 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They could say, you know, in the life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2216.6,2260.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But yes, there's more coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2262.15,2264.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So the other thing is, which I think it's important to don't let them to learn by heart the dialogs. Even if you need to have an exact dialog, you know you must do it on the set. This man is coming in front of the camera. Knowing nothing what he will say. And now you fix the camera, you prepare the lighting. And now you start to talk with this actor. Now, now you listen, I need to. You are coming here. You just say it, you know? And that is this man. And you tell him this and this and this and this and this and what? That's what I am doing. That I'm a little bit acting for him. How? 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I want him, you know, to use the. You understand what I mean? Yeah. Because the visual memory sometimes uptight your eyes, you know, you can see it in some movies, even among the actors, that sometimes the exercise has a very not present. I understand you know what it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2316.36,2343.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2344.3,2344.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He is trying to see the paper where the lines were written, you know. It's so. 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You look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2442.2,2483.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e For them in action.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2483.45,2484.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In action, in action. Then we have a first version. Then we we are looking for right people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2484.32,2493.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2493.68,2494.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Person, first mention of the screenplay. Then we are looking for the people. Then we try to know them. And this is very important. Yeah, you know that. You ask. You said. So what do you will do now with this mouse? I would be honest with you because I do not know, you know. You know, I don't know what what to ask me for. Because I must know you. I must see you in many moments of where you are. Relax where you are. You know, you you don't perform at all for anybody. And then I can know what's your best quality, you know, as a person how you can express yourself. And so we try to know them. 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Yes. Then we are writing the second version of the screenplay, and we are using the their own vocabulary in lines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2559.84,2568.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, so you've taken some of the scenes in intimate lighting, for instance. Did you work out to one of the scenes in that in this version? After the first version?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2568.69,2578.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yes. I, for example, this dialog around the radio, you know, they they talk together. So I, I, I made test with them the same dialog and then, then you, you remember and you know their own rhythm of the language. You know how they use the language. And so you change some that you have the same sense of it, but you change some words from their vocabulary because everybody has his own. You know, he's using some words many times, you know, because I don't know pauses and you know. 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And then they don't need too much time to remember these lines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2578.84,2644.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2645.86,2645.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And just before they remember them. So we are shooting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2646.52,2650.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And this is true even for a scene with a with quite a lot of dialog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2651.17,2654.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Absolutely. It's all because the road. You know, it's always five six if you want to main characters you know. So with these people we are doing this. And also during the shooting we always try to have them around us even if they don't work. And then you you have a time to to watch them because they are not they are relaxed because you are working with somebody else. But you always sometimes are watching. 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So. For example, you can use very simple trick that people are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2711.29,2720.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Working on getting it right. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2722.76,2726.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Robert use. You know people. People. Always. People are becoming more uptight when they feel that now important moment is coming in your life. It's always like that. Now you are becoming more up time. So you can use this trick that if you feel that somebody is becoming, you know, uptight. So you just talk. Okay, so now we let's make this shot. Now you will say this and this and this, do this and this and this. Now, this is not important. And now you must say this, and this is the important moment of this shot. But you know that this will not be never in the film. It could be anything. So that man, you know, this is not important. Okay. He goes very well through that. And now he's, you know, now is his moment when he, you know, this is, you know, and then you cut it and it's out. And only the good part. Right. So, you know, you use tricks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2730.65,2796.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember the mother from Black Peter that you started?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2797.37,2800.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2801.75,2802.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And sheet we started with and would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2804.09,2809.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Come in on the third. On about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2812.82,2818.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So the politicians will visit the crisis in the back seat. You'll. All right. So that looks amazing. Here. Let me put this here. So now they be watching you perfectly. Watch your step, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2818.48,2832.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What? Because. What about the mother?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2833.77,2834.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So then, you know, started to shoot a scene. First time is a mother in the black pizza. And she was very, very appetite. And she was like a nonprofessional theater stage actor. You know, these folk groups, you know, and it was terrible. And, you know, she was quite desperate. And and he was sitting right there and he said, I'd. Lunch or lunchtime at 10:00 in the morning. So people left and then we didn't know what to do. And suddenly. We told her that, don't you know we don't need any kind of acting because it why we. Took her to the film is because her eyes. We need her eyes. Nothing else. There you go. You can do with your eyes. You know, you said you have beautiful eyes. We need your eye, that's all. From that moment, she was perfect. And it was sort of a miracle. I always remember that. Not really. It worked. I don't know exactly why. 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In some way, these people feel moral responsibility to observe them for professional actors, you know, so they are very shaky few.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2924.47,2969.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And you can tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2971.06,2971.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Them the truth. You can tell that to the professional actors. You know, this was very bad. Some professional actors like it. They It provokes them to to work. You know, if the director doesn't say them, if the director just is saying it's okay, it's okay. They start to be nervous. They like, you know, if you you shout on them, it is terrible. What did you read? You know. And then at the end of the day, you all. Now it was great. You know they like it. These people, it's much more. They think everything's more slow, you know? Seriously, these people are. It's very dangerous, you know, to tell them, you know, it was bad. It was wrong because they don't know why it was wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=2971.72,3013.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And also, you can hurt them very easily. You know, you must be very careful not only how you behave to them, but the mood of all shooting. You know, how to how you behave to technicians and and to your assistants and to everybody. If it's relax. And if you if, if, if you create a mood that is that it's not. They find that you enjoy Everybody, you know, and everybody is really relaxed and kind. 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Do you work on this consciously beforehand or as you're shooting to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3044.1,3055.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Create this atmosphere for your. Sure. That's very important. It's very important that everybody feels well in your company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3055.8,3062.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you do it? That's how did you do it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3062.82,3067.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you are an actor in that you act. This is your part in the film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3068.52,3075.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e First thing you must decide your own, you know, weaknesses, your own hesitations, your own uncertainties. You know, you they must really feel. Yeah, that we have nothing to worry about. This man knows everything, you know. He must be, you know, get rid of all kind of worrying, you know, to get rid of, you know, I had no I had a terrible experience in loves of a blond or if you remember, the three soldiers. So two of them are nonprofessional actors, people whom I know I knew already many, many years. They were in the same school as I was, you know, and one of them is a professional actor, but, you know, really professional. He made about, I don't know, 60 films, you know, and working on the theme of theater. Excellent actor, great actor. What happened was that when we started shooting, he became so uptight by the simplicity and natural way how the two nonprofessionals are behaving and talking that he started to torture them. Yeah. He was jealous. You know, this is the actor's complex. You know, this is one. This is one of a very important thing that it's difficult with young people, but with, you know, middle generation and older people, it's very easy. These people are very relaxed because this is not their profession. They are not worried about the success. You know, professional actor knows that he exists and his life depends on if he will be good or bad. So he wants very hardly to be good. And this makes you a little bit uptight. But because he's professional, he knows how to overcome. But you feel it. Oh, it's a little bit. These people are absolutely relaxed because you must, you know, never you you you you never. I talk to them. You will become an actor now and like that. No. Just enjoy this game with us. Because you are, I don't know. You are an engineer. And this is just, you know, to enjoy yourself. And then you will continue as your engineer. You are not depend on this kind of work. You know, if you are good or bad, you know, that's my problem. That's not your problem because your life doesn't depend on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3076.5,3230.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Does this mean that that no professional actor, or let's say, most professional actors, could not give the kind of performance that we found in them at lighting or in. So you mean you could not use professional?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3230.71,3246.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You can, you can, yes, you can. You can. Certain actors and who has certain how to say. A capability to do it. You can I like to work with in love so blind I have two professionals, you know really professionals. The young boys, you know very well known professionally. You know, the first start. Just for luck in cinema and you can use them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3247.33,3275.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe also. You know, it's it's difficult to know them, to know professional actors because they they sold their personality many roles in radio, television, and they always are acting a little bit that they themselves, they for them, it's difficult to know who they are. And so that also for me is difficult to recognize who that was, their real quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3276.44,3302.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, so that you it's difficult to know the person. Yes. And find out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3303.65,3307.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. But these people, you know, they they are giving whole experience of life in quite a simple way. And you can know it. You can recognize what, what kind of person he really is. Yeah. And then he's giving me all this. But with actors it's it's very difficult because they know why. For example, they think they know why they are famous. They try to sell it. You know again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3307.55,3336.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Are they going to give you some of what they did before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3336.97,3338.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. You know they know they know where their success was. Yeah. This success is a certainty for them. And they try to save themselves to repeat this certainty, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3338.82,3351.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And they fight too easy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3352.11,3352.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Let's go on now to a scene. I'd like to take one scene at your choice of the one where you that perhaps you're the most proud of in terms of the performance in one of these two films. If not, I could give you an example. Well, I select one, but I'd like to know how you directed. In your case, I think the most the longest prolonged performance was the drunk sequence, which to my mind demanded a tremendous amount of real involvement in the scene which the at the end at night when Peter and Barnabas are getting drunk and they finally burst into song with where he starts to try to make the zoom thing with his thumb on the table and finds the tablecloth stopping the noise, and then pulls the tablecloth up and does it again. And it works. And then the thing builds, and Bombas builds on that, and I think it's a marvelous, marvelous thing. And what's so amazing about it is that I have the impression that the idea is, for instance, the idea to turn the tablecloth up happened at that moment. I mean, you know, there's something in an actor. You can see that it's a sense of timing and that he did it and he does it beautifully. But here it looked like the idea had occurred, you know, and you're that scene and many other moments in it of your film heart are loaded with these, these sort of first time type of New things that appear that way. 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3463.67,3464.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And and they like to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3465.85,3468.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, and this was a musician.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3468.94,3469.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And he was a real musician. And it was his idea, you know, and he I said, look, now I what I knew that I would I wanted Satch Time, the same song which was played on the funeral that because he is alone and that he remembers and and and Bambi's reaction then that he's ashamed that he remembers him to the funeral, you know, and that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3470.5,3501.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He remembers that I asked him, yes, funeral music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=3502.21,3504.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So I ask him to, to to do it and slowly start to, to sing it. 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Because at the beginning, when the film begins, the audience can accept anything. You can do anything we want at the beginning because everybody is waiting. What's what will happen later, you know, so you can make the whole big improvizations and everything at the beginning. But at the end, you know, the audience is already let's impatience with the rhythm must be, you know, exact. So here you can't allow that these people will go in the, in the river of words. You know, it must be really the dialog, exactly how it's written, you know, to go with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4106.72,4148.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But one other thing. Yeah. 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You got enough on there to last? Another real or not yet? Yeah. Well, this is great. I mean, I think this is very, very valuable. I should I should be telling you, it's not important at all. Okay. 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We've just been looking at the shadows. You know, it's it's great. I don't have any why in there, you know. With you right now, we don't need the keys over there. Is there as a word of expression that I can't play? I don't think your eyes will never let us hear. More spread. Oh, do you need. Where did you fellas go from here to California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4209.15,4260.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Las Vegas, just for one day. And then we are going back to New York just to see how Las Vegas looks like. During a feast tonight. 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So it made him, you know, more relaxed when he had this possibility to walk, you know. So the reason was real, you know, practical. 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These two performances for me are absolutely remarkable because, like your performances, they had shapes to them and they changed from one thing a moment to the next. I mean, the knowing the person the performers went through emotional transitions. You understand what I'm I mean, to give a very obvious example, is when Joseph looks under the table and shocked. You know, that's that's a very good example of what I'm talking about. But there are many, many others where you get a change of mood and a change of attitude. This is really a performance. It's a real performance. It isn't using the actor for simple things, but for his or the non-actor the for his capacity really to carry the lead. To lead. What's going on? How did you what were these people like and how did you work with them? 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You now look under the table and you're shocked and you don't know what to do, you know, but the rhythm and you know how long because what's beautiful is that's how long he stares, you know, that's him. That's his personality that he's. You know. That's how he did it. How you know, he felt it. It's you. Very often you as a director are amazed by you actors. And that's what I like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4739.58,4775.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you give him the scene? You just told him what you wanted?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4776.84,4779.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Just very simply. Very simply. You know, I don't like to talk to. It's I almost don't explain the psychological background of the action, just really, you know, the mechanical I'm mechanically describing them. And if I'm giving them, you know, imposing them how psychologically they should be sad or gay, you know, in naive terms, talking. 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So listen now you you you know, you you you know that somebody must be under the table. And so you want to look and suddenly you see something which, you know, it shouldn't happen. They a couple that you know, if I tell you this way. So I'm imposing you a little bit. You are watching me. I'm imposing you the mood in which this man should be, you know, is something else is okay with their shit. You know, I'm imposing another mode to you and what to do and, you know, repeat it more or less. You will do it your way by, but you will keep the mood from me. So I am not telling you that you are uptight and like that. No, I'm showing you, you know, like very simply. And you keep the mood automatically without knowing. 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So these things the people must know so that they know that everything is possible. They are free to react on everything. Everything is part of play. Everything is part of play, you know? So they are ready to accept that suddenly something happened which they don't know. And sometimes you use it, you know consciously that you say to somebody, you know, and now you start to talk about that and contact him this way and you will see the reaction sometimes is bad. Okay. Then you start to work on what you want. Sometimes is excellent. So you keep it. It's better than you could imagine before, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4898.85,4978.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When when the small door man with the glasses was protesting that what was what is what did he serve? You know, they couldn't keep the people out. What what good was his life? What was he the what was he there? 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How did that how did you get that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4991.45,4997.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How you remember it. What middle. Sure. So sometimes he's doing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=4998.2,5002.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How we are. Yeah. So. You know we have but that's easy as. That to. Gary, how are you doing on tape? Okay. Oh, we're on, we're on even. Okay. When I ask you about the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5006.03,5035.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5036.28,5036.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The what do you call?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5037.54,5038.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember, especially this scene. That middle shoot. They started to understand was going on that they must fight, you know, together. And back in the rehearsals was much more shorter. And then they felt that it would be maybe 10s. And then Milos let camera going. He didn't say cut it. And they felt that they must continue. So they continued, you know, which is a lot of what we do. And she is doing this, you know, she's doing very often, for example, but also LeBron with these three soldiers, you know, when it's good and they are good. So you let it go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5038.5,5082.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And they know, they know they you you you you you teach them that they must go forward till you say stop, you know. So they go, they go. There you go. But sometimes very beautiful things are coming out. You know, you rehearse just, you know, I don't know for lines. 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Did you tell him to be excited?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5109.3,5114.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure sure sure, sure. Yeah. Mostly this direct way. The showing him, you know, the way how he should talk, you know, so like, you know, this is this is another thing which is quite interesting to know. It was interesting for me when I found out. And I was became too aware of all these things. For example, this man, this bald man. 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You understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5210.15,5212.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In certain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5213.09,5213.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Way. So for these people, suddenly this opportunity, they feel that they are doing something which is bringing a new value in their own lives. And it's, you know, make them, you know, more. They are much more how to say. Ready, you know, to be opened to you to give their best. Then many actors stars who are a little bit maybe tired already. You understand what I mean? And especially in some way, tragically, was this case of this man. This man knew that he's going to die very soon. He was very, you know, heavily ill. He had a cancer, this man, and he was so happy at the end. And he knew at the end of his life he's doing something which will rest, which will stay here. That he was really you know, he was fantastic. He was fantastic. 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I really love it. And I'm, I'm so anxious, you know, to see it in on the screen. What you did. He started to cry. He was crying tears, you know, and he was thinking to me how you know what? Wow. It was fantastic that he could do something for, for us and like that. So. But.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5280.92,5318.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think right now what I'd like to do, having looked at the way you, your technique, your and your directing of the nonprofessional actor is to talk in a little time, we have left before you have to leave about the structuring of this kind of film. Many people see your films and say it's a slice of life. 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Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5321.43,5397.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, practically. Yes. Practically, yes. You know, not everyday writing, you know, but to to work to think about, you know, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5398.75,5406.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So this is not in a slice of life. But tell me if you can help me out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5407.51,5412.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You about this is very difficult.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5414.23,5416.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So there's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5418.49,5418.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5419.21,5419.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The contradiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5420.77,5421.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, is the only thing I know that we really spend a lot of time on, you know, on the script, you know, this construction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5423.29,5431.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. This interests me also very much because when we start the new picture, we always are asking each other how we did it before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5431.99,5441.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And so we would like to repeat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5443.36,5445.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And we we we we we are in trouble. You never know. But so our posteriori. This this is what I know now what I will say is not what we knew before. You know what I think after that? That first. We had to start. Look for example, five is more, you know. First. It's a sort of attack or picture attacking something. Yes. Some the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5447.2,5488.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Whole picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5489.11,5489.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is the whole picture. So this is something what keeps you, you know, to go ahead because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5489.68,5496.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You say it's it's being critical of something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5497.22,5499.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Okay. And so if I would like to, to express it in words. So I think that we call it the dramaturgy of permanent crisis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5499.35,5516.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Dramaturgy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5517.98,5517.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Or dramaturgy of permanent crisis. Then each in each these people are going from one small little crisis. Crisis to another. One small one small little disaster to another world. And disaster, I mean not, I mean everything. Small problem. Do another one. They don't change the whole picture. You know, it's against the the the the old dramaturgy, the old Greek, let's say, you know, when the character is going or in O'Neill's pieces? Yes. Or I don't know. To Miller, you know that character develops. Yes. And he's changed. And these people never change. They are always the same. They are going from one crisis to another, like in life, like we are one small disaster that we are maybe more time invisible and and and the, the real tension or let's say plot or something which keep the audience on the seat watching it. It's, it's what's the metaphor of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5518.73,5592.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is a metaphor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5592.83,5593.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I hope so, you know, that, you know, we are always discussing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5593.85,5598.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, what do you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5599.82,5600.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean that during the picture they just starts to to be suspicious that this picture is also about something else, that it's that it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5601.71,5613.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Only just about fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5614.08,5614.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, about something else. And they, they start to to to recognize that you are also talking indirectly or they, they collaborate with you. Maybe they are imposing their own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5615.46,5629.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5629.89,5630.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. The audience is reading between the lines and, and that's they try to know if it's true or not, if they are right or not, you know, and and and that and what you will say really about this, you know, how it will continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350#t=5630.58,5646.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141794/file/262350/transcript/76720/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Where you got you get the coming and say, okay, we got another fight. You know, there's a book. That's this is worth us. And then we get the way, you know, great. If you want some more Market moving. No, I don't want to go. Just run it off and quit. 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