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There's three houses across the board. Well, I skipped in my testimony trying to get somebody inside of where I'm coming from in regard to cost. I think you should keep in mind, cost, what would the road to it cost, the county had to buy. Well, what I skipped is my testimony, trying to be shorter than that. I think at one time I was told what we could fill that. Well, of course, since this picture is taken, there's three houses across the road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=694.15,730.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Have that into that bridge come out and say, and yet they have gotten their shit together and become diversification witness and then go. I'm trying to eliminate or only use things where we can't, so that does talk about mental health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=815.11,830.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you ready for stand up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=846.55,847.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't, I think it's ridiculous how far it takes them. You know they're having such a good time. Oh, really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=848.32,853.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No kidding? I like that picture of that. You know what they're adding there? I know they're giving setup. Is that a lost river? Much better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=854.88,863.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Coming the wrong way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=884.03,884.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You can serve it, you're the guy who can do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=887.03,889.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e God, it's going to be a gorgeous day. That's nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=933.71,938.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not yet, I'm shooting this backlit smoke right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=939.56,941.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A, we use different things like recess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=965.77,968.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e We have been living this year within the 19.5 to 1 ratio. I am not saying that that is the best way to live. Not because it's palatable to me at all. I make it because I simply don't know where else to look. I cannot. Pass a 64 million dollar budget and take it out to the people because I don't think that it shows that we have been fiscally responsible. We have been living this year within the 19.5 to 1 ratio. I am not saying that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=969.6,1013.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e That it's a poor idea, educationally, that if we were going to undertake to make some cuts that were going hurt us, why would we choose the classroom? Now, we've had to do that before, but it's never been anything we've chosen to do lightly, and again, I think it's not the time to do it, because I think we ought to at least give the voters an opportunity to rule on a budget that includes a staffing ratio that's at least closer to what we would agree is educationally sound. Raise your hand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1016.16,1039.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Opposed? Motion carries eight to six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1045.49,1050.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e That's quite a doorstop you've got there. Oh, I've got a chamber to do it. It's not stuffed though. How's it going? Keep it dry today? Yeah, we're having trouble with the boilers. Yeah, I talked to Jack a couple of times. He thinks that power surge might have taken off. He was starved. Yeah, if I had a school field come down to replace those, he would be back on line again. I'm worried about him. 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If that's the case, I have difficulty supporting that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1614.09,1624.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The council changes in the city policy hearing established by the resolution of the applications. The proposed language requires a valid word, mandatory and be for her once a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1624.79,1634.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e So that would be the position that I would have to support.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1637.97,1639.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think that's, in essence, probably what it's saying today. The reason we just use such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1640.57,1645.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't want to respond in kind, but maybe not as much as they want. He needed a reason to tee off on me because his hand was just ever so slightly in the cookie jar and I mentioned it. In what way? When it's a small amount, how could you tell whether they correctly did it or not? About the only answer is that if they want to use it as a business expense and for those who really big operations like Pacific Power and Light or the phone company where they may have two people working full-time, I encourage you to change it. You didn't know you were going to do that, but I'm going to call it. Once each session the party that's out calls on the party in to clean up their act. Our act actually has been pretty clean. I don't want to respond in kind. I haven't really been gone, although I certainly have continued to work to hold down the costs of those dead nuclear plants, and I'm not going to give up on that. It's really more than $100 million I've saved so far for the Northwest. I put in enough hours that if Senator Meeker would come with me, he's a good senator, he is an able fellow, if he'd just come and work alongside me the same number of hours the state of Oregon would be benefited.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1711.24,1791.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Five years ago, timber like this was auctioned to private mills for about $200 per thousand board feet. But as experts predicted increased demand for wood and as inflation soared ever upward, the bids for these trees went up to as high as $700 per thousand board feet, but high interest rates burst the bubble and demand for wooden collapsed. Northwest mill owners were stuck with contracts guaranteed to lose lots of money. On Wednesday, Oregon Senator Mark Hatfield re-introduced legislation to give those mill owners some measure of relief. That bill authorizes the Forest Service and the BLM to terminate up to 40% of those contracts. It will also allow timber companies to wait up to five years before cutting stands under other contracts. Small and medium sized timber companies stand to gain the most from the bill. That's because they rely almost exclusively on government timber for their mills. The Northwest Timber Association represents those small mills, Martin Devere of that organization predicts disaster for the working man if the bill doesn't pass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1850.37,1908.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Everyone gets hurt to a certain extent but in actuality the owners may be hurt the least uh... Most of these people have uh... 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Bob Lindsay of AOL thinks some bailout is necessary, but he wants some guarantee that extensions don't cut off the flow of timber.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1923.19,1947.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the thing that bothers us is if we offer a five-year extension with no extension payments or penalties, that we could be in the same situation again in five years, depending upon our economy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1948.23,1962.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Lindsay says the most important thing to loggers is that a decision be made soon so they can get back out to the timber stands and start cutting. Jack Hammond, Eyewitness News.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1963.07,1971.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e Things like black holes and white holes, the Big Bang and the Big Crunch. Oh, I can also say something about gravitational waves and gravitational lenses, about what these ideas are and where they come from, and whether we might see them someday. I remember reading about Aristotle, and I thought that all Aristotle ever did was produce The Big Crunch would be a play, if that were to happen, it would certainly be something that none of us would particularly survive. Fortunately, if it were to happened, it would be many billions of years away, because we're still expanding. So it's going to at least take as long as it took from the Big Bang, which was probably five billion years or so. The laws of physics to what the laws of physics people always think Galileo was way back there. But he was offered the first professorship in physics at Harvard University. Now, then it was probably you could have filled a couple of Harvard's into Dee Dee Hall. But still, it was quite interesting. Um, but the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=1986.13,2049.139"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Out of 655, not that quick, there wasn't anything to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2062.21,2066.929"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Good to see you ladies. Have fun. Nice to see ya.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2068.42,2071.219"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, sorry. Is this Ferber? No. Red. All right. Okay, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2077.55,2098.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e Why would anybody bother?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2100.7,2101.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e For three people. Well, they don't have a choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2102.03,2105.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Insufficient funds are going to be proposed by the budget to meet any of these requirements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2119.47,2122.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e The revenue anticipated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2124.37,2124.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I know who it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2127.12,2127.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e It's necessary for me to either impersonal or by phone, while we track them while they're in the day. Not surprisingly, there are a number of inmates that are making the corrections. The logical way to walk through this is to talk about records, because we do have to maintain records by law. We have to do a lot of different things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2134.3,2156.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e For the past two evenings, Eyewitness News has been bringing you a look at the pros and the cons of a bill that would preserve an additional 1.2 million acres of wilderness here in Oregon, an area roughly the size of Delaware. On Wednesday, Jack Hammond told us why environmentalist groups think that bill is important. Last night, Scott Miller told us, why other Oregonians think the bill would be a disaster. Well, tonight, both Jack and Scott are with us to put both sides of this controversy in perspective. Gentlemen. We'll see you next time. Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2171.29,2197.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, Don. To start with, let's recap just why this wilderness bill in the forum passed by the House of Representatives last month has some people so worried. First and foremost is the jobs issue. The bill's opponents say more wilderness means less jobs. They also say reducing the timber harvest slashes the amount of money that goes back to the counties for roads and schools. Furthermore, opponents say that not many people use the wilderness, and those that do tend to stick to only the most spectacular scenery. Along the same lines, they claim the majority of Oregonians are against the bill, especially those who live closest to the proposed additions. And finally, opponents promise they would support a reasonable wilderness bill, like the 400,000 or so acres identified by the Rare II process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2198.66,2239.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Now on the other side of the coin, environmental groups, environmentalist groups that is, are big supporters of the bill in the way that it's now written. First, much of the land is unsuitable for timber harvest. For example, in the controversial Middle Santiam area, soil is dangerously unstable. That means that roads and logging will create large slides, and efforts to reforest will meet with minimal success. Second, even if logging were feasible, they say that the old growth in the proposed wilderness areas has invaluable merit for the protection of wildlife, fish, watershed, and the genetic diversity of the trees themselves. Finally, the undeniable lure for wilderness is recreation. Not only for traditional hiking, boating and skiing, but also for the almost spiritual experience that one gets when surrounded by trees that go far beyond one's lifetime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2241.57,2288.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e As you can tell, a wilderness controversy is a very divisive issue with two very clear-cut sides. If you're smart, you'll take both sides with a grain of salt. Here's an example why. The Forest Service tells us that both sides are using statistics as far as the value of certain timberland that are exaggerated, exaggerated to suit their argument. And both of those figures in both cases come from the Forest Service itself. For example, as far the environmental side is concerned, supporters of the bill, They're using yield statistics that average out all forest land in Oregon. When you take a productive piece of timber land like the middle Saniam, that's going to be underestimated as far as how much wood is going to come off it. On the other side of the coin, timber groups are taking more revised figures, but those figures take into account everything you can get off an acre of land, slash, cull logs, everything, and you wouldn't get half of those products if you didn't cut the trees in the first place, so the Forest Service tells us those are overestimated. This is something you'll find again and again in this controversy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2290.56,2347.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, another good example, jobs have got to be the hottest issue here, and the job numbers are equally distorted. As a matter of fact, the folks who want less wilderness say that almost 6,000 jobs, sometimes more, would be lost. But that fails to take into account that multiplier effects that they're using are sometimes inappropriate. A multiplier effect is where, when I get a paycheck, I'm going to pay somebody else, somebody else pays somebody else and you get it through there. In a rural area that isn't used as extensively as in an urban area. Secondly, automation is taking over the timber industry. That's something that clearly has been said over and over again by folks. And there are not going to be as many jobs strictly because there's automation. Third, the timber people say that it takes a whole lot of public investment in order to put in roads, to put in the engineering, that sort of stuff. And that up to $30 million could possibly be used to get other kinds of jobs. Timber folks may be exaggerating on their jobs amount, and of course the environmental folks are maybe too low on the spectrum. They say almost none of the jobs could be taken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2347.9,2410.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Jack, what about the issue of litigation, the issue of locking up the remaining land that has been considered for wilderness under the RARE 2 process? What did the environmentalists say about that issue?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2410.61,2419.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Both of us found that there's some real interesting areas where both sides agree. And both sides agreed that probably the worst thing could happen is to not have any bill at all. Because right now, there are 3 million acres out there that are in what's called de facto wilderness. And if nothing happens with that bill, then all 3 million will prevent anybody from having a job. Whereas if this bill goes through in whatever form, they will unlock all of that other land. And the litigation thing you refer to is there's parts in the bill that say there will be no necessity for a rare 3 study, and you avoid the possible litigation that they had in California that says that rare 2 and others are invalid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2420.02,2458.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Now on a local level we should emphasize that the Willamette National Forest doesn't necessarily see things that way. The Willamett National Forest does have an approved management plan. As you can see in this map of the South Santa Ana Planning Unit, which is the area up in East Lynn County that we've been focusing on recently, the Forest Service knows what it wants to do with the federal land in East Linn County. The areas you see in brown and red would be preserved as roadless areas. The Willambette National forest is using the plan now, so land tied up pending the of the wilderness issue is land that would be tied up anyway and furthermore Forest Service officials believe that this would all stand up in court. There's also another big issue, aside from the litigation, and that's what's going to happen in Congress. It's important to realize that the bill that has been passed in the House still has to go through the Senate. And most observers, just about all observers, will tell you that when it gets through the Senate it will be much different than it is right now. One thing that's been talked about is tying timber relief legislation to the Wilderness Bill as it goes through the Senate. What have you found out in your research on the subject as far as support for this type of idea?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2459.26,2524.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e I think this would be the second interesting area where a lot of groups interestingly agree. Many environmentalists would say, well, if it takes a timber relief bill, that is relieving some of the timber companies of the contracts that they've committed to that were much too high a couple years ago, if takes attaching that in order to get more wilderness, then maybe they'll support that combination.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2525.1,2544.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e It's interesting, I really found split opinions as far as attaching timber relief to the wilderness package. I found that timber industry people were generally very supportive of that idea. They felt A, it would give the bill the best chance of getting through, and B, they get a little bit of both worlds. They'll probably get a wilderness bill that's substantially less as it comes through the Senate. That's almost guaranteed if they get one at all. And they'll also get the timber relief they've been wanting so badly. So it really there really is no definite conclusion as to whether that would help or hurt one thing that keep in mind to show You the complex politics of this issue is that you take a look at the southern lobby, right? This is going to be something that will weigh very heavily politically as this bill goes through the Senate The south is the next largest or maybe even the largest now timber producing area That's a big competitor of the northwest the south would is very very opposed to timber relief legislation because it gives northwest operators, they feel a competitive advantage. However, they're in favor of wilderness legislation because it takes more Northwest land out of timber production. This is the type of power politics that you run into in an issue like this. Of course, the ironic thing is, is that we're talking about wilderness land in Oregon, and actually the people that will be affected by it live very close to the wilderness. The people that will be making the decisions may live thousands and thousands of miles away. Don?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2545.69,2626.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e And there you have it, an in-depth look at one of the biggest issues facing this state. Now one last thing, as Jack and Scott just told us, Oregon's Senator Mark Hatfield will be the man who guides this bill through the United States Senate. When Senator Hatfield was in town last weekend, he told us his bill will certainly contain less acreage than passed by the House.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2628.01,2644.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But it will not have that number of acres, anywhere near the number of acres that have passed the House. I'm not going to get into a numbers game because it depends on the quality of the land you're trying to protect and the uniqueness of the land rather than just a matter of the numbers game of acres. And it may also include a timber relief provision that we have introduced in the Senate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2645.66,2668.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, Hapfield does believe tying those two measures together would help them both gain passage. Now, to emphasize that it is quality, not quantity, that's important in his mind, says he could find a million acres for wilderness in Oregon that no one would even miss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485#t=2669.4,2683.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/70539/file/156485/transcript/86780/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e And we'll be right back in a moment. 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