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That's great for par right now. Yeah and I didn't yeah that didn't prevent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=4.44,10.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Having for the mother of actor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=13.65,17.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What. Yeah. And I used I used that as an example in my conversation. 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All right. And that is very real and everything when it comes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=38.04,45.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Up like that. And so I said, well, let's take this. You know, we were saying, I get to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=45.57,52.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e The this program where we were talking about reality the poetry reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=52.71,59.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=61.01,61.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And how they want to get it, you know, off the hook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=62.63,65.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And but look at the scene where the father from home bragging. Sorry for doing it early. And and I said, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=67.16,77.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Everything about the scene is completely not only believable, but it has a ring of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=78.29,83.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Intensity to it. You have the beating, the what you see is what you were saying about what happened that night. And yet this scene has so much and so much else to it. It is not redundant. They do not say one word each other. They do not. Yeah. There's nothing there's no one line open. I brought this for Doug and. And I said the rest of the people in the middle, like the old father realized what had happened by just by the intensity of the mother's reaction, and then go in search of it. 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But I just screamed for the word. But, you know, they were there fighting together. This. Then you ready, Shankar? He went over that. The whole thing. Until something like that to get him right. You know, I thought to write this crude one over the word. Well. No, I said, I said, I told you that I did this for me. It was a happy marriage between the idea. But the idea of art And the idea of quarterback. I and I this is not what would have happened. Let's say you were filming this off the hook. And this was the scene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=128.389,189.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Where the father came home. But I think sorry, it would go and it could conceivably happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=189.55,196.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e They would probably come home. Father, we would talk about the weather. You talked about a lot of other things. The mother wouldn't talk about not having the corn. Like, I think there would've been a tremendous amount of exchange. And finally, in the long and haphazard mother, that something may have happened where the father realized what was going on. And to help you, possibly you've gotten poetry out of it. You say, until the line you the is completely okay. And so, you know, play more than you. You just got me, you know, I mean, I think we could have cut through that. I you know, I did, but they don't cut that picture. They know they do a quick cut. I mean, it's cut anyway. I don't know whether you grew well cut or not, but it it called that way. But I did mention three things and I could, I could. Oh yeah. It's went through three minutes by the end of the day. And that's really unbelievable. I mean how. On one hand you can have this purist theory, you know, and you can cut this one. We didn't have the material. You know, whenever you have a religion that I love to uphold. But one would be, even if it wasn't even the encoder, they had more than enough material. Just that they had to make it the same kind of, well, perfectly legitimate. 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They want they want One third they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=288.82,292.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In fact, if they observed the three they had for shooting, for cutting, it may have been even more or less good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=295.38,300.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e There may have been something in know some sort of a unity there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=301.74,306.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But anyway. Well and not going to like but. I was just trying to clear up this this problem here we have a completely recreated poetic thing that had only about, you know, is that yet it has all the purification, hopefully. Promise. That'll do it. You know, I couldn't though. Oh, well, Christ, the very notion of the very notion of science to derive. Not too complicated to comprehend the character. Would work that most of the work for most of the shots in the picture. Just a right size, too much, too complicated character for them to kind of comprehend. My view breast size is the cream artist of our time and by the most by my. As I talked to the other, the dream is to play. He got the same kind of the point. Mr.. Mr. Flaherty, very struck by the way of the movie. He must have been thrown off the roof by the by his. And but we've come to this method for that, you know, he what we should is and if she was just take a year off and think about what was going on there, she'd have a much more complex view of the universe. I'm sure the schedule when I talked to her, she was very much progress, you know? But if only Britain would arrive on the scene and, you know, and look at the ceiling for your report, time and body of work. But let her go out of their mind when he describes your work for that man or she read this article. So some people are perfect her. But she doesn't live it well. It's funny. I'm sorry to keep on the subject, fanatic. I don't know this. She. I don't think I really know. She doesn't strike me to be the much, but I like her. Well, of course you were prepared. Everything's a letdown. Why don't you have people who you really thought it'd be? Really? That she'd study?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=307.17,444.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Because one of the interesting things is to see how many of the. Of the directors of actors are really using personalities that have already been established for their movies and building around them. I mean, here I'm talking about typecasting with unknown people. So that I get a fresh reaction. They're just working at the opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=445.67,470.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, this is a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=471.07,471.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Reminder that the the authority has a built in a very good gardener.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=472.03,475.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I am one of my most serious arguments was over the picture of misfits which them a few pictures. Two people like that picture. My view is that if you're going to work for this kind of cartoon, you should work with stars. And I've noticed since our argument with Mr. Truffaut, long since our argument, Truffaut did precisely the same thing with new role. You know, in Jules, in general, you know, if you're going to work with a personality type who's peddling that personality a thousand miles an hour, then crystallize it, make you write everything it is, push it off the cliff if necessary, but make it do the high wire act. Really? You know, make it, make it, really make it. Give it. Know what you for? What is it? You get it done for the right. I mean it that is so blindingly done in it. Terrifyingly that is sadistically done. 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The thing is that they're gonna, like, irks me about that film is another script a lot more, or at least a lot more than what you see. Oh, yes. Very well. Well, I mean, you like I'm. No. I'm too. I was terrible. All the talk talk. Phony baloney. Good. Eli. Like. Yeah, I read that one look out for or that should have been cut too. There's this one cafe scene where they sit and dissect their different photo. Oh, crap. Oh, they're bad moments, but there's that. There's more in Monroe dancing right in that house. Oh, look, she showed in a lot in a career. Well, I think that this is right. And and with Gary Cooper and all other people. And now here's the the police are number two. Well, it's it's crowded. Know what I get? You're not getting anything that I have to agree with. I, I'm completely agreement. 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This is what it seemed to me that I was ready for that. Would that be that he would have been a great. He had the perfect. Yeah. Well, he wanted his old man, you know, ended up with perfect. That too. But to make you not make a movie, this is this is that there's this this transformation that I saw. I saw Moby Dick in front of me for a few excuses for building. I could never see the guy who built for much the fool and gave him a greater free rein. So because something happened to the boys, you pick up the phone. But to hear that with the group that football and looking to buy a beer and see it move to the birthplace thing, I used to dislike building very much. A very long time. 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But these guys have to keep the therapy there, you know, and there's not precise was not simply a, you know, a personality seller. You had a personality, you know, but no one was going crazy over it. He wasn't being interviewed vaguely when in his home life wasn't being explored, and so he had something else on his mind other than to say, well, there's only to think of there's something associated with the problem with the Hollywood non-actor the the you who they never let go of a certain capacity to real life, which at least gets them off the hook. Cooper could read a lot, and looking at everything, he had a particular sound. Good. You had an identity and it was believable, even if you read slightly. And I saw something in the Virginia people back in 1930, and it was still the same. Cooper all the modern, all that much more nuanced, quiet radio. But you still have to do the same thing, function with another actor. Very often you were up against the problem. 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I've got it in this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=879.83,881.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=882.26,882.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e From. I've got two wooden lines, but. Oh, boy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=882.62,887.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's how the bristles get around the. By making everybody well, in a way, you know. And I'm not. 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Just to make a point. And never touch got the act up so well enough so that it came out of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=941.3,951.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There must be really fun to work one in a pamphlet. I think there's one. There's one of the problem and they'll give you that part of a story. But but surely book will world world scene has line which are wooden only because they're read in conjunction with an actor. Well I quit. Yeah, there's no problem with anything. I can't think of the only actor of whom that I can think of, but I Probably. Oh, no. When you said about these blow after you go and we go back to the ex-leader of the game. 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No, I want to see him walking around because I don't, you know, I don't know of any other reason, but they're constantly That would be another. I'm not. I'm getting a pretty digested truth about that person. Through that person, you know. 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Oh. Well, I, you know, I'd love to see this material do work in real life. That would help, but we didn't. What do you do if you succeed. Did you come? I have already, I should have given your number. I do have a number of the sons, but she's over there. By known by longer means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384#t=1490.78,1525.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262384/transcript/76718/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Phone, you know. 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And I couldn't have done it without there anybody. Any of these people are just as ugly. They are just as miserable as they are just as pumps as they are. Yeah. And something else. 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Look at all my babies. 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And I think there are two interesting instances in primarily in that context, the book takes people or two great long and takes around the room. One of them following Kennedy and Kennedy into the And the other terrorist following the last real problem with walking back with with Humphrey and the one. Yeah. I'm not putting myself down. This is a razzle dazzle strut that has you going. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. The other you don't even notice. And each is breathtakingly active. I don't know, depending on what your hell you're trying to say. 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Well, it did quite a good job. I was a child, and I almost traumatized myself getting Becky to cry. It was a scary time. She wouldn't stop. I mean, once I'd gotten it going, and this was your own daughter, I'd hate like hell to do it with her. Again, for your study, you'll have to talk with Claymore on Forbidden Games. Clay? Claymore. Oh, Claymore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=5.6,40.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Good day. Well, I once made a film called, uh, on the romantic theater, which is called The Valiant Heart. He's in a boy of seven. And I had a very successful performance out of it. I cast him again for tight. He was very shy, but he had a face that was interesting and I felt would have many moves. I'd much rather have a shy child than an overactive boisterous child, because you're going to be able to pull him out. And I found the trick with him was to treat him absolutely like an adult. Right the way through. He didn't have rheumatic fever, never had it, and I felt again this reliving for a child who's had it would be too serious. So I had a girl who had three attacks to be a technical advisor for us, and after a week it began to tell on her so much that I said we learned enough from her and dismissed her. But he does cry in the same way. In one of the things. He has to simulate pain, he has to simulate disgust, all of this. I don't think I ever gave him very specific directions. About how to do this, once he caught the meaning of the scene. We always rehearsed, however. You do rehearse? Oh yes, on these kinds of things we would always rehearse. 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I mean, I think it's then, so we fight, and then, okay, do one more so we'll both be satisfied. And, you know, in the meantime, we've been arguing so that he gets the idea that something, maybe he can improve on something. But he's got somebody on his side. And so you play that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=42.03,263.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you get over this problem with the middle class white, which is probably what you're touching on there? Wanting to project themselves as they see themselves. Immediately, the first reaction I get constantly is that the Iron Curtain comes down. 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I don't think everybody will ever get it. But it's a failure on all of us then, because, all right, who has, I never knew how to take, I never know how to the texture of a modern city until Fellini. It shows all how to do it. My God, he took these modern Ford concrete suburbs and made them lit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=554.88,584.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's made of lead, only in relation to the wasteland. I mean the work matters, the images that he finds are not the images.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=582.59,597.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Who's on New York, who's in Jersey. 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Yeah, but like, I totally attempted on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=639.68,644.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But boy, it just doesn't give your actors anything to play against, does it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=647.17,652.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But he was working with something, you know, he was working with the. He went down to Peter Cooper Village.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=653.19,661.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As opposed to... Looking and looking and looking, I mean what, you never see in a, maybe you're thinking of some other scene in the eye that knocked me out in the pictures of the... Are landscapes in which there's a towering building and the residue and a wasteland around it. This is true, yes. This is what... It's almost expressionist. Ah, this is... Ah, that's true, yeah. It isn't... He hasn't really... I'm trying to think now of Stirner's home in... His apartment in... Dr. Dieter. No, that's... Arachnid. But who... I can't, I remember his widow getting off the bus, but it's a wide area, this is a pretty shot, a wide-area, there's maybe some scaffolding off in one corner, or some boxes or something, and then the building goes up like this. It was like the first, the only building constructed out of 25, the comp, you know. And you have the feeling of dirt to plow dirt or something that has shoveled up dirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=664.2,746.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a very special way of seeing. I mean, it's a rigged universe. 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Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1043.97,1050.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He just happened to be absolutely right for that, and it sounds extraordinarily articulate. The success of that movie has tricked so many of us to think we can get the same thing from other people, and I've never been able to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1053.17,1065.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you say that? Can you think of an example? Reworked the scene in terms of camera because of the non-actor, his qualities and his incapacity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1069.04,1086.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, things as simple as working in a long shot instead of close-up. If the gross action seems much better, then... One of the things I always have trouble with is getting a take out of a person, a registration, oh yes, that's it, surprise, recognition, this kind of thing. A transitional type of thing? Yes. This kind of a thing is always hard to get from an honest. Because it's, it's almost an actor's trick. It's surprising how seldom this shows up in actuality footage. I mean, when I've really learned how little of this happens in real life when I'm shooting these policemen on an actual run. And you see them making arrests, and you see very little of the kind of stuff that you would put in if you were shooting the scene. As far as facial responses, responses from the people and so forth is concerned. People just don't have those kinds of takes. It's a dramatic device.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1089.379,1165.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he's quite a favorite among such reactions as Eisenhower's to the news that MacArthur had been fired. You've never seen that still? He showed, you know, he was a candidate and MacArthur was a candidate and everybody was a candidate and some anti-crisis still photographer was present when the news was passed to him on a piece of paper. He went like this. But now, isn't this interesting, though, that this observation, wouldn't this tend to make you, rather than to state a tape, then try to get a more authentic type of reaction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1164.86,1215.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sometimes when I'm not too lazy. Very often, I want that take and I know how well it would cut. And I spend about fifteen takes trying to get it, and then I settle for something else. And I make this mistake over and over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1216.16,1233.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you ever use, in a scene, when you need surprise reaction, when you need a transitional effect, do you ever stage it in such a way that you calculate, to stimulate it in the actor, without him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1235.01,1252.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I can do that with children. I've never done it with adults successful that I know of. It's very simple to do it with children and very often you use it on children. Just use it animal. You can use certain gross techniques like that. I learned how to direct cattle very early in the game from my herdsmen. It was crazy. We had to get some shots of a prized herd on the open pasture in Mississippi. And we tracked these damned animals for about six hours, and we could never get stuff. Either they were, of course, as soon as the cameras got close enough, and then turned on camera, why they would turn and stare right into the camera and they'd hold. And after wasting a whole day on this, the guy who's been following us around said, just keep them all feed for eight hours. Not going to hurt our experiment that much, but they did in the push. Turned him into the bastion, we could get right up to him. They wouldn't even bother to look up, they were just hungry. You can work the same trick on children eating, or adults working. Something that they get intensely interested in, you know, just really forget the camera after a while. It's amazing to me how, in the general confusion of a police action, We could trail those people around with cameras, microphones, and even a frezzy light. And how seldom people were bothered by the camera. I mean, the people who have been arrested.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1255.8,1390.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, because they were picking up in their own little room. There's your clue with the poor criminal, as opposed to the guy who pulled his hat over his face. No, it's a clue about the different levels, different levels of just photographing different levels in society. And self-consciousness. These guys have reached a certain position, and they need to, perhaps, to... It's a sophistication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1392.74,1434.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And very often, with witnesses and other people around, it raises the level of their drama so that you do get certain acting. It just means that the people are a little more intense. For example, Call of Man Down went along and found that The old gentleman, who lived in the neighborhood for about 12 years, that's when they got drunk, fell over a wall behind a parking lot. They'd been there for his fatality. Don't know whether the fall killed him or whether he had a stroke or something. He was stinking. Not drunk, but dead and disintegrated. Crowd gathered, really a broiled crowd. Waiting to see for the coroner's office to come around to pick him up to see whether we'd fall apart when they pulled him out. The most gallulous kind of thing. Well, the detectives came to talk to the brother who was there and his landlady. Knowing, I'll say I know, he's been rooming with me for 11 years. This was one of the big points in her life. And the fact that the cameras were there, too, the microphones. Made her project a good bit more, I'm sure. It was going even more intensely than she would have gone. I think you'll find this with cinema very, very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1436.03,1533.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This has been one of the points that's been raised about cinema very daily, that very often the camera acts as a catalyst. And so then, really, where is the very thing, you know, that you... Well, that's what's so obnoxious about the mystique that they mean. That, uh... I think... That they're begging this whole question of what happens when a camera is introduced. Into a situation like God in heaven. I mean, it's like, uh, I can't think of an after analogy. The camera is not. An object to be ignored unless all hell is breaking loose. I don't know what I'd do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1535.22,1584.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I put it down this way. You are with somebody, particularly a girl, and you're out having a good time. You are stimulated by the fact that people are watching, people are listening. You start playing a game because other people are around. Does this mean that you're playing acting for them? Part of it. Part of is that you are having fun with the other person. But it wouldn't be nearly as much fun if you were alone. Or at least it would be a different quality of fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1587.97,1621.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No. Or me, with Becky. Now that we have a lady who comes in daily, the games and songs and such that Becky and I play, I find myself, and I'm sure I can sense it in Becky, too, that we're being done for an audience. Sure. Behind us that we're making an effect on her. We're seeing if she's caught that number that we do together, you know? And it's a little scary and dishonestized our relationship and our games and such. And I'm sure it's no different, no worse, I'm I'msure it's less... I'm still feeling like I'm having a camera on me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1621.4,1677.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I used this in the city film. You haven't seen the huddle of the city, have you? I just saw the introductory. I used it about lovers and the delight of lovers in the cities. What the delight is watching lovers being seen walking with one's love. This is the kind of stimulation about this. It's a camera around the town again. Just as an extra person in the room does it. What do you think they are? Parrots? Friends?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1677.39,1707.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You said something a little while ago about you shooting long shots. Now, I have always found it my problem that long shots are the hardest thing in the world to say. I like long shots, but then there are many more things happening. And long shots contribute to the poetic quality of a song, I think. Because there are more elements in it, they can't, but I find them tremendously often to work with because so much depends upon the action that's happening, unless you've got a static wrong shot. You can tell if a person is moving wrong, whereas in a medium shot he isn't, you can't tell so much. You can, a long shot usually implies also a rather long held shot, you know, something between the last and the last. Just using the value movements and things like that. All of the woodenness of your non-actors suddenly becomes, and all the little chalk marks on the floor suddenly become important somehow. I was wondering how you approach this problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1710.82,1796.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I have used more and more in the last, since I first learned it from Terry Philp did. It was just a dream of a camera, you know, to use a walking dolly shot. You mean the hat? And I found, of course nobody's better than Terry at this, but I found that Gazi can do it just as well. And Kayla got some fantastic stuff. We got the best subway shot I have ever seen. We used it in How to Look at a City. We had two apparel uppers. And we had a, they knew the mood of the thing. By the way, these were actors. I used all all my principles and how like the city were active and I'll go back and tell you in just a minute why But we chose the 8th Avenue subway at 59th Street The 6th and 8th, you know, because it was well lit. We chose it about 6 o'clock So we'd get a full train, but not impossible to get into and we had luck We started photographing when the train came in. They knew the mood of the thing We followed them into the car. They went back and got a pole. Kayla was shooting. He's 6'3\", 4\", so he's way over. That shot ran. We used it in the film for about a minute and a half with just one cutaway. Nobody It's absolutely beautiful stuff, right to a chair. Now, why we got that that way, why everybody in the subway didn't look that way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1799.97,1902.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e George, you know, riding the subway is a lot higher than you know. You could come onto the subway dripping with blood and no one would respond. I've seen more people try to shoot subway shots at Jester, hopefully. But not at the Russia. What do you think is the lie? Not at the Russian. His handheld camera, somehow his handheld camera is not important. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1904.86,1926.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Part of it was K-like too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1927.04,1928.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's high above the group. I mean, it's obviously just somebody entertaining himself, diddling. You probably know Phil in the camera, since it is not. I've always found, as soon as you set up a tripod, you're already most appear...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1929.2,1941.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But now in the city, why did I use those actors? This was an idea film. It was based on a narration by an architect, a folk singer, named Eugene Raskin, former teacher, professor of architecture in City Planet Columbia, who is now a folk-singer, nightclub entertainer with his wife. Very So he starts off the film playing his guitar, and then he goes into this whole business. Now he describes the city in terms of, of fame, fortune, love, and adventure. So I said, OK, I've got a personalized fame, fortune, love, and adventure. So that they won't seem to be just kind of general abstract quality. OK, fame, what are you going to do? OK, now I've gotta young dance. Perfectly obvious kind of thing. Fortune, I'll get a square, a young college, a young executive type. And put him through all kinds of things, from rubbing the front of a Rolls-Royce to looking at Wall Street, et cetera. Lovers and natural. And for adventure, I get a wide-eyed country boy. Now, for fame, I got a girl who looks very much like an actress. She has all the self-consciousness that a young, ambitious actress would. And she's very pretty, and that's worth trying. A very ambitious work. She's not going to make it. It's too bad. But she's damn good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=1942.02,2051.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So whether you knew it or not, I mean, that's what the equality that projects, that she's one of 10,000 kids and we're going to, you know, get married to somebody and settle down and good luck, and it's all for the best, and we all have pretty good, horrible children. And the last thing we see... And they're gonna go to plays, and they're going...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2054.9,2078.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Ugh. The lovers, a bit self-conscious, enough self-concious so they look convincing and handle themselves well. He's quite a good actor, actually. She's just pleasant, very pleasant looking. The square, I would have done better with somebody who had more flexibility. I should have cast an actress, I'd rather not a non-actor, I'm just casting for time. The country boy does beautifully, he's a complete non-actor. He has the kind of flair that I wanted. I think an actor would have overdone it, I don't know. But there, I had really good performances out of my...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2084.449,2136.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you feel, there seems to be a sub-theme to the whole conversation this evening, is that you tend to cast someone who strikes you, and you... Which type of cast, I'm sure. And then finally these people tend to do it themselves, and you just sort of explaining areas of a scene or something like that, or from time to time giving them definite mechanics of the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2140.27,2167.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But I am once I settle on somebody. I'm limited by that person. I can no longer stick to my idea of that character. I have to be very flexible to use what the person has, to let it grow if they grow, to limit it if they don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2168.47,2192.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you're constantly observing this person, his gestures, things, seeing what you can draw out of him and use. Cosent told me that, I'm not a name, I mean I don't mean to be a name-dropper, but that look, you didn't get any honors. Ha ha ha. You think he's referred to as Pink the Greek, though, in the Second City parody, right, down at the front? No, the Second city, which preceded the presence. Ted Flicker is about to think the Greek. He tries to, in a way, understand the emotional makeup of the person in such a way. And his idiosyncrasies in such ways. Everything he directed him to do would be in the direction of the idiosyncracy, either to prolong them or to fight them, so that his reactions would be. Because then, yeah, I told it. I said, I'm very amazed. I says, because all of your actors have a definite style, wasn't there? None of the actors are not the same. They're obviously out of you, you know. Well, you might be in the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2195.17,2283.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'll give you the answer he should have given you. I project. He told me, frankly, I said it in verbal terms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2282.19,2291.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, my editor has told me that she can look at... 100 feet of my stuff and 100 feet if anybody else's stuff and you can spot the difference in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2295.02,2307.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What is that always flattering? And what does that achieve?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2309.95,2312.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And what is that a truth? What are you true to that? Johnny one note. She says that I tend to get... That was an insult. Sure. I tend get similar responses from kids. 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I haven't done that much, but from the little I've done that I've worked directly with them, I'm getting a kind Jim Blue response.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2332.89,2388.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When you find out how not to do it, let me know because I've become quite self-conscious about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2392.38,2398.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, what is it? Is it the, is it, I think a great deal, I've been trying to analyze this a lot, a great deal of this camera relationship to the way you shoot it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2400.99,2408.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All the kinds of situations in which we put them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2411.37,2414.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the kind of thing you want from them, or is there a response to a situation? Well, this is, I mean, everybody, Fellini's people act alike too, you know, they're all... You can tell a Fellini actor from a Visconti actor, you now. Alain Delon was a Vinconti who resembled nothing to what he is with René Clément, let's say. But I don't think, I don, I haven't seen either, I have seen either picture. I dislike the villain with this county and I like him very much. All I, I shouldn't have said to me, but all I know is what is, what this county was supposed to be doing with Delon. And what Luke, I saw with them all once. Up close all during where he was at a party where there were about 15 bigger names than he and he was soaking and combing his hair non-stop and when I learned that this county was was I'd take this kind of vanity and skewer it, I figured, my God, I've got to see that it clips. But he apparently didn't pull this off. What do you mean, Antoneoni? He clips it in? Yeah, I mean, that's in the end. Oh yeah, I think he pulled it, Antioneoni pulled that off. Pretty much. But this can't be idealized. Oh, yeah, this is, it turns him into an angel, I didn't mean, whereas Claymore, I think it's the stride of the right note with the devil. 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Part of the fun of non-actors is that they don't tend to have one side to them. I don't know, what are we all talking about here? You don't have a photograph.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2562.55,2578.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, she hates cops, and she doesn't like the fact that in my films, one tends after a while to, if not like cops, at least understand what they're up against. Already, I'm showing my prejudice in the way I'm explaining here for our point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2580.24,2607.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I mean, well... What, what? There are no bad cops in your picture, though. That's what we require of you. This is one of their objections, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2610.86,2620.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This jail, this jail, which was Central Lockup, where you worked for so long and got lots of real prisoners, the whole place is disgusting, and the prisoners are disgusting. By the time I got through that place, you don't get a feeling of a mass of disgusting people. You get a feel of a disgusting place, but any individuals you get to know in that place. You have a certain feeling of sympathy for. And I wouldn't know how to do it otherwise. It's certainly one-sided though. And it doesn't even tell the total truth for my policemen, because one of the battles they have is that they don't have sympathy for these people. They hate them. They get disgusted after a while and really hate them and take it out on them emotionally. Well now, if I knew how to tell my story completely, I wouldn't get the audience to see this, and I don't know how to do it. 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I imagine she was, I get the idea, she was a pretty strong individual and therefore couldn't care less what was going on around her while she was doing her work. You see, you didn't say that in the article. I'm kidding Jim Blue, not you. You'll know when I'm kidding you. I want to know what problems came up, if any, in the work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2698.7,2764.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure. Well, the first thing was that I was a white man and she was Nico. And so it was just a matter of physical safety. I had to show her that I knew how to act like a white man and would not ever cause her embarrassment because if any break was made, she would that I would. So I lived at the hotel. I exhibited myself at the health department people. I behaved myself there. When I came over to her house, I would come over by taxi and tell each taxi driver what I was doing. So that after a while they all knew what I was doing. Why I was doing it. Oh. Alright. Would travel around with her and behave in a way that would build up her importance but would never embarrass her. And, uh... After a while, she found that I was really interested in what she was doing, and really meant to try to help out, and this was a terrifically sincere woman. Who like to do good. Also, I learned very soon that she was deeply religious and was tied to this particular church. And that the Bishop of the Church. Was I had real authority. So I went to him and I told him what I was doing. And ask for his support. I went to her church a number of times. I went partly because I was interested and felt at home there and partly because I knew that this was the thing closest to her heart and that if I showed a decent interest, it would help out. And I didn't fake and think it's a claim to get religion or anything like that. But I certainly didn't. It took plenty of time to get to know all the people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2764.66,2941.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Something about the tone of this whole conversation makes all of this decent, conscientious behavior sound like honor. Yes, exactly. Part of it is, but I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2942.96,2959.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, one of the things that I think... You can take the praise of it, dude. This is...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=2961.93,2967.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You see, it involves not only terribly calculating, but as if you're sitting back in a hotel room saying, what will my next move be in the dreadful business of seducing this woman I happen to like? You know, who seems to like me, and whether we're fucking or not, at least we're friends. And we went around together. I think you're damn right, Dan. 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Now, I'm having real problems with this son of a bitch Martin who just called.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3009.94,3024.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're called collectives, by the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3025.589,3027.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't want to point out to you. That was on my answering server.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3027.12,3030.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3031.03,3031.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We've got a checkup on that because that was, uh, it was, um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3031.71,3035.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's not that I'm concerned about it appearing on my bill, though I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3037.18,3040.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3041.06,3041.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I wore it with a telephone cut there, but I just thought it didn't appear that any such further information went across.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3044.2,3057.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I had called him early in the evening. He is... Terribly worried. Because Just when I take pictures of him and his partner, he begins to get kitted by the other policemen. He likes the attention, he likes the money I'm paying him, but at the same time, he doesn't have enough pride in himself and his work to stand up to this kidding the way the other two can stand up. He's a kind of moral coward, really, in all kinds of ways. And this comes out in his work, and this is one of the things I'm getting across in the film. He's afraid of his kids. He's afriad of his neighbors. Sounds really like a rollercoaster. But, God knows you can kind of get close to him too. He's got a beautiful face, great big handsome body. He's an AA by the way, and like most reformed drunks, unless he really sees his AA as a cause, it kind of neutralizes him. Uhhh The one group of people he handles particularly well are the alcoholics, by the way, because he has a kind of an emotional attachment to them. The other people he, he handles confidently, but without any real heart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3059.86,3175.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3177.96,3177.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But boy, I've got some beautiful stuff on the track. He talks about fraud, the temptations to fraud, and what this means. You interviewed him. Oh yes, I've done this, you know, we interviewed several hours and I'm using the track against picture. He talks how cynical you get after a while because you see everybody taking bribes, or everybody in all walks of life doing it. So after a long while you wonder if the priest isn't doing it, and if the doctor isn't do it, and all of this kind of thing. We've got seen to match up. And that'll be in the track.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3178.81,3216.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Wyoming seems to have a brief... We've got enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3217.46,3220.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We've got him out there. He says, you hang around outside of church and people are complimenting you and they want you to fix a ticket. You see the priest and you wonder if he's taking something on the side. Because you see everybody you handle in your professional life is taking something. So you're asking why he gets feeling everybody's doing it. Well we've got some nice self-conscious stuff with him standing outside his church shaking hands with his priest and getting being kidded rather too elaborately by some of his friends and his family. This is a scene you set up? Yeah. We just got him out there with his friends and took pictures of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3220.08,3255.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a feeling sometimes that if we make too big a mountain out of a molehill and we can start getting coy and calculating in our techniques with people and finally all it takes is just asking them to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3258.32,3271.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the business of getting releases, I found that's true. I learned this from Bob Churchill, no, Cy Wexler. I used to have quite an elaborate approach on releases. And he was telling me about getting releases for... Um, let's have a job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3272.49,3295.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, is it his story? I don't know. Oh, you mean the Haskell?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3296.74,3299.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3303.14,3304.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As they were, I'm sorry about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3306.19,3307.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, he did a lot of shooting on set.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3308.21,3310.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I've got a mask over it, and I'm going to go and mask it off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3310.43,3312.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Haskell works who did some of the shooting with Psi Wexler. We were working on it for two years before Haskell worked. They even showed up. Were they brothers or? No. No, they're not. No, no, no. I was a different guy. This was when Irving Lerner started the project. Uh-huh. You know, with the, it was going to be a Hogwarts view of Los Angeles. I've been using.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3312.81,3330.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've been using your story forever after, saying it was Haskell. I didn't even know where I'd gotten it at this point, and I know Haskell, I thought I'd got it for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3329.81,3340.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What he said was, they were using an elaborate approach to get releases. He explained they were doing a sociological study and so forth and so on. And one of the old pros, well, you're just wasting your time. All you have to do is this, and he goes up and he says, somebody says, look, lady, I'm just trying to make a living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3343.74,3361.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So I hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3363.97,3364.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This is a profound, yeah, but I don't trust it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3365.46,3367.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This is a profound comment of American society. It's really magnificent. You know, they were, you know what, they were photographing, they're photograpting ladies who were looking at their bed husbands in an auto rack, you know, and they'd be up there and giving them the business, you now. They were photagraphing disasters and asking people who looked like fools are in terrible circumstances. And to get by, you can get by with anything if you just acknowledge, come out with it and say that like everybody else, I'm just making a buck, trying to make a living. It's a ghastly business. But this holds true for a lot of scenes, that's what it is, you're sitting there with a priest and a policeman or a car king and his friends are just a ribbon that you don't have to go through a lot of shenanigans to get the scene set up, you just ask them to do it. This is one of the things that I've thought that part of the key in non-actors is not making it too important, just coming out and asking them to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3368.03,3447.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it depends. It's this kind of thing you can do, but if it's the kind of thing like we were trying to get them to reunite Jerry's and all that kind of thing, then it's something entirely different. Reunite, huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3447.81,3457.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The drop here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3458.41,3459.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Drawing Jerrys and stuff. This is the thing you've got to remember. But, uh, I mean, then you've, then you've...as soon as you get people having to do continuity of character and stretching over days and all of this, then, you've something else because they get bored after a couple of days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3459.97,3475.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the key instances for your study is probably from Charlie, the one most experienced actor. The only person in that movie who's been in a movie before... The old lady? The best actor. The old Lady. He was a professional. And why, I guess maybe this is in an article or something, but he didn't create an article.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3476.65,3501.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what you're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383#t=3503.46,3504.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141807/file/262383/transcript/79527/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm trying to remember whether he said this or if it was a psychic sound or if he said that. There was long delays between shootings, but she was the one, this one, most incredible, believable, absolute non-actor type. She's the one who would, three weeks later, when they were trying to do something else, say, but the cane was in the left hand, you know. I understand that she was a drug addict. 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