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My name is Marty Bennett. I'm Instructor Emeritus of History at Santa Rosa Junior College. Today is Wednesday, May 17 [2023]. I am interviewing Ron Eachus about the anti-war movement in Eugene, Oregon, between '67 and '73. This interview is taking place at his home in Salem, Oregon. Ron, tell me a little bit about where you grew up and your background and your family. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, I grew up in Molalla, Oregon, which is not very far from here, just east of Woodburn. My father was part of the greatest generation, served on a Navy ship, USS Colorado, in World War II. He came out west in the CCC's [Civilian Conservation Corps] after his family, which was fairly large, I think seven children, but fairly well off after the effects of the Depression. He and his brothers ended up coming out in the CCC. And then he served in World War II. He met my mother in Nyssa, Oregon. My mother was adopted and grew up in Ripon, Wisconsin, which is the birthplace of the Republican Party. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=52.0,116.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There you go. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=116.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She had some asthma or sinus issues, and she ended up coming out to eastern Oregon from Wisconsin in order to make that better. And then they met in Nyssa, and I was born in '47 and then my father moved around. My mother was a teacher. But after I was born, she decided that she would quit teaching to raise me in my early years. So we moved wherever my father had work and he would do heavy equipment work and run combines. We were in the wheat fields of Washington for a while. Then as soon as I was old enough to go to school, my mother got a teaching job, and we moved to Molalla where she got the teaching job. I grew up there from first grade through high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=117.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a small community of about 1700 people, with a heavy logging and agriculture influence. My mother was an English teacher and my family's best friend was also a journalism and English teacher. I got interested in journalism and ended up getting a scholarship to the University of Oregon School of Journalism, which was one of the top ten in the country. But my real interest was sports. So, I actually went to the University of Oregon to be a sports reporter. But we lived across from the high school, which was an old three-story, great brick building. There's the big block where the high school was and then there were three corners. On one corner, there were three houses on each corner. We actually ended up living in each one of those houses because my mother could just walk to school. My father was away a lot. He became an operating engineer. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=181.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the Union of Operating Engineers. Operating heavy equipment? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=260.0,265.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, he ran drag lines and things like that, mostly. He worked in a rock quarry, and then he worked in Oak Ridge. But his jobs were far enough away from home that for much of the time he would be away on a week and come back on weekends. So, I was basically the only child of two working-class parents. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=265.0,290.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on a political spectrum, from roughly conservative to liberalism, how would you describe your parents? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=290.0,299.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Subdued Democrats. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=299.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But Roosevelt Democrats?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=301.0,303.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I believe Roosevelt Democrats, yeah. They never talked politics much, at all. But they generally voted. They were Democrats. But politics was not a subject much in the house. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=303.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And was the area where you grew up relatively conservative?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=320.0,324.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conservative in a way, yeah. It had about as many churches as it did bars. My first political experience, however, was actually over book banning. In probably 1965 or '4, in my senior year, the National Honor Society was selling in a revolving stand, just to make money for the club, a number of paperback books. There were some conservatives who didn't like that and tried to get the books banned. And there was a big gathering in the high school auditorium to talk about it. I think that was one of my first political experiences, was standing up and saying, I didn't appreciate the idea that you can tell me what I can and can't read. And these were not books in the classroom. They were not books in the library. They were books for purchase. If you didn't want to read them or you didn't want your child to read them, then fine, but don't keep me from reading them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=324.0,391.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time, I have to admit, in my political science class, we had to pick political candidates, and I actually ended up being a Goldwater supporter. I think I have a little bit of the Hillary Clinton story in me, is that I became a Goldwater supporter and actually wore a black armband when Goldwater lost. I think part of it was the two books that influenced me the most in high school were Robert Heinlein's Stranger In A Strange Land—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=391.0,423.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Science fiction?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=423.0,424.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Science fiction. And Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=424.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And still one of the favorite books of many right-wingers. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=429.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is, however, it was a book about independence and being true to yourself and it was something that is appealing, whether you're right or left. It's appealing to the individual. It's more about individuality and not caving in to conformity than anything. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=434.0,455.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were your parents particularly religious? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=455.0,457.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. Well, my mother's history was of growing up, going to church. Her family were regular churchgoers in Wisconsin, but she never really went to church a lot here and never forced any of that on me. We lived in what was the Lutheran church parsonage. I did go to the Lutheran church for a while or periodically. But no, did not grow up in what was a particularly religious family at all. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=457.0,496.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when do you get to the university? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=496.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got to the university in fall of 1965, and I had a tough time. Just making the adjustment from small-town Molalla to Eugene and the university. You know, I was just a small-town kid trying to make adjustments. I came home almost every weekend. There was a neighbor whose brother worked in Eugene and would come home. I'd catch rides back and forth with him. And I came home almost every weekend until spring term. And then spring term I went to The Oregon Daily Emerald, started working for them, the idea of writing sports, and I also played on the freshman tennis team and kind of that was my finding myself in college. My grades went better and, all of a sudden, I started being more active and more comfortable. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=501.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you a journalism major from the from the get-go? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=569.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=573.0,575.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's what ultimately your degree was in, journalism? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=575.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My degree was in journalism. Yeah, I did. I actually got my credits out of the way by spending two summers in summer school, taking journalism classes to get credits, required credits, out of the way. And also working on the summer Oregon Daily Emerald, which wasn't daily but working on the summer newspaper. So I spent two summers doing that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=577.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When you got to the university, did you have any defined positions about the war? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=608.0,614.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I didn't. You know, at the time it was a kind of a rite of passage, is that if you turned 18 you had to go down and get your draft card. We had student deferment, and I felt fairly confident I was going to be a student for several years. And so I didn't think much about it, you know, and at the time, the war hadn't escalated yet, a lot. It wasn't that I was more concerned about the score of the U of O [University of Oregon] football games than I was my draft status and everything. My parents were, you know, were worried about [me] getting drafted. So there's always this, get good grades in school so you don't. There was always a little bit of that pressure. 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There is a change in student population. There was a change in the world. And then there was a change in what was happening on campus. If you looked at the stories that were covered when I arrived in '65, it was all dominated by fraternity stuff. It was the canoe fête, or it was intramurals, or—it was all dominated by the fraternity activities, and maybe had some speakers that were on campus and things like that. And then you look two or three years later, say '68, and, all of a sudden, the newspaper is covering all these other things that are going on on campus. In fact, the newspaper is getting a lot of pressure from the legislature and it's getting pressure from people in the city about covering these things that people didn't like happening on campus. But the campus was changing, and we were covering what was going on on campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=713.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember a particular instance in The Oregon Daily Emerald when I was editor in '68, '69. We had printed a story about a group that, as I understood it at the time, had registered itself at the student union as Up Against the Wall, Motherfuckers. And we reported that as their name. There was a person named Charlie Pottereth. He wasn't the only one, but he was the most vocal one. And they just all of a sudden wanted the student newspaper canceled, wanted to get rid of all of us because of all of this profanity that was in the paper. And I knew soon as—I was the editor, and as soon as I opened the paper up and found out that it had gotten through the night editor and in the paper, I knew it was going to be a controversy. And it was. And so, as the controversy grew, we decided to have one of our reporters interview Charlie Pottereth. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=803.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Potter was? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=871.0,873.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pottereth. He was just a curmudgeonly old activist in Eugene. He just didn't like it. He didn't have any particular position or title or office or anything. He was just a curmudgeon, but he was making a big deal of it and getting covered for the big deal he was making. So we had a reporter interview him. And when the story came out, it's this interview with Charlie Pottereth that is just full of expletives that we had to cut out. Every paragraph there is a bleeped cut out because he's just cussing the whole way. And that's actually the last we heard of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=873.0,917.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we were covering what had happened and there was a big change. I mean, if you look at one of the stories in maybe '66, '67? I can't remember. But it was a big story of whether to lean on the hippies or lay off the hippies. And so that meant by now we've got hippies and they're doing chalk drawings on the sidewalk up to the student union, you know. And the football players came and shoved them away and said that were, you know, were hurting the university's image by what they were doing. And the response from the other side was, Well, if you're worried about the university's image, you ought to look at the football game, the football team's results. But that was an indication of the change. The population was changed. The attitude was changed. The culture was changing. So we were covering all of that and then as there started to be more and more activities it started to be a convergence. The civil rights movement is actually before the anti-war movement. The civil rights movement had taken the stage. Then there was the— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=917.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me just add on that. And Martin Luther King comes out in the spring of '67 with his famous speech at Riverside Church in New York opposing the war. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1004.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. But, you know, the two things that happened before, I felt like I was starting to see the anti-war movement become the primary concern of people on campus. Because there were these other movements. There was a civil rights movement and then there was—started by the Free Speech movement at Berkeley—there was a student movement about students' role in the university. And that carried on throughout. Then as the war escalated, as you began to have the draft, then you start to have more speakers addressing these issues. You started to have more protests by groups for whom this is their primary issue of organizing. And you had a lot of this idea, because you're on campus and you're still trying to build a movement of this, the teach-ins, you know? Each one, teach one. And we started to learn about the war and the history of Vietnam. Then you start to have this convergence of local activism with some national movements. The war is really escalating, and the draft is now interfering in everybody's life.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1016.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And when do you remember, or can you remember, the moment when you first had really serious questions about the war? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1106.0,1117.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not sure I can. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1117.0,1118.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1118.0,1122.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it became clearer. As a journalist I started covering [the war]. And as a journalist you have access to, you are reading other publications, you're gathering information, you're looking at the wire every day. You know, it sort of builds up. You start to look at it and say, This, this is wrong. And then particularly when people start getting drafted for a war that didn't make any sense. And then you started—as the reports came back about, not only our troops dying, but what we were doing to the Vietnamese—you know, you start to ask questions. It's something that builds up and it was hard for me to say that, Here's the moment. I do remember a couple of events that had a major impact on me when I was still the journalist and not the political activist. In one, which is in your timeline here, is the Joan Baez concert. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1122.0,1184.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And her husband, I believe, David Harris, was one of the leaders of so-called Resistance of young people who were turning in their draft cards. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1184.0,1194.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So I remember my emotions at that concert. And then, as you're covering what's going on, you're making decisions about it. You're making a decision, Okay, this is important. And you start covering things in a little more in-depth and you start covering the debate on campus. I mean, this is what concerned students is the draft, and then the response to that, the war, the response to it, the moral implications of it. And then you start bringing in people like David Harris and Joan Baez. Eugene McCarthy starts to come. Wayne Morse continues to speak out against the war, you know, from Eugene. And the campus starts to become a center of anti-war activism.  \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1194.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um-hum. And yes, certainly that fall of '67 and moving into '68 was pivotal. And— \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1264.0,1274.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, yeah, I think, you know, I actually think that the biggest change occurred in '68? Because you had people who still believed in the electoral process. And that was the way to do things. And so you had McCarthy. And impact that had, it had an impact. Johnson says, I still remember listening to that speech, and my mouth dropping, when he says he's not going to run again. And in that time the Oregon primary was a critical primary. It's different than it is now. And it was just before California. So he tried to build up momentum to go into California. There weren't that many primaries. So you had McCarthy, Kennedy coming— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1274.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I believe, was it Patsy Mink? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1332.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Congresswoman from Hawaii. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1335.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Yeah. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1337.0,1340.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then, you had Martin Luther King being shot. You have Robert Kennedy being shot. You have the Chicago convention. And the summer of '68 changed things. When people came back to school after the summer of '68. And it was—and I remember because I actually spent summer of '68 on a Wall Street Journal internship, working for the Omaha World-Herald during that summer. So I wasn't part of that and plus I was still being a journalist. But I came back, and I was editor of the paper, and there was a big difference after the Chicago convention and after Richard Nixon won the election. It made a big difference in the level of activism, in the receptiveness of students to activism, and the willingness to become active. Because it said that you have to do more than just the electoral process. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1340.0,1405.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But were you active in the Eugene McCarthy campaign? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1405.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1407.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, you just covered it. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1408.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was still approaching things as a journalist. But I had to keep writing editorial opinions and covering things. So I was active in a sense of reporting what was going on. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1410.0,1425.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1425.0,1427.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But not in the sense of me going out and participating in things. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1427.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, certainly, in the summer of '68, you know, Soviet Union was occupying Czechoslovakia. In the spring, there's going to be an uprising of French students and workers against the government there. You were becoming aware of the international character of the student movement. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1434.0,1453.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, we were starting to feel like there was a movement. And I can't remember, you know, then there were starting to be some national organizers doing, you know, national movements and I think that the Chicago convention seemed to be, like, the first real, okay, gather, let's all gather, in protest. And then after that, you started to have some national movements like the Moratorium [Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam] and the march.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1453.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"New Mobilization to End the War comes after the Moratorium. And I would agree with you that there are these national coalitions, but there are also many places like Eugene were a hotbed of local activity. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1481.0,1498.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There were. And a lot of it was around the draft. And the early protests were about the draft. I remember covering or, at least, watching the protests were around the busses taking people up. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1498.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1515.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the time when people chained themselves or— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1516.0,1523.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was October of '68. Four or five hundred people tried to stop what they thought were busses that were going to take inductees to Portland. And then there were forty, fifty students that chained themselves to the bus door. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1523.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So, you know, there was starting to be—and there were more and more different groups organizing against the war, different strategies. SDS [Students for a Democratic Society] of course, was very active. But there were others. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1547.0,1565.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Were you becoming aware of some of the off-campus groups at this time, like the Citizens for a Sane Foreign Policy or the Clergy and Laity Concerned [about Vietnam] against the war.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1565.0,1578.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think I became more aware of those when later on I became more active. I'm sure, you know, from the very start, because they did things on campus and a lot of the people on campus were. And so I became—I couldn't pinpoint, but it wasn't until I became more politically active in the anti-war movement that I knew more about those organizations. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1578.0,1611.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You didn't consider yourself a member of SDS then, but you did cover SDS and you knew SDS members like David Gwyther and Paul Gratz and so forth? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1611.0,1621.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Dick Jones was student body president at the time that I was editor. And actually Dick and I lived together for a while in a house on 10th and High Street across from The [Eugene] Register-Guard, along with the person who was actually the editor of the yearbook, The Oregana, I think it was called. So, you know, we had in one house a whole center of information and activity going on. And you could see there was also a change in the student government. So you could see that, when I first came to school, student government was dominated by the fraternities. You know, it was their candidate always got elected. It was always someone from a fraternity that got elected and the student center was usually dominated [by fraternities]. But one of the things that's often overlooked, I think, is the change in population. The cost of school was nowhere near what it is now. And so you had a lot of the baby boomers. And a lot of people from California also coming up. But you started to have the Great Society effect. So you started to get a lot more diverse student body, a lot more working class, a lot more minority, and a lot more students living off campus. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1621.0,1745.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Good point. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1745.0,1745.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what you saw gradually by '68, Dick Jones getting elected. It started this change. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1745.0,1760.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Jones was a strong supporter of civil rights. And did he also speak out against the war? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1760.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He spoke out against the war. He did organizing, anti-poverty organizing. You also had a program at the U of O that Art Pearl ran, that brought in a lot of minority students. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1766.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pearl was an education professor. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1783.0,1785.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. He was professor of education, and he ran a program. And I think it had its roots in the Great Society, but he brought in people who might not otherwise be able to attend college. And then his education program taught people and gave them credit for teaching the people he was bringing in. So he had a major impact. That program had a major impact. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1785.0,1816.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the name of that program was Upward Bound. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1816.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Might have been of Upward Bound.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1820.0,1821.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll check up on that. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1821.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think there was another name for it, that he had for it. But it did have a major impact. Because those people, you know, as you started to get to know them, and they felt more comfortable and they started speaking out. They started telling a different story. But the population of campus changed, and I think that had a big impact. And if you look at—for example, I mentioned that my friend, the person I lived with, was editor of the yearbook—if you look at the yearbook before he took over, in all the activities, it's like a fifties fraternity. You look at the next year, it's all these demonstrations, be-ins, music festivals. It's a whole different world in just that one year. Comparing those two yearbooks, it's an amazing thing actually to see. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1823.0,1886.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And one of the flashpoints, coming out of the [1968] Chicago [Democratic] Convention is that there was a relatively young instructor at the time, John Froines, who was a chemist, and he was going to be indicted for inciting the riot along with six or seven other national anti-war leaders. And so there was really going to be a spotlight on him when he comes to campus as a young instructor. Did you have any contact with him, or did you cover him as a journalist? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1886.0,1924.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't remember covering him as a journalist. My contact with him was later. He was the one—after my year as editor of the paper, despite the fact that I went to two summers of summer school, the extracurricular activity of working on the paper still left me with needing credits. So I decided, I came back to school to finish the credits that I needed. But by then, Kip Morgan had gotten elected to replace Dick Jones and I started working in Kip's administration as an administrative assistant, and then I also got elected to the student senate. So I started to get much more involved in a lot of—and in parallel track to the anti-war movement was a students' rights and student role in the university. And the students were trying to gain more control of the incidental fees that were they were paying, which in large part were going to the athletic department. We wanted to gain more control of that so that we could respond to the things that—students' needs. And again, you know, part of that included did a draft counseling center. Part of it included these minority cultural groups. Black—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=1924.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—Black studies. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2023.0,2024.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, there was the Black Student Union. I think there was a Native American group. I think there was a Hispanic group or a Latino group. I can't remember what they were called, but there were these minority student unions that were created. Then there was the educational issues of creation of something called a search program, which enabled people to suggest classes and they could find instructors at the university who were willing to either be the instructors or monitor it. And, you know, we had created sort of experimental education programs. There is a housing, you know, I want to create a housing office to help people find housing. There are all these things that we were trying to do to respond to the changing population, more minority students, the draft, of course, more students living off campus, hence the need for housing. It was all in a response to that changing student body. But we ran up against the fact that the student recommendations were always being ignored because we didn't have control over those incidental fees. And it was the student senate and student government were trying to be more active. We couldn't, students couldn't speak at faculty meetings. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2024.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2104.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, and University of Oregon is one in which the faculty had a lot of power and control. It was kind of unique. But students couldn't speak. The faculty meetings were a governing body of the university and students couldn't speak at that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2104.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And was there, ultimately, was there a shift where the student government got more revenue from those incidental fees? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2122.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, there was. There was a gradual shift. And when I was student body president, that was one of the major issues. We actually sued the state Board of Higher Education for control of it. But we also fought to get, when OSPIRG [Oregon Student Public Interest Research Group] was created, we fought, you know, for having incidental fees to help create OSPIRG. I actually was the first, as student body president, I actually was the first student body president to be allowed to speak at a faculty meeting. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2130.0,2168.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interesting. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2168.0,2169.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So they opened it up to allowing students to speak. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2169.0,2175.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I just want to make sure that this correct, your predecessor, Kip Morgan, was also outspoken against the war? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2175.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very much so.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2184.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And very much an activist? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2185.0,2187.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think actually that was his primary focus as student body president. And Sonya Sweek, who was vice president, her focus was more on, you know, the role of student government. Being a student government we had to prove that we could actually handle these kinds of things.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2187.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But would you say that when you ran for student body president, the war was an issue, and you were identified as being against the war? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2207.0,2216.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The war was probably the issue. The war and student rights on campus. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2216.0,2221.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Were the two central issues? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2221.0,2222.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Were the two central issues. I got elected. So I do my working, trying to get my credits and working for Kip. And then it comes down to time to, you know, Who's going to run for student body president? You know, I actually wasn't going to. Then, you know, more and more conversations. And I decided that maybe I would. Then there was somebody else named Mike Kment, who was also part of Kip's administration, that he wanted to do it. So we decided we would run together. And we actually flipped a coin to see who would run as president and vice president. And I won or it depends on how you look at it. But anyway, I ended up running for president and Mike was running for vice president, and there were a whole bunch of others running.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2222.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because one of the things that happened at that time and, you know, the proponents of the war may have looked at it as a movement, as one cohesive entity. But it really wasn't. The movement was a conglomerate of a whole bunch of diverse organizations organized against the war, all of whom often had their different strategies, different conflicted—some of the most animated arguments were among anti-war activists from different factions about what's the best strategy. I ended up being—I wasn't part of any organization. Then there was the—I'd call them the fraternity-based candidate, whose father actually was part of the Higher Education Administration. He's running. And then there were a bunch of other candidates from diverse groups. And we, Mike and I, actually, didn't win the first vote. We finished second. Because the vote was divided among all these different factions. But we finished first or we finished second and then they had a run-off against the establishment candidate, let's call him that, and Mike and I. That vote was actually taken, close to or during, what became the student strike after Kent State and Cambodia. And I remember our discussion. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2281.0,2394.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 1970?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2394.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1970. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2396.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2396.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I remember discussions that Mike and I had. Mike being very nervous that I was taking a more visible, aggressive role in the anti-war demonstrations. And I just, you know, I said, \"I'm just not going to pull back because we're running.\" It ended up that it was, at that time, the highest vote total of cast votes, and also the highest vote total of winning votes, that I got during that. But it was right in the middle or close to the student strike period. And there were, as I recall, there's stuff that happened over a period of time. There was one sort of student strike that kind of fizzled. And then there was the invasion of Kent State and Cambodia and then another student strike. And at that point, the university actually decides it's going to take a time-out. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2397.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And I want to come back and deal with this in a little more depth. But just ask you this question, do you think that your election and was a good barometer of student opinion against the war, moving against the war? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2467.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do. And it was a reflection of people wanting to have someone who was willing to be a spokesperson for the anti-war movement, as well as someone who was, you know, fighting for the students' rights and everything else. And there's some other aspects of it. Is it somebody that we can work with? I mean, basically, I said I wasn't part of any organization, but I ended up after the primary being the consensus candidate for all these other different organizations. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2484.0,2525.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as you say, it was a really diverse lot, from liberal Democrats to revolutionary Marxists. So there was a lot of juggling balls that you had to do as the student body president.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2525.0,2538.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2538.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, do you remember the Moratorium [to End the War in Vietnam] in 1969, in fall of '69? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2540.0,2551.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember the Moratorium. I also remember, it seems to me that's a time when Tom McCall called in the National Guard? \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2551.0,2564.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What happens is that the National Guard is actually, I think is called in in 1970 after an ROTC [Reserve Officers' Training Corps] protest in April—\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2564.0,2583.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(Coughing) Okay, I remember this. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2583.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—the seventh. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2584.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because I remember I had either just been elected or was going on—but I remember being at the house I was living in and a friend coming and knocking on the door and telling me, he says, \"You've got to come, you've got to come.\" And I'm saying, \"Well, why? What's going on?\" He says, \"They're about to turn burned down ROTC. About to burn down ROTC. You gotta come do something.\" I said, \"What can I do? It's not something I organized. It's not something I'm part of. I can't do anything. I can't stop it. And I don't want to participate in it. So I can't do anything.\" But I do remember the— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2584.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that was April of 1970. But the Moratorium, you might have remembered, Wayne Morse addresses, October 15, [1969], he's going to address four or five thousand students. And of course, he goes all the way back to being one of two senators that opposed the fraudulent Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964 and remained very outspoken. He, I believe, was defeated in reelection in the fall of '68 by Bob Packwood. Yeah. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2625.0,2664.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that was very frustrating because fall of '68, most of us still couldn't vote because you had to be 21. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2664.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, that's interesting. And there later would be a measure to lower the voting age to 18 [19]. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2670.0,2679.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and Congressmen Earl Blumenauer was the leader of the vote 18. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2679.0,2683.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah, yeah. That subsequently passes later on. But that's a very important point. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2683.0,2689.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We couldn't—in '68, we couldn't vote. And Packwood beats Morse. And then later, after I got out of college, I ended up working for Morse's campaign and writing speeches for him. Because he kept trying to win. He ran against Packwood again. He ran against Hatfield. He couldn't—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2689.0,2707.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when you ran for student body president, Ron, was that one of your kind of strategies, you know, get students politically engaged in the electoral process and simultaneously work to get the age of voting lowered? If I remember at the time it was, if you're 18, if you're old enough to be drafted, you should be old enough to vote. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2707.0,2732.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. I had that position and we talked about it a lot, but I didn't really get involved in that particular movement. But like I said, there were lots of different movements going on on campus. And different factions. And so as long as they were—and there were groups doing things that I didn't approve of or I didn't think it was the best thing to do. But I did get involved and supported a lot of the student faculty involvement that the petition, for example, to get the fifty-some-thousand signatures that were presented to Hatfield in support of the Hatfield-McGovern. You know, I encouraged that. I participated in that and worked with those people. But my electoral involvement didn't really come until—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2732.0,2784.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—until later on. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2784.0,2784.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—until later on. Yeah.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2784.0,2786.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. So in the spring of '70, while you're student body president, April 15 the faculty narrowly vote to keep ROTC on campus and the university remained the host of ROTC. And then after that, students, three or four hundred students march over to ROTC and start doing rocks and bottles and a lot of physical damage to the building. And this is before the invasion of Cambodia. Weeks before the invasion of Cambodia. Do you remember that protest? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2786.0,2828.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, I do. Definitely. It was something for some of us that didn't necessarily think it was the best way to protest. And that often happened in the war, in the anti-war movement, is that there were things that were done that, you know, some of us would not agree with as a way to do it. That we thought got too far, created too much backlash, whatever. At the same time, you're in this position when you're asked about it. Instead of spending your time attacking the people that are doing it, you spend your time trying to remind people why these people are so angry. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2828.0,2873.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. Yeah. Well put. But you were concerned about that kind of violence against property as potentially playing into a right-wing backlash?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2873.0,2887.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2887.0,2889.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, of course, there's going to be a—after students were indicted for inciting to riot at ROTC on April 15, then several hundred students are going to take over Johnson Hall. That's going to be occupied, the main administration building. And then Governor Tom McCall is going to call in the National Guard to campus. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2889.0,2919.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2919.0,2919.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were the newspapers calling you up at that time and asking you, What do you think of this and so forth?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2919.0,2924.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when was that?\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2924.0,2926.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spring of 1970 and just the timeline here is that the Cambodia invasion is going to take place at the very end of April, and then that first week of May you're going to have Kent State and four students gunned down. But this ROTC protest goes back to April 15. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2926.0,2953.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think I got a lot of people calling me because they don't think I was elected then. I don't think—I was elected in the middle of the Kent State, Cambodia invasion.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2953.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. I see, so you had just assumed office at that time? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2965.0,2968.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or I was running, I don't think—I think I was elected right in the middle of that. It wasn't until May that I took office. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2968.0,2973.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Got it.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2973.0,2974.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I wasn't. I did get used to people sticking a microphone in my face and saying, What do you think? In fact, I remember one interview. It was in the summer I had been elected. And then after summer and when people are coming back to school and a reporter asked me, you know, what do I think's going to happen? Or, you know, it was some normal question, but kind of a cheesy question. And I sort of got sarcastic with him, you know. I said, \"Oh, things are fine, you know. The war is winding down and people aren't so upset\" and all that. And I just kind of got sarcastic with him because I just kept getting asked the same questions all the time. But I got pretty good at handling that. It was part of my training. I got pretty good at handling that.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=2974.0,3028.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a journalist you went over to the other side? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3028.0,3031.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I got decent—I was prepared by the time I got into electoral politics. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3031.0,3036.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But do you remember that late in April of 1970 that, as there was this protest around ROTC, the 13th Avenue through the campus is going to be shut down, literally, by students. And you remember that? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3036.0,3058.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, we planned that. And actually a group of us planned that as a way to maintain the momentum of the student strike, which had taken over the student union. And we were trying to keep momentum, because we had a lot of people participating and a lot of people demonstrating, and we wanted something. We planned it at Max's Tavern, the group of us, thinking about how can we keep the momentum going? And then we started talking about reminding ourselves, how for a decade, the university and students at the university had been trying to close 13th Street, because log trucks had free rein to go in on traffic and a lot of log trucks were just going through campus, except for the 10 minutes allowed before and between classes and the street hadn't been closed. So we decided, well, maybe we'll close it. And we created a plan, got some people together to bring, you know, to buy some bricks and to find some plants and to find some mortar, which was convenient because the new law school is being constructed at the time. After one demonstration in a free speech platform session, we said, This is, you know, if you want to help do this, we're going to go do it. And we had actually sent somebody else out, during the day, to find the code requirements for fire lane access on the street. And we went out and built some planters and closed it and spent the next week trying to protect it from people who wanted to tear it down. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3058.0,3172.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But this really did tap into a vein of student discontent. And it was really a continuation of this issue of student power and particularly power of place, which it was a public safety issue. It was a noise issue. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3172.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it was a level of frustration—the level of frustration over that general environment, as well as the specifics about this particular street, had grown to the point that it was pretty easy to take the whole environment of these demonstrations and the anti-war movement, and say, direct people's energy to helping to close the street. That was actually fairly easy to do, because of that level of frustration that had built up with, I hate the term establishment, but it's a level of frustration with the slow pace of change. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3190.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Change. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3236.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, change. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3236.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So at the end of April, with Nixon's invasion of Cambodia and a widening of the war, that invasion was preceded by secret bombing of Cambodia. And then these four students are going to be gunned down protesting the war at Kent State in early May. And simply all hell breaks loose, and hundreds of campuses are going to shut down. Talk about what you remember about that phase of the protests. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3236.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mostly I just I just remember the degree, I remember that, well—it's probably captured best by the four dead in Ohio song, you know. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3270.0,3286.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Crosby, Stills and Nash, and Young. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3286.0,3289.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Neil Young. Yeah. I think it was just this huge amount of anger as well as, Has it really come to this? This is where we begin to feel like we really are in a battle and that we will do anything. It's time to do anything. And the thing that we could do most was just rise up on the campus. I think it's also something to where, this university itself and the faculty when they also do this. This is something that's gone beyond the pale. And this is something where we have to—we can't ignore this any more. And as I recall, the university actually sort of called a time out and said we're canceling classes. We want you to use that time to talk to each other about these issues, about what we can do. And I think most of the—I think it was Mothers' Weekend or Parents' Weekend, which used to be a big fraternity thing, and all the parents would come down. They sort of canceled a lot of the activities and had a big gathering at Mac Court. It was one of the first things I had to do as student body president was talk there. It was sort of like, students are trying to talk to the parents and get them to understand what we're thinking, what we're feeling. But it was a time when the university itself decided that classes at this point are not what we should be doing. We should be a facilitator of conversations about the status of things right now. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3289.0,3426.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know I actually uncovered a historical nugget that, in May of 1970, after the explosion and campus was closed, President Clark actually recommends academic amnesty for any students who felt that, you know, because they were engaged in the protest or this ongoing discussion, they couldn't focus on their schoolwork. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3426.0,3456.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. No, I think, you know, that was a time when you appreciated the university you were at. Because the people at the university and the university administration were under a great deal of pressure. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3456.0,3471.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From the legislature?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3471.0,3472.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From the legislature and from politicians and other citizens. I think they understood why students were doing what they were doing and took a reasonable, empathetic approach. I think they could also see what happens if you don't, because if you remember at San Francisco State and a bunch of other places, that tried to— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3472.0,3511.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A real crackdown on student dissent. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3511.0,3513.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When Correlli (??) tried to crack down on it, it did not go well. And I don't think the people at the university wanted anything like that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3513.0,3522.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at this time, were you networking with other student presidents around, certainly, around the state? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3522.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not so much. That came later. Once I got elected student body president, I became involved in the National Student Association. Because of the University of Oregon's reputation at the time, which was sort of the Berkeley of the North, and because of what we'd done during that, when I went to NSA meetings, people sought us out or people responded to being from the U of O and I started working with a lot of them. That's kind of what led to my trip to North Vietnam in December of '70. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3532.0,3579.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And let's talk about that in just a minute. That's very important. But two things. You certainly, in your role as student body president, you were trying to articulate to the media, to parents, to faculty about what this huge explosion, what it represents?\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3579.0,3597.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I was trying to articulate that and stuff was going on at other campuses. Portland State, for example, OSU, not so much. But commensurate with that, there had been this earlier effort that got started in the fall of, I think would be the fall of 1970. Ralph Nader comes, gives a speech at the University of Oregon about creating OSPIRG. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3597.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3630.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in order to create OSPIRG, you know, student governments had to work together. So there was some working together with student governments at that level. It wasn't so much on the anti-war stuff. I think, at that time, most campuses were sort of on their own. There was a little bit of communication amongst—there was more like, \"Oh, did you hear about what happened at Berkeley or Wisconsin or Columbia?\" And then, of course, national coverage of things. So you got this feeling that the same thing you were going through, the same things you were participating in or trying to organize, were happening in other places. But I don't recall a lot of actual talking to the people in those places until I got to the National Student Association meetings. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3630.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other thing just to mention is that there's a ballot initiative in Eugene in late May [1971] that demands complete withdrawal by the end of December 1971. And it does pass. And same challenge, though, there were many students who couldn't vote in that, correct, even though they were living off campus. But Hatfield was going to come to office. Senator Hatfield comes to campus just before that vote in mid-May. And he speaks to 3000. And as part of the protests, students had been out in the community gathering signatures for support of the so-called Hatfield-McGovern Amendment that would have cut off funds and mandated withdrawal of American troops by the end of 1971. And so you were a participant in organizing that? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3690.0,3763.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, there was a couple of faculty, I think, particularly in the political science department, maybe some from sociology. They worked with a group of active students who were the kind of students that wanted to do something, but felt like a lot of the other stuff was associated with too much violence or confrontation. And there was a faculty student coalition that sent people out and gathered these petitions. I'm trying to think, Al somebody was the political science professor. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3763.0,3798.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, there was another one, Dan Goldrich. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3798.0,3802.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dan Goldrich, Al [Szymanski] and Jim Klonoski. I can't remember what Al's name was but, or maybe it was Art. It wasn't Art Pearl but it was a political science professor. And they worked with this great group of students. And they were mostly younger students—I was older at time, I think I was 22, 23—younger students and a lot of women. And they gathered—they went out and gathered all of these signatures. And it was sort of, Okay, it was saying, you know, Look, you can dismiss what you think are violent demonstrations or confrontational demonstrations all you want, but here's us. This is your idyllic democratic process. We're out here doing these petitions and here's—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3802.0,3864.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was tabling in front of food markets or even going door to door? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3864.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah. And it was out in the community. There's not that many students to, you know—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3870.0,3877.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. So let's talk about—you're going to be part of the National Student Association delegation that is going to go to North Vietnam in December of 1970. How did that come about and who organized that? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3877.0,3897.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that's an interesting story because people often get it wrong or people assume things that are not true. And this is actually part of getting to know John Froines. I go to the National Student Association meeting that summer after I got elected. And at the meeting is John Froines and Rennie Davis. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3897.0,3929.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another anti-war leader who I think was also indicted in the Chicago seven. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3929.0,3933.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3933.0,3941.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're selling this concept to the National Student Association, that the National Student Association should send a delegation of student body presidents from the U.S. over to South Vietnam to meet with the South Vietnamese Student Union. And what they wanted, and this is all in the context of what they have called this idea of the people's peace treaty. And the People's Peace Treaty is a document to be developed by primarily students in other organizations in South Vietnam, the student delegation from the U.S., and a Council of Churches person who has been living in South Vietnam, who can get into the north, was supposed to go to North Vietnam to get buy-in from North Vietnamese student organizations. So that you have this document called the People's Peace Treaty, which calls for an end to the war and says we the people are not at war with each other, it's our governments that are at war with each other. And the treaty was supposed to become an organizing tool. You bring that back, and it's part of an organizing tool around which you can organize anti-war efforts and get local governments at a local level to sign, get entities in the U.S. to sign on to the People's Peace Treaty. And so it's supposed to be an organizing tool, but our delegation was supposed to go meet with the South Vietnamese Student Union, and the Council of Churches person was supposed to go to North Vietnam and do the work there. And also there was a Quaker-based, I forget, the Americans—I'm amazed I can't think of it. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=3941.0,4062.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's all right. But there was a professor, Steven Deutsch, a sociologist, who is also part of the Quaker community in Eugene. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4062.0,4070.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the Quakers had someone based in North Vietnam. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4070.0,4073.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Oh, I see.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4073.0,4074.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the Council of Churches person in South Vietnam and the Quaker representative in North Vietnam, they were going to be the ones handling the People's Peace Treaty in North Vietnam. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4074.0,4089.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the whole thrust of the People's Peace Treaty was, if our government will not take concrete steps towards ending the war, the people will do that apart from the government. And there would be a direct relationship between students and religious bodies in Vietnam, in both North and South Vietnam, and in the United States. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4089.0,4112.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And the idea was that you go to entities like your local governments, your city councils, universities, various entities, community groups, and they sign on. So you start building and you use it as a tool, which we did in Eugene later, taking it to the city council to try and get them to sign on to the People's Peace Treaty. So that's what it was supposed to be. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4112.0,4148.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How was it? How long were you in North Vietnam? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4148.0,4151.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that was about two weeks. It's a whole another story about the sort of, not the trauma, but the emotional impact, of coming back from North Vietnam and what we saw there and me getting back from North Vietnam on Christmas Eve. So this was the plan. And the Student Association was supposed to put this delegation together and we're supposed to go to South Vietnam. Sometime in the fall, John Froines comes to my office at the student union and says, \"Do you want to go to North Vietnam?\" Because the South Vietnamese government would not let us in to meet with the South Vietnamese Student Union. So it actually got changed because of that, that we would—the North Vietnamese were perfectly willing to have us come in, I believe, this was before Jane Fonda even went to North Vietnam. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4151.0,4217.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4217.0,4217.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what was supposed to be a trip to South Vietnam got derailed by the South Vietnamese government, and we ended up going to North Vietnam. And we did the People's Peace Treaty. And there's a couple of little stories to tell about that. There was a guy. And it was a delegation of student body presidents and some newspaper editors. And there was a student body president from Syracuse named David Ifshin, who at one point later on I think was considered as a potential high-level State Department employee in the Carter administration. David's kind of the lead of the delegation. And John had asked me if I wanted to go, so I was part of the delegation. We saw a lot of—we spent time in Hanoi, and we went to a lot of different places, to schools, to villages. The most emotional part, however, was probably going to what then was the war crimes tribunal where we're actually meeting people who have been napalmed. I remember one person who just had the cluster bomb, a little—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4217.0,4310.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—Spikes sent out, hundreds of spikes in so many directions.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4310.0,4314.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so many in the arm that it couldn't be operated on. So that was a—and seeing people whose ears had melted and hearing them and talking to them. It was one of the most emotional experiences of the trip. And it was one of the things where you come back and say, Look, I may not be responsible for the war, but I feel responsible for trying to end it. And you come back with a whole new commitment. There is a little lighter side story for—it might have been David and I and that group were in a school in a village and there's a little celebration, and then there's these speeches and stuff. And David decides that he wants to burn the draft card in North Vietnam as a signal of solidarity. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4314.0,4371.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Remind me who David was again. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4371.0,4372.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Ifshin was student body president at Syracuse. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4372.0,4375.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4375.0,4376.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unfortunately, David passed away from cancer about ten years ago or so. So David, who's this fast-talking New Yorker, decides he wants to burn his draft card. He turns to me and he says, \"Give me your draft card.\" I said, \"Why?\" He said, \"I don't have mine. I forgot to bring mine.\" So I gave him my draft card and he burns my draft card. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4376.0,4403.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he said it was his draft card. (laughing)\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4403.0,4406.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So he's burning his draft card as a demonstration in North Vietnam. And it turned out it was mine, because he'd forgotten his. And then the other thing that happened, is—I can't remember when, but sometime after I got elected, it might have been in the fall and before the trip to North Vietnam. Because I was a—because they'd gone to the lottery, and the lottery really changed a lot of stuff on campus because now people are really worried because there's no more student deferments. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4406.0,4448.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And literally, you would be called if your number came up, but if your number didn't come up, then you're home free. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4448.0,4459.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You were going to get a number. If it was a low enough number, you weren't. In my case I was about 135, which was in the kind of middle, you know, the first third or something. But I did get called up. And I spent a long time trying to figure out what I was going to do. I don't remember if this was before or after going to North Vietnam, but I do remember the trauma of trying to figure out what to do. I had several options. One is that I could try and figure out some way to get out, faking something or doing something. And I decided, No, I'm going to play it straight. Because one of my options, other options, was filing for conscientious objector status. I figured if I'm going to file conscientious objector status, I'm going to play it straight. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4459.0,4523.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4523.0,4525.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that was one option then. Okay, If I don't get conscientious objector status, what am I going to do? Am I going to go? Which was still a possibility. Was I going to go to Canada? Which was a possibility, but I really didn't want to leave my parents behind. Was I willing to go to jail? So I'm doing this, trying to figure this out. And then I send a—I write a letter to my draft board, which is Milwaukie, Oregon. Which isn't exactly—you know, it's not Eugene, Oregon. It's Milwaukee Oregon, Clackamas County, fairly conservative. So I just write this letter about my conscience says I can't go. But I'm playing it straight. So I get on the bus, I go up to— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4525.0,4580.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Portland? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4580.0,4580.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—go up to Portland. I'm sitting next to a friend who's got asthma pretty bad, and he knows that he's probably not going to be taken. So I go up there and I'm playing it straight. And I go through everything. And there's a point in time when you're in a circle and this doctor comes out and he asks you to, you know, sticks his finger in your groin and asks you to cough. He's going around doing it to everybody. And I cough. And then he looks at me and he says, \"Where is it?\" He has a really—it's an accusatory tone. It's not your, you know, family doctor. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4580.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4620.0,4621.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he's like, \"Where is it?\" He's really accusing me and like, he's accusing me of something. I have no idea what he's talking about. So he gives me his card and tells me to go see the head surgeon. So, I go in and I see the head surgeon, and that surgeon makes me jump up and down for about 30 seconds because they think that I—they can't find one testicle, and they think I've shoved it up and I'm hiding it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4621.0,4645.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4645.0,4647.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I jump up and down for about 30 seconds and they do so more roaming around. And he gives me a pink card, which I guess has some symbolism and says, you couldn't get into the Army even if you wanted to. Because it turns out that I have had—and I guess I knew this, I mean I had played athletics in high school and I was on the freshman tennis team, so, I mean, I've been checked, you know, cleared to play athletics and everything. Everything functioned. I'm not in the process or the habit of counting my balls. But it turns out I have an undescended testicle from birth. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4647.0,4691.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you didn't know it. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4691.0,4692.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I didn't know it. And they're telling me you can't get in even if you want to. And, so, I'm kind of beaming, and I go out and I see my friend who's all ready because his asthma has been dismissed. And we decide that instead of waiting for the bus, we're just going to hitchhike back because we are so happy. I get back. I call my parent, I call my mother up. And she's ecstatic. And I'm saying, \"Mom, I would, I had no idea—I don't recall knowing this from birth. And I spent the last four years worrying about getting drafted when I had no—it was impossible.\" But I have had a few times when I'm asked about my military service, I have said, Well, truthfully, I just have to tell you that I just didn't have the balls for it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4692.0,4745.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(laughing) That's good! \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4745.0,4749.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that was another side story there. But yeah, it forced—the whole point of the story is not so much about that, it is about the trauma of going through that process of figuring out now that I'm drafted, what am I going to do?\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4749.0,4771.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4771.0,4772.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What are my options? Am I willing to go to Canada? Am I willing to go to jail? And I pretty much knew I'd apply for CO [conscientious objector status]. But what am I going to do? \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4772.0,4787.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I wanted to jump back to the People's Peace Treaty. You've made this trip as a student leader to North Vietnam, and you actually take a lot of flak from more conservative political leaders and so forth in the community. But then the idea is to take the People's Peace Treaty out to local government and faith-based, community-based organizations. Talk a little bit about that whole process. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4787.0,4822.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, you know, this was a thing. You'll remember that the organizing tools that we had then are not like we are now with social media and 24-hour news and everything else. So most of what was done was in small groups. I got invited to a lot of places to give, you know, presentations and discuss the meeting and discuss the trip and the treaty with, you know, small groups. Ten, fifteen people, sometimes in different organizations. But it also involved, a lot of it, existing anti-war organizations, or activists in the community, more than just the campus. So I got asked to speak about my experiences in a lot of different small groups. And then the treaty did provide something around which the anti-war various groups could organize.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4822.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do remember that we were taking something to the city council, and I remember organizing a march from campus down to city council for a vote on something that had to do with ending the war or adopting the People's Peace Treaty, some resolution the city council was going to vote on. And we had organized this demonstration, but there had been a lot of different demonstrations for which I didn't necessarily have any part in. So all these different groups and had been fairly confrontational. I got word from somebody that if our demonstration turned into chaos or turned violent or confrontational, then I would be arrested and I was urged not to do it. I didn't take that advice. I felt like we had organized it well. By we, I mean, all the groups working on trying to organize this. We had enough bullhorns and enough monitors, and we were going to be fine. And we did. We marched from campus down through town to city council. We picked up people along the way, we stayed on the sidewalk, had a big city council meeting. I don't think we actually got the vote we wanted but we did get some anti-war vote out of the city council of some kind. I can't remember what the wording was. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4890.0,4972.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And do you remember in April of that year lobbying legislators in Salem about the People's Peace Treaty? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4972.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I really don't. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4980.0,4983.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4983.0,4983.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't. I did not have much contact with legislators other than the ones from our area.  But at the time, Eugene didn't—I don't think they had a lot of Democratic legislators. They may have had a couple. The City Council probably had as many Republicans as it did Democrats, but the Republicans were your moderate to liberal Republicans, that some of whom I still respect to this day. Mary Burroughs, for example. John Anderson, I think was the name of the mayor. It wasn't the same Republicans that you see now, this was a different—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=4983.0,5033.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And certainly Senator Mark Hatfield was representation (both speakers speaking) represented those moderate Republicans in the state. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5033.0,5041.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Different Republican Party locally as well as nationally. But I don't remember doing a lot of work with legislators. We did have a—one of the things that the student governments had done, in trying to gain control of incidental fees, is we'd actually hired a lobbyist to work at the legislature and to communicate with the state board. Turned out Russell Sadler ended up making a journalism career out of covering the legislature. But that was mostly on students' rights issues. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5041.0,5079.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5079.0,5080.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, he kind of tried to be a buffer between the board and students and the board reactions to stuff. But it wasn't about the People's Peace Treaty. It was more on policy decisions. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5080.0,5101.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, in May of 1970 there are these national demonstrations organized, and the main one is going to be on May 1 in Washington, D.C. But there was also occurring in different communities, and it was tending to focus on the People's Peace Treaty, but it was also militant in a nonviolent way. And the slogan was, \"If the government won't stop the war, we will stop the government.\" And do you do you remember that moment? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5101.0,5137.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, if it was May of 1970, you wouldn't have had the People's Peace Treaty. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5137.0,5141.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1971, May of '71. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5141.0,5144.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I do remember that. But by then I was no longer student body president. Probably in May of '71 would have been the end of my term. And I do remember—I don't remember exactly what happened in Eugene in relation to that. Because I think before that we had had the march down to— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5144.0,5170.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. But on May 1st, there was 3000 demonstrated downtown, kind of in coordination with these national actions in Washington, D.C. But then each day after May 1, 2, 3 and 4, there was mobile roving demonstrators that would do civil disobedience in front of the IRS, the Selective Service, the Army recruiters, ROTC. And we went, we literally went from one to another, and sometimes we changed plans on a dime. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5170.0,5208.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember there was a—Marion Malcolm talks about a big demonstration that was downtown. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5208.0,5215.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that was the one Marion Malcolm, with the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, that she was the chair and the facilitator on May 1. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5215.0,5225.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I remember she talks about some where she was worried what I was going to say, whether I was going to do something like haul out a communist flag or something. But I don't know if that was that same demonstration. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5225.0,5235.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, well, I mean, you certainly were the best representative of this very organized effort to negotiate this People's Peace Treaty and create pressure from below on the federal government. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5235.0,5251.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm having trouble remembering. I don't really remember. I remember there was something that happened after I was—maybe it was later, maybe it was in the fall. Something happened and there were these demonstrations and I wasn't really involved much then. But I remember talking to some people and they couldn't figure, who are working on this, and they couldn't think of what to do. I think it had to do with some resumption of bombing or something. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5251.0,5282.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it was a resumption of bombing of the North and the mining of Haiphong Harbor. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5282.0,5288.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember suggesting to people, why don't you, if it's a resumption of bombing in all the bomb craters, why don't you dig bomb—why don't you take shells and dig bomb craters in the front of Johnson Hall. And I think I suggested that to them, and I think they did that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5288.0,5304.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It absolutely occurred on April 12. Four hundred anti-war protesters dug symbolic bomb craters in front of Johnson Hall. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5304.0,5313.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah. (both laughing). It was kind of an off-the-cuff suggestion, but, yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5313.0,5319.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you graduate, and talk a little bit about what comes after the anti-war movement for you.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5319.0,5334.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it was pretty tough after graduation. I wasn't sure what to do. You know, I went to school as a journalist. And by the time I finished, my career as a journalist in Oregon was probably done. I probably wasn't going to get hired by anybody. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5334.0,5355.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"By The Oregonian. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5355.0,5356.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, yeah, any newspaper in Oregon. And I didn't know what I was going to do. I went back to the NSA, National Student Association, meeting and had the potential of running for vice president of NSA with a woman who had been president at University of Wisconsin. I think she eventually became a big fundraiser for various causes down in Los Angeles and Hollywood. But, I—for some reason, I decided not to do that. I wasn't sure I wanted to live in D.C. or do the whole thing. I was kind of burned out, actually, and I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. I didn't have any job. Kind of decided I still wanted to stay in Oregon. And I was frankly pretty lost there for a while. For a few years, I ended up tending bar as a way to get some income. But I had also, because of the Democratic Party had become the center of the anti-war movement as far as electoral politics go, I'd gotten involved in electoral in the Democratic Party. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5356.0,5434.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I forgot to ask you, had you been involved in the McGovern campaign? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5434.0,5438.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not really. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5438.0,5440.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Okay. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5440.0,5441.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The McGovern campaign, at that time I was still, you know, the reporter. I had a good friend who succeeded me as student body president who was heavily involved with the McGovern campaign.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5441.0,5454.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, okay. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5454.0,5458.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I had gotten involved in the Democratic Party in Lane County, which was pretty active and a good party. And, I didn't know what I was going to do. And I was having trouble finding jobs and I had a bartender job and I just didn't know what I was going to do, but I was burnt out. My journalism career sort of got sidetracked. And it wasn't until the 1972 elections, which were the first single member district elections in Oregon after the Supreme Court one person, one vote, decision. The Oregon legislature was controlled by Democrats and the Speaker of the House was from Springfield, Dick Iman, who was a liberal Democrat, and he got me a job working in the legislature. And I worked in the legislature again in '75, and now my jobs are in electoral politics. And in '70, '72, I think, no in '74, my friend Grattan Kerans, who had been editor of The Oregon Daily Emerald while I was student body president (mic noise). He ran, he decided to run for the legislature. So I worked on his campaign. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5458.0,5553.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Grattan had been one of the editors of The [Oregon Daily] Emerald also? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5553.0,5560.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was editor when I was student body president. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5560.0,5561.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, good. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5561.0,5563.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I got involved in his campaign, which he actually won in '74. And then Weaver, Congressman Jim Weaver, who had run several times before and always lost, was part of the Watergate tide. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5563.0,5579.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Watergate babies. And he was also very anti-war. Whereas his opponent, longtime congressman, I believe, John Dellenback, he lost re-election to Weaver. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5579.0,5592.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He lost after the fallout from Watergate. And he had been kind of a, he'd been a supporter of the war and gotten a little meeker because his, and I knew his son, Rich Dellenback, as well as Bill Wyatt, who is the son of another Republican congressman from Oregon up in the northeast. So by then I'm starting to get more involved in the electoral politics. I've got friends that I've made and worked with in the anti-war movement, who are active in the Democratic Party. And in '75 I worked for the legislature again. Worked for, actually, a representative from Portland who hired me, and said he would have hired me for administrative assistant, but he already had one. So I actually ended up being a committee secretary. I'm actually doing minutes and stuff like that, but it was a job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5592.0,5663.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then in Weaver's first term, a job came open and I applied for that job. I applied, went to Weaver and asked for a job, and I was hoping to be working in Oregon out of his Oregon office. But Weaver sort of said, \"Well, okay.\" He said he'd like to hire me. And I said, \"Okay.\" But he said he wanted me to work in D.C. And I said, \"Well I kind of need some time to think about that because that's not what I had in mind.\" He said, \"Okay, well, call me tomorrow.\" So I thought about it overnight and I decided I'd take it because I really needed to work. And that turned into a nine-year stint as a district representative for him in Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5663.0,5712.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So now I'm pretty well entrenched in local politics and I now have a job, so I'm feeling a lot better. And I, actually, as District Representative, I actually hired Peter DeFazio, who eventually replaced Weaver and has been there for 35 years or so until retiring this year. So I did that. And then again, my friend Grattan, who'd become Speaker of the House, decided to run for State Treasurer. We lived in the same area. Opened up the seat, after saying no, a lot of times to people urging me to run, I finally decided, you know, if I'm going to do it, it's something I'd want to do. So decided if I'm going to do it, now is as good a time as any. So after saying no for a lot of times I said yes, got elected. With all the experience I've earned in Weaver's office on a lot of issues like energy issues, particularly Bonneville Power Administration and utilities in the Northwest. Plus, it was just after the AT\u0026T breakup. We were getting a lot of calls from seniors. So I went in knowing that telecommunications was going to be a big issue. So I worked on the Post AT\u0026T legislation and gained the support of both consumer groups and utilities. When a position on the Oregon Public Utility Commission came open after they had just created a three-person PUC [Public Utility Commission] and Governor Goldschmidt appointed me to that. And I thought that was maybe six years at the most, finishing out a two-year term and getting reappointed. Turned out it was a fourteen-year stint.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5712.0,5819.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And after that, I ended up doing a lot of consulting internationally where there was a lot of countries, particularly former Soviet Union countries, but South American countries all trying to, either recover from being in Soviet Union or from dictatorships and authoritarian governments, wanting to create regulatory bodies in order to raise capital to improve their electricity system. So I did a lot of international consulting. And then sort of retired in about 2016 or '17. But after I left PUC, my journalism career came back full circle. And I actually got asked to write by the local Statesman Journal newspaper, got asked to write a weekly column on politics. So for fourteen years I wrote a weekly column about politics, sometimes from overseas. It was supposed to be weekly. Sometimes I couldn't get it in. But I was an independent contractor so it worked out. I was not a staff person. But I was able to sort of utilize my journalism career. And my journalism also served me well at the Public Utility Commission. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5819.0,5903.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Would you say, Ron, you obviously developed a very strong commitment to public service, both as an elected official, as a staffer, and then appointed to the PUC, would you say that your formative years at the university and then in the anti-war movement and then as a spokesperson for students, that that would shape some of your later career choices? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5903.0,5933.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I think it yeah, it had a big impact. I tell people in terms of my training that, you know, the two jobs that trained me the most to be a public utility commissioner and a legislator, were journalism and bartending. (laughing) But all of that, I ended up at that PUC having journalism experience which is communication experience. I ended up having legislative experience, political experience, both campaigning and trying to get things done in a legislative environment. I also ended up with, and some of it developed over time, it's just something that happens when you start being a spokesperson. I developed, you know, a pretty good sense about public speaking and an ability to do that. And it all kind of came together in the PUC job, which seemed to suit me very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=5933.0,6005.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I often wonder sometimes if the PUC job hadn't come open would I have stayed with the political career and how far might I have gone. But, and even now, now that I'm retired, I had more time to spend on local political issues. And so I'm president of the local Salem City Club, and I'm on the planning commission and I'm part of a group called Progressive Salem that focuses on getting progressives elected to nonpartisan local offices like the school board or city council. And we've been pretty successful in the last eight years or so in doing that. So yeah, I mean, it's not the path that I expected. I mean, I think like a lot of us, the war and the politics of that time sent us in different directions than we may have expected or intended. I gave a speech once as a replacement to a person, who was state treasurer, was supposed to speak to a group of honor students being honored by the local paper, and I had to give a speech at the last minute. I had about half a day to prepare, and I didn't really prepare. But what I said was, look, and these people were really impressive and they were going to be doctors they were going to do all this sort of stuff, they had SAT scores, one person had perfect math on his SAT, and some were, you know, because of their family situation, were going to community college, but they were really bright. You know all I could say was, I know that you've got these high expectations, and you may have your whole career planned out, but stuff's going to change. If you count bartending, I've had seven careers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6005.0,6125.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the thing that I don't think people who didn't live through the sixties and that period of time don't understand, is how difficult a period that was. Even though it shaped me and it, and you know, it set me on certain path, so it's not something I'd ever want to go through again. But this was a really, really—that was a really, really difficult time for everybody. And plus we were doing it through all these cultural changes that were going on. But I just, I think people, part of it's because we don't have the draft anymore, and even though we've had these other wars since then that people have opposed, it's different because we haven't relied on the draft. But this was a really, really traumatic, difficult time to go through there. It created a lot of camaraderie, but it's something that unless you went through it, you really can't understand. It was not an easy time. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6125.0,6214.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And some say, as the late Tom Hayden noted, SDS and anti-war leader, wrote, \"Yes, we should honor those who served in Vietnam, but we should also honor and commemorate those who were participants and leaders in the anti-war movement.\" \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6214.0,6239.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. No, I agree. Because it did, it actually, it did have an effect, as we've as we've learned since then, that the anti-war movement did keep some things from happening. I think we also created a political environment that still lasts and a political activism that still— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6239.0,6264.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—Absolutely. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6264.0,6264.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—has created roots and seeds of political activism that exists today. And, you know, that activism started to show up in all kinds of different movements. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6264.0,6282.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And certainly when you look at the emergence of the environmental movement, the gay and lesbian and now the trans movements, disability rights—\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6282.0,6294.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I was gonna say.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6294.0,6296.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—there's just so many movements that have been. You know, and some historians now talk about the long sixties that goes back really rooted in the civil rights movement of the forties and the fifties. But then coming forward to environmental, women, gay and lesbian, disability rights, in the seventies, that then spilled over into the eighties. And then we got this anti-interventionist movement against American involvement in Central America.\n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6296.0,6326.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. When you mentioned disabilities, I thought of the movie Crip Camp, which is about the history of the start of the people in the American for Disabilities Act and the activism around that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6326.0,6343.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6343.0,6345.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"An interesting movie and the woman, one of the primary characters in the movie, just passed away recently. But I think— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6345.0,6357.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And now, of course, Black Lives Matter. And I think we can make a cogent argument that Black Lives Matter, it's rooted in the Black community, but there's a broader awareness of the need for criminal justice reform and what we call community control of the police. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6357.0,6376.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"See, I think, you know, the baby boomers in that generation, we were the—we grew up in the way in which the world was, we were told somewhat superficially that this is the way the world is, this is how it operates, and then we went through the shooting of one president. We went through shooting of Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, and then we had Watergate. And, all of a sudden, Look, people, this idyllic American democracy isn't the way we were taught it. And then the cultural change of superficiality and materialism, a lot of us really rejected. But, you know, after World War II, there was a certain image of America that we were taught. You know, I look back at how I was taught civics. Nothing works that way anymore. Nothing works that way anymore. Congress doesn't break down in—when I, even when I was a public utility commissioner, Congress was still the House. You still had Ways and Means, and you still had twelve—the congressman I worked for, Jim Weaver, he used to vote against every appropriation. I think there are twelve or thirteen appropriations bills, he used to vote against every one of them except the Interior Department, which funded the forest, and ag, and a whole bunch of stuff. It used to drive the conservative organizations that rated you crazy, because they couldn't—but they don't do that budget anymore. We negotiate the whole big package and debt limit deal. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6376.0,6508.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6508.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The campaign financing thing and the whole—it just doesn't work the way the idyllic democratic civics course tells you it does. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6510.0,6523.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hey, Ron, this has been a really rich and informative interview. And we've covered a lot of ground. But I just want to ask you, is there anything we haven't covered? Any last words you would have? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6523.0,6537.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not really. I think I try to make the point about how I think people who didn't go through it don't understand how traumatic it was to go through. And also, one of the things—an observation I made in talking with people about that time is, I think we forget that, you know, we did this with posters and word of mouth. We didn't have social media, we didn't have high tech phones and ways to communicate. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6537.0,6566.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We didn't have answering machines. We did have a telephone. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6566.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we—I do recall, we were pretty sure the FBI [Federal Bureau of Investigation] was surveilling us and particularly our phones. But, I think one of the one of the strategies, some friends of mine thought is, Okay, we know they're surveilling us, so who cares? And I think that threw them off because they think that we're supposed to be paranoid about it. We said, We don't really think we're really doing anything wrong. So, you know, we just acted like we knew they were surveilling us. In fact, I did get a—there's a court case or there's an agreement on, I'll show you the apology. I actually, when I was working for the legislature in '73, I got a call from The Oregon Daily Emerald that wanted me to comment on my FBI file that had leaked. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6570.0,6617.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, it had been leaked. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6617.0,6618.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It had been leaked. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6618.0,6620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you hadn't seen it? \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6620.0,6621.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hadn't seen it. I didn't know it had been leaked. I didn't know they had it. They leaked to a right-wing radio commentator. I actually, I should have gotten more, but, I had an attorney in Eugene who knew the federal attorney in Portland, Syd Lezak, and I actually ended up with a settlement, which was small, I think a thousand dollars, but an FBI apology. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6621.0,6656.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. That they got it wrong. They didn't get it right. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6656.0,6658.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And should not have leaked it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6658.0,6659.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nRon Eachus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6659.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what I saw was just a bunch of newspaper clippings, everything was public, but they leaked it to a right-wing commentator and they apologized for that. And I got a settlement, and I gave, my attorney took one third, and I gave my two thirds to medical aid in Indochina. And I was a little upset about my attorney. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512#t=6660.0,6683.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160663/file/292512/transcript/84522/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, let's end it there. 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