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My parents moved to Eugene in 1878. And lived here for about two years when they returned to Albany. Subsequently, in April of 1884, my parents returned to Eugene. My father bought out the business of Dr. Shelton. And my father purchased the home that had been occupied by Shelton and his family previously. The location of the home was at the northwest corner of West 5th and Charlton Streets, a corner that's now occupied by Tillman and Cole. Dr. Shelton was a physician and surgeon, and as I say, he sold out to my father. Dr. Sheldon constructed a large residence. At the point where it is now commonly known as the McMurphy Place. I do not remember the exact year when that was constructed, but it was sometime after 1884. It runs, in my mind, that was probably in 1885, 1886, close to that time. W.H. Abrams was the contractor who built the house after the first residence was completed and almost ready for occupancy. The house burned down, the fire occurred at night, nobody was in the place and there was nothing in the way of household goods and effects that had been moved in at that time. The house was set fire. The man who set the fire had a begrudge against Abram. And he set the fire to do damage to Abram. The house, sir. Was rebuilt. By Abrams for Dr. Shelton. And the rebuilt residence is the building that is now known as the McMurphy Place. Dr. Shelton and his wife had one child, Alberta McMurphy. She married Robert, I said McMurphy, Alberta Sheldon. She married. Robert McMurphy, and Robert McMurry and his wife resided in that house until the death of Robert McMury and his surviving widow, Alberta, continued to live in the house until her death. My earliest recollection...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1.25,248.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/81947/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they ever find the man that burned down the house in the first place?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=250.49,254.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/81947/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It was not known who burned the house until the man who did the burning was on his deathbed and he confessed to having burned the house. I shall not give his name because nothing is gained by it. He was connected with a splendid family. At any rate. Was definitely determined from this deathbed confession that it was he who did it. He explained why and told the circumstances. My earliest recollection of Eugene of course goes back to 1878, but I don't remember but very little about Eugene at that time because I was only five years old then. However, beginning well about 1884 when my family returned to Eugene to live. Have a fairly good recollection of what Eugene was like in 1884 and subsequent years. My earliest recollection, basing my recollection on as of 1884 and subsequent years, a depot, Southern Pacific depot was a wooden building. The main line was located exactly where it is now. North of the depot. And on the north side of the main line was a warehouse. That warehouse was known as the Dunn Warehouse. F.B. Dunn had a store in Eugene where he sold Merdenna merchandise, and upon his passing, his son Frank E. Dunne succeeded him. At any rate, there was this warehouse. My recollection is that the sidetrack or spur that accommodated that warehouse Connected with the main line at a point not far from What is now known as Pearl Street, there may be an error after that. At any rate, my recollection is that that side track did not join the main line at two places. On the south side of the main line, there was a side track that took off. At a point not far from Charlton Street, if Charlton street were projected across the main line. And that track ran east towards what is now known as Laramette Street. And it was on the north side of a warehouse that was owned by S.H. Friendly. And that warehouse was known as the Friendly Warehouse. That's how it drags. Accommodated another warehouse that was west of the Friendly Warehouse. In addition to these two side tracks, there was a turntable. And that turntables was on the north side of the main track. And if Charlton Street had been projected clear through to and over Skinner's Butte kids that have gone through that turntable. In those days, there was a local passenger train that left Portland in the morning and arrived in Eugene in the afternoon, and then returned to Portland in the morning, next morning, and, uh, arrived in Portland that late afternoon. And that turntable originally was constructed for the purpose of accommodating the engine that was used for the purposes of flowing that local passenger train. Later on, that local train was extended to Roseburg. And I don't remember when that change was made, but at any rate, there was a local daily train from Portland to Roseburg in return, until the Natron color was completed. Possibly that train ran shortly after that. If one stood at the west end of the old wooden depot, he would be standing at about where the west-end of the present depot stands. Standing at that point and looking south, there was, and between where one stood and 5th Street, there was on the right a friendly warehouse. And then on the right, as you looked south, and at the northwest corner, 5th and the Ramett streets, was the A.J. Johnson building house. Johnson's home property, his whole residence, faced on 5th street, west 5th. His property extended back to the area that marked the south boundary line of the SH-friendly warehouse property. Looking to the left and between where one stood, there at the west end of the depot on 5th Street, in the earlier days there was nothing except bare ground, unoccupied. It is my recollection that at some time in about 1890 W.B. Andrews used the space that's now owned by the Oregon Electric Depot is as a lumberyard and Andrew's built sort of an office building. On the north edge, north, be the northwest corner of the property. W.B. Andrews. Was in the Battle of Buran, he was with Union troops. When Andrews came to Eugene, he lived in a house across the street from where my folks lived, on Fifth Street, and later on he built a house out at what was then the edge of the city of Eugene and on West Fifth Street. Coming now on south to the intersection of Atlanta and 5th Street and still looking south. On the left hand side. And on the east side of Lamont Street, the whole west half of that block was known as the J.B. Underwood property. And about the center of that west half, of the block, was a large residential building that had been constructed by J. B. Under wood. The Underwood Home was an attractive place. In the university days. Or rather beginning of the university days and continuing for a good many years, there are always four or five or half a dozen students who are roomed at the Underwood home. Over on the west side of Willamette Street in between 5th and 6th our earliest recollection is that nothing stood at the north or the southwest corner of that interstate at the 5th end of Williamette. In about 18 and 19. Building was constructed at that corner, and immediately west of that building was, about that time, constructed another building, a delivery stable, based on West Fifth. Between this building that was constructed on the corner and the alley south was no building at all except a hotel. Now this building on the corner was occupied by J.W. White, who was the father of Major White, and the building was occupied Mr. White's as a grocery store for a long time. Previously J. W. White had a grocery down next to Dan Henderson, who had a place of Stone's 7th Street, facing the Marana. Speaking about this hotel, it was operated by a man the name of Johnson for a long time. And then later on, and for quite a long, time a man named Gaylord operated the hotel. I should go back to the Johnson place and explain the A.J. Johnson place. H.A. Johnson and the Johnson and Warren Hotel. Two different people. A.J. Johnson. A partner of J.H. McClung and the general merchandise business and their store is where the Tiffany building is now. After they dissolved their partnership and discontinued business, H. A. Johnson sold that corner to George Gross. And this, as I recollect, was in about 1890. George Gross built a hotel at the northwest corner of the intersection of West 5th and North Ammon Street, and that hotel was for a great many years known as the Gross Hotel. Later on, he grows so the hotel to a man named Emmett Griggs. Who came to Oregon from Kentucky. And Griggs changed the name to Griggs Hotel. The hotel is now known as the Rain Hotel. A.J. Johnson, after dissolution of the partnership with Mr. McClung, was sheriff of Berline County over a period of my recollection is a couple of terms. Now then, return to the area that's immediate across the alley and it's immediately south from the old Johnson Hotel, later on known as the Gaylord Hotel. The area that is now occupied by the old post office. Is the area that was owned by W.M. Renshaw. Rinshaw owned all the land between the alley and 6th Street. And when the government wanted to build the, what we now know as the old post office, the government acquired the W. M. Rentshaw property. The new and present post office occupies the area that was formerly the site of the Johnson Hotel and J.W. White grocery store. Proceeding now from West 6th Street, or not West 6 Street, but 6th street, standing on the corner of West 6th Street and Willamette Street. At the southwest corner of that intersection was the site of the Charles Lauer Home. Charles Lahr owned the entire quarter block. His home was a large and impressive residence. At the time of the construction of the Hampton Hotel on about 19345. The Charles Lauer Home was moved to the corner of the northwest corner of West 7th and Charlton Street, and it still stands there. On the south side of the Charles Lauer Home and between the alley and 7th Street, my earliest The regulation is that... At the south, no, the north-west corner of the intersection of Rowanet and West 7th Street was the Day and Henderson Furniture place of business. And then the area between that building and the alley north was vacant. Later on, a large wooden building was constructed up in that vacant area. And was used as a roller skating rink to get burned down in due course of time. The first brick building that was constructed after the one that stood at the immediate corner was a building that, that was used by Ed Frazier, E.J. Frazier. My recollection is that Bob Day owned that property and he constructed that building. And then, later on... The High Lake Theater probably, the High Lake Theater, what's now known as the High Lake Theater was constructed. Going back to Sixth Street and looking at the east side of the Maramette Street, in the quarter block that was southeast corner of the intersection of East Sixth and the Maramett Street, there stood a house in about the center of that quarter block for good many years. It is. A place of residence of various people. And the quarter block that was immediately south of Bethlehem and being the northeast corner of the intersection of East, 7th and Milanic Streets. Right next to the alley was the residence of Bettman. Bettman was a merchant whose store was on Maramette Street. The house, the front of the house, was fairly close to the street, and the north edge of the House was fairly closed to the Alley. The building, which for a long time was used by the morning register, stood on the stands on the site of the old Betman place. The Betman residential property included all of the area between the alley and the street immediately south, which was East 7th Street, except the corner portion, which was used by Jerry Ream. It was a building in which he carried on a furniture business. And across the street was Dan Henderson's place of business. They were in the furniture business and Bob Day was also an undertaker. My recollection is that Jerry Ream also does an undertaker. 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There was no sidewalk on West 6th Street on the north side, no on the south side, but there was a sidewalk on the North side and it stood up on stilts. The surface of Willamette Street had been raised by filling in, and there is not even an attempt to make a roadway from Willamett Street to Holley Street. I do not remember what year it was when that was filled in, the year the what is now Sixth Street between Willamete and All right, let's build in. If there's several years, I'm quite sure, after 18 and 84. I remember one incident in connection with... That long. Between the Hollywood and Willamette streets and on the I'm not sure whether it was Christmas Eve, or whether it was the night before Christmas Eve. John Church. We have done on Lincoln Street between 5th and 6th. Robinson and Church had a hardware store on Willamette Street, and John Church was carrying home some Christmas presents. At that time they had a couple of boys. Later on the family was increased, another boy and a little girl. And the railing didn't extend along that sidewalk because it was on the north side of West 6th Street. It was nighttime and John Church stepped off. The result was that the Christmas presents from John Church all got muddied and left. Now standing at the intersection of 7th and Waramette Street as we look south. At the southwest corner of the intersection at West 7th and Lamb Street was the millinery store of Carrie Rankin. She operated that store for a great many years. The building was originally constructed for residential purposes. It was a two-story building with four walls and a V-shaped roof. That building was... Subsequently moved across the alley from the west end of the Hampton building on West 6th Street. The building has since been destroyed. South of the Rankin Building was, according to my earliest recollection, a sort of a rooming house. They call it the O'Brien Hotel. I don't think that they ever served meals there. I think they just had rooms. 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Harris Recordings 1954\n\nCitation: \"Judge Lawrence T. Harris interview by William Tugman, Editor of the Register Guard, presenting a description of Eugene and its residents as known to Judge Harris during his boyhood, February 1954.\" UA 180, University Archives sound recordings collection. Box 1, Item 175B-M. University of Oregon Special Collections and University Archives, Eugene, OR. \n\nReel 1\n\nHarris: [0:00] I was born in Albany, Oregon, on September 13, 1873. My parents moved to Eugene in 1878, and lived here for about two years, when they returned to Albany. Subsequently, and in April of 1884, my parents returned to Eugene.*\n\n* See, “Brief Mention,” Twice-a-Week Guard, Saturday, April 19, 1884, p.5: “Dr T W Shelton has sold his residence to Dr T W Harris of Albany, who will soon move to this city to practice his profession, Dr Shelton retiring.\"\n\nMy father bought out the business of Dr. [T. W.] Shelton and my father purchased the home that had been occupied by Shelton and his family [1:00] previously. The location of the home was at the northwest corner of West Fifth and Charnelton Streets, a corner that's now occupied by Tillman and Cole.\n\nDr. Shelton was a physician and surgeon, and as I say, he sold out to my father. Dr. Shelton constructed a large resi … residence at the point that is now commonly known as the McMurphy Place. I do not remember the exact year when that was constructed, but it was sometime after 1884. It runs in my mind that was probably in 1885, [2:00] 1886, close to that time. W. H. Abrams was the contractor who built the house. After the original … the first residence was completed, and almost ready for occupancy, the house burned down. The fire occurred at night. Nobody was in the place, and there was nothing in the way of household goods and effects that had been moved in at that time. The house was set fire. The man who set the fire had a grudge against Abrams, and he set the fire to … do damage to Abrams. The house was [3:00] … was rebuilt by Abrams for Dr. Shelton. And the rebuilt residence is the building that is now known as the McMurphy place.\n\nDr. Shelton, his wife, had one child, Alberta McMurphy. She married Robert … I said Alberta McMurphy, Alberta Shelton. She married Robert McMurphy, and Robert McMurphy and his wife resided in that house until the death of Robert McMurphy and his surviving widow, Alberta, continued to live in the house until her death. [4:00] My earliest recollection …\n\nTugman: Did they ever find the man that burned down the house in the first place?\n\nHarris: It was not known who burned the house until the man who did the burning was on his deathbed And he confessed to having burned the house. I shall not give his name because nothing is gained by it. He was connected with a splendid family. At any rate, it was definitely determined from this deathbed confession that it was he who did it. He explained why and told the circumstances.\n\n[5:00] My earliest recollection of Eugene, of course, goes back to 1878, but I don't remember but very little about Eugene at that time, because I was only five years old then. However, beginning with about 1884 when my family returned to Eugene to live, I have a fairly good recollection of what Eugene was like in 1884 and subsequent years. My earliest recollection, basing my recollection on … as of 1884, and subsequent years.\n\nThe depot, Southern Pacific depot, [6:00] was a wooden building. The main line was located exactly where it is now. North of the depot and on the north side of the main line was a warehouse. That warehouse was known as the Dunn Warehouse. F. B. Dunn had a merchant … had a store in Eugene where he sold general merchandise and upon was passing his son, Frank Dunn, succeeded him. At any rate, there was this warehouse. My recollection is that the sidetrack or spur that accommodated that warehouse [7:00]connected with a main line at a point not far from ... from what is now known as Pearl Street. That may be an error after that. At any rate, my recollection is that that sidetrack did not join the main line at two places.\n\nOn the south side of the main line, there was a side track that took off at a point not far from Charnelton Street, if Charnelton Street were projected across the main line. And that track ran east towards what is now known as Willamette Street, and it was on the north side of a warehouse that was owned by S. H. Friendly, [8:00] and that warehouse was known as the Friendly Warehouse. That sidetrack accommodated another warehouse that was west of the Friendly Warehouse.\n\nIn addition to these two sidetracks, there was a turntable, and that turntable was on the north side of the main track. And if Charnelton Street had been projected clear through to and over Skinner's Butte, it would have gone through that side … or that turntable.\n\nIn those days, there was a local passenger train that left Portland in the morning and arrived in Eugene in the afternoon and then returned to Portland in the morning, next morning, [9:00] and arrived in Portland that late afternoon. And that turntable originally was constructed for the purpose of accommodating the engine that used … was used for the purpose of pulling that local passenger train.\n\nLater on, that local train was extended to Roseburg and I don't remember when that change was made, but at any rate, there was a local daily train from Portland to Roseburg and return, until the Natron (?) cut -off was completed. 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And Andrews built sort of an office building on the north edge, be the northwest corner of the property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"W. B. Andrews was in the Battle of Bull Run. He was with Union troops. When Andrews came to Eugene, he lived in a house across the street from where my folks lived on Fifth Street and later on, he built a house out of town … was then the edge of the city of Eugene and on West Fifth Street.\n\nComing now on south to the intersection of Willamette and Fifth Street, and still looking south, on the left hand side … and on the east side of Willamette Street, the whole","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=720.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"west half of that block was known as the J .B. Underwood property. And about the center of that west half of the block was a large residential building that had been constructed by J .B. Underwood. The Underwood home was an attractive place, and in the university days … or rather beginning with the university days, and continuing for good many years, there were always four or five or half a dozen students who are roomed at the Underwood home.\n\nOver on the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"west side of Willamette Street in between Fifth and Sixth, my earliest recollection is that nothing stood at the north … or the southwest corner of the intersection of the Fifth and Willamette.\n\nIn about 1890, a building was constructed at that corner. And immediately west of that building was about that time, constructed in another building, a livery stable, faced on West Fifth. Between this building that was constructed on the corner and the alley south was no building at all except a hotel. Now this building on the corner was occupied by J. W. White, who was the father of Major White, and the building was occupied by Mr. Pies (?)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=840.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a grocery store for a long time. Previously, J. W. Wyatt had a grocery store down next to D. N. Henderson, who had a place of business on Seventh Street, facing Willamette. Of course, speaking about this hotel, it was operated by a man named Johnston for a long time. And then later on, and for quite a long time, a man named Gailard operated the hotel.\n\nI should go back to the Johnson place and explain the A. J. Johnson place. Now A .J. Johnson and the Johnson who ran the are two different people. A. J. Johnson was a partner of J. H. McClung in the general merchandise business, and their store was where the Tiffany building is now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=900.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After they dissolved their partnership and discontinued business, A. J. Johnson sold that corner to George Gross. And this, as I recollect, was in about 1890. George Gross built a hotel at the northwest corner of the intersection of West Fifth and Willamette Street, and that hotel was for a great many years known as the Gross Hotel. Later on, Gross sold the hotel to a man named M. F. Griggs, who came to Oregon from Kentucky. And Griggs changed the name to Griggs Hotel. The hotel is now known as the Lane Hotel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=960.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A .J. Johnson, after dissolution of the partnership with Mr. McClung, was sheriff of Lane County over a period of … my recollection … is a couple of terms.\n\nNow then return to the area that's immediately across the alley and it's immediately south from the old Johnson Hotel, later on known as the Gaylord Hotel. The area that's now occupied by the old post office is the area that was owned by W .M. Renshaw. Renshaw owned all the land between the alley and Sixth Street.\n\nAnd when the government wanted to build … what we now know as the old post office, the government acquired the W. M. Renshaw property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1020.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The new and present post office occupies the area that was formerly the site of the Johnson Hotel and J. W. White grocery store.\n\nProceeding now from West Sixth Street, er, not West Sixth Street, but Sixth Street. Standing on the corner of West Sixth Street and Willamette Street, at the southwest corner of that intersection, was the site of the Charles Lauer home. Charles Lauer owned the entire quarter block. His home was a large and impressive residence.\n\nAt the time of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1080.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"construction of the Hampton Hotel on about 1903 – 04 - 05, the Charles Lauer home was moved to the corner of the northwest corner of West Seventh and Charnelton Street, and it still stands there.\n\nOn the south side of the Charles Lauer home and between the alley and Seventh Street, my earliest recollection is that the … at the south, no, the north west corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Seventh Street was the Day and Henderson furniture place of business and hen the area between that building in the alley north was vacant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1140.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Later on, a large wooden building was constructed upon that very … that vacant area and was used as a roller skating rink. It burned down in due course of time.\n\nThe first brick building that was constructed after theone that stood at the immediate corner was a building that was used by Ed Frazier, E. J. Frazier. My recollection is that Bob Day owned that property, and he constructed that building. And then later on, the Halley (?) Theater property … the Halley Theater … what's now known as the Halley Theater, was constructed.\n\nGoing back to Sixth Street, and looking at the east side of the Willamette Street, and the quarter block that was the southeast corner of the intersection of East Sixth","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1200.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Willamette Street, there stood a house in about the center of that quarter block for a good many years. It was a … the place of residence of various people.\n\nIn the quarter block that was immediately south of that one and being the northeast corner of the intersection of East Seventh and Willamette Streets, right next to the alley was the residence of Bettman. Bettman was a merchant who's store was on Willamette Street. The house, the front of the house, was fairly close to the street, and the north edge of the house was fairly close to the alley.\n\nThe building, which for a long time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1260.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was used by the Morning Register, stood on the … stands on the site of the old Bettman place. The Bettman residential property included all of the area between the alley and the street immediately south, which was East Seventh Street, except the corner portion which was used by Jerry Reem. It was a building in which he carried on a … a furniture business.\n\nAnd across the street was Day and Henderson's place of business. They were in the\n\nfurniture business and Bob Day was also an undertaker. My recollection is that Jerry","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1320.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Reem also was an undertaker. Coming out to the intersection of …\n\nTugman: And may I interrupt a minute, Judge? Sixth Street at that time was more or less a slough, I believe you said.\n\nHarris: Oh yes, at that time, at that time, it was impossible in the wintertime to drive, even if you attempted to drive, from Willamette Street to what is now known as Olive Street. There was no sidewalk on the West Sixth Street on the north side, no, on the south side, but there was a sidewalk on the north side and it stood up on stilts.\n\nThe surface of Willamette Street had been raised by filling in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1380.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and there was not even an attempt to make a roadway from Willamette Street to Olive Street. I do not remember what year it was, I mean, that was filled in … the … what is now, Sixth Street between Willamette and Olive was filled in, but it was several years, I'm quite sure, after 1884.\n\nI remember one incident in connection with that block between Olive and Willamette Streets and on Sixth. I'm not sure whether it was Christmas Eve or whether it was the night before Christmas Eve. John Church lived","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1440.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on … on Lincoln Street between Fifth and Sixth. Robinson and Church had a hardware store on Willamette Street, and John Church was carrying home some Christmas presents. At that time, they had a couple of boys. Later on, the family was increased, another boy and a little girl. And the railing didn't extend along that sidewalk, it was on the north side of West Sixth Street. It was night time, and John Church stepped off. The result was that the Christmas presents and John Church all got muddied and wet.\n\nNow, standing at the intersection of Seventh and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1500.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Willamette Street, as we look south, at the southwest corner of the intersection of West Seventh and Willamette Street, was the millinery store, Kerry Rankin. She operated that store for a great many years. The building was originally constructed for residential purposes. It was a two-story building with four walls and a V-shaped roof. That … that building was subsequently moved across the alley from the west end of the Hampton building on West Sixth Street. The building has since been destroyed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1560.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"South of the Rankin building was, according to my earliest recollection, a … sort of a rooming house. They call it the O 'Brien Hotel. I don't think that they ever served meals there, I think they just had rooms. And then in the property that's now owned by Young, in later years, was the Walker Young meat shop. And immediately …\n\nReel 2\n\nTugman: [0:00] Today, Judge Harris has been reconstructing the town as he knew it as a boy, the area … the homes and businesses on Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth in what was then the city, and beginning at Sixth and High and working west. Let's hear the judge tell the story.\n\nHarris: The northwest corner of the intersection of High and East Sixth, was the home of George Fisher, who was a partner of Cy Watkins, under the firm name of Fisher and Watkins. They owned and operated the butcher shop on Willamette Street, [1:00] on the east side of Willamette Street, between Eighth and Seventh.\n\nIn the northeast corner of the intersection of Sixth and Pearl, was the residence property of David Cherry, who was a longtime resident of Eugene. My recollection is that he owned the property on the west end of that block all the way from Sixth Street to Fifth Street.\n\nOver on the southwest corner of the intersection of High and East Sixth was the home of Mr. Edris, E -D -R -I -S. Edris and Joe … Joseph Gray [2:00] and others were the owners of the old Grist Mill.\n\nProceeding on west on that street, a church building occupied the southeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Sixth.\n\nCrossing the … crossing into the next block west at the northeast corner of the intersection of East Sixth and Pearl, was the residence of a Mr. O'Dell. His daughter subsequently became the owner of the property [3:00] and was the wife of Charles Hale.\n\nThe house in the early days that was west of that house and at the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak and West Sixth was C. W. Fitch home. Fitch was a lawyer. He passed on, left surviving him a widow and two daughters. And the Fitch widow and daughters lived in that home for a long time. The property was subsequently acquired by Ed Hansen, who constructed a new home and occupied it for a long time. At the … \n\nBoth: Inaudible.\n\nHarris: [4:00] Across the street from the Fitch and subsequently, the Hansen home, was the home of Lester Beckwith, L. G. Beckwith, who conducted a grocery store at the corner of Seventh and Willamette Streets for a long period of time.\n\nAt the northwest corner of Oak and West Sixth. East Sixth, was a residential building occupied by … according to my recollection … a man of the name of Mario, who … after whom Mario's Park was named. And west of the Mario property, all of the area that was part of the west half of that block was owned [5:00] by Ben Underwood who owned the west half of that block and had a large residential building on it. At the southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and East Sixth, was the home of Mr. Henderson who was a partner of Robert Day … Day and Henderson furniture dealers …\n\nTugman: … and undertakers in those days too …\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: The undertaker was always the furniture man.\n\nHarris: I just … I think it just happened that way. At any rate, Jerry Reem was a furniture man and he was an undertaker also but most of the undertaking business done by R. M. Day. I'm speaking about the business of the firm of Day and Henderson. While Mr. Henderson [6:00] would act as undertaker, if Bob Day was not available, nevertheless most of that service was rendered by Bob Day.\n\nTugman: Was that because they built their own coffins in those days?\n\nHarris: I don't know about that. But my recollection is that in those days, they did build coffins. But I don't know whether Dan Henderson, for example, built all of their coffins or not.\n\nIn addition to owning that furniture business, they owned a little mill down on the Tayer race, north of the Grist Mill, and quite likely, if they made any coffins, they built them in that mill.\n\nNow we pass on to Willamette … the west side of Willamette Street. [7:00] The northwest corner of Willamette and East Sixth was vacant land, a part of it, probably, that was owned by W. M. Renshaw. W. M. Renshaw owned and conducted a saloon on Willamette Street, and was in every respect a fine citizen.\n\nOver on the southwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Fifth was the residence of Charles Lauer. Mr. Lauer owned the whole quarter block, and his … his home … building is still in existence. It was moved [8:00] when the Hampton … in preparation for the construction of the Hampton building, the Lauer residence was moved to what is now the northwest corner of the intersection of Charnelton and the West Seventh street.\n\nIn the early days, there was no other building on the block between on the … on the south side of the block of the street between the … of the block rather … between Olive and Willamette except a residence occupied by a man in the name of Atterbury who was City Marshal for many years. And my earliest recollection about what is now West Sixth Street, between Olive and Willamette, was nothing but a frog pond … wasn’t used as a street.\n\nThe slough, of which I have spoken previously, passed along [9:00] that area. And then it entered the block west of the Atterbury home, and went in a triangular course of passing over that portion of what is now the Meadowland Creamery … it’s next to the alley.\n\nTugman: Now you mentioned a big willow tree on the Atterbury Place which had some associations with your boyhood.\n\nHarris: The willow tree was a tree that was planted by many pioneers. I do not know why, but I do know that many of the pioneer homes had a … one or more willow trees.\n\nTugman: Weeping willow.\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=1620.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, now, that reminds me that something we omitted the other day in going through these streets today we see these beautiful huge maples. I think you told me that in the early days, as soon as the street was settled, the people just planted it, never … they didn't have to be told.\n\nHarris: It was the accepted custom, if one purchased a lot for the purpose of constructing a house on it … a residence … if there were not maple trees planted out in front of the house, one of the first things that he did would be to plant those trees … maple trees. I remember just as distinctly as though it were yesterday that when Cy Watkins had purchased what …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4200.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a part of what used to be the baseball ground immediately east of my parents' property on Charnelton Street … the Watkins property facing on West Fifth … even before he started to build his house, he put in some maple trees, and those maple trees, some of them are there yet, but most of them have been destroyed … cut out.\n\nAnd I remember that in the early days, one could go up on Skinner's Butte in the summertime and look down over the town, and a very considerable portion of the town would be cons … would be covered by the limbs of the maple trees and houses and buildings … would be very largely obscured.\n\nTugman: Well now I believe we left","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4260.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you at Sixth and Olive. I think the story you started there on the northwest corner with the Hobson home.\n\nHarris: The northwest corner was occupied by a man of the name of Hobson, who was one of the founders of the Eugene Register. I don't remember the year, but it was when I was a boy. I also recollect distinctly that it … on the … the west side of Olive Street was a side wall, and I had a bicycle, a high-wheeled bicycle, before the days of what's now known as the safety.\n\nIt's interesting to recall that when they built … first built the bicycle","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4320.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the present generation knows about, it was called the … a safety bicycle, for the purpose of distinguishing it from a high wheel bicycle, a wheel bicycle having a front wheel or a high wheel, and the back wheel or a low wheel. If you rode, for example, one of those bicycles … high-wheeled bicycles in our dusty road … if the dust was at all thick, you'd be dependent on it. Sooner or later you'd get a header, because the front wheel just wouldn't take care of it. And if you didn't look out, you'd take a header most anytime. The ground or the walk wasn’t level as the case might be. … well, whenever I came to that hill, I'd have to take a run for it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4380.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to get up … to get up the hill. There isn't any hill observable there now. The presence of the hill was due to the fact that it was practically the bank of the old slough.\n\nTugman: Did you ever take any headers there, judge?\n\nHarris: I never took a header on that place, but I took plenty of headers on my bicycle.\n\nProceeding on the north side of West Sixth, the next house was the home of Presley Comegys. Comegys was a pioneer of my recollection, yes, that he served on the first jury that was ever empaneled by any court in Lane County. He owned a farm over an area what we used to know as the high banks on the McKenzie River, and his residence stood on the northeast corner of the intersection of Charnelton and West Fifth.\n\nTugman: Now that was spelt, C-O-M-E-G-Y-S.\n\nHarris:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4440.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's right.\n\nAcross the street from the Comegys' home and on the southeast corner of the intersection of Charnelton and West Sixth, was the home of Phil North. Going across … proceeding out on the west … at the northeast corner of the intersection of West Sixth and Charnelton Street, was the home of a man with the name of McCormick. McCormick, Mr. McCormick served as Deputy County Clerk under Joel Ware for many years. And then, proceeding on the west, on that side of the street, was the home of Monroe Shelley, J. M. Shelley. It was not a home that was as early as the McCormick home or as early as the Stilwell home. The Stilwell home","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4500.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was located at the northeast corner of the intersection.\n\nReel 3\n\nHarris: The Alfred Stowell home was located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West Sixth. Going back now to Charnelton and West Sixth. The southwest corner was a residence building occupied by a G. R. Crissman, who afterward became County Judge for Lane County, and who afterwards acquired one of the whole properties which is located there on Tenth Street, West Tenth Street.\n\nImmediately west of that property was [1:00] a residence which was for a good many years occupied by Sherwood Burr and then down towards the corner of Lincoln and West Fifth … the southeast corner of Lincoln and West Fifth, or Sixth, West Sixth, was the old Packard home. John F. Kelly acquired that property and moved the original Packard residence easterly … some distance east, and John Kelly constructed the present Kelly home. Proceeding on to the next block west …\n\nTugman: Just a minute, Judge, now John Kelly, John Kelly was one of the original partners with Robert Booth in Booth Kelly. Is that correct?\n\nHarris: He was one of the men in the Booth Kelly [2:00] original organization.\n\nTugman: And then there was a little instance, you were telling me, back there in connection with the Alfred Stowell home where I believe some of your children got in and saw a business deal being transacted with gold.\n\nHarris: Al Stowell had a son, and the son and I, as youngsters, played together. I could not have been more than eight or nine years old. At any rate, a business transaction that was going on in the house. And this Stowell boy and I full of curiosity, went in to see what's going on. And I remember very distinctly seeing a pile of $20 gold pieces on the floor next to H. C. Humphrey, who was one of the bankers in Eugene at that time.\n\n\nTugman: [3:00] In other words, the transactions of that period were … all of them were largely for cash and usually in gold. They didn't use bills …\n\nHarris: Well, I don't know it was largely by cash, but I know that even up to 1894 when I went back to Ann Arbor, paper money was called greenbacks. Nobody won't paper money. And we didn't have such a thing as pennies. We didn't use pennies. All the money that was used there was coin, gold pieces, silver pieces, $5, $10, $20 denomination in gold.\n\nAnd when I got back to Ann Arbor, [4:00] I found that they used paper and pennies, and didn't know anything about gold. When I went back to Ann Arbor, I didn't have much money, but what little I did have, I had it in gold and silver. And after I'd been there a few days, I went down to the store to buy something, and I handed the man a $10 gold piece. He looked at me, and then he looked at the gold piece, and he looked at me again, and then he looked at the gold piece again. Finally, he went back to the rear of the store, and at first, it didn't dawn on me what was troubling him. But he stayed back there, and I noticed a fellow go by me. He turned to the right and went down to the bank, which was located in the corner of the same block. Soon he came … this man came back and went back to the store, the rear end of the store, and the clerk [5:00] with whom I was doing the business, then came forward to where I was, not until then did he come and gave me the change. I inferred that what happened was, if the clerk didn't know whether that $10 gold piece is any good, so he went back to see the boss or somebody else, and they sent a man down to the bank with that $10 gold piece to see whether it was any good. They satisfied themselves, it was all right, and then completed the transaction.\n\nTugman: Well, now, in that early period you also had many transactions around here in gold dust, too, didn't you?\n\nHarris: I don't know part- … of any transaction with gold dust, personally. I don't have any personal knowledge of any gold dust transaction, but especially in the southern Oregon area, I'm quite sure as gold dust transactions were … were common.\n\nTugman: Well now let's, let's get on with the … I think we … I interrupted you [6:00] where you're … you were telling about Mr. Crissman's place. Oh, and the John Kelly place … we'd finished that. Now at Sixth and Lincoln, I think you begin with the home of John Church. The Smeed Wallace home.\n\nHarris: Yes, not the Smeed Wallace home. This is the old man Wallace home. The father of Smeed S-M-E-E-D and M. S. Wallace. The Wallace home, occupied by the Wallace property, was the entire south half of that block, which faced on West Sixth and was between Lincoln and Lawrence, and the John Church home was on the north half of that block, all of which was owned by John Church.\n\nOver on the south side of that block, between Lincoln and Lawrence, at the [7:00] southwest corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West Fifth, was the home of J. M. Thompson, John M. Thompson, who was the father of Herbert Thompson. Mr. Thompson was a lawyer. He died when I was a youngster, and his widow and son and daughters resided in the home property for a good many years. Proceeding on west on that , at the southeast corner of the intersection of Lawrence and West Sixth, was the home of Charles Horn. Horn … when I was a boy … owned a gun store, [8:00] the same room that's occupied by Hendershots, and later on after my first knowledge of Charles Horn, he formed a partnership with Barney Paine and the business under the firm name of Horn and Paine was conducted for many years. That room … it’s now occupied by Hendershots … has been used continuously and without any interruption, from the time that Charles Horn established the gun store in it.\n\nThen, proceeding on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Florence and West Sixth, [9:00] was the property of Mr. Conser. Conser owned a business property down on Willamette Street. He constructed the building that was known as the Conser block. And west of the Concer property, and in the same block, was the home of Mr. Kearns. My recollection is his initial address is … I may be mistaken in that respect. But at any rate, he was the father of Maude Kearns and Mrs. Frank Hill Chambers.\n\nAcross the street from the Conser property and at the southwest corner of the intersection of Lawrence and West Sixth, was the home of a man of the name of Mulkie who owned a large farm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=4560.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"northwest of Eugene …\n\nTugman: … and from that point on out it was farming country.\n\nHarris: I don't remember the exact point where the east line of farming property was, but it was not far from this Mulkie property, possibly a couple of blocks west of it. And the area … I remember the time when the area that was between what is now known as Blair Street on the west, and what is known now as Fifth Street on the north and Eighth street on the south, and up to a point that I'm not sure about as the east line was nothing but farming property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=7800.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] They raised grain in it.\n\nTugman: And as … as I think you said, I think Fifth Street went through, and Eighth Street went through …\n\nHarris: … to what we now know of Blair Street.\n\nTugman: But between those two roads, it was finefarming\n\nHarris: There was no street that contacted … that intersected Blair Street between Fifth and Eighth when I was a youngster. And I remember that distinctly because I would walk from my father's racetrack out on Eighth Street to his home, to our home on Fifth Street, and … I’d make a short cut of it, if there was no growing grain.\n\nTugman: Well, now, coming … coming back on Seventh Avenue, we began, I believe, at Seventh and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=7860.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"… Seventh and Washington, coming … coming west, coming east, with the home of James Robinson.\n\nHarris: J. F. Robinson was a partner of John Church, and they operated a hardware store on Willamette Street. The site of their store is the south half of what is now known as the United States National Bank. James Robinson … he was J .F. Robinson … he was generally known as Jimmy Robinson or Jim Robinson, was for many years clerk or secretary of the Masonic Lodge. … On the next block ...\n\nTugman: Lee Travis.\n\nHarris: Right. Lee … L. M. Travis, a lawyer, occupied … or rather built a home, and then afterwards lived in it to the remainder of his life on the southeast corner of the intersection of … let’s see … West Sixth and Lawrence Street, I guess. I’m not sure about that street.\n\nTugman: Well, then, the next house you talked about was the Burton home.\n\nHarris: A .G. Hovay owned the north half of the block between Lincoln and Lawrence streets. His residence, occupied … or rather, was located","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=7920.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at a point on approximately the west end of the east half of that area. A. G. Hovay had two sons, Guy and Blaine, and a daughter, Kerry. Kerry married C. A. Burton, who for a long time was a director of athletics at the university, and afterwards he formed a partnership with David Graham, and they conducted a shoe store in Eugene for a long period. The Burtons built their home at the northwest corner of that property which was owned by","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=8040.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hovay.\n\nTugman: The old Hovey home, I believe still stands there …\n\nHarris: … still stands there.\n\nTugman: And then I think the next place as you mentioned were Barney Paine, Barney Paine and H .C. Humphrey.\n\nHarris: H .C. Humphrey was a partner of Hovey in the banking business. Humphrey was generally known as Clay Humphrey. The Clay Humphrey home stood at the northwest corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West Sixth, and immediately west of the Humphrey home, and on that side of the, on the north side of West Sixth Street, was the home of B. D. Paine, Barney Paine, who was a partner of Charles Horn. B .D. Paine was a brother of Dr. D .A. Paine.\n\nReel 4\n\nHarris: [0:00] On the south side of West Sixth Street, between Charnelton and Lincoln, and at the southeast corner of West Sixth and Lincoln was of the McCormicks. The McCormicks were pioneers in this area. East in the same block and on the south side of the street is where Mrs.\n\nHanchett lived.\n\nOver on the north side of West Sixth between Lincoln and Charnelton streets, was the home of L. Bilyeu. His residence still stands there. He was generally known as Lark Bilyeu. He was a lawyer and lived in Eugene for many years. [1:00] His son is still living and occupies the old residence.\n\nAt the northeast corner of the intersection of West Seventh and Charnelton Street, is the Charles Lauer residence … residence … no residential building, period. This building was originally constructed on the site now occupied by the Hampton Building at the southwest corner of Willamette and West Sixth streets.\n\nTugman: Now, how are we taking from Seventh and Charnelton, the first Congregational Church?\n\nHarris: At the northwest, well, the southeast corner of [2:00] the intersection of West Seventh and Charnelton streets was the Congregational Church, and at the … the southwest corner of the intersection of Olive and West Seventh was the Episcopal Church.\n\nAt a point not far from the northeast corner of the intersection of Charnelton and West Seventh, was the Barnett home, occupied by the father of … Maryanne Barnett and the original Charles Barnett and Marsalis Barnett.\n\n[3:00] And at the north-west corner of the intersection of West Seventh and Olive Streets was the R. M. Day residence, a building which … in which he lived as the residence is now existing and stands at the southwest corner of the intersection of West Sixth and Charnelton streets.\n\nTugman: What did Day do?\n\nHarris: He was Henderson’s … a partner with Henderson, Henderson and Day Furniture and Undertaker. At the southeast corner of Seventh and Olive Streets was the home of the Cleaver family. There were two brothers, Elmer [4:00] and the other brother … his first name I forgotten, and there was a daughter. The Cleavers owned the entire quarter block.\n\nAt the southeast corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Seventh was the milliner's store of Kerry Rankin.\n\nAt the northeast corner of the intersection of Olive and West Seventh was the Wiedemann Brewery, and at the northwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Seventh was the Dan Henderson Furniture Store.\n\nTugman: Judge, could you tell us something about that early brewery and perhaps the man who ran it, Wiedemann?\n\nHarris: [5:00] There was another brewery in Eugene. The Wiedermann Brewery did not occupy a prominent place in the minds of the beer drinking public. The other brewery which was operated by a man by the name of Vogel, had most of the business. Later on, Weinhardt very purchased the Vogel Brewery, and it was on Ninth Street, next to the corner of Olive and Ninth. There's nothing about Wiedemann's, I think, that would be of any interest to you.\n\nTugman: We're now talking from Seventh and Willamette.\n\nHarris: At the south east corner of the intersection of Willamette [6:00] and East Seventh was the grocery store of L. G. Beckwith. He and his wife conducted the grocery store there for a great many years.\n\nAt the southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and East Seventh was a boarding house operated by a woman named Maddie Carter.\n\nAt the northeast corner of Willamette and East Seventh was the furniture business of Jerry Lee. The Withrow family lived in a home in about the middle of the east [7:00] half of that block.\n\nProceeding on east, at the southwest … no, at the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak and East Seventh was the home of L. G. Adair who for many years was station agent at Southern Pacific. He owned the entire quarter block where the Armory now stands. The rest\n\nof the block going east was in the main unoccupied.\n\nTugman: I think you said there was a squatter named Doyle who came in there.\n\nHarris: There was an old man named Doyle who lived in that little shack that he had built for himself in that quarter block and the rest of it was unoccupied.\n\nTugman: [8:00] The Seventh and Pearl Bill Watts.\n\nHarris: On Seventh and Pearl was where Joe Watts lived. Joe Watts was a jeweler who was\n\nin Eugene for a great many years …\n\nTugman: … and then we came to Seventh and High, there wasn’t anything …\n\nHarris: ... except that there is now standing on the south side of Seventh Street between High and Pearl, the building that used to stand on the south side of Ninth Street, immediately east of High Street, and it was one of the early buildings that was constructed in Eugene, and was originally the law office of a lawyer.\n\nTugman: [9:00] Now coming up, High Street can mention the A .J. Bab house.\n\nHarris: A .J. Bab home was at the corner of West Seventh … East Seventh and High.\n\nTugman: What did Mr. Bab do? He was the father, I believe, of Ray Bab.\n\nHarris: Yes. He was not engaged in any business in Eugene, but he had some farming properties in my recollection.\n\nTugman: Now we turn east over Eighth Street and there's a good many points of historic\n\ninterest here which the judge will tell us about. We turn east from the southeast corner beginning with the Dave Laken place.\n\nHarris:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=8100.0,11400.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the southeast corner of the intersection of High and Eighth is where David Laken lived.\n\nAt the northeast corner of that intersection is where Charles Wetter, who was for many years night watchmen for Eugene, lived. And Charlie Wetter afterwards conducted the saloon right next to the Hobie building on Willamette Street.\n\nGoing across the street and coming west on Eighth at the northwest corner of the intersection of High and Eighth was the residence of Mr. Patterson, who was the father of Percy Patterson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=11400.0,11460.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Patterson was for a long time county treasurer of Lane County, and proceeding on west in that same block at the northeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Eighth was the location of the first Baptist Church of Eugene. The original building was a small building and afterwards it was replaced by a good-sized building that was constructed practically flush with the boundary lines at that corner. Then later on, the present Baptist Church building was constructed. The present church","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=11460.0,11520.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"building being located on the old Professor Mark Bailey property on Ninth Street.\n\nOn the southwest corner of the intersection of High and East Eighth was the home property of S. P. Akin, Stuart Akin, the attorney … we generally called him Stuart Akin. He and T. G. Hendricks founded the First National Bank in Eugene in 1883. Akin owned the entire quarter block.\n\nThen proceeding on west there was a building or two at the corner, but I do not remember the name of any","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=11520.0,11580.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family who lived in either one of the buildings. The … at the northwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Eighth, where the Lofren (?) Hotel is located, was orig … originally, a two-story wooden building, owned by a man with the name of Pinky Henderson. He occupied the lower floor as headquarters … I mean, as a … as a home. And the second floor was used for school purposes. The first school that I ever attended was, and in that building, Mrs. Stowell was the teacher. I do not recall how old I was, but I … my present recollection is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=11580.0,11640.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I was about six or seven.\n\nAnd I remember one incident about one of the boys had broken some rule. Mrs. Stowell wanted to chastise him, so she asked me to go down and get a switch and bring it up to her. And I went down and got a stick of stove wood, with the result that she was tempted to give me a switching.\n\nAcross the street, and on the south side of it, was a blacksmith shop. And my recollection is that there was another blacksmith shop south of that one. Warren Lucky owned and operated one of those two blacksmith shops.\n\nThe old courthouse, which occupied the site of the present courthouse the intersection","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=11640.0,11700.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Oak and  East Eighth, was a wooden building, and it stood on the same site that's now occupied by the present courthouse. The original courthouse was built in 1855, and when they made preparations for constructing the new courthouse, the work having been commenced in 1898, the old courthouse was moved across Park Street and was located between Eighth … or between Seventh and Eighth … and Park Street northeast.\n\nReel 5\n\nTugman: [0:00] Well, now, Judge, while we think of it, I'd like you to talk a little bit about that old white frame sort of Southern colonial type courthouse, which was the courthouse when you were a boy and the courthouse that preceded the present building. As I have heard the story in 1897 or 8 when they started to build the present courthouse, they first moved it down facing Seventh and used it until the new courthouse was finished after which Dr. Waller once told me it became … it was used for some years for the first Eugene high school and then after that it became the Yates Hotel. Now, can you tell us something of that lore?\n\nHarris: Well, the man in the name of Jim Yates, used the building [1:00] for quite a while as a rooming place where he could buy … get rooms. He didn't serve meals, is my recollection. I don't recall how long the building stood there before it was moved down to the mill race. Frank Chambers purchased the building and moved it down Seventh Street right next to the mill race and it was stood … and it stood there for a long time, and was used as a rooming house and was finally destroyed.\n\nThe new courthouse was dedicated on May 1, 1899. But my recollection is that it was occupied for a little while before May 1, 1899.\n\nTugman: [2:00] Well, now, the park blocks and the jail in those days were pretty much as they are now is that correct?\n\nHarris: The blocks themselves are … it might be of interest to you to tell you a story about Park Street. The street … this … the streets that surround the four parks, where when the plat was originally made 100 feet in width. In other words, the street that you know as North Park Street was 100 feet wide, the street that you know as South Park Street was 100 feet wide, and so too the East and West streets.\n\nIn the early days, the only means of producing heat [3:00] was wood. And every merchant had a woodshed in which he kept his wood for winter use. And the different stores had … for instance, the stores that faced Willamette Street and on … and were on the east side of Willamette Street … the east end of those stores … at the east end of those stores were woodsheds, closed woodsheds, and sometimes they'd be used for storage purposes.\n\nAfter … shortly after I came back from law school, and after I had been appointed deputy prosecutin attorney, they commenced to discuss the question of constructing a new courthouse. [4:00] And among other things, the county court was interested in knowing what they could do with the reference to the 34 feet that was occupied by these different merchants. The 34 feet on Park Street. So I went down to the library at Salem and I put in two solid weeks, investigating the problem from a legal standpoint. And I came back to Eugene. George M. Brown was a prosecuting attorney. However, George Brown did not become a prosecuting attorney until July 1, 1898. He was elected in the June election of 1898.\n\nAt any rate, the county court concluded what the best thing to do would be [5:00]  to litigate the question, get a judicial decision as to what the rights of the county were in those 34 feet, because that area had been used by these merchants for a long time. As a result of the litigation, it was decided that the county owned that property, and they had the right … the county had the right to sell it. So, the property was sold to the owners of the properties upon which … which had joined these … these hundred-foot strips … had joined them on the outside.\n\nNow, for example, here on Willamette Street, between the alley … between Seventh and Eighth, and the alley between Eighth and Ninth, all of the store buildings that were between Park Street and Willamette Street were given the right to purchase this property, and they all purchased it,  [6:00] and there were … just never any controversy about it at all. Every property owner who owned land next to Park Street purchased this 34 feet and that was the end of it.\n\nTugman: And that helped to finance the courthouse.\n\nHarris: Yes, it helped them … it helped them to get money. There was a … some discussion as to whether or not the courthouse should be located at the intersection of Oak and Eighth, but it was decided, finally, not to construct it there and to construct it on the site of the old courthouse.\n\nTugman: I think it's interesting in the history of Lane County, it relates that … I think it was 1855 when that old white building, later known as the Yates Hotel … when that was built, it was built in the middle of the intersection of Eighth and Willamette. [7:00]About 10 years later, they had to move it because it was creating traffic jams. Judge, I wonder, when you were a boy, court didn't meet every day. But could you give us a little description of what that square there looked like when you were having an important court session?\n\nHarris: Well, I don't know much about what happened in the court … courtroom prior to 1896. I remember being up in the circuit courtroom when Judge Robert S. Bean was Circuit Judge prior to the time I came back from law school. And I remember being in the circuit courtroom one or two times in addition to that, prior to 1896, but I can't give you any [8:00] dependable information with reference to the doings in the circuit court room at all.\n\nTugman: Well, what I had in mind, Judge, was the appearance outside the courthouse, where the farmers and people would come in with their horses and wagons and tie up around the block. That was the picture.\n\nHarris: Well, as a matter of fact, Judge Potter … soon after Judge Potter was elected county judge, I remember they put in some new hitching racks all the way, clear around, clear around these four parts.\n\nTugman: Did they have watering troughs there for horses too?\n\nHarris: I don't remember of any watering trough. While there was a trough at the pump that was in front of the courthouse … that would be in south of the courthouse, and between the south end of the courthouse and the sidewalk. Nevertheless, I don't recall of any of … that trough being used for horses at all. And I don't remember of any trough [9:00] that was used for watering horses except the trough that was down in front of the Wilkins Drug Store on Willamette Street. There was a pump, and at that pump was a trough, and it was made for the purpose of enabling people to water their horses there.\n\nTugman: There was a pump at the courthouse, too.\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: But no trough there.\n\nHarris: No, but that pump was primarily for the purpose of enabling people having business in the courthouse and the occupants of the courthouse to get drinking water. That was before we had that water system. I don't remember the exact year when the water system was put in, but it was after 1884, and my recollection it was long about 1885-86.\n\nTugman: Now let's take it from Eighth … from beyond … from beyond the courthouse blocks on west.\n\nHarris: At the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=11700.0,15000.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"northeast corner of the intersection of Willamette and East Eighth was the merchandise store of John H. McClung and A. J. Johnson ,known as McClung and Johnson. Immediately west of that store was the drugstore of F. M. Wilkins, and it was in front of that drugstore where this pump and trough were. Going across the street and on the south side of Eighth and north of the southeast corner of Willamette and East Eighth was the store of A .B. Peters. He had a merchandise establishment … dry goods. And by the way, the residence … the home building of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=15000.0,15060.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A. B. Peters is … was moved … I'll tell you about that later … but it was moved … is now occupied by Judge C. H. Wintermeier over in the southwest part of the town.  Going across Willamette Street … I think … yeah … going across Willamette Street at the northwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and East … West Eighth was the bank of Hovey and Humphrey. And at one time, in the earlier days, according to my recollection, the Crain Brothers, C-R-A-I-N, had a … a jewelry store. Immediately west of the Hovey and Humphrey bank is where the old","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=15060.0,15120.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Masonic building was. Across the alley from that was J. H. Clem’s harness shop, and then down on the northeast corner of the intersection of Olive and West Eighth was a blacksmith shop of John Sloan, and immediately east of and adjoining his blacksmith shop, was his livery stable.\n\nAt the southwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Eighth was the building of J. D. Matlock. Matlock had a dry goods store, and then later on he leased it to the Hanson boys, there was Frank Hanson and Ed Hanson.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=15120.0,15180.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was mayor of Eugene for some time, wasn't he?\n\nHarris: Yes, he was. J. D. Matlock was mayor of Eugene … I'm not sure, whether more than one term, or not. At any rate, he was a prominent citizen in Eugene.\n\nJohn Stuart had a livery stable on the south side of Eighth Street between Olive and Willamette, and next to the alley where the Lane Theatre is.\n\nAt the corner … the southeast corner of the intersection of Olive and West Eighth was a Chinese laundry and all the space that was between that Chinese laundry and the alley on the east was occupied by John Stuart livery stable and by John Stuart for purposes connected with the livery stable.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=15180.0,15240.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Going on west … just a minute, Judge. I think it would be interesting if you told us about … there was this livery stable, then there was this lot or yard between the livery stable and the Chinese laundry, which had a high board fence and a high gate around it, and box stalls, and the reason why that was conducted that way.\n\nHarris: Every livery stable of any importance made provision for stallions. A man would own a stallion, and he would advertise that he would be in Eugene on certain days, and he would be in Cresswell on certain days, he would be in Cottage Grove on certain days, and he would stop, for example, at the John Stuart livery stable, and there would be a box stall,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=15240.0,15300.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which would be used by the owner of that stallion. And then out in the open space, there were the facilities for serving the mares. And that was the explanation of that. That was true of John Stuart Stables, it was true of Eli Bang Stable.\n\nTugman: And those high fences were to protect the ladies and the children from these nuisances here.\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: Now let's go on west Eighth and Olive.\n\nReel 6\n\nHarris: [0:00] At the northwest corner of the intersection of Olive and West Eighth was the home of a man of the name of Lane. He also owned a building immediately west of his home that was called Lane Theater.\n\nI remember the western part … the west part of that building was on stilts and that was because of the slough that crossed that block coming from Charnelton Street over towards the Bangs livery prop … the livery stable property. There was nothing west … [1:00] in that block west of the Lane Theater at that time.\n\nTugman: Could you tell us about the shows he gave there?\n\nHarris: I can't tell you anything about the shows. I don't know of anything that would be particularly interesting. At any rate, it was known as the Lane Theatre and at that time there was no other building in the town that served the purposes of the theatre.\n\nLater on, John Reinhardt had a theatre building here, where the present Odd Fellow building is.\n\nOver on the southwest corner of the intersection of Olive and West Eighth, was the livery … was the blacksmith shop of George Nelson. And the west side of his building was likewise sustained by stilts because of the slough, as I [2:00] mentioned. Down on the west end of that block and facing on Charnelton Street was the home of V. MacFarlane.\n\nProceeding on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Charnelton and West Eighth Street, was the residence of a Mr. Osborne. I've forgotten his initials, he was the father of F. W. Osborne. There was no building in the early days in that block … on that block, and facing on West Eighth except the Presbyterian Church which stood at the northeast corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West Eighth.\n\nAcross the street from the Osborne property, and at the southwest corner [3:00]  the\n\nintersection of Charnelton and West Eighth, was a residence occupied by a man of the name of the Genes. And on west from him, and in the west half of that block, was the home of Dr. Gill. Dr. Gill was the father of George Gill, who was a mighty fine man and a splendid horse trainer, and he devoted practically his entire time to training and driving harness horses, and he always had one or more stallions, and he was the father of Slats Gill.\n\nTugman: I think you said that perhaps some of Slats Gill's skill as a student of basketball [4:00]\n\nflesh might be inherited from his horse training job.\n\nHarris: Well, my idea about his ability as a trainer was inherited from his father, who was … who was a splendid horse trainer and he was … George Gill was a fine man.\n\nThen proceeding on west at the northwest corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West Eighth was the home of a man the name of Brown He was an artisan, and I’d better do Strong now.\n\nTugman: Well, you had Brown, Otis, and then the Fisher on a different farther.\n\nHarris: I want to find out about Otis.\n\nTugman: Well, now, Judge, this is a little digression from what we've been talking about today, but will you tell us a little bit about the early railroad transportation [5:00] through here. I think you said they were all wood burners and something about how trains were operated. Did we have a roundhouse here in those days or …\n\nHarris: … we never had a roundhouse in Eugene. Springfield … or not Springfield … but Junction City used to be a division, but it was a division only for freight trains. But the Southern Pacific or the O\u0026C, its predecessor, never had a roundhouse in Eugene until they had the present roundhouse out west of town. However, there was a train that came from Portland to Eugene in the afternoon, went back to Portland the next morning. And they had a turntable, so they could turn the engine around.\n\nIn the early days, the fuel was wood. [6:00] And the wood was always stacked next to the railroad, so that if, for example, your train was traveling from here to Roseburg, and if they needed wood before they got to Roseburg, there would be a place that the train could stop, and they could put on wood on a tender. The tender was nothing more or less than a trailer for the engine proper. That trailer or tender was always filled with wood for them when the train started out.\n\nTugman: Now at these stops where they took on wood, did they have helpers or did the engineer and the fireman do that themselves?\n\nHarris: Well, the brakeman did most of that. The fireman would help. And once in a while,\n\na passenger would help.\n\nBut in the early days, they didn't have airbrakes. They had to stop the trains with handbrakes [7:00] the real early days. I remember when the passenger trains all had handbrakes on the passenger engine … or passenger cars. And I remember that freight trains, every brakeman had a … he had a stick that he could use so that he could get leverage. He put it down this way, see, like this, and he could get leverage to turn that brake. And the brakes were always up on the top of the box cars, and a brakeman had a real job in those days before they had air brakes.\n\nTugman: Were there any of those railroad men who lived here when you were a boy?\n\nHarris: I don't recall any railroad men living in Eugene See this was not a division point. It was a stop point for a while for what we used to call the local passenger between here and Portland. And after a few years, they extended that run [8:00] from Eugene to Roseburg. So that in due course of time, they had no more use for even the turntable in Eugene.\n\nTugman: Well then, when you were a boy, did they have through service to California or was it just terminating here at that time?\n\nHarris: I don't remember the year, but I do distinctly remember that … when we were living at the corner of Charnelton and West Fifth, was the year when the last spike was driven, connecting the road from California to Oregon, and the last spike was driven near Ashland. And people went up there to the depot, [9:00] having been informed that they could hear the last spike driven. And it was so arranged that when the spike was driven a telegraph instrument would give you the information. I remember that very distinctly.\n\nTugman: How did people, friends … your father, if he had to go to San Francisco before the railroad had through service, how would he travel?\n\nHarris: Well, it was a rule for people to go to Portland and take a boat.\n\nTugman: And between here and Portland, were they using the train or were some of them still\n\ngoing over the road?\n\nHarris: Well, it was an awfully hard trip from here to Portland by buggy and most people\n\nused the train.\n\nTugman: Were the steamboats still running when you were a boy?\n\nHarris:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=15300.0,18600.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I read in the newspaper just the other day about steamboats coming to Eugene. I\n\nnever saw but one steamboat in Eugene in my life. A steamboat came up to Eugene and they made a great celebration of it. People were down there to the bridge just below what's now known as Third Street bridge. The bridge at that time was a covered bridge. Sam Friendly was mayor and he made his speech and he made a great ado about it. That steamboat was advertised to make regular trips to Eugene but it didn’t last very long. It just wasn't in the cards, that's all, it was impossible. In the summertime especially, it would just simply be impossible to make the riffles.\n\nTugman: Well now in those days where people going up the Mackenzie as much or I\n\nmean proportionately","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18600.0,18660.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as they are today.\n\nHarris: Oh no, no, no. Propor … proportionately there was not nearly as many people went up the Mackenzie. It's true that people did go the … up the Mackenzie. People went to Foley Springs, people went to Belknap Springs. But relatively speaking, not very many … there wasn't a great many people.\n\nTugman: When they went, they went to spend the summer …\n\nHarris: … yeah …\n\nTugman: or spend three or four weeks.\n\nHarris: Well, when you stop and think about it, this is a hard day's trip from here to Mackenzie Bridge. For example, the stage would leave Eugene in the morning early, never later than eight, and generally close to seven. And even in the best weather in the summertime, it wouldn't land at the Frisell place, or what you know now as McKenzie’s … as the Log Cabin Inn, until close to six o'clock. And then it would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18660.0,18720.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go on to Foley Springs, that was the end of the stage route, the mail route. \n\nTugman: Well, now, as a boy where did the … where did you kids swim? Where did you …\n\nHarris: Oh, we went over north of the Butte. I mean, later on, when I was … to begin with, before I knew how to swim there were three holes. One was known as the Little Hole and that is up behind Paine’s Tannery, in that area. The other was known as the Middle Hole that is behind the Carmen Hop Yard. The Carmen home was just about where the gas plant is up there and when you graduated from the Little Hole or the Middle Hole, so you thought you could really swim, why, then you went down to the mouth, Swift Slough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18720.0,18780.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That time the Willamette River turned and went north, at a point not far from Judkins Point, and it described a U and came back south at a point not very far from … above or from the … that's now Ferry Street Bridge. I would say it would be the equivalent of Rockingham.\n\nTugman: Now this little, what you call the Little Hole, where was that tannery?\n\nHarris: The tannery stood just about where Eugene Sand \u0026 Gravel Company’s offices are.\n\nTugman: Oh, yeah.\n\nHarris: Well, the little hole was just a small place. Now then, as I told you, the Willamette River described this U.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18780.0,18840.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If, for example, you cross Ferry Street Bridge and turn to your right, the first road that turns to the right, with a view of going up on the right-hand bank of the Willamette River, you cross a bridge at the end of probably 400, 500 feet from the Coburg Road. That bridge crosses what used to be the channel of the Willamette River, and that part of the channel was a part of this U that I tell you about.\n\nTugman: And that was what you called a slough there? What was the name of that slough?\n\nHarris: Well, I haven't got to that yet now. I'll describe the river. Then water came from the Willamette River at the point where it turned north to create that U. It came through a big drift and it came down past the tannery in … north of the Kermin place","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18840.0,18900.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then came into the main river at a point that I would say would be 300 yards, maybe 400 yards above of what's now the Ferry Street Bridge. That was called Swift Slough, and this little hole that was in behind Paine’s tannery was called the Little Hole, And the hole that was in behind the Kermin place was called the Middle Hole and the mouth of Swift Slough was called a … a … or they just simply said the river. Well, if you got so you could swim good enough to be there at the mouth of Swift Slough, why, the river was pretty rough when it came around and you could either swim in the … the smooth water, which was deep, the Willamette fills the Swift Slough at that place, or if you wanted to, you could go up and come down in the swift water. Well, anyhow,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18900.0,18960.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's the story about the swimming, except that you could swim in the north, in the Willamette River.\n\nReel 7\n\nTugman: [0:00] Today, Judge Lawrence T. Harris is going to describe a little trip we took along Fifth Street from the intersection with High through to about Washington Street, describing the town as he knew it when he was a boy in that section of Eugene and the life of the people who lived in that area. Judge Harris?\n\nHarris: I pointed out to you as we stood at the corner of High and West Fifth, the course followed by an old slough. When I say a slough, I do not mean by that that the water was in it the year around, nor was the water moving in it the year around or any, any considerable portion of the year. I [1:00] think probably you will understand the slough better when I follow its course from the point where we stood on High and East Fifth, to the point where Eli Bangs had a livery stable. This … the course of this slough … crossed what's now known as High Street. And it ran across the block from the west side of High Street … to …. no, the east side of High Street … no, the west side of High Street which would be the east side of the block, to the east side of Pearl Street and the west side of the block and it thence [2:00] crossed the street and ran triangularly … it ran in a triangle …. it ran westerly from the west side of Pearl Street to Oak Street, and thence ran across the block between Oak Street and Willamette Street.\n\nTugman: Pretty much on the line of Sixth at that point?\n\nHarris: The slough would be a little bit north of Sixth Street at that point, until it got to the northeast corner of us now, the intersection of Willamette and East Sixth. And then the slough proceeded [3:00] westerly to what is now known as the intersection of West Fifth … West Sixth, rather, and Olive streets. And then the slough proceeded southwesterly, running in behind the home at one time owned by Phil Miller, and crossed the area that's now occupied by Meadowland Creamery into what is now known as Charnelton Street, and then the street continued southerly to a point [4:00] a short distance north of Eighth Street, and then turned southeasterly and ran across the block between Charnelton and Olive Streets to the north side of Eighth Street.\n\nI recollect in this connection that the first theater building, if I knew anything about Eugene, the old Lane Theater, which stood on the north side of Eighth Street between Olive and Charnelton, that the Lane building stood practically on stilts. And then the slough crossed the street and ran [5:00] across the block, this is on the south side of Eighth Street … and between West Eighth Street and between Olive and Charnelton.\n\nAnd I remember George Nelson had a blacksmith shop at the southwest corner of the intersection of West Eighth and Olive Streets, and the west side of his building stood on stilts. The reason was because of the existence of the slough. And then the slough crossed the street, going southeasterly, and ran into the area that was owned and occupied by Eli Bangs. Eli Bangs had a livery stable which was right next to the alley, the alley that runs immediately … runs [6:00] north and south and immediately west of the west end of the First National Bank building and Eli Bangs's home was at the northeast corner of the intersection of Olive and West Eighth Street, and the area in that quarter block that was owned by Eli Bangs, upon which nothing had been built, was lower than the street because of the former existence of the slough.\n\nTugman: Did that slough eventually go into the Amazon out in what was then the country?\n\nHarris: No. I don't know of any connection at all. There may have been a connection at some time but if there was it was before my time.\n\nTugman: Well, did it just peter out as it got out into the fields or did it go back in …\n\nHarris: Well my recollection is that the slough ended at the Eli Bang’s [7:00] livery stable in all probability before any buildings had been constructed or any streets made or that the slough extended farther. I should say in this connection that when I was a boy, that part of the slough which was between Seventh Street and Eighth Street was a skating pond in the wintertime.\n\nI, as a youngster, skated on that slough, or not every winter, by any means, because we didn't have enough … ice enough every winter, but we did have enough ice two or three winters during my boyhood days.\n\nTugman: Well, now, beginning back at Fifth and High, you noticed the old structure of the Eugene Mill and Elevator Company, which I believe you said was established [8:00] by a man named Edris …\n\nHarris: …Edris …\n\nTugman: … and Joe Gray and I think a man named Hilyard may have had a hand in it.\n\nHarris: In my recollection, now I remember William Edris. I, was a boy, remember William Edris. I likewise remember Joe Gray. And during my knowledge of those two men, they were interested in that grist mill. William Edris lived at the corner where C. O. Peterson for many years lived, which was the southwest corner of High and East Sixth Streets. Joe Gray owned the quarter block and lived at the northeast corner of the intersection of Willamette …not Willamette … but Eleventh Street and Oak Street.\n\nTugman: Well, now, [9:00] I notice you call it a grist mill. Now, in those days, did the people have their wheat ground into flour locally?\n\nHarris: As a rule, a farmer took his wheat to the mill, and it was ground for him at the mill.\n\nTugman: That is, his flour was ground, and his feed would be ground …\n\nHarris: … yes …\n\nTugman: Both. Well, now coming on up Fifth Street, you mentioned the old home of … of William M. Preston. I think you said the southwest corner of Fifth and Pearl.\n\nHarris: That's correct. William M. Preston was a harness man. Afterwards he formed a partnership with Charles Hales. His place of business was right across the alley on the east side of Willamette Street between Eighth … right across the alley from the F. B. Dunn store and on the east side of Willamette Street between East","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=18960.0,22200.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] Eighth and Broadway, East Broadway.\n\nThe original home of Mr. Preston was moved southerly and down on what was originally the site of a part of the slough, and the house that stands upon the site of the old home was constructed by Preston sometime quite a while ago. I don't remember how long ago. William Preston passed on quite a few years ago, and his wife passed on within the last year.\n\nTugman: And then I think one of the next homes you came to was that of B. F. Dorris.\n\nHarris: The B. F. Dorris home was on the northwest corner of the intersection of … of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22200.0,22260.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pearl and East Fifth Streets. B. F. Dorris was a city recorder of Eugene a great many years. Prior to being a city recorder, he ran a tin shop. And his tin shop was right next to the drugstore that F. M. Wilkins had on the east side of Willam … Willamette Street.\n\nB. F. Dorris was a splendid citizen. His home was at the site that I indicated, and he owned the land from West Fifth going north to the railroad.\n\nTugman: Now that's in the area where we now have the Oregon Electric.\n\nHarris: That's right.\n\nTugman: And then I believe on the other side of the street there was a man named Burger.\n\nHarris: No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22260.0,22320.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Burger was on the same side.\n\nTugman: Same side.\n\nHarris: The two Burger boys and their sister and mother lived in that home. I don't remember the father. George Burger was the older brother and Jake Burger was the younger. George Burger and Mack Summerville owned and operated a saloon that was on the east side of Willamette Street between Eighth and Broadway. Jake … my recollection is that Jake was a painter for a long time. Then there was a daughter. That house stood not far from where the Oregon Electric Depot is.\n\nTugman: Then you mentioned an Anderson House.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22320.0,22380.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I believe you said Mr. Anderson was a carpenter and a great friend of President Johnson.\n\nHarris: The Anderson House was the first house north of the railroad track on the west side of Pearl Street and north of the B .F. Dorris home. Anderson and John W. Johnson, the President of the University, were very intimate friends. Both were members of the Masonic Lodge, and they could be seen together, frequently, exercising by walking around the town.\n\nTugman: Now, I think that brings us to Fifth and Oak and the Joel Ware home on the southeast corner.\n\nHarris: Joel Ware was county clerk in Lane County a great many years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22380.0,22440.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the latter years of his life, he was United States commissioner.\n\nTugman: And what sort of person was Joel Ware? Do you remember him as a man?\n\nHarris: Joel Ware was a comparatively short man in stature. My recollection is that he tended to business strictly and did not go around much. He had … my recollection is three sons and one daughter. He was a very, very well-respected citizen of Eugene, and had the confidence of the people.\n\nTugman: Then the notes show the next house","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22440.0,22500.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was Ben Underwood’s. I believe he was a merchant, wasn't he?\n\nHarris: I don't know what his business was. Underwood owned the west half of the block which faces on Willamette Street and between Fifth and … East Fifth and Sixth. His house faced Willamette Street. It was a large building. He had a fine family, and his home was the scene of a great many social festivities.\n\nTugman: Now, when you speak of social festivities, those would be ... uh.\n\nHarris: In those days, we called them parties and that's all that was to it.\n\nTugman: People would come and dance.\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: They didn't have recordings. They … they had to have fiddlers.\n\nHarris: That's it exactly.\n\nTugman: And see that brings us up to the W. B. Andrews lumberyard.\n\nHarris:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22500.0,22560.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"W. B. Andrews was with the Union forces at the Battle of Bull Run. He was a short man in that stature, rather heavy set, and he operated the lumberyard at the northeast corner of the intersection of East Fifth and Willamette Streets for a good many years. And my recollection is that he didn't move from that place until the Oregon Electric took over the area for the purpose of building its depot, and then Andrews moved to the vacant quarter block, that is between … that was between Willamette and Olive Streets and on the south side of West Fifth Street. He ran a lumberyard there for a long time.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22560.0,22620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now we cross over Willamette to the northwest corner, and I believe you said that on the northwest corner, where the Lane Hotel now stands, was the residence of A .J. Johnson ...\n\nHarris: That's right.\n\nTugman: McClung and Johnson.\n\nHarris: A .J. Johnson and John H. McClung were partners in the mercantile business for a long time. And their store was located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Eighth … intersection of West Eighth and Willamette streets, and immediately north of their store was the F. M. Wilkins drug store in the earlier days and about 1890, Wilkins moved across the street. The site of the original Wilkins drug store and the McClung and Johnson store is now occupied by what we know as the Tiffany building.\n\nA. J. Johnson, after","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22620.0,22680.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the dissolution was … of the firm of McClung and Johnson, was the elected sheriff of Lane County. I do not recall how long he was sheriff, but my present recollection is that there's more than one term. And my recollection is that his last term of office terminated in 1898, and I think he was succeeded by the … I know, W. W. Withers was elected in 1898, and my recollection is that Withers succeeded Johnson.\n\nTugman: Then I think you said that just beyond Johnson's place was the tract owned by George Sovereigns who had a farm and an orchard where the city jail now is.\n\nHarris: The old George Sovereigns home stood upon the ground that's now occupied by the city","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22680.0,22740.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"jail. The area between the Sovereigns home and the A. J. Johnson home was the fruit orchard of Sovereigns. He … his barn was north of it … er … Sovereign's barn was north of his house, and a gate led through the fence to his barn, and the gate being on what would be the west side of Olive Street if it were projected north to the railroad.\n\nTugman: What was on the other side of Fifth between Willamette and Olive, doyou remember? That would be between Fifth and where the slough ran along Sixth Street.\n\nHarris: Well, between Willamette Street and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22740.0,22800.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olive, there was … my earliest recollection … there was nothing on the corner of the … southwest corner of Willamette and West of Fifth, until I think it was along about in 1890, maybe a little earlier. The building was constructed and afterwards was occupied by J. W. White for a long time as a grocery store. And the area that constituted the northwest corner of that block, or in other words, the southeast corner of the intersection of Olive and Fifth, was the place for W. B. Andrews, who operated his lumberyard in the latter years of his life.\n\nTugman: I think you said there was a man named Hyman …\n\nHarris: … that was across the street …\n\nTugman: across the street … that is between Olive…\n\nHarris: That is between Olive and Charnelton Street. And a man","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22800.0,22860.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the name of Hyman lived in the southwest corner of the intersection of Olive and West Fifth. He had the whole quarter block. And next to him was George N. Frazier. George Frazier conducted a foundry located on Eighth Street … East Eighth Street, next to the mill race. The building still stands there. Part of it, at any rate. And George Frazier was a musician. He played the … the clarinet. Oh, wait a minute, I was wrong about that … the cornet. And he was also interested in teaching young boys to play instruments, band instruments, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22860.0,22920.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there, during most of the years of my boyhood, he had a boy’s band.\n\nTugman: Boy's band. Now you also had the city band during that period.\n\nHarris: Yes. It wasn't long ago, I saw a picture in Eugene Register-Guard of George Frazier's boy's band in front of his house which stood on West Fifth Street.\n\nTugman: And in those days anybody could play in the band. I mean, anybody who wanted to play, could play.\n\nHarris: Yes, yes. George himself played in the city band. And next to George Frazier was the home of Sherwood Burr. Sherwood Burr was County … Deputy County Clerk under Joe Ware for a good many years. And over on the north side of West Fifth Street,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22920.0,22980.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and immediately across from the Hyman, the George Frazier, and the Sherwood Burr homes. Originally, in about, I know, in 1884, until … and until two or three years after that, that whole block was a vacant, unfenced area, and was used as a baseball field by the boys whenever they wanted to play baseball. In due course of time, George Midgley built a tanning mill there nearer the east side of the block than it was the west side of the block and in due course of time George Midgley and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=22980.0,23040.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"George Dysinger were … became partners in the operation of that tanning mill And in later years, Dysinger constructed a house, which because of its ornate workmanship, with reference to … speaking with reference to wood, it was really a show place for many years. Dysinger later moved to Roseburg. The old Dysinger home still stands, but it's in a dilapidated condition now.\n\nTugman: That's that old house you showed me there this afternoon.\n\nHarris: In due course of time, George Midgley built a tanning mill over on High Street in that building. That place of business is still sometimes called Midgley tanning mill. In the same block, which was originally a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23040.0,23100.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"baseball field, Cy Watkins, who was in the butcher business, built a house that still stands. His house is the northeast corner of the intersection of West Fifth and Charnelton Streets.\n\nNow I'm coming to the next block, going west, which next block is between Charnelton and Lincoln Streets. On the south side of the street, in the corner … southwest corner of the intersection of Charnelton and West Fifth, was the Stephen Jenkins home. Then, next to him was his father-in-law, Reverend Richardson. And going west, the next home was that of Charles Collier, who, for a great many years, was county surveyor for Lane County.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23100.0,23160.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Over on the north side of the street, the block between Lincoln and Charnelton, the northwest corner of the intersection of Charnelton and West Fifth was the home of my parents.\n\nAnd after we moved into that home in 1884, John B. Harris, who was no relation to us, had purchased or built upon a parcel of ground which he had previously purchased from T. W. Shelton, a home that still stands, and my mother's living in that home.\n\nTugman: I believe you said that your house was originally built by Dr. Thomas W. Shelton.\n\nHarris: It was Dr. Shelton's home. When my father moved from Albany to Eugene in 1884,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23160.0,23220.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he purchased the residence of T. W. Shelton, and also the business of T. W. Shelton, who was a doctor.\n\nTugman: And then Shelton went up on the slopes of the Butte and built that very large old house up there, which we now know as the McMurphy home.\n\nHarris: That's right. That's correct.\n\nTugman: Well, now, coming still west I believe your mother is still living in a little house …\n\nHarris: … well, that's the house that was built by John B. Harris …\n\nTugman: … the house just west of where you lived as a boy.\n\nHarris: Yes. The … the area that was … upon which my parents’ home was located is now owned and occupied by Tillman, I’m told.\n\nTugman: That's where Tilman … Tilman Plumbing comes in.\n\nHarris: That's right.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23220.0,23280.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And your mother will be … her … at her next birthday.\n\nHarris: … be 99 of September of 29, 1954, if she lives to be that … she lives that long.\n\nTugman: Well, now let's go on west across Lincoln between Lincoln and Lawrence. I think you said the north half of the block south of Fifth Street was owned by John Church.\n\nHarris: John Church was a partner of James Robinson in the hardware business. It was known as Robinson and Church. Their store was on the east side of Willamette Street. The site of their store was the south half of what's now the United States National Bank, Eugene Branch. The residence of John Church is still standing. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23280.0,23340.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"originally faced … Lincoln Street, and it was moved to its present location on the south side of West Fifth Street so that a new building could be constructed. A new residen … residential building could be constructed.\n\nTugman: Are we about at the end of the tape? Well, one minute more. I think you said Mr. Coleman owned the opposite half of that block.\n\nHarris: A man with the name of David Coleman owned the … more than a quarter block across the street. Coleman was murdered, and one of his daughters was also killed at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23340.0,23400.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A man who was enamored of the daughter. I don't recall the man's name … went into the living room of the Coleman house one evening about 8 o’clock … shot David Coleman, like part (?) of the daughter. Then he ran across the alley north of the house, and into a barn and committed suicide in that barn.\n\nTugman: You don't remember … remember the year of that?\n\nHarris: No, I don't recall.\n\nTugman: But you were a small boy at the time?\n\nHarris: Yes, I was a youngster.\n\nTugman: And I imagine it caused a great deal of excitement around the town.\n\nHarris: Natur … naturally I did.\n\nTugman: What was Coleman's business you say?\n\nHarris: He had a farm over near Colburg.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23400.0,23460.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. Are we about out on that tape? All right.\n\nReel 8\n\nTugman: [o:oo] Well now Judge, uh, we’ll go on across, we’ll go on across … go on … go west on Fifth Street, west between Lincoln and Lawrence. You've told us about your boyhood home, and I think we're now ready to cross Lawrence Street. There was a home of a man named Miller at Lawrence on the northeast corner.\n\nHarris: Miller's home was at the northeast corner of the intersection of West Fifth and Lawrence Street.\n\nTugman: What did he do?\n\nHarris: I don't recall what Miller did in my recoll … really, I don't believe that he was engaged in anything in any business.\n\nTugman: He was just retired?\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: In other words, even in those days, [1:00] a farmer would save a little money and come to town to live.\n\nHarris: Once in a while, a farmer would do that. Miller, however, was not a farmer.\n\nTugman: Then in the middle of that block on the north side, you pointed out an old residence, which I believe is now occupied by the family of Kenneth Poole. His wife has a little children's theater studio there. House is still standing, and in very good condition, and in use. Do you remember who built that house?\n\nHarris: I built that house in 1904 or 1903, and before I was married. I was married April 28, 1904, but it stood on Fourth Street and they moved it in about two years after 1904 to its present location.\n\nTugman: And then on the northwest corner of Fifth and Lawrence …\n\nHarris: That's the home of John W. Johnson, who [2:00] was the president … the first president of the University of Oregon. I have a very distinct recollection that on the day that my mother and I came to Eugene on the train which arrived in Eugene about two o 'clock in the afternoon in 1884, to take up residence in Eugene, we went … proceeded west on Fifth Street, and at a point somewhere between Willamette Street and Olive Street, a man driving a team for the wagon was loaded with loam, was going west. Not long afterwards I learned that that was A. C. Woodcock who subsequently was a leading lawyer [3:00] in Eugene. Woodcock earned his way through the University of Oregon, and he was working for John W. Johnson and driving that team for the purpose of getting a good yard for President Johnson.\n\nTugman: Building loam soil?\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: That old house is still there. It's quite a large house.\n\nHarris: Now occupied and owned by a Mrs. Amos Wilkins.\n\nRight across the street, south, is a large square building that was built by Reverend Gehry, a Presbyterian minister, in … some time near [4:00] the early part of the 1890s. The man by the name of Griffin and his family moved to Eugene, and he bought out the Robinson-Church Hardware Store and ran the store for quite a while. Griffin bought the Gehry Home. His family lived there for many years. On the same side of the street, and before you get to Washington Street, there was a home occupied by W. B. Andrews that was connected to the Eugene City Bank. Over on the north side of the street and to the west of the John W. Johnson home and on the corner of … the northeast corner of the intersection of Washington and West Fifth was the home of S. W. Condon, Seymour W. Condon, [5:00] for quite a while. Then the next block west of that, which would be the northwest corner of the intersection of the street, John B. Harris, who has no relation to my family, had a home.\n\nTugman: I think you said beyond him was the George A. Dorris home.\n\nHarris: Oh, yes. George A. Doris lived in the southwest corner of the same block where the John B. Harris home stood.\n\nTugman: Now that George Dorris was the brother of the Ben F. Dorris that we mentioned earlier.\n\nHarris: No, George A. Dorris was a son of B. F. Dorris. B. F. Doris and George B. Dorris were brothers. George … or B .F. Dorris … was the father of Ed Dorris, and Ed Dorris is the … was the father of [6:00] the Ben Dorris that you know.\n\nTugman: Now, this George A. Dorris was a lawyer, wasn't he?\n\nHarris: Yes, yes.\n\nTugman: And he lived until, oh, somewhere in the '30s.\n\nHarris: Yes. He retired from law practice and raised asparagus … and I … my recollection is he also raised filberts.\n\nTugman: I think they pioneered both filberts and asparagus in this part of the country. I know that when I first came here one of the first ranch homes I visited was the present home of R. Ben Dorris over across the river in Springfield …\n\nHarris: … and that's the place that to George A. …\n\nTugman: … and his uncle and his wife were there, and I had asparagus as I've never had it before, and they showed me their experiments with filberts and these other trees. Then beyond … beyond the Dorris home, you mentioned the W. B. [7:00] Andrews …\n\nHarris: … the same W. B. Andrews that had the lumberyard where the Oregon Electric Depot now stands, and where, as I pointed out to you, the northwest corner of the block between Oak and Willamette Streets on the south side of West Fifth.\n\nTugman: And beyond that, what was it?\n\nHarris: Beyond that, my earliest recollection was simply an open field where grain was raised and, uhm, as I told you, the last house that was on the West Fifth going west was the Drake home, and between that home and what we now know as Blair Street was an open field where grain was raised.\n\nTugman: Well, now, you told me that when you were a boy, [8:00] people in that neighborhood kept cows, everybody had a barn, he had a horse, and he had a cow. And those cows were pastured, I believe, up on the Butte.\n\nHarris: Skinner's Butte. People would take their cows to Skinner's Butte, they'd pay a char … a monthly charge for it. The … the area was all enclosed with a fence, and my earliest recollection is that the fence which enclosed the area … the south fence …. came as far as the first alley going north from West Fifth on Lincoln Street. [9:00] In other words, if you went over on the corner where Dave Coleman lived and went north, you'd just travel one half block and you'd come to the gate. There's a big gate that you'd have to go through in order to get into the area where the cows were pastured. Later on, that gate was taken out and only one gate was used, on the other side, north side of the railroad.\n\nTugman: In other words, you had two gates …\n\nHarris: … yeah …\n\nTugman: … one was south of the railroad, the other was north of the railroad and uhm … now, did people bring their cows home to milk them, or … ?\n\nHarris: People would take their cows in the morning, pasture them there, bring them home in the evening. Of course, that don't mean that people lived … who lived in the southern part of the town took their cows up to the Skinner Peak, Skinner Butte area to pasture them.\n\nTugman:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=23460.0,25800.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just in that neighborhood.\n\nHarris: Yes, because people in living … in other areas would have other places to pasture their cows. But of course, this pasturing connected with these … Skinner's Butte extended the full length of the Butte and over on the east end of it.\n\nTugman: Well, now, I suppose it was your job as a boy to take care of that cow.\n\nHarris: Yes, I had to … I'd take my cow to the pasture every morning and get her for evening milking.\n\nTugman: And bring in the wood.\n\nHarris: Yes, and I would walk to university and didn't have any automobile to ride.\n\nTugman: I believe you told me that President Johnson himself walked to and from the university.\n\nHarris: He did … and so did Professor Hawthorne. Professor Hawthorne lived over on the corner of Fourth and Lawrence. Professor Hawthorne was a very interesting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=25800.0,25860.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"character, a fine man. He was with the Confederate troops in the War of the '60s. In the Battle of Gettysburg, he was on Armistead's staff. He never talked about the war except to his very intimate friends, and even then, he was not at all anxious to discuss it, one way or the other. His boy … one of his boys, was with the Oregon troops in the Philippines, Spanish-American War, and he was killed in battle.\n\nOne of the most solemn occasions I ever witnessed in my life was the one when the first flag pole,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=25860.0,25920.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which was erected in the park in Eugene, across from the courthouse, was dedicated. As I said a moment ago, Professor Hawthorne was at the Battle of Gettysburg. There was a surviving member of the First Minnesota living at Goshen. You will recall that 83% of the First Minnesota was lost in 15 minutes at Gettysburg, so that when this flagpole was dedicated, the ceremon … ceremony involved in the raising of the flag","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=25920.0,25980.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with Hawthorne, a surviving member of the southern troops, a survivor of Gettysburg, and this survivor of the First Tennessee … or First Minnesota … there was an exceedingly impressive occasion. Hawthorne was a fine man and a splendid teacher and his students all liked him and appreciated him.\n\nTugman: Did these two old soldiers talk about the battle at all that you know of?\n\nHarris: I don't know, but I should add this: When the anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg was held and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=25980.0,26040.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the scene of the battle by the Union troops and Professor Hawthorne among other Southern troops, Southern survivors, was invited to attend that reunion. Professor Hawthorne told me about the occasion. He was assigned to a certain group of surviving Union troops, and he was their guest, and he said they wouldn't let him do anything for himself. And they wanted to do something for him all the time. And he appreciated it very, very much. They clipped to the scene of the battle and these experiences.\n\nTugman: Now, it was his son's death,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26040.0,26100.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think which Herbert Thompson has described in that book that he is writing about the experiences of the Oregon volunteers in the Philippines. I don't know whether you've read that chapter in the manuscript or not …\n\nHarris: … no, I haven’t read it or seen it …\n\nTugman: … but I think you told me that Professor Hawthorne had had perhaps more than his share of tragedy in his own family.\n\nHarris: Yes, that's correct. That's correct.\n\nTugman: He lost this boy and I think he lost his other children.\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: Can you describe him, his personality and you went to school to him?\n\nHarris: Yes, he was a rather slow-moving man. Mentally, he was quick, but he … he was not at all forward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26100.0,26160.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was very discreet in what he did. But it’s after all is said and done, he was just simply a plain ordinary man … and wanted to be that way.\n\nTugman: I think you said he was a great admirer of Stonewall Jackson.\n\nHarris: He was. He told me on one occasion that Jackson never lost a battle and Lee never won one. But when he made that statement, he did not do it at all with the view of saying anything derogatory, generally because he admired him very, very much, but he as a man, but he did have a very high regard for Jackson as a general.\n\nTugman: Do you know what state he came from?\n\nHarris: I’m … I don't recall.\n\nTugman: Well, now,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26160.0,26220.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can you give us something of, oh, the character of some of these other early citizens? Now, one of the Dorris’s is recorded in the history of Lane County as having been the first president of the City of Eugene … of Eugene City. In those days, Eugene was called Eugene City, and the mayor was called the city president. I think that was the original Ben F. Did you know him?\n\nHarris: I knew, I knew Ben Dorris through the days when he ran the tin shop and through the days when he was city recorder. He was a small man and in all probability it was he … I'm not, I don't have any recollection or any information about which one was the mayor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26220.0,26280.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or the president, but in all probability it was Ben Dorris, I don't believe that George B. Dorris would have done it. I don't mean by that that George B. Dorris would have any objection to serving, but I think his interests as a lawyer were such that he wouldn't have had the time to give it attention.\n\nTugman: Well now, can you recall the personality of President Johnson? I believe he came from Yale University but was self- … pretty much self-made.\n\nHarris: My understanding is that President Johnson made his own way through Yale. I do not believe that he had any assistance at all. He had to depend upon himself. He","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26280.0,26340.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was a strict disciplinarian, and he expected his students to do what they were supposed to do, and he had no use for any student who didn't have his lessons.\n\nTugman: Was he a big man?\n\nHarris: No, a small man physically. Not a real small man, but he was not a large man physically. President Johnson was a great teacher. As I've expressed it on many occasions, he'd make you learn whether you could or not.\n\nTugman: He taught the classics.\n\nHarris: Yes, Latin. He taught Latin with the English pronunciation for which I've always been very, very thankful, because there's so many roots of the Latin that are roots of English words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26340.0,26400.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it's very much better for a student to know the English pronunciation rather than the Continental.\n\nTugman: I believe he was criticized because he chewed tobacco and occasionally took a snort.\n\nHarris: Well, he'd go along the street, and you could tell if he's chewing tobacco. More than that there was a box stove in his room … didn't have these heating plants like they have now. The box stove, and fire was produced with wood.\n\nTugman: This was up in old Deady Hall.\n\nHarris: This was Deady Hall, the first room to the left as you enter the building, the main part of it. He'd sit in front of that box stove even with class is in session and he'd spit in the … in the stove.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26400.0,26460.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He didn't have very much tobacco in his mouth, just enough to make … to let you know that he was chewing tobacco.\n\nTugman: Now did he drive a team too?\n\nHarris: I never saw him drive a team in my life. He had a barn of course for his horses, I mean, for his cows.\n\nTugman: But he wasn't a horseman.\n\nHarris: No, I never saw him drive a team alive. I don't think he had any horses at all. And I think that if he … if he had had a team, I would have known about it.\n\nTugman: Now, as president of the university, did he give receptions and have the social life that a college president has today, or was he more mingling with the townspeople?\n\nHarris: If he ever had a reception of any kind, I never heard of it. I don't think that he would have had any pleasure at all with any reception.\n\nTugman: You say …\n\nHarris: … he was that type.\n\nTugman: His great crony was this carpenter . . .\n\nHarris: … yeah, yeah …\n\nTugman: … with whom he took these long","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26460.0,26520.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"walks.\n\nHarris: Yeah.\n\nTugman: How did the students feel about him?\n\nHarris: The students all had a great deal of respect for J .W. Johnson because of his ability as a teacher, and also because of his strictness and sternness. He just simply did not permit any frivolity, and yet he was not mean about it.\n\nTugman: Well, now, can you … you mentioned that the Underwood home on Fifth Street was quite a social center. Can you recall any of the parties in that home?\n\nHarris: Well, it was a social center because of the young folks.\n\nTugman: Young folks.\n\nHarris: One of the girls was called “Pig” as her nickname Pig Underwood. Another was Anne, and there was a boy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26520.0,26580.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then there was some …. there was another daughter. This was a fine family of people, and they had a large home. And naturally, the students who were companions … there were girl students who were companions of these Underwood girls, and the son who was also a student at the university, his companions. It was a good place to hold parties, and naturally that's where they held them. I've seen many parties. I mean of students … young folks.\n\nTugman: Somebody could play the piano, I suppose?\n\nHarris: Oh, yes.\n\nTugman: Were they … were the barbershop quartets and the singing groups in vogue in those times?\n\nHarris: I never heard of any …\n\nTugman: … never heard of any …\n\nHarris: No.\n\nTugman: Well, now, you had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26580.0,26640.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a mixture here in Eugene then of civil war veterans from both sides, the gray and the blue. You recall that they ever got into any very marked arguments over the war?\n\nHarris: I don't recall any survivor of the Southern forces being in Eugene except Professor Hawthorne, but he had the … the respect of the members of the Grand Army of the Republic so far as I know. I don't know of any unpleasant occurrence at any time with Professor Hawthorne as one party and some member of the Grand Army of the Republic as another party. I came back from law school in 1896. Shortly after I returned,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26640.0,26700.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there was a convention of the members of the Grand Army of the Republic held in Eugene. And at that time, there were about 400 members. And my recollection is that there was a spirit of friendship between Professor Hawthorne and all these members of the Grand Army of the Republic.\n\nTugman: Of course, this was before your time, but there has been considerable reference to an incident that happened during the Civil War, where people living out near what is known as Smithfield or some people call it Franklin, they were mostly from the South. And the story as it goes is that somebody out there raised the stars and bars and the blue coats of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26700.0,26760.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home guard went out and made them take it down. Did you ever hear anybody recount that incident?\n\nHarris: I never heard any discussion about that at all.\n\nTugman: It's something I've tried to pin down and never have been able to.\n\nHarris: I imagine that all those who had first-hand knowledge of it have passed on.\n\nTugman: Now, in your time at the university, there were just the two buildings.\n\nHarris: Yes, Deady Hall, Valliard Hall, and then the last year came the gymnasium, the old gym, what we now know is the old gymnasium. And then after I graduated, there came the dormitory.\n\nTugman: That was Friendly Hall …\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: … which was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26760.0,26820.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given by Sam Friendly.\n\nHarris: No. Charles Wilkinson was a student at the university. He never graduated. He was a brilliant young man. And he was elected to the legislature in the House. And he obtained an appropriation for the construction of that building. And it was called Friendly Hall.\n\nTugman: Now, most of the students, in that time, were from right around Eugene, or did some of them come in from Portland and board here?\n\nHarris: Yes. When I graduated, there were about 200 of the students . . . the student body comprised about 250 students. Naturally, a very considerable number of them came from Eugene and around","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26820.0,26880.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Willamette Valley.\n\nTugman: Can you recall the conditions when you first came back from law school? I believe you went to Michigan …\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: … and the conditions of the times and the problems you faced as a young lawyer trying to get started.\n\nHarris: The hard times of the 1890s were still on. In 1893, great many banks were closed. Economic conditions were terrible. When I came back from law school, a deputy prosecuting attorney was to be appointed for Lane County. The state election","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26880.0,26940.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at that time was held in June. A district attorney had been elected. A district attorney was elected for six counties comprising the Second Judicial District, and those counties were Lincoln, Benton, Lane, Douglas, Coos, and Curry. The district attorney took care of all those six counties, but he had to have a deputy in each county. The … neither the District Attorney nor his deputies were paid salaries. They were paid fees for the services rendered. For example, a deputy, if he appeared in the justice court, the preliminary examination, or in the trial of a misdemeanor before the justice of the peace, he'd get so much for that. Smaller fees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=26940.0,27000.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The aggregate fees didn't run more than fifty or seventy-five dollars a month, but a dollar at that time purchased a great deal more than it purchases now. I remember that about three months after I was appointed, the county court asked me to come and see them and I did and they said that a great many, in fact, most of the merchants in Eugene were delinquent in the payment of their taxes. And they wanted me to go and see them and see if I couldn't collect some of the taxes. Well, imagine now a kid about 23 years old going to see a man who's sweating out his lifeblood to keep his business going and being asked to – by that kid to – pay his taxes. Nobody tried to kill me, nobody even swore at me,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=27000.0,27060.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and my only explanation of it is that they were simply dumbfounded when they were asked by a kid to pay their taxes and rendered utterly speechless. Anyhow, I reported in two times back to the county court and told them I'd collected nothing.\n\nTugman: I believe you said that you got the job because prosecutors had three candidates who were very anxious, so he appointed you to avoid trouble.\n\nHarris: That made them all mad then.\n\nTugman: Well, Judge, this has been very fine. In our next trip, I hope we can take up the topic of some of the early horse breeders and horse races.\n\nHarris: All right, that's fine, that's fine, whatever you want to. Now if they …\n\nReel 9\n\nTugman: [0:00] Today, Judge Harris and I rode out Eighth Street, you'll remember that we stopped last time at approximately Eighth and Lawrence, and the judge will tell us about the old Hodas residence in that vicinity, and then about the importance of Eighth Street in those days as a connection both to Lorane and Junction City, and also some of the interesting activities out in the country along that road.\n\nHarris: Clem Hodas was an old timer, a fine man. He built a house on the south side of what we now call Eighth Street. At the time he constructed that house, [1:00] the present street known as Lawrence Street ended with what we now know as Eighth. There was no Lawrence Street south of Eighth Street.\n\nRecently, I talked with W. H. Hodas, the son of Clem Hodas, and it is his recollection figuring with relation to the age of a brother, of his brother George, that the Hodas' property was probably constructed in … Hodas' home was constructed in 1887. The west boundary line of the Hodas’ property was the east boundary line of the Elias Stewart property. Elias Stewart was generally known as Eben Stewart. He was the father of Mrs. D. G. Hendricks and of Mrs. Joe Lucky [2:00] and of one of the Stevens brothers.\n\nThe west boundary line of the Stewart, the last Stewart property, was a lane which extended from what we know now as West Eighth Street on south out into the College Hill area and beyond. And this lane was the east boundary line of the Huddleston property. Jefferson Street, as presently extended south from West Eighth, [3:00] practically coincides with the lane that I mentioned.\n\nEben Stewart or Elias Stewart, to be accurate, had a mile racetrack. The back stretch and the home stretch extended north and south, and the back stretch was close to this lane. The first turn was south … was close to West Eighth Street. This racetrack was used over a period of years. Eben Stewart did not personally have any resources as I remember it. But his son, John Stewart, who had a livery stable and [4:00] his livery stable faced on West Eighth between Olive and Willamette, generally had one or more harness horses.\n\nContinuing on out, what was … we now know is West Eighth Street, the east line of the Huddleston property extended south for some distance. I don't recall whether the Huddleston property went south of what we now know as Eleventh Street, but my best recollection is that it did. I may be mistaken in that respect.\n\nWhat we now know is West Eighth Street Park [5:00] … West Eighth Street was a county road after it got beyond the city limits and West Eighth Street continued on to what we now know as Chamber Street. If one desired to go to Lorane, he would have to travel out Eighth Street … or what's now Eighth Street. And he would travel to what is now known as Chambers Street and go south to what is now known as Eleventh Street and then go west beyond what used to be the brickyard and then go south, and over the Bailey Hill and so on into Lorane.\n\nTugman: And if you were going to Junction City, Judge?\n\nHarris: If he were going to Junction City, he would turn off at what we now know as Blair Street. Blair Street did not extend south of what we now know [6:00] as West Eighth Street. If one was going to Junction City, he would go west either on West Eighth Street or out on West Hill Street. There was a strip of land owned by a man of the name of O. Q. Courtwright, and his land was bounded on the west by what we now know as Chamber Street. My recollection is that this strip was in width the equivalent of somewhere between a half a block and a block. Then all of that area that was between the west line of the Courtwright property and the [7:00] lane that I spoke about, which was the west line … or the east line of Huddleston, was owned in part by Huddleston and in part by my father. My recollection is that about one half or the west half … the east half of that area, between the Courtwright property and the lane that went south, was owned by Huddleston, and my father owned the west half of it. My father had a half -mile track, and that half -mile track was so constructed that the back stretch was close to what is now West Eighth Street, and the home stretch paralleled it, running east and west, and off, of course, of the backstretch. The first turn [8:00] would be the east end of the track, and the second turn would be the west end of the track. My father had a string of box stalls that he used for his own purposes. Then he had a string of box stalls just opposite that was for the use of anyone else who wanted to use the track. In those days, there were several men who were interested in running horses, and a few men who made their living … practically made their living out of running horses. There were not very many men who had any harness horses besides my father's out at this racetrack.\n\nI don't remember how long my father used that racetrack, but my recollection is it's only a few years and then he bought some land out [9:00] northeast of town from a man the name of Stevens that is generally known as the game farm. He built a mile track there. He didn't have that but for a short time, and he bought some land out west of town, 160 acres, and he built a mile track there. And that track, the site of that track is now where … what is known as the Gilbert Additions, Irving, or, or, or it's this.\n\nTugman: That's out in what we call the Bethel area, I believe. The Gilbert addition is what we now know as Bethel.\n\nHarris: I think that's included in the Bethel area.\n\nTugman: Then I think you mentioned one time there was still another racetrack near where the Old Eugene High School, what's now the Woodrow Wilson junior high school,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=27060.0,29400.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is on Seventeenth and the Amazon, or in there.\n\nHarris: Immediately south, what we know is the Amazon, and next to Willamette Street, there was a half mile track that was owned and built by John Stewart. There is a house over on the west side of Willamette Street and the last house on the west side of Willamette Street going south, was owned by a man the name of Whitney, he was a minister. This track … this half -mile track … was built in the black dolby soil. It might be of interest to say that in 1894, spring of 18 … no, fall of 1894, a football game was played by the University of Oregon team and Forest Grove … or Forest Grove College,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29400.0,29460.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or whatever that institution is. And, uh, I didn’t see the game. I was at Ann Arbor that year. But I’ve been told by a good many people who saw the game, that you couldn't recognize one man from another because of the black dolby that was all over them, for because in the wintertime it was tough. Once in a while, somebody says that's the first game football has ever played by the University of Oregon but that's not correct. The first game of football was ever played the University of Oregon was played on March 24, 1894, for University of Oregon team in Albany College.\n\nTugman: I think Cal Young coached that team.\n\nHarris: He was the coach, yes sir.\n\nTugman: Uh, I've often wondered, I've asked Cal several times if he could tell me just how he qualified as a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29460.0,29520.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"football coach. And Cal says that's a great secret, do you know?\n\nHarris: Yes. Cal Young attended Bishop Scott's Academy for some time, and they played football at Bishop Scott's Academy. And there was nobody else in this area who had ever played football except Cal Young, when Oregon had its first team. That's the explanation for Cal Young being coach.\n\nTugman: Good. Well, now, Judge, you mentioned these tracks which they had around the town. As I get it, they were used largely … a large part of the time for training purposes. Were there ever any races actually held here in Eugene?\n\nHarris: Yes, there were races, but most of the real genuine races were between the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29520.0,29580.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"running horses. There was a fellow by the name of Bony Lytle, who had generated two or three or four good running horses. And there were a couple of brothers who owned among other horses, a horse called Bingo. Now, he was a splendid mile horse. Some of the runners were quarter, quarter mile horses, others were mile horses. Once in a while, you'd see … if you would encounter a quarter mile horse, it wouldn't be any good for … except for a quarter mile.\n\nTugman: Did these … were these race meets like what we have today or were they more or less\n\nprivate matches?\n\nHarris: Well, as a matter of fact, there weren't any race meets","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29580.0,29640.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to speak of, such as you are used to now. These horses that were in training would be taken to the state fair, and if there was a fair someplace else or a race meeting someplace else they would take them there. I remember when I was a youngster … and working in between school … terms of school, I'd work in the summertime out in the racetrack. We went out south with my father's horses. They had a fair out there, Roseburg. And, uh, of course, the prize money didn't amount to much, but it was something.\n\nTugman: Did they have any betting on the races those days?\n\nHarris: Oh, yes. Oh, yes, they … they bet. Most of the betting that I knew of in this area was just private betting. There was nobody selling paris mutuals","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29640.0,29700.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or selling pools. That was just bets on the side.\n\nTugman: And a bettor had to know a little bit about horse flesh.\n\nHarris: Yes, he didn't. He was just gambling and more … went more ways than one.\n\nTugman: Well, now you told us last week about the high-wheeled bicycle. I wish you'd tell the people something about the high-wheeled sulkies that you used for training your trotting horses.\n\nHarris: When my father began with harness horses, the sulky was a high-wheeled sulky with iron rims. There was no such thing as a pneumatic powered sulky. There was no such thing even as a … as a rubber-tired sulky to begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29700.0,29760.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the sulky, as originally made, was … did not describe a U from wheel to wheel. It was curved some, nevertheless it was nearer straight than it was like a U. Later on, came a high-wheeled stulky with rubber tires. And the idea of making a U out of the axle from wheel to wheel developed. And then finally developed the present sulky with the low wheels. Just like the bicycle developed. When the first bicycle was … was … the front wheel and the rear wheel made the same size, it was put on the market, it was called a safety bicycle, because as compared with a high-wheeled bicycle, that is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29760.0,29820.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a bicycle with a front high wheel and a small rear wheel, this new bicycle was safe … you could run into a chuck hole and you wouldn't take a header, whereas you'd take a header if you had a high-wheeled bicycle.\n\nTugman: Well now …\n\nHarris: … so the same development in the sulkies.\n\nTugman: These old high-wheeled sulkies were rather bouncy, weren't they?\n\nHarris: Yes, they were.\n\nTugman: I think you were telling me about somebody training a horse and losing all his money.\n\nHarris: Well, in those days, we didn't have paper money. I just, to speak of, we called it a greenback. Nobody wanted greenbacks. They spurned greenbacks. They wanted coin. And the money consisted of gold and silver. The gold pieces, $20, $10, $5 pieces. The silver, dollar pieces, and then the denominations, as we use now,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29820.0,29880.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are half a dollar, two bits, ten cents. The dollar pieces were generally called Hogue Dollars, that was the name the public generally gave to it, Hogue Dollars. John Stewart, one day, was driving him … one of his horses, around the track on his father's track, Stewart track, and he had some Hogue dollars in his pocket. And he had a high-wheeled sulky, it wasn't a rubber-tired sulky, and of course it bounced a good deal, and the dollars bounced out of his pocket. And there were some kids around there, and the kids went around the track and picked up his dollars. He didn't get them all back, but he got most of them back.\n\nTugman: I think you were telling me that you had little experience with the horse that you were training.\n\nHarris: Well, that was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29880.0,29940.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the half a mile track I was telling you about. I was driving a colt, and the colt … I didn't have any kicking straps on it. And the colt comkmenced to kick, and every time he'd kick, he'd hit the axel and bounce me up, and I bounced out. Colt went through a fence and tore loose from the sulky, and that is it.\n\nTugman: What did your dad say about that?\n\nHarris: Oh, no …\n\nTugman: Nothing much.\n\nHarris: Oh, no …\n\nTugman: It happens to the best of them. Well, now, I think you should get clear that at this time, Fifth Street and Eighth Street alone were the through roads, that’s correct.\n\nHarris: That's right. If people wanted to go north, they would take the Fifth Street Road or the Eighth Street Road","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=29940.0,30000.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they would travel what we now know as Blair Street until they got out to the railroad and then they would turn to the left and go west until they got to what was then known as the Henderson House and they’d turn to the right and go through what's now known as the Southern Pacific Yards. The people didn't travel any river roads such as they travel now if they were going to Junction. The road was through Irving, and in order to get through the old road was just as I've indicated.\n\nTugman: And even Willamette Street did not go south much beyond Thirteenth Street.\n\nHarris: The last house on South Willamette Street in the west side was the Whitney Home. There was not another house on the south side of what we now know as Willamette Street until you got out to where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30000.0,30060.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about where KORE station is. A man with the name of Waters came from Iowa. He was a horseman, too. And he built a house there. And my recollection is there was not another solitary house between the Whitney home and … the old or … where the corner is that turns off to go to … to go to Lorane. There wasn't another solitary house according to my recollection at that time on the west side of Willamette Street.\n\nTugman: But there was no road then to Lorane out Willamette.\n\nHarris: No, No.\n\nTugman: In other words, you had to go out Eighth Street …\n\nHarris: … you had to go out Eighth Street to get there.\n\nTugman: And out Fifth Street, if you wanted to go either to Junction City or Lorane.\n\nHarris: Well, you'd go either … you'd go Eighth Street if you wanted to go to Lorane.\n\nTugman: And going south, you'd use Eighth Street again, that old Eighth Street county road ….\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: … and that went out and wound around and went through Judkins Point and then headed on south.\n\nHarris: Here … no, if I was going south, yes, you'd use the Eighth Street road or Eighth Street in order to get to the county road. Now in the very earliest day, if you wanted to go to Springfield or to go on to go to Roseburg, why you’d go out East Eighth street, cross the railroad track, and when you got across the railroad track, the turn to the right, the road paralleled, the railroad track, until you got to Judkins … a little beyond the Judkins point, and then you'd turn to the left and go down the river bottom and go on. You could, however …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30060.0,30180.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you could, you could go to Springfield out Eleventh Street, but Thirteenth Street was just a street of mud. Nobody traveled it in the earlier days. Tenth Street didn't go through. Ninth Street in the very earliest days didn't go through … it was a dead end there at Haines’s place.\n\nTugman: Now when we came … when we drove down this afternoon, we came in over East Broadway, as it's now called. It was Ninth Street until people got fancy about 25 years ago and changed it to Broadway.* Now, you were describing to me some of the places in and around what's now Broadway, Franklin Boulevard, where the ice plant is.\n\n* This change occurred in 1927. See “Change in Name for Ninth Avenue Sought,” Morning Register, August 16, 1927, p.1, Col 7; “Name Broadway Not Liked,” Morning Register, August 21, 1927, p.16, Col 3; “Broadway!” Eugene Guard, August 22, 1927, p.4, Col 1; Change of Name for Ninth Avenue Asked,” Morning Register, August 23, 1927, p.10, Col 1; Merchants to Aid Broadway Project,” Eugene Guard, August 24, 1927, p.10, Col 3; Church Heads in Favor of Street Name Change,” Morning Register, August 25, 1927, p.3. Col 1; “In Part, We Agree,” Eugene Guard, August 25, 1927, p.4, Col 1; “Council to Hear Broadway Request,” Eugene Guard, September 8, 1927, p.1, Col 7; “Widening of Broadway is Urged by M’Cully,” Morning Register, September 13, 1927, p.12, Col 1; “Name of Ninth Avenue Changed to Broadway,” Morning Register, September 27, 1927, p.12, Col 1; “Broadway Celebration Program is Approved,” Morning Register, October 20, 1927, p.14, Col 1.\n\nHarris: That property was the residential property of Mr. Haines. His residential property extended from the railroad","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30180.0,30240.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about the equivalent of a block west. His house stood just about in the center of that area. His tannery was over on the easterly side of the railroad. The railroad has since been changed in the location of it.\n\nTugman: And it was near that tannery, I think you told us, that the boys had their swimming holes.\n\nHarris: Yeah, the Little Hole, it was just north of the tannery. And the old Swift Slough, that was before the river ran through there.\n\nTugman: Now coming on in over what we call East Broadway or in your boyhood, Ninth Street, will you name some of the old landmark residences that used to be there?\n\nHarris: There's a … there was the W. H. Abrams residence/ The site of that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30240.0,30300.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"residence is now a motel. The original residence building, constructed by Abrams probably in the 1870s, was moved across the street and is standing just about opposite where it originally was. At the northeast corner of the intersection of High and East Broadway, is the site of the residence of George T. Hall. Over on the south side of Broadway, and next to the old mill race, and where a  motel now stands, is the site of the William Campbell home. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30300.0,30360.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before you reach the mill race, coming west on High is the J .J. Lorton home, which was a pioneer home. Going on to High Street again, or close to High Street, Stuggie Elsworth, a lawyer, had his office on the north side … south side of East Broadway. The building that he used is now over on Eighth Street between High and Pearl, and on the south side of the street. At the north west corner of High and East Broadway is where the Baptist Church now stands. That quarter","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30360.0,30420.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"block was owned and is the site of the residence of Mark Bailey, who was one of the professors st the University of Oregon, and my recollection is that he was one of the very first professors. The quarter block that is immediately west of the Bailey property, and is the northeast corner of the intersection of East Broadway and Pearl Street was the property of Chris Marks, a barber. Coming back to the southwest corner of the intersection of High and west … or east of Broadway, there was a quarter block that was owned by Aubry, a man by the name of Aubry. His residence was nearer the south side of his property and faced High Street. The north half","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30420.0,30480.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the property that he owned was low … lower than the south half. At the corners now occupied by the Eugene Hotel was a livery stable building used for many years for livery stable purposes, and the ground that is immediately west of … east of it was used in connection with the livery stable.\n\nLater on, a man by the name of Rothstein moved Eugene and he conducted a second hand store in that building for quite a while. Rothstein bought probably out on College Hill, made College Hill his home for some time. The Rothstein Addition to Eugene was an addition that was platted by his son. Coming across the street","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30480.0,30540.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the northwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Ninth, is the location of the Christian Church. It was a brick church and faced Broadway. Immediately west of that property, and indeed all the property that was between the alley that was running north and south through the block, and the Christian Church property, was the property of Harrison R. Kincaid. Kincaid published a newspaper and the newspaper building was a brick building, one-story building,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30540.0,30600.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and immed … and adjoined the alley that runs north and south through that fraction of a block. The portion of the block that's west … was west of … across the alley and west from the Kincaid property, in the early days, there was a house stood just about in the middle of that fraction of a block. And the people who lived in that house … the name was Theimer, T -H-E -I -M -E -R. They were two boys, young boys. And those two boys were drowned in the Willamette River at a point in the old U","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30600.0,30660.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was formed by the Willamette River when it made its turn, after it left near Judkins Point to go north and then come back above Ferry Street Bridge. I remember that in particular the drowning of those two boys because Mrs. Theimer was a hard-working woman and people felt awfully sorry for her and the two boys were extraordinarily fine boys.\n\nOn the south side of the block between Pearl and Oak Street and on East Broadway, there was a house in the southwest corner of Pearl and Broadway. And that for many","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30660.0,30720.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years was occupied by Al Auten. Al Auten ran a cigar store and one thing and another down in the same building that was formerly occupied by D. G. Hendricks in the … when he had a store.\n\nThe area that's now occupied by what originally was known as the Miner Building that's now known as Eugene Medical Center. And the buildings immediately west of the Eugene Center Medical Building was a quarter block that was owned by Matt Hendricks, who was a brother of D. G. Hendricks. Matt Hendricks’ home stood about in the center of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30720.0,30720.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the west half of that quarter block … oh the east half of quarter block. I remember his woodshed was right next to the alley that runs north and south. He dealt in farming implements. During the earlier years, he had his store down on the corner where Gabe Crissman, after his built … constructed the building, now is known as Penney’s, or the old Washman Place. The Thorn and Washman Store. And then later on, Matt Hendricks had his implement business where the Economy Market stands at the corner of … be the southeast corner of Oak and East Broadway.\n\nReel 10\n\nHarris: [0:00] The northwest corner of East Broadway and Oak Street was, according to my earliest recollection, a one-story wooden building owned by John Reinhardt, who conducted a grocery store. Later on, he transformed that building into a theater building and the building where … with a room in it where dances could be held. Reinhardt's home was over on Pearl and Tenth Street at the corner, the northwest corner of the intersection of East Tenth and Pearl Street. Next to the [1:00] Reinhardt building was a building in which Ed Poole conducted a restaurant in prinicpally oysters and candies and the like. M. S. Barker, who passed on recently, had his first store in the building that was immediately west of the room that was occupied by Ed Poole.\n\nTugman: That's Mr. Barker, the man, the, you .. had musical instruments?\n\nHarris: That's right. He had a gun store, originally. The man by the name of Risen, who was a pioneer here, constructed a building right next to the alley. It would be on the west … east side [2:00] of the alley that runs north and south, and on the north side of East Broadway between Oak and Willamette, and that building was used for various purposes. I remember distinctly when we first moved to Eugene in 1878, there was a bakery right next to that alley. That bakery was operated by Ed Howe. It is the space that's now occupied by the Gilbert Shoe Store. Immediately west of that building was the Patterson \u0026 Muir Meat Shop, and then there was a vacant space between there … the meat shop and what was originally the St. Gerard’s Hotel, now known as the [3:00] Hoffman House. What … or that vacant space, or that space that was the vacant space, is now occupied by Newman's Fish Place.\n\nOver on the south side of the street, the southeast corner of the intersection was where Cy Titus had his livery stable. In later years, he constructed the building that stands there now, known as the Titus Building. Right next to the livery stable that Cy Titus owned, according to my earliest recollection, was the tailor shop. It was run by old man Hansen, who was the father of Frank and Ed Hansen. Then, immediately [4:00] east of the Hansen Tailor Shop was the office of Dr. Patterson. Dr. Patterson's home was on East Eleventh Street, and he owned all of the block that was south of the mill race and north of Eleventh Street, and between the Zyrecolective (?) Order and Mill Streets. And then next to the alley, at a very early date, a brick building was constructed. And my recollection is that that building was constructed by Camp Gray. [5:00] Across the alley were properties that were owned by the Franks, Ray Frank and his bro … not Ray Frank but Harry Frank and Clem Frank. Those buildings were constructed … those brick buildings were constructed in an early day, and were occupied by different parties.\n\nTugman: Now, that … that brings you back to Oak Street, then on the south side of Ninth Street.\n\nHarris: Yes.\n\nTugman: Now going west … going west from Willamette on Ninth Street or Broadway as it's now called. Can you give us some of the landmarks there?\n\nHarris: Well, the first building of course there's a Tom Hendricks property where the First National Bank now is [6:00] … I’ve spoken about that before … where he had his store before there was a bank. Then, at the northeast corner of Oak and West Broadway, was property which, at one time, was owned by Tim Houdas, that old quarter block. His son, Will Houdas, told me the other day that his father purchased that quarter block for $3,000. Sam Friendly, upon being told by Houdas that Houdas had purchased it for three thousand. Sam told him that he'd given four thousand for it. Well, there was a residence right in the … right close to the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak and the West Broadway. [7:00] And then, when … that property was sold by Houdas to Eli Bangs. Bangs constructed the livery stable, and the livery stable was right across the alley from what is now the rear of the First National Bank. The livery stable faced East Broadway. My recollection is that it extended clear back to or pretty near to the alley. And the rest of the space in that quarter block was vacant. And it was low ground.\n\nOver on the other side of the street, at the north … at the southwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Broadway, there was property that was owned by a G. R. Chrisman, Gabe Crissman. He constructed a two-story brick building there. [8:00] There was no other building here on that side of the street to the alley between Willamette Street and the alley west … going … as you traveled west.\n\nAt the southeast corner of the intersection of Oak and West Broadway, was a brewery, originally operated by a man by the name of Vogel, Joe Vogel. And over the course of time that was sold to the Weinhardt Brewery interests. The brewery property, when owned by Vogel, was … or had two buildings on it. One was the brewery proper, and the other was his residence. The residence stood right at the southeast corner of the intersection of Broadway and Oak.\n\nGoing on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Oak and [9:00] West Broadway, was the old Cameron home. And west of that, next to the alley, was a home occupied by Gainey Matthews. And across the alley, the quarter block was owned by F. M. Wilkins. I remember the first home that Wilkins had on that quarter block was a small building, two stories. There simply were walls and the east-shaped roof. And then along in somewhere in about 1905, thereabouts, he constructed a fine residential building and occupied the building until, I think, practically until he passed on.\n\nTugman: That was the beautiful old home that stood there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=30720.0,33000.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until a few years ago with the wide porches and the beautiful trees in the yard.\n\nHarris: That’s right, that’s it.\n\nTugman: And, of course, Mr. Wilkins having a family of beautiful daughters would have to have a nice home with porches.\n\nHarris: Well, I don't know what the reason was. He was a druggist, and he had done well as a druggist … had a fine family, and he was a fine man.\n\nAcross the street, where the public market now stands, that corner was originally a livery stable. And later years, and when I say later years, I mean along about 1895 or 6, somewhere in there, one of the Crane brothers purchased the property","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33000.0,33060.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and constructed the residence on it and subsequently it was purchased by J. M. Williams, the lawyer. And that whole quarter block now is used by the public market. Immediately west of that quarter block was property that was owned and occupied by a man by the name of Hannah.\n\nProceeding on west at the northwest corner of the intersection of Charnelton Street and West Broadway is the site of the … the site of the home of D. G. Hendricks. He owned that area from High Street … not High Street, but Charnelton Street, clear back to what is now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33060.0,33120.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lincoln Street. My earliest recollection is that … what is now known as Broadway, was a dead end, where … when you reach the point, it is now known as Lincoln Street. When my parents came to Eugene in 1878, the building that stood at the southwest corner of the intersection of Charnelton and East Broadway was the Sam Hote … Hote property, a fine two-story residential building. And my parents lived in a building that was immediately west of that.\n\nTugman: You were telling me, Judge, about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33120.0,33180.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an interesting little episode that happened on the boardwalk crossing at Charnelton and Ninth Street, right in front of what is now the public market.\n\nHarris: In those days and … which would be somewhere between 1878 and 1880, there was no such thing as a paved street. There was no such thing as a paved … as a concrete sidewalk. All the sidewalks were made of wood. The crosswalks on the street were made of heavy plank. And as a rule, a crosswalk was made of three lengths of heavy plank. The middle length would be so laid that the surface would be practically on a level with the surface of the road, of the gravel in the road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33180.0,33240.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as a rule, the lengths that were between the middle length and the sidewalk on each side, would be … they would not be on the ground, but they would be … the underneath surface of the planks would be above the ground.\n\nMy mother and her sister had been downtown on this occasion. They took me along. I was a youngster somewhere between five and seven years old. And when we came back, I got across the middle length of plank. My mother grabbed me. I didn't know what it was all about, but she grabbed me because there was a rattlesnake there between the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33240.0,33300.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sidewalk, and about the middle of the planks that were on the west side of the road … of the street. There was a man unloading some wood next to the livery stable that used to be there on … where the public market is, and my mother and her sister hollered at him, and he came over and killed the rattlesnake. Later on in the day, my father came by, and … and … uh, he cut the rattles off and there were eight rattles. It developed that the man had been hauling … had been hauling some hay a couple of days before that from the Spencer Creek area where there's lots of rattlesnakes. It was assumed that this rattlesnake was hauled in on that load of hay, or on one load of hay. \n\nTugman: [Clears throat] Now, Judge, can you take us over onto Tenth Street and give us some of the old","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33300.0,33360.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"landmarks there?\n\nHarris: Well, we'll go back to High Street and go west. At the south … northwest corner of the intersection of High and East Tenth, the quarter block was owned by J. H. McClellan. His residence stood on that location. He was a partner of A. J. Johnson, it was McClellan and Johnson. They conducted a dry goods store at the corner where the Tiffany building is now on Willamette Street. The quarter block that stood on the northeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Tenth was owned by J. S. Lucky, Joe Lucky. As I explained to you, he married one of the daughters of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33360.0,33420.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elias or … Elias Stewart, commonly known as Eben Stewart. Joe Lucky was a jeweler. He lived there in that location for a great many years. There was … across the street from the Lucky property, and at the southeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Tenth, was the home of A. V. Peters. A. V. Peters was a Frenchman. He came to this country according to my recollection, along about the end of the Civil War, which would be in the latter part of the 18 … or be about 1865, 1866. He constructed a home at the corner across the street and south of … the … where Joe Lucky lived,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33420.0,33480.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the place where Joe Lucky lived is now occupied by the Greyhound Stages. I'm not sure as to the date when A .V. Peters con- … built his home, but it must have been either in the late 1860s or the very early 1870s. The residence which he constructed at that location was moved over to Lincoln Street. And it is now known as 1616 Lincoln Street and is the home of Judge C. A. Wintermeier.\n\nThe northwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Tenth was the site","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33480.0,33540.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the old John Reinhardt residence and the quarter block at the northeast corner of Oak and East Tenth was the home of Charles Coner, a pioneer. Over at the … going back, rather, to the southwest corner of Pearl and East Tenth was the home of a man by the name of Stansbury. He lived there for a great many years. Over a course of good many years, there were always three or four students who roomed at the Stansbury home. Stansbury's daughter","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33540.0,33600.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maggie married Bill Campbell, who built a home up on East Ninth Street near what used to be the mill race. Bill Campbell was a brother of John Campbell and Irie Campbell.\n\nTugman: The Campbells were publishers of one of the newspapers, is that right?\n\nHarris: John Campbell and Irie Campbell published the Eugene Guard. Now, coming on west on East Tenth, man by name of Potom (?) lived at the northwest corner of that intersection. Next to him, and west of him, John O 'Brien, who married a daughter of Cy Titus, had his home. John Brown … John","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33600.0,33660.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"O 'Brien was the section foreman of the section crew, Southern Pacific section crew, that … in those days, the section crew consisted of China- …Chinamen and nobody else.\n\nOver on the southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and East Tenth, was where Bob Newett Johnson lived. He was a brick mason. And next to him, and west of him, was the home of a man by the name of Dew Rant. Then at the southeast corner of the intersection of East Tenth and Willamette was the home of Sam Friendly, and in … south of him, and facing Willamette Street, was the home of George V. Dorris. George V. Dorris' home is still in existence. When we go home, I'll show it to you when we go.\n\nOver on the west side of Willamette,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33660.0,33720.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and on Tenth Street, which would be at the northwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Tenth, was the Swift home. A family, the name of Swift, lived on that corner many years. And students boarded and roomed at the Swift Home for a good many years. In … I think close to about 1900 … may have been a little after that, a building was constructed at that corner. And the building that had been used as the Swift Home was moved back to … next to the alley, and it stood there for many years. It's only been a few years ago when an addition, a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33720.0,33780.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brick building addition, was made to the original structure. And the Swift … the old Swift home was destroyed. Over in the southwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West Tenth is where the original Methodist Church stood. The original Methodist Church was a long building with a tower at the west end … the east end, and it faced Willamette Street. In due course of time, and my recollection is that it was prior to 1900, that building was moved over on the corner, the northeast corner, of East Eleventh and Willamette Street, and was used as the Catholic Church. The original Methodist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33780.0,33840.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"building … the original Methodist Church building … was moved so that they could construct a new building. And the new Methodist Church building was constructed at the southwest corner of West Tenth and Willamette  Street. It was used for a very considerable time and until the present Methodist Church was constructed.\n\nThe northwest corner of the intersection of West Tenth and Olive Streets, where the Masonic building now is … was the property of … and residence of … S. M. Yoran. The …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33840.0,33900.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"property that was immediately west of the S. M Yoran home, and across the alley going west was vacant property for many years.\n\nOn the south side of East … West Tenth, between Olive and Charnelton, there was the home of Fred Bellman, and the rest of that block was for much of the time vacant. Proceeding on west on Tenth Street at the corner of … the northwest corner of West Tenth and Charnelton Street was the home of ex-Governor Whitaker, and immediately across the street from him was the home which Eni Holt originally built and was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33900.0,33960.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"afterwards acquired by G. R. Crissman. Immediately west of the Crissman property was the home of Mr. Osborne. I have forgotten his initials. However, he was the father of the man after whom the Osborne Hotel was named. What originally was the Eni Holt property and subsequently the G. R. Crissman property, and the adjoining property owned by Osborne, is now owned by the Catholic Church, and they have there … into their buildings and playgrounds on those properties. West Tenth Street","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=33960.0,34020.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was a dead end just as West Ninth Street was, and it did not, in the early days, proceed beyond the Osborne property or, stated differently, it did not proceed beyond that point that is now about where Lincoln Street is.\n\nGoing over to the north … north side of Tenth Street again, the University of Oregon was opened in 1876. John W. Johnson was the first president. My parents lived, as I've stated before, immediately west of the Sam Holt property and the … residence occupied by my parents faced West Ninth Street …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=34020.0,34080.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West Ninth Street. I am not sure whether there was an alley running east and west through that block at that time. I'm doubtful as whether … to whether there was one.\n\nHowever, immediately south of the place where my parents had their home was a residential building and that building stood in behind the Whitaker home and this building that stood in behind the Whitaker home was the home of John W. Johnson at that time.\n\nTugman: He was also a neighbor when you lived down in the vicinity of Fifth Street, too,\n\nwasn't he?\n\nHarris: Yes, yes.\n\nTugman: Well, now you've given us quite a picture of the town of that period of merchants and lawyers, doctors,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=34080.0,34140.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"livery stable people, a great many livery stable people, printers, artisans. What was considered … what was considered a good annual income in those days?\n\nHarris: Well, I would not be a competent judge by any means, as to that question, until … I had … attained the age of at least 18 or 19 or 20 years. But I just don't know, haven’t the slightest idea.\n\nTugman: You have any idea what, for instance, our college professors were paid those days?\n\nHarris: No, I don't have any information from that subject.\n\nTugman: What … what I'm trying to get at is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=34140.0,34200.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to get a picture of the economy of the … of the town. Of course it stands to reason they had much less money income than we have, but a great deal of equivalent comfort and satisfaction\n\nHarris: Well, the people generally lived comfortably as be measured by the standards of those days. They had food, they had clothing, and they’re … if they became sick, medical attention was available. But, of course, they did not have many of the things which nowadays are considered necessary.\n\nReel 11\n\nHarris: [0:00] We now stand at the intersection of Tenth and Willamette Street. At the southwest corner of the intersection of West Tenth and Willamette Street was the original Methodist Church. It was a long building, one story in height, and had a square tower at the west end … east end, the east end. This building faced Willamette Street. In due course of time, the building was removed to the northeast corner of the intersection of Eleventh and Willamette Street. And it was there used by the Catholic … as the Catholic Church. The building was acquired by the Catholic Church, period. [1:00] The Methodists constructed a new building at the southwest corner of the intersection of Tenth and Willamette Street, and they occupied that as the church until they built the present Methodist Church building. There was no building on that quarter block south of the Methodist Church that I recall. However, in the quarter block, which would be the northwest corner of the intersection of Eleventh and Willamette Street was a building that was known as the Blaine place … family the name of Blaine lived in it. It was built [2:00] a good deal like some of the colonial buildings in the south.\n\nThe northwest corner of the … northwest corner of the intersection of Eleventh and  Willamette was later occupied by a church constructed by the Christian Church … the Christian Church. The original Christian Church was a brick building at the northwest corner of East Ninth and Pearl. And the second building occupied by the Christian Church was this building that was at the northwest corner of Eleventh and Willamette.\n\n[3:00] Going over on the east side of the block between Ninth … between Tenth and Eleventh, at the southeast corner of the intersection of Tenth and Eleventh was the S. H. Friendly home. The home faced Willamette Street. In the south half of that quarter block,and facing Willamette Street, was the George V. Dorris home. An alley, then as now, ran east and west. And on the south side of that alley, for a long time, was a vacant space. As I stated before, the building that was originally the Methodist Church was moved to that quarter block and was used as a Catholic Church. The Catholic Church constructed between [4:00] the church building and the alley, a two-story building, and used it as a school, as I recollected.\n\nThe first priest in the Catholic Church in Eugene was Father Beck, and he lived in a little house that was on the south side of Willamette Street between Oak and Willamette Street … the south side of Eleventh Street between Oak and Willamette. Later on, Father Shabelsky succeeded Father Beck and Father Shabelsky lived in a house that was on the north side of the street and immediately east of the church. Father Shabelsky was a highly educated man and could speak, read, and write seven languages as I recollected. [5:00] At any rate, he was a very interesting personality. He spelled his name P-R-C-Y-B-L-S-K-I, but pronounced it Shibelsky.\n\nStanding at the intersection of Eleventh and Willamette Street, and looking to the right, was the original public school. The public school building occupied the north half of the block, bounded on the north by Eleventh, and on the east by Willamette and the west by Olive Street. Next to the public school property and facing Willamette Street was the home of F. W. Osborne, and on down Willamette Street a little ways is where Tom Seager lived. The house that was the farthest south on Willamette Street was known [6:00] … was the property of Reverend Whitney, a minister. The house was just this side of what we now know as Amazon Slough. There were a few houses over on the east side of the street between the Eleventh and a point in front of the Whitney Place, but not very many. At the corner where now stands the city library was the home of Captain Gray. And he later on disposed of that property by selling it to the Hoffman boys, Henry and James. And Henry and James then later on moved down into the Piddock Block here on [7:00] Willamette Street between Ninth and Eighth.\n\nThere was no … there was not a single building on Willamette Street south of the Whitney property until you reached what is now the KORE station. A man by name of Waters came here from Iowa and built a home in that … just about that place. And there was no house on the east side of Willamette Street, as I remember it there, if you cross what is now known as Amazon Slough until you got clear off to the Blanton place. That's the story there.\n\nTugman: Judge, can you tell us something about some of these early families, for instance, some of these early Jewish families in Eugene?\n\nHarris: [8:00] The Charles Lauer family included E. H. Lauer, commonly known as Manny. He and I were classmates in the University of Oregon, and included the eldest daughter, Carrie, who, after was married to a man named Saul Baum in Portland. And there were a couple of other girls. The Lauer family was a splendid family. The … their home was the scene of occasional parties. And the same was true of the S. H. Framp … S. H. Friendly family. They had parties, the youngsters did, and the young folks, there were several girls [9:00] in the S .H. Framp, S .H. Friendly family, and the Goldsmith family likewise. There's Charles and Julius and several girls, and these three Jewish families were the principal Jewish families in town. The Bettmans were Jewish, but they had one youngster and my recollection is that he came after my earlier days. But those families were among the most prominent families in Eugene. People didn't pay any attention to racial distinctions. There was no such thing as classes. Everybody stood on his or her own feet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=34200.0,36600.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and, uh, it just simply wasn't any more pleasant, sociable and agreeable place to go than either the Friendlies or the Lauers or the Goldsmiths.\n\nTugman: Now Willamette Street had no pavement, just a rock and dirt surface in those days.\n\nHarris: Yes, yes. The first pavement in Eugene was made of basaltic rock taken out of the west end of the Skinner's Butte. And that's why when you go up Skinner's Butte on that road, you see that quarry on the west end of the Butte. And the first paving operations, the rock that was used came from that basalt, but it was found not to be as satisfactory","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=36600.0,36660.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as the material they use now.\n\nTugman: Was that crushed by hand or did they have mechanical crushers?\n\nHarris: I don't know about that. I don't think it was crushed by hands. I think it … I can't be sure about that, but I think it was done by a machine of some kind.\n\nTugman: Did they have dust trouble in those days on the streets?\n\nHarris: Yes, they … the way they did. They'd have mud in the winter. And then they'd clean that mud off as soon towards the spring as they could. Then they'd haul gravel on it. And then whenever dust bothered them, why they had a sprinkler, a sprinkling lane, drawn by horses, drive it up and down the street, and sprinkle the street. Had to.\n\nTugman: What about the street lighting system [Twelfth:00] in that?\n\nHarris: Well, they had lamps at the corner. I remember that there was a lamp at the corner of the Ollie Humphrey (?) Bank, that'd be the northwest corner of the intersection of Eighth and Willamette, and there was a lamp down at what we now know as Ninth Street. And I think there was a lamp at Seventh and Willamette also. According to my recollection, there weren't any lamps at all except on Willamette Street. I don't recall any other lamps being in a place else. I don't remember what year our electric lighting system came in, but probably it was somewhere along about 85, 1886, somewhere in there. But until that time, it was a lamp system.\n\nTugman: I suppose every family had lanterns people carried lanterns when they went out.\n\nHarris: [Thirteenth:00] Oh yes, everybody had lanterns.\n\nTugman: What about the … the trading system? Now these stores … there are more stores here than could exist on the number of people in the town. There must have been quite a wide trade with the outside country.\n\nHarris: In those days, horse and buggy days, Saturdays were the days when people from the farms came to town to do their trading. And the area from which people came was large, because they didn't have stores in every little crossroad … every crossroad … had but few stores outside of places like Eugene, Irving, Springfield, and Junction City,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=36660.0,36840.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Goshen. People had to come to town to do their trading, and the farmers made it their business to come to town on Saturdays.\n\nTugman: Well, now was it largely a cash or credit or a seasonal payment?\n\nHarris: Well, I wouldn't know anything about that, I mean, from actual experience, but my idea about it is that the farmers, probably in a large measure, did their trading on the credit basis because their income was seasonal. They'd have to wait until the crops were sold before they'd have the money.\n\nTugman: So that in those days, a man's word was his bond as the saying …\n\nHarris: Absolutely, absolutely.\n\nReel Twelfth\n\nHarris: [0:00] When we talked about it last Sunday, at the now … at the southwest corner of the intersection of Hilyard and East Broadway is where E. C. Smith lived. E. C. Smith and George D. Hall, partners of Smith and Hall, for a great many years carried on a grocery store in Eugene, and a building that recently … that until recently and for some time, was occupied by Kerry. Immediately west of the Smith place was a home occupied by Mrs. Beatty and her two daughters. I … [1:00] Laura Beatty was one daughter, Jenny Beatty was the other daughter. The two daughters attended the university and graduated there. I married Jenny Beatty in 1904. This block, and on this south side of the street, is the block where the W. H. Abrams home was moved. Originally, the Abrams home stood on the north side of the street.\n\nAt the southwest corner of the intersection of Hilyard … no, Patterson and East Broadway is the site of a home that E. R. Lucky built. [2:00] This was a large home. E. R. Lucky was a brother of J. S. Lucky and a brother of Warren Lucky. E. R. Lucky had been in the cattle business in east … eastern Oregon and he had prospered, and he came to Eugene … my recollection is in the latter part of the 1880s. It may have been in the early part of the 1890s. They … there were two boys, Walter and Ted, and a daughter who became very distinguished. Ted Lucky operated to the Lucky Cigar Store for a long time in Eugene, and he has passed on and his son is now the operator of that [3:00] place of business. Immediately west of the Lucky home was the home of the Viseys (?). Clarence Visey and Arthur Visey. They were two … the two boys. Each one graduated the university, and each one became a lawyer and practiced in Portland, and each one was a splendid lawyer. There were two daughters. One was Julia Visey, who married Professor Glenn, the other was Edith Visey, who married E .R. Bryson.\n\nImmediately west of the Visey property was the Bill Campbell place, William Campbell. My recollection is his initials were William T. Campbell. He married Maggie Stansbury, daughter of the Mr. Stansbury, who lived at [4:00] the southwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and East Tenth Streets. Bill Campbell constructed a splendid home on the bank of the mill race. This home was on the south side of East Hampton, as I said, immediately west of the Visey home. A story went the rounds to the effect that Bill said at one time that he never completed his home because he had the idea that if he did complete it, he would not live any longer.\n\nTugman: So the house, as you remember, it was always some work being done on it.\n\nHarris: [5:00] As far as the exterior was concerned, the exterior was completed, but my understanding is that he did not complete the interior. Bill Campbell was a … he was a very capable man, and he was a brother of John Campbell and Ari Campbell, John and Ari owned and opera … conducted the Eugene Guard.\n\nTugman: Well now, we'll go off, go away from Broadway and go back to Eleventh Street and the vicinity of the University. Coming down today we came down off of the hills in Fairmount and I think it would be interesting if the judge would tell us a little bit about the first homes up on the Fairmount Hill and then what lay in that area east of the University in his boyhood days before we come to Eleventh Street?\n\nHarris: The first home that was built [6:00] on the ridge now occupied by the Jewlettes (?) and the Washburn homes and other homes in that area was built by Martin Swarvard … Martin Swarvard and his brother lived in Eugene a good many years. There was no other home in that area except the home of the Marshes. The Marsh home was not on the top of the ridge, but it was down close to the foot of the ridge, and not far from what is now Columbia and Fairmount Boulevard, the intersection of Columbia and Fairmount Boulevard. [7:00] That entire area, and what we know as the farm … as the Fairmount area … my earliest recollection, with the exception of the two homes that I've mentioned, did not have on it any houses at all. A man, the name of Chichester, lived in a home which, as I recollected, was facing on what is now known as University Street and not far from the location of the Herb Memorial Home. The George Collier home which is still in existence was [8:00] the only house that was south of what's now … of what was then the university campus. I mean by that the only house that was across the street from the university campus. At that time, the university campus was bounded on the east by what is now University Street, and the south by Thirteenth Street, the west by what is now known as Kincaid Street, and on the north by Eleventh Street and the railroad tracks.\n\nTugman: That old Collier home was later the president's house and now the faculty club.\n\nHarris: That's it. Yes sir. And the first athletic field the university had was what was then known as the Kincaid … as Kincaid Park. It was the area that was west of the Kincaid property and east of Kincaid Street projected south. It was on the south side of … [9:00] of, uh, Thirteenth Street.\n\nTugman: Now can you tell us a little bit about that first football game that you saw, I think you said the pictures were made from a roof of a house nearby.\n\nHarris: At that time, the George Park house was in existence. The George Park home is still standing. It and one other building were the only buildings located on what is … on the block which is now bounded on the west by Kincaid, on the north by Twelfth, on the west by Alder, and on the south by Thirteenth. The first football game was played on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=36840.0,40200.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"March 24, 1894, in the southwest corner of what was then the campus. A walk, a sidewalk, not a sidewalk, but a walk made of boards extended to the … from what is now Kincaid Street to the west end of Deady Hall. The fir trees that are standing there now were then very small trees, not much higher than the ordinary sized man. The street known as Kincaid Street was not graded. It was not used at all in the winter, and very little in the summer. And Thirteenth Street","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40200.0,40260.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was not used, but very little. The travel was all on Eleventh Street.\n\nTugman: I think you said there was a stile or a fence around the campus at that time.\n\nHarris: There was a fence around the campus that the west end of the walk, which was made of planks that led from the west end of the … of Deady Hall … was at the point where it coincided with the west boundary line. Instead of having a gate or a turnstile, they built a sort of a contraption so you had to step up three, about three steps, and then you'd be on the top, and then you'd step down the three steps. That served as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40260.0,40320.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a part of the fence, and yet served to have a way to get in … to get into the campus.\n\nTugman: And that was to keep the cattle out of the campus.\n\nHarris: Yes, everybody that time … I say everybody … and nearly everybody had a cow and people fenced their yards and fenced to their property against livestock.\n\nTugman: Now I think you said there were one or two houses down on Thirteenth Street, or what is now Thirteenth Street, down the road west of the university that you might mention. I think you said there was Mrs. Spiller's home?\n\nHarris: I don't recall the exact location of the Spiller home, but Mrs. Spiller was a member of the faculty, and she lived in a house. My recollection is just on Thirteenth Street. It's barely","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40320.0,40380.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"possible it was Twelfth, and I'm not sure about that.\n\nTugman: Well, now, taking up the line of Eleventh Street from what is now Alder Street, can you tell us about some of the early homes on that thoroughfare?\n\nHarris: The area that's now occupied by the Bible School was a vacant block for many, many years and indeed until the time when the Bible School took over the property and constructed the buildings upon it. 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He was a prominent character in Eugene, and … two of his children were students at the university. A daughter graduated and became a very distinguished person in her activities, and the Owen family is one of the pioneer families of Lane County.\n\nTugman: I believe you said that Hen Owens, I believe he was called …\n\nHarris: … he was called Hen Owens …\n\nTugman: was the grandfather of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40620.0,40680.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the present councilman?\n\nHarris: Yes, George Owens.\n\nTugman: Frank Dunn.\n\nHarris: Frank Dunn, a son of F. B. Dunn, who was a merchant in Eugene, and whose home was located about where the present Christian church is, acquired the east portion of the Hen Owen property, and he … and Frank Dunn built a home there. And he lived in that home until he passed on, and his widow lived during the many years after his passing, and what she passed on lately.\n\nTugman: And then the Eugene Manor company.\n\nHarris: Where the … the site of the present Eugene Manor is the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40680.0,40740.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"site of the home of E. J. McClanahan. E .J. McClanahan was a pioneer in this area. In the old stage days, before the railroad was constructed, E. J. McClanahan, generally known as Ed McClanahan, drove stage on the stage line, extending from Portland … extending to Oakland, California.\n\nTugman: And then the Baums.\n\nHarris: At the southeast corner of High and East Eleventh was the home of E. Baum. 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Rodney Scott was a pioneer. He had a home originally over near Hayden Bridge, and he moved to Eugene. And after he moved to Eugene, he was elected county judge, built this home, and his daughter, Doad Scott, was the first librarian in the University of Oregon.\n\nTugman: Was that the Scott for whom the Scott Trail was named up on the Mackenzie, or was that a relative?\n\nHarris: I am not sure about that.\n\nTugman: Sharples.\n\nHarris: The … at the southeast corner of the Eleventh and Pearl …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40860.0,40920.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"East Eleventh and Pearl, is where Dr. Sharples lived. And at the northeast corner of that intersection, is where Dr. D. A. Payne lived. At the northwest corner of that intersection is where Goldsmith, who conducted a grocery store on Willamette Street, lived. Then, in that same block, which would be the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak … Pearl, intersection of Pearl and East Eleventh, where Joe Gray lived. Joe Gray was connected to the … er … Eugene Flouring Mill, and was a prominent character","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40920.0,40980.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the early affairs of Lane County.\n\nTugman: I think you told me that the old Dr. Paine home there at the northeast corner of Eleventh and Pearl eventually became the first fraternity house …\n\nHarris: That's correct. I've forgotten the name of the fraternity, but the first fraternity\n\nthat connected with the University of Oregon lived in that home. It was its home. It acquired it from the Dr. Payne family.\n\nTugman: I'd hesitate to say it was Sigmund Nu, but I think that might be it.\n\nHarris: I think that's it. I think it is Sigma Nu because I know that Dick Smith was a member of the fraternity, and I think it was Sigma Nu.\n\nTugman: Now we come to the Delano Place.\n\nHarris: Delano.\n\nTugman: Delano.\n\nHarris:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=40980.0,41040.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"W. L. Delano and F. W. Osborne were partners in the drugstore business. 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Now, Mr. Alexander worked in the Guard office when the office … when the Guard office was located on Willamette Street near … near the corner grocery store that was owned by Lester Beckwith, and Alexander worked for the Guard for many years. Then, the southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and East Eleventh Street was vacant ground. F. B. Dunn's home, as I've stated before, was located at a site that was not far from the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=41100.0,41160.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427/transcript/93980/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"south side of the present Christian church. And Dunn owned an area that extended  to East Willamette Street … East Eleventh Street, and there was no … no building, no improvements of any kind upon the north portion of the area owned by F. B. Dunn.\n\nAt the southeast corner of the intersection of East Eleventh and Willamette Street was where the library is, City Library now is, was a home which, as I remember, was built by Captain Gray. And then that place was afterwards the home of Henry and James Hoffman, brothers.\n\nTugman: May I interrupt? 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And his place of business was fairly close to the north side of what was in the St. Charles Hotel.\n\nTugman: That was about the limit of Eleventh Street.\n\nHarris: That was about the limit of Eleventh Street because Eleventh Street was a dead end about the time it got to Lincoln Street.\n\n- END -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283427#t=41460.0,1668.65333"}]}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 12 - UA180_b001_sr175c.wav"]},"duration":965.93333,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/425/original/UA180_b001_sr175c.wav?1753383075","type":"Audio","format":"audio/wav","duration":965.93333,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AUTO_TRINT_UA180_b001_sr175c.wav [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Today we've been, Judge Harris has been reconstructing the town as he knew it as a boy. The air, the homes and businesses on 6th, 7th, and 8th in what was then the city. And beginning at 6th and High and working west, let's hear the judge tell the story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=2.06,30.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The northwest corner of the intersection of High and East Six was the home of George Fisher. Who was a partner of Cy Watkins under the firm name of Fisher and Watkins. They owned and operated a butcher shop on Willamette Street on the east side of Willamett Street between 8th and 7th. And they... Northeast corner of the intersection of Six and Pearl was the residence property of David Cherry, who was a long-time resident of Eugene. Recollection is that he owned the poverty on the west end of that block all the way from 6th Street to 5th Street. Over on the south-west corner of the intersection of High and East 6 was the home of Mr. Idris, E-D-R-I-S. Idris and Joseph Gray and others were the owners of the old grist mill. Proceeding on west, on that street, the a church building occupied the southeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East St. Crossing the, crossing into the next block west at the northeast corner of the intersection of East 6 and Pearl was the residence of a Mr. O'Dell, whose daughter subsequently became the owner of the property and was the wife of Charles Hale. The house in the early days that was west of that house and at the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak and West 6 was the C.W. Fitch home. Fich was a lawyer. He passed on, left surviving in a widow and two daughters. The Fitch widow and daughters lived in that home for a long time. The poverty was subsequently acquired by Ed Hanson, who constructed a new home and occupied it for a long time at the... We've got to cross the street, Bill. Lester Beckman. Across the street from the Fitch and subsequently the Hanson home was the home of Lester Beckwith, L.G. Beckwith who conducted a grocery store at the corner of 7th and Willam streets for a long period of time. At the northwest corner of Oak and P-6 was a residential building occupied by, according to my recollection, a man the name of Mario, after whom Mario's Park was named. And west of the Marriot property, all of the area that was part of the west half of that block was owned by Ben Underwood, who owned it. The west half of that block and had a large residential building on it. At the southwest corner of the intersection of Oakland to East 6 was the home of Mr. Henderson, who was a partner of Robert Day, Day and Henderson furniture dealer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=32.5,326.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And undertakers in those days too? Yes. The undertaker was always the furniture man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=327.84,333.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It just, I think it just happened that way. At any rate, Jerry Ream was a furniture man and he was an undertaker also. Most of the undertaking business was done by R.M. Day. I'm speaking about the business of the firm of Day and Henderson. While Mr. Henderson would act as undertaker, if Bob Day was not available, nevertheless, most of that service was rendered by Bob Day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=335.94,367.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that because they built their own coffins in those days? I don't know about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=368.24,374.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But my recollection is that in those days they did build coffins. But I don't know whether Dan Henderson, for example, built all of their coffins or not. In addition to owning that furniture business, they owned a little mill down on the Taylor race, north of the Crisp Mill. I quite liked it. If they made any coffins, they built them in that mill. Now I would pass on to Willamette Street on the west side of Willamett Street. The northwest corner of Willambette Meese Six was vacant land, a part of the property that was owned by W.M. Wren Shaw. W.M. Renshaw owned and conducted a saloon on Willamette Street. And was, in every respect, a fine citizen. Over on the southwest corner of the intersection of Rolampton and West Fifth was the residence of Charles Lauer, Mr. Lauer owned the whole quarter block. And, uh, it is. His home building is still in existence. It was moved in preparation for the construction of the Hampton Building while our residence was moved to what is now the northwest corner of the intersection of Charlton and the west. In the early days, there was no other building on the block between. On the south side of the block, or the street between the block rather, between Olive and Willamette except a residence occupied by a man the name of Atterbury who was city marshal for many years. In my earliest recollection, about his now... West 6th Street, clean hour than Willamette, was nothing but a frog pond, and it was not even used as a street. The slew, of which I have spoken previously, passed along that area, and then it entered the block. West of the Atterbury home and went in a triangular course of passing over that portion of what is now the Meadowland Creamery that's next to the alley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=376.01,563.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now you mentioned a big willow tree on the Atterbury Place, which had some associations with your boyhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=564.82,572.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was a tree that was planted by many pioneers. I do not know why, but I do know that many of the pioneer homes had a willow, one or more willows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=577.38,596.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Weeping Willow. Now, that reminds me of something we omitted the other day in going through these streets. Today, we see these beautiful, huge maples. I think you told me that in the early days, as soon as the street was settled, the people just planted it. They didn't have to be told.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=597.71,623.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The accepted custom, if one purchased a lot for the purpose of constructing a house on it for residents, if there were not maple trees planted out in front of the house, one of the first things that he did would be to plant those trees, maple trees. I remember just as distinctly as though it were yesterday, when Cy walked in the... I purchased a part of what used to be the baseball ground immediately east of my parents' property on Charlton Street. The Watkins property facing on West Fifth. Even before he started to build his house, he put in some maple trees. And those maple trees, some of them are there yet, but most of them have been destroyed, cut out. I remember that in the early days, one could go up on Skinner's Butte in the summertime and look down over the town. And a very considerable portion of the town would be covered by the limbs of the maple trees and houses and buildings would be very largely obscured.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=627.07,712.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And now I believe we left you at six denials. I think you started there on the northwest corner with the Hudson home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=718.89,731.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The northwest corner was occupied by a man of the name of Hobson who was one of the founders of the Eugene Register. I don't remember the year but it was when I was a boy. I also regulate distinctly on the... The west side of Olive Street was a sidewalk, and I had a bicycle, high wheeled bicycle, before the days of what's now known as the safety. It's interesting to recall that when they built, first built the bicycle that the present generation knows about, it was called a safety bicycle for the purpose of distinguishing it from a high wheel bicycle, a wheel bicycle having a front wheel or a highwheel, and a back wheel or low wheel. If you rode, for example... One of those bicycles, high wheeled bicycles in a dusty road. If the dust was at all thick, you could depend upon it. Sooner or later, you'd get a header. Because the front wheel just wouldn't take care of it. And if you didn't look out, you'd take a hitter most any time. The ground or the walk wasn't level, as the case might be. Well, whenever I came to that hill, I'd have to take a run for it to get up to the hill. There isn't any hill observable there now. The presence of the hill was due to the fact that it was practically the bank of the old slough. Did you ever take any headers there, Doug? I never took a header on that place, but I took plenty of headers on my bicycle. Proceeding on the north side of West 6th, the next house was the home of Presley Cummages. Cummage was a pioneer. My recollection is that he served on the first jury. It was ever empaneled by any court in Lane County. He owned a farm over near what we used to know as the high banks on the Mackenzie River. And his residence stood on the northeast corner of the intersection of Charlton and West 5th. Now that was spelled C-O-M-E-G-Y-S. That's right. Across the street from the Commages home and on the southeast corner of the intersection in Charlton, West 6th, was the home of Phil Miller. Going proceeding out on west, at the northeast corner of the intersection of West 6 and Charlton Street was the home of a man by the name of McCormick. McCormack, Mr. McCornick, served as a deputy county clerk under Joe Ware for many years. Then proceeding on the west on that side of the street was the home of Monroe Shelley, J.M. Shelley. It was not a home that was as early as the McCormick home or as early at the Stoell home. The Stoel home was located at the northeast corner of the intersection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425#t=733.88,963.24"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283425/transcript/81946/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/081/946/original/trint_UA180_b001_sr175c_transcript.vtt?1753738558","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/081/946/original/trint_UA180_b001_sr175c_transcript.vtt?1753738558"}]}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 3 of 12 - UA180_b001_sr175d.wav"]},"duration":977.17333,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/content/3/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/422/original/UA180_b001_sr175d.wav?1753383073","type":"Audio","format":"audio/wav","duration":977.17333,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AUTO_TRINT_UA180_b001_sr175d.wav [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The Alfred Stowell home was located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West 6. Going back now to... Charlton and Quest 6, southwest corner. Was a residence building occupied by G. R. Christman, who afterward became county judge for Lane County and who afterwards acquired one of the Holt properties, which is located on 10th Street, West 10th street. Immediately west of that property was a residence, which was... For the many years occupied by Sherwood Burr and then down towards the corner of Lincoln and West 5th, south of East corner of West 6th, was the old Packard home. John F. Kelly acquired that property and moved the original Packard residence. Eastern, some distance east, and John Kelly constructed the present Kelly home. Proceeding on to the next part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=10.7,107.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Just a minute, Judge. Now John Kelly, John Kelly was one of the original partners with Robert Booth in Booth Kelly, is that correct? He was one in the Booth-Kelly original organization. And then there was a little instant you were telling me back there in connection with the Alfred Stowell home, where I believe some of you children got in and saw a business deal being transacted. Let's go!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=107.42,137.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Our store had a sign, and the son and I as youngsters played together. I could not have been more than eight or nine years old. At any rate, a business transaction was going on in the house. And this store boy and I, out of curiosity, went in to see what's going on. And I remember very distinctly seeing a pile of $20 gold pieces on the floor next to HCM for you as one of the bankers in Eugene at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=140.63,177.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, the transactions of that period were, all of them were largely for cash and usually in gold. They didn't use bills the way they did today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=180.48,191.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Largely by case, but I know that... Even when... Up to... 18 and 94 when I went back to Ann Arbor. Paper money was called greenbacks. Nobody wanted paper money. And we didn't have such a thing as pennies. We didn't use pennies.\" All the money that was used was coin, gold pieces, silver pieces, five dollars, ten dollars, twenty dollars denomination in gold. And when I got back to Ann Arbor, I found that they used paper and pennies and didn't know anything about gold. When I went back to ann arbor, I didn't have much money, but what I did have, I had it in gold and silver. And after I'd been there a few days, I went down to the store to buy something, and I handed the man a ten dollar gold piece. He looked at me and then he looked at the gold piece and he looked at me again and then looked at gold piece again. Finally he went back to the rear of the store. At first it didn't dawn on me what was troubling him, but he stayed back there and I noticed a fellow go by me and he turned to the right and went down to the bank which was located in the corner of the same block. Soon he came, this man came back and went back to the store, re-entered the store and the clerk with whom I was doing the business then came forward to where I was. Not until then did he come and gave me the change. I inferred that what happened was that the clerk didn't know whether that ten dollar gold piece was any good so he went back to see the boss or somebody else and they sent a man down to the bank with that ten dollar piece to see whether it was any good. They satisfied themselves, it's alright. And then complete the transaction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=193.03,326.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now, in that early period you also had many transactions around here in gold dust too, didn't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=327.9,334.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know of any transaction with gold dust, personally. I don't have any personal knowledge of any gold dust transaction, but especially in the southern Oregon area, I'm quite sure gold dust transactions were common.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=335.2,350.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now let's get on with the, I think we, I interrupted you, you were telling about Mr. Christman's place, the John Kelly place, we'd finished that. Now at 6th and Lincoln I think you begin with the home of John Church, one of the speed wars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=353.19,372.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Wallace home is. Not the Sneed Wallace home, this is the old man Wallace home. The father of Sneed, S-N-W-E-D Sneed Wallace, M.S. Wallace. Actually, Wallace's home, or occupied rather than Wallace's property, was the entire south half of that block, which faced on West Six, and was between Lincoln and Lawrence, and the John Church. On the north half of that park, all of which was owned by John Turt. Over on the south side of that block, between Lincoln and Lawrence, at the southwest corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West 5th, was the home of J. M. Thompson, John M. Thompson, who was the father of Herbert Thompson. Mr. Thompson was a lawyer. He died there. When I was a youngster, and his widow and son and daughter resided in the home property for a good many years. Proceeding on west on that block at the southeast corner of the intersection of Lawrence and was the home of Charles Horne. Horne, when I was a boy, owned a gun store. The same room that's occupied by Hendershot. And later on... After my first knowledge of Charles Horne, he formed a partnership with Barney Payne and the business under the firm name of Horne and Payne was conducted for many years. That room that's now occupied by Hendershots has been used continuously and without any interruption from the time that Charles Horne established the gun store in it. Then, proceeding on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Florence and West 6th, was the property of Mr. Consor. Consor owned a business property down on Royal Amish Street. He constructed the building which is known as the Consor Block. And west of the concert property, and in the same block, was the home of Mr. Kearns. My recollection is his initials were as if. I may be mistaken in that respect. But at any rate, he was the father of Maude Kearnes and of Mrs. Frank L. Chambers. Across the street from the concert property and at the southwest corner of the intersection of Lawrence and West 6th was the home of a man of the name of Murphy who owned a large farm northwest of Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=373.04,602.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And from that point on out, it was farming country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=607.92,611.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember the exact point where the east line of farming poverty was, but it was not far from this multi-poverty, possibly a couple of blocks west of it. And the area, I remember the time when the area that was between what is now known in Blair Street. On the west, and what is known now as Fifth Street on the north and Eighth Street on the south, and up to a point that I'm not sure about, as the East Line was nothing but farming property. They raised grain in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=614.6,662.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And as I think you said, I think 5th Street went through and 8th Street went through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=666.11,672.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To what we now know as Blair Street. To Blair Street, but between those two roads, it was prime. There was no street that contacted, that intersected Blair Street between 5th and 8th when I was a youngster, and I remember that distinctly because I would walk from my father's racetrack out on 8th Street to his home, to our home on 5th Street. And I'd make a sharp cut of it if there was no growing green.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=672.94,708.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, coming back on 7th Avenue, we began, I believe, at 7th and Washington, coming east, with the home of James Robinson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=710.38,730.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Robinson was a partner of John Church, and they operated a hardware store on Willamette Street. The site of their store is the south half of what is now known as the United States National Bank. James Robinsons. He was J.F. Robinson. He's generally known as Jimmy Robinson or Jim Robinson. Well, I was for many years clerk or secretary of the Masonic Lodge. On the next bill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=733.12,775.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Big crowd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=775.45,775.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Lee L.M. Travis, a lawyer, occupied, or rather built a home and then afterwards lived in it for the remainder of his life on the southeast corner of the intersection of Quest 6 and uh... Orange trees, I guess. I'm not sure about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=779.14,809.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well then, the next house you talked about was a burden home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=813.76,817.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A.G. Hovey owned the north half of the block between Lincoln and Florence Street. His residence occupied, or rather was on, was located at a point on approximately the... West end of the east half of that area. A.G. Hovey had two sons, Guy and Blaine, and a daughter, Carrie. Carrie married C.A. Burden, who for a long time was a Director of Athletics at the University, and afterwards he formed a partnership with David Graham, and they conducted a shoe store and Eugene for a long period. The Burdens built their home at the north-west corner of that property, which was owned by Holy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=820.59,900.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, the old homey home, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422#t=906.0,908.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283422/transcript/81945/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe still stands there. 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Humprey was generally known as Clay Humphry. The Clay Humpry home stood at the northwest corner of the intersection of Lincoln and west of Lincoln. And immediately west of the Umphrey Home, and on that side, on the north side of West 6th Street, was the home of B.D. Payne, Barney Payne who was a partner of Charles Horne. B. D. Payn was a brother of Dr. E. A. 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The McCormicks were pioneers in this area. East and in the same block and on the south side of the street is where Mrs. Hanchett lived. Over on the north side of West 6th between them. Lincoln and Charlton Streets was the home of Araby Liu, his residence still stands there. He was generally known as Lark Liu, he was a lawyer and lived in Eugene for many years. His son is still living and occupies the old residence. At the northeast corner of the intersection of West 7th and Charlton Street. The Charles Lauer. Residential building period. This building was originally constructed on the site now occupied by the Hampton building at the southwest corner of Willamette and West 6th Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=8.06,100.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, now we take it from 7th and Charlton, First Congregational Church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=105.84,111.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At the northwest, well, the southeast corner of the intersection of West Seventh and Charlton Streets was the Congregational Church. And at the southwest corner of intersection of Olive and West Seventh was the Episcopal hurt. At a point not far from the northeast corner of the intersection of Charlton and West 7th was the bonnet home occupied by the father of Marion bonnet and the original Charles bonnet Marcellus bonnet and at the Northwest corner of the intersection of West 7th and Alley Streets was the R.M.D. Residence. The building in which he lived as a residence is now existing and stands at the southwest corner of West 6th and Charlton Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=113.58,211.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What did they do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=213.33,214.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He was a partner of the Henderson and Day furniture and undercutter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=214.88,218.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=221.97,222.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At the southeast corner of 7th and Olive Street was the home of the Cleaver family. There were two brothers, Elmer... And the other brother, his first name I'd forgotten, and then there was a daughter. The Cleavers owned the entire quarter block. At the southeast corner of the intersection of Willamette and West 7th was the milliner's shore of Kerry Rankin. At the northeast corner of the intersection of Olive and West 7th was the Wiedemann Brewery. And at the northwest corner of intersection of Willamette and West Seventh was the Dan Anderson Furniture Store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=224.47,283.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Judge, could you tell us something about that early brewery, and perhaps the man who ran it, Wiedemann?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=285.0,292.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There was another Barry and Eugene. The Wiedermann Brewery. Did not occupy a prominent place in the minds of the beer drinking public. The other brewery, which was operated by a man of the name of Vogel, had most of the business. Later on, Weinhart, where he purchased the Vogel Drift Brewery, and it was on 9th Street, next to the corner of Olive and 9th. There is nothing about Wiedemann, I think, that would be of any interest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=301.25,344.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We're now taking from 7th and Willamette.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=349.63,351.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At the southeast corner of the intersection of Willamette and East 7th was the grocery store of L.G. Beckwith. He and his wife conducted the grocery store there for a great many years. At the... Southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and East 7th. There was a sporting house operated by a woman named Maddie Carter. At the northeast corner of The Lammet Band E7 was the furniture business of Jerry Ween. They withdrew, finally. I lived in a home. In about the middle of the... At least half of that block. Proceeding on east, at the southwest, no at the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak and East 7th was the home of L.G. Adair, who for many years was station agent at Southern Pacific. He owned the entire quarter block where the armory now stands. They The rest of the block going east was in the main unoccupied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=356.9,460.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you said there was a squatter named Doyle who came in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=465.56,469.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Man the name of Doyle who lived in that little shack that he had built for himself in that quarter block and the rest of it was unoccupied. That's on the 7th and Pearl was where Joe Watts lived. Joe Watts was a jeweler who was in Eugene for a great many years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=469.97,498.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When we came to 7th and High, there wasn't much in between there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=502.84,505.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Except that there is now standing on the south side of 7th Street between High and Pearl. The building that used to stand on the South side of 9th Street, immediately east of High And it was one of the... Early buildings that was constructed in Eugene and was originally the law office of a lawyer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=509.03,539.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, coming up High Street, you mentioned the A.J. 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He was the father, I believe, of Ray Babb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=561.18,564.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He was not engaged in any business in Eugene, but he had some farming properties, my recollection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=569.04,575.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now we turn east over 8th Street, and there's a good many points of historic interest here which the judge will tell us about. We turn east from the southeast corner, beginning with the Dave, Dave Lakin place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421#t=581.22,599.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283421/transcript/81948/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At the southeast corner of the intersection of High and 8th is where David Lakin lived. At the northeast corner of that intersection is where Charles Wetter, who was for many years. Night-watching in Eugene lived. And Charlie Wetter afterwards conducted a saloon right next to the Hoby building on Willamette Street. Going across the street and coming west on 8th, at the northwest corner of the intersection of High and 8th was the residence of Mr. Patterson, who was the father of Percy Patterson. Patterson was for a long time county treasurer in Rainy County. And proceeding on west in that same block, at the northeast corner of the intersection of... All right. And these dates was the location of the First Baptist Church of Eugene. The original building. Was a small building, and afterwards it was replaced by a good-sized building that was constructed practically flush with the boundary lines at that corner. Then later on, the constructed. The present church building is being located on the old Professor Mark Bailey property on 9th Street. On the southwest corner of the intersection of High and East 8th was the home property of S.B. Aiken and Stuart Aiken, the journey corner of Stuart Aicken. He and T.G. Hendricks founded the First National Bank in 1883. I can own the entire quarter block. And proceeding on. Where they're... A building or two at the corner, but I do not remember the name of any family who lived in either one of the buildings. At the northwest corner of the intersection of Farrell and the East 8th, where the Loving Hotel is located, was originally a building, a two-story wooden building owned by a man the name of Pinky Henderson. He occupied the lower floor of headquarters. I mean as a home, and the second floor was used for school purposes. The first school that I ever attended. And in that building. Mrs. Arab Stower was the teacher. I do not recall how old I was, but my present recollection is I was about six or seven. And I remember one incident about one of the boys I'd do. Broken some rule. Mrs. Stowe wanted to chastise him, so she asked me to go down and get a switch and bring it up to her, and I went down and got her a stick of steelwood. The result was that she was tempted to give me a switch. Across the street. Out on the south side of it was a blacksmith shop, and my recollection is that there was another blacksmith's shop south of that one. Warren Lucky owned and operated one of those two blacksmith shops. The old courthouse, which occupied the site of the present courthous at the northeast corner of the intersection of Oak and East 8, was a wooden building, And it stood on. Same site is now occupied by the present courthouse. The original courthous was built in 1855 and when they made preparations for constructing the new courthouses, the work having been commenced in 1898, the old courthaus was moved across Park Street. And was located between... Between 7th and 8th and Park Street. 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As I have heard the story, in 1897 or 1898, when they started to build the present courthouse. They first moved it down facing seven. And used it until the new courthouse was finished, after which Dr. Waller once told me it became, it was used for some years for the first Eugene High School, and then after that it became the Yates Hotel. Now can you tell us something of that lore? Well, in the name of Jesus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=3.03,56.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Used the building for quite a while. Rooming place where he could buy or get rooms. He didn't serve meals, is my recollection. I don't recall how long the building stood there before it was moved down to the mill raise. Frank Chambers purchased the building and moved it down to 7th Street right next to the Mill Raise. And it stood there for a long time. And was used as a rooming house and was finally destroyed. The new courthouse was dedicated on May 1, 1899, but my recollection is that it was occupied quite a little while before May 1 1899.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=59.67,116.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now the park blocks and the jail in those days were pretty much as they are now, is that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=120.84,127.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The blocks themselves are. It might be of interest to you to tell your story about Park Street. The street the streets that surround. The four part. Were when the plant was originally made 100 feet in width. In other words, the street that you know as North Park Street was 100 feet wide. The street that, you know, is South Park Street is 100 feet wide, and so too the East and West Streets. In the early days... The only means of reducing heat was wood. And every merchant had a woodshed in which he kept his wood for winter use. The different stores had, for instance, the stores that faced Willamette Street and were on the east side of Willamett Street. At the east end of those stores were woodsheds, closed woodshed, and sometimes they'd be used for storage purposes. After, shortly after, I came back from law school and after I had been appointed as Deputy Prosecutor of the Indian State's Attorney, they commenced to discuss the question of constructing a new courthouse. And among other things, the county court was interested in knowing what they could do in reference to the 34 feet that was occupied by these different merchants, the 34 Feet on Park Street. So I went down to the library at Salem, and I put in two solid weeks investigating the problem from a legal standpoint. And I came back to Eugene. George M. Brown was a prosecuting attorney. However, George Brown did not become prosecuting attorney until July 1, 1898. He was elected at the June election of 1898 At any rate, the county court concluded that the best thing to do would be to litigate the question, get a judicial decision as to what the rights of the county were in those 34 feet. Because... That area had been used by these merchants for a long time. As a result of the litigation, it was decided that the county owned that property and the county had the right to sell it. So the property was sold to the owners of the properties upon which adjoined these foot strips, adjoin them on the outside. For example, here on Lamott Street, between... The alley between 7th and 8th, and the alley between 8th and 9th, all of the store buildings that were between Park Street and Willamette Street were given the right to purchase this property, and they all purchased it, and there was never any controversy about it at all. Every property owner who owned land next to Park Street purchased this 34 feet and I do the end of it. And that helped to finance the courthouse. Yes, it helped them to get money. There was some discussion as to whether or not the courtheouse should be located at the intersection of Oak and Eighth, but it was decided finally not to construct it there and to construct on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=128.16,396.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The site of the old courthouse. I think it's interesting in the history of Lane County, it relates that, I think, it was 18. In 1955, when that old white building, later known as the 8th Hotel, was built, it was built in the middle of the intersection of 8th and Willamette. About ten years later, they had to move it because it was creating traffic jams. Judge, I wonder, when you were a boy, court didn't meet every day. But could you give us a little description of what that square there looked like when you were having an important court session?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=396.04,446.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I don't know much about what happened in the courtroom. Prior to 1896, I remember being up in the circuit courtroom and Judge Robert S. Dean was circuit judge prior to the time until I came back from law school. And I remember it being in the Circuit Courtroom one or two times in addition to that prior to 1886. But I can't give you any dependable information with reference to the doings in the the circuits go from there at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=449.33,484.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what I had in mind, Judge, was the appearance outside the courthouse where the farmers and people would come in with their horses and wagons and tie up around the block. That was the picture I would have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=485.07,497.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In fact, Judge Potter, soon after Judge Potter was elected county judge, I remember they put in some new hitching racks all the way clear around, clear around these four parks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=498.97,509.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they have watering troughs there for horses too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=511.58,514.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember of any watering trough. There was a trough at the pump that was in front of the courthouse. That would be south of the court house and between the south end of the courthous and the sidewalk. Nevertheless, I don't recall of any of that trough being used for horse horses at all. And I don remember of any trough that was used for watering horses except the trough that was down in front the Wilkins drugstore. On Lamont Street, there was a pump, and at that pump was a trough, and it was made for the purpose of enabling people to water their horses there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=516.96,555.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a pump at the courthouse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=556.91,558.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Too? Yes. But no trough then? No, but that pump is primarily for the purpose of enabling people having business in the courthouse and the occupants of the courthous to get drinking water. That is before we had a water system. I don't remember the exact year when the water system was put in, but it was after 1884 and my recollection is long about 1885, 1886.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=558.96,584.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now let's take it from beyond the courthouse blocks on west.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=587.01,593.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Have a great night. North-East corner of the intersection of Willamette. And East 8th was the merchandise store of John H. McCung and A.J. Johnson, known as McCung\u0026 Johnson. Immediately west of that store was the drug store of F.M. Wilkins, and it was in front of that drug store where this pump and trough were. Going across the street and on the south side of 8th and north of the southeast corner of Willamette and East 8th was the store of A.B. Peters. He had a merchandise establishment, dry goods. And by the way, the residence, the home building of A.B. Peters was moved. I'll tell you about that later, but it was moved and is now occupied by Judge C.A. Winnemer over in the southwest part of the town. We're going across Varamate Street. I think, yeah, going across South Willamette, or going across Willamett Street at the northwest corner of the intersection of Willametta and East and West 8th was the bank of Hoey and Umprey. And at one time, in the earlier days, according to my recollection, the Crane Brothers, C-R-A-I-N, had a jewelry store. Immediately west of the whole Vietnam Free Bank is where the old Masonic building is. Across the alley from that was J. H. Klammer's harness shop. And then down on the northeast corner of the intersection of Arlington to West 8th was a blacksmith shop of John Sloan. And immediately east of and adjoining his blacksmith's shop was his livery stable. At the southwest corner of the intersection of Lammet and West 8th was the building of J.D. Matlock. Matlock had a dry goods store. And then later on he leased it to the Hanson boys as Frank Hanson and Ed Hanson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=598.55,777.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He was mayor of Eugene for some time, wasn't he? 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Box stalls and the reason why that was conducted that way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=839.68,861.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Every livery stable of any importance made provision for stallions. A man would own a stallion and he would advertise that he would be in Eugene on certain days and he'd be in Cresswell on certain dates. He would be on Cottage Grove on certain day. He would stop, for example, at the John Stewart livery stable and there would be BOX STORE! Would be used by the owner of that stallion. And then out in the open space, there were the facilities for serving the mayor. And that was the explanation of that. That was true of John Stewart's stable, it was true Eli Bang's stable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426#t=865.4,921.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283426/transcript/81943/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And those high fences were to protect the ladies and the children from these nuisances here. 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He also owned a building immediately west of his home that was called Lane Theater. I remember the western part, the west part of that building was on stilts And that was because... Ahem! Oh, the slew! Across that block coming from Charlton Street over towards us. For the bank's livery, livery stable property. There it was. Nothing west on that, nothing in that block west of the Lane Theater at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=3.17,62.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Could you tell us about the shows he gave there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=64.36,66.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't tell you anything about the shows. I don't know of anything that would be particularly interesting. At any rate, it was known as the Lane Theater, and at that time there was no other building in the town that served the purposes of the theater. Later on, John Reinhardt had a theater building, here where the present Audubon building is. Over on the southwest corner, the intersection of Olive and West 8th was the blacksmith shop of George Meltson and the west side of his building was likewise sustained by stilts because of the slew that I mentioned. Down on the west end of that block and facing on Charlton Street was the home of V. McFarlane. Proceeding on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Charlton and West 8th Street was the residence of a Mr. Osborne. I've forgotten his initials. He was the father of F.W. Osbourne. There was no building in the early days in that block facing on West 8, except the Presbyterian Church, which stood in... At the north-east corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West H. Across the street from the Osborne property and at the southwest corner of the intersection of Charlton and West 8th was a residence occupied by a man of the name of James, and on west from him and in the West half of that block was the home of Dr. Gill. Dr. Gil was the father of George Gill, who was a mighty fine man and a splendid horse trainer. And he devoted practically his entire time to training and driving harness horses. And he always had one or more stadiums. And he was the Father of Slats Gill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=68.66,226.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you said that perhaps some of Slatskill's skill as a student of basketball flesh might be inherited from his horse training. Well, my idea about it is his ability.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=229.63,245.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As a trainer was inherited from his father, who was a splendid horse trainer, and George Gill was a fine man. Then proceeding on west. At the northwest corner of the intersection of Lincoln and West 8th was the home of a man the name of Brown. 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And the wood was always stacked next to the railroad so that if, for example, your train was traveling from here to Roseburg. And if they needed wood before they got to Roseburg, there'd be a place that the train could stop and they could put on wood on the tender. The tender was nothing more or less than a trailer for the engine proper. And that trailer or tender was always filled with wood before the train started out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=312.98,394.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now at these stops where they took on wood, did they have helpers or did the engineer and firemen do that themselves? 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In due course of time, they had no more use for even the turntable in UT.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=465.97,488.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well then, when you were a boy, did they have through service to California or was it just terminating here at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=491.06,497.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember. But I do distinctly remember. When we were living at The Choir of Charton and Westfield. Was the year when the last spike was driven, connecting the road from California to Oregon, and the last bike was driven near Ashland. And people went up there to the depot having been informed that they could hear the last spiked driven. And it was so arranged that and the spike was driven. A telegraph instrument would give you the information. 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Were the steamboats still running when you were a boy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=592.219,598.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I read in the newspaper just the other day about steamboats coming to Eugene. I never saw but one steamboat in Eugene in my life. A steamboat came up to Eugene and they made a great celebration. People were down there to the bridge, it was just below what's now known as the Strait Bridge. The bridge at that time was a covered bridge. Sam Friendly was mayor and he made a speech and it made a great hairdo about it. That steamboat was advertised to make regular trips to Eugene that didn't last very long. It just wasn't in the cards, that's all there's about it. In the summertime especially.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=601.03,650.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To make the riffles. Well now in those days were people going up the Mackenzie as much or I mean proportionately as they are today? Oh no, no no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=653.03,662.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Proportionately, there was not nearly as many people went up the Mackenzie. It's true that people did go up the McKenzie. People went to Foley Springs, people went to Belknap Springs. But relatively speaking, there wasn't a great many.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=664.84,683.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When they went, they went to spend the summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=685.19,687.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when you stop and think about it, it was a hard day's trip from here to Mackenzie Bridge. For example, the stage would leave Eugene in the morning early, never later than eight, generally close to seven. And even in the best weather in the summertime, it wouldn't land at the Frizzell Place or What you know now is the McKenzie, as they all cabin in, until close to six o'clock. And then it would go on to fall his brains. That was the end of the state trial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=688.55,723.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now, as a boy, where did the, where did you kids swim? Where did you? We went over north of Butte.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=726.03,733.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, later on, when I was to begin with, before I knew how to swim, there were three holes. One was known as the little hole, and that is up behind Payne's Tannery in that area. The other was known is the middle hole, that is behind the Kármán Lárc pop yard. Come home with just about where... The gas panties up there. And when you graduated from the little hole or the middle hole, so you thought you could really swim, well then you went down to the mouth, so it slew. That time, the Willamette River turned and went north. Got a point. Not far from Judgkin's point. Described a you and came back south at a point. Not very far from above or from the what's now Ferry Street Bridge. I would say it would be the equivalent of Block and Hang.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=735.61,819.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now this little, what you call the little hole, where was that tannery?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=820.86,823.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the tannery stood just about where Eugene Sands Groundwork Company's officers are. Well, the little hole was just a small place. Now then, as I told you, the Van Amck River described this U. If, for example, you cross Ferry Street Bridge and turn to your right, the first road that turns to the right, with a view of going up on the right-hand bank of the Van Amck river, you've crossed a bridge. At the end of probably 400 or 500 feet. From the Coburg Road. That bridge crosses what used to be the channel over the Lamont River, and that part of the channel was a part of this U that I tell you about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=825.27,870.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that was what you called a slew there? What was the name of that slew? Well, I haven't gotten to that yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424#t=870.93,876.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283424/transcript/81953/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've described the river. Water came from the Willamette River at the point where it turned north to create that u. It came through a big drift and it came down past the tannery in north of the Carmen Place and then came into the Bain River at a point that I would say would be 300 yards, maybe 400 yards, above what's now the Ferry Street Bridge. That was called Swift Slough. And this little hole that was in behind Haynes's tannery was called the Little Hole. And the hole that's in behind the Carmen Place was called The Middle Hole. And the mouth of Swiftstool was called a, well they just simply said, the river. Well, if you got so, you could swim good enough to be there at the mouth of Swift Slough. The river was pretty rough when it came around. You could either swim in the smooth water, which was deep, of Swift slough at that place, or if you wanted to, you can go up and come down in the swift water. Well, anyhow, that's the story about the swimming, except that. 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Harris is going to describe a little trip we took along Fifth Street from the intersection with High through to about Washington Street, describing the town as he knew it when he was a boy in that section of Eugene and the life of the people who lived in that area. Judge Harris. I pointed out","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=1.3,28.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e you as we stood at the corner of High and West Fifth, the course followed by an old slew. When I say a slew, I do not mean by that that the water was in it the year around, nor was the water moving in it. The year around, or any considerable portion of the year. Probably you'll understand the slew better when I follow its course from the point where we stood on High and East Fifth to the point where Eli Bangs had a delivery stable. The course of this flu. What's now known as High Street. And it ran across the block from the west side of High Street to the east side of, no, the west of High street, which would be the eastside of the block to the East side of Pearl Street and the westside of a block. And it thence crossed the street and ran in a triangle, it ran westerly from the west side of Pearl Street to Oak Street and thence ran across the block.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=28.97,147.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Between Oak Street and Willamette Street. Pretty much on the line of 6th at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=148.02,153.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The slough would be a little bit north of Sixth Street at that point until it got to the northeast corner of us now, the intersection of Willamette and East Sixth. And then the slough proceeded. Westerly. To what is now known as the intersection of West 5th, West 6th rather, and Olive Streets. And then the slew proceeded southwesterly. Running in behind the home at one time owned by Phil Miller. The area that's now occupied by metal and creamery into what is now known as Charlton Street and then the slew continued southerly. To. I went a short distance north of 8th Street and then turned southeasterly and ran across the block between Charlton and Arley Streets to the north side of 8th Street. I recollect in this connection with the first theater building that I knew anything about in Eugene, the old Lane Theater, which stood on the north side of 8th Street. Between Olive and Charlton that the main building stood practically on stilts. And then the slew crossed the street. And ran across the block. It is on the south side of 8th Street and between, at West 8th street and between Olive and Charlton. And I remember that George Melton had a blacksmith shop at the southwest corner of the intersection of West 8th and Darby streets. And the west side of his building stood on stilts. The reason was because of the existence of the slough. And then the screw crossed the street, going southeasterly. And ran into the area that was owned and occupied by Eagle Eye Bangs. Eagle Eye bangs had a livery stable which was right next to the alley. The alley that runs immediately, that runs north and south and immediately west, the west end of the First National Bank building. And here I banged his home, it was. At the northeast corner of the intersection of Dolly and West 8th Street, and the area in that corner block that was owned by U.I. Bangs, upon which nothing had been built, was lower than the street because of the former existence of the sluice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=157.96,392.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, did that slew eventually go into the Amazon out in what was then the country? No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=393.61,400.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know of any connection at all. There may have been a connection at some time, but if there was, it was before my time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=400.96,408.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, did it just peter out as it got out into the fields, or did it go back in? Well, my recollection is...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=409.13,415.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That the slough ended at the United Banks's livery stable in all probability before any buildings had been constructed or any streets made or that the slew extended farther. I should say in this connection that when I was a boy, that part of the slewe which between them. 7Th Street and 8th Street was a skating pond in the wintertime. I as a youngster skated on that slew, not every winter by any means because we didn't have enough ice enough every winter, but we did have enough for us two or three winters during my boyhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=416.29,465.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Would be. Well now, beginning back at 5th and High, you notice the old structure of the Eugene Millen Elevator Company, which I believe you said was established by a man named Edris and Joe Gray and I think a man called Hilliard may have had a hand in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=466.03,488.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's my recollection. Now, I remember William Edress. I was a boy. I remember William Edriss. I likewise remember Joe Gray. And during my knowledge of those two men, they were interested in that breast milk. William Edris lived at the corner where C.O. Peterson for many years lived. Which was the southwest corner of High and East Sixth Streets. Joe Gray owned the quarter block and lived at the northeast corner of the intersection Laramette, not Laramett, but 11th Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=488.11,535.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oak Street. Well now, I notice you call it a grist mill. Now in those days did the people have their wheat ground into flour locally? As a rule, as a rule a farmer took his wheat to the mill and it was ground for him at the mill. That is his flour was ground and his feed was ground? Yes. Well now coming on up 5th Street, you mentioned the old home of William M. Preston. I think you said the southwest corner of 5th and Pearl. That's correct. 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I don't remember how long ago. William Preston passed on quite a few years ago and his wife passed on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=579.97,641.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e within the last year. And then I think one of the next homes you came to was that of B.F. Doris. 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They didn't have recordings, they had to have fiddlers. That's it, exactly. And see, that brings us up to the W.B. Andrews Lumber Yard. The W. B. Andrew's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=942.82,963.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was with the Union forces at the Battle of Bull Run. He was a short man in stature, rather heavyset. And he operated at Columbia Yard at the northeast corner of the intersection of East Fifth and Willamette Streets for a good many years. And my recollection is that he didn't move from that place until the Oregon Electric took over the. 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I do not recall how long he was sheriff, but my present recollection is it was more one term. And my recollection is that his last term of office terminated in 1898, and I think he was succeeded by, I know W.W. Weathers was elected in 1899, and my recollections is that Weathers succeeded Johnson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=1036.97,1114.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Then I think you said that just beyond Johnson's place was the tract owned by George Sovereigns who had a farm and an orchard where the city jail now is. 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And the name of Hyman lived in the southwest corner of the intersection of Olive and West Fifth. He had the whole quarter block. And next to him was George N. Frazier. George Frazier conducted a foundry located there. 8Th Street, East 8th street, next to the mill race. The building still stands there. Part of it, at any rate. And George Frazier was a musician. He played the turn that Oh, wait a minute. Wrong about that. Carnet. And he was also interested in... Teaching young boys to play instruments, band instruments. 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And in those days, anybody could play on the band. I mean, anybody who wanted to play could play. Yes, yes. George himself played in the city band.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=1345.04,1357.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Then next to George Frazier was the home of Sherwood Burr. Sherwood burr was kind of deputy county clerk under General Ware for good many years. Over on the north side of West Fifth Street. And immediately across from the hammond. George Frazier and the Sherwood Burr Homes, originally in about, I know in 1884 and until two or three years after that, that whole block was a vacant, unpenced area and was used as a baseball field by the boys whenever they wanted to play baseball. And in due course of time, George Midgley built a training mill there near the east side of the block than it was the west side of the block. And in due course of time, George Midgley and George Dysinger became partners in the operation of a painting mill. In later years, Dysing constructed a house which, because of its ornate workmanship, speaking with reference to wood, was really a show place for many years. Dysinga later moved to Roseburg. The old Heisinger home still stands, but it's in a dilapidated condition now. That's that old house you showed me there this afternoon. In due course of time, George Midgley built a painting mill over on High Street, and that building, that place of business is still sometimes called Midgely Painting Mill. In the same block, which was originally a baseball field. Cy Watkins, who was in the butcher business, built a house that still stands. His house was the northeast corner of the intersection of West Fifth and Charlton Street. Now then, coming to the next block, going west, which next block is between Charlton and... The Lincoln streets. On the south side of the street, in the southwest corner of the intersection of Charlton and West Fifth, was the Stephen Jenkins home. Then next to him was his father, Reverend Richardson. And going west, the next home was that of Charles Collier, who for a great many years was County Surveyor, Berlain County, over on the north side of The block between Lincoln and Charvin, the northwest corner of the intersection of Charvin and West 5th, was the home of my parents. And after we moved into that home in 1884, John B. Harris, who was no relation to us... Had purchased her built upon a parcel of ground which she had previously purchased from T.W. Shelton, a home that still stands and my mother is living in that home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=1361.05,1598.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe you said that your house was originally built by Dr. Thomas W. 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That's where Tillman Plemon comes. That is right. And your mother will be her next birthday. Lives that long. Well now let's go on west across Lincoln, between Lincoln and Lawrence. I think you said the north half of the block south of 5th Street was owned by John Church. John Church, who was a partner of...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=1674.0,1713.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e James Robinson, in the hardware business, it was known as Robinson and Church. Their store was on the east side of Royal Amherst Street. The site of their store was the south half of what's now the United States National Bank, Eugene Branch. 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I don't recall the man's name, went into the living room of the Coleman house one evening, about eight o'clock, shot David Coleman, right by the daughter, then he ran across the alley north of the house and into a barn and committed suicide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429#t=1782.98,1834.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283429/transcript/81949/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Side of the neck bar. You don't remember, remember the year of that? No, I don't recall. But you were a small boy at the time. Yes, I was a youngster. And I imagine it caused a great deal of excitement. I imagine actually it did. What was Coleman's business, you say? He had a farm over near Colbert. 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You've told us about your boyhood home, and I think we're now ready to cross Lawrence Street. There was a home of a man named Miller at Lawrence on northeast corner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=6.44,33.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Miller's home was at the northeast corner of the intersection of West Fifth and Florence Street. What did he do? I don't recall what Miller did in my record. I really don't believe that he was engaged in anything in any business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=34.03,54.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. You were just retired. Yes. In other words, even in those days, a farmer would save a little money and come to town to live. Once in a while a farmer will do that. Never, however, was not a farmer. Then in the middle of that block on the north side, you pointed out an old residence, which I believe is now occupied by the family of Kenneth Poole. His wife has a little children's theater studio there. House is still standing and in very good condition and in use. You remember who built that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=54.98,94.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I built that house in 1904, or 1903 and before I was married, I was married April 28, 1904. 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Johnson, who was first president of the University of Oregon. I have a very distinct recollection that on the day that my mother and I came to Eugene on the train which arrived in Eugene about two o'clock in the afternoon in 1884. To take up residence in Eugene, we went and proceeded west on 5th Street. And at the point, somewhere... Between Willamette Street and Olive Street. A man driving a team with a wagon loaded with a loan was going west. Not long afterwards, I learned that that was A.C. Woodcock, who subsequently was a leading lawyer in Eugene. Woodcock earned his way through the University of Oregon, and he was working for John W. Johnson, and... Driving a team for the purpose of getting a good yard for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=117.33,204.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That old house is still there, it's quite a large","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=210.829,213.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now occupied and owned by Mrs. Amos Wilkins. Right across the street south is a large square building that was built by Reverend Geary, a Presbyterian minister. And sometime near the early part of the 1890s, a man by the name of Griffin and his family moved to Eugene. And he bought out the Robison Church hardware store and ran the store for Carlisle. Griffin bought the Geary home. His family lived there for many years. On the same side of the street, and before you get to Washington Street, was a home occupied by WTP2 that was connected to the Eugene City Bank. Over on the north side of this street and to the west of the John W. Johnson home you know, in the corner of... It would be the northeast corner of the intersection of Washington and West 5th. It was the home of SW Condon, Seymour W. Condon for quite a while. Then the next block west of that, which would be the north-west corner of the intersection of the street, John B. 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I know that when I first came here, one of the first ranch homes I visited was the present home of Arbendorus, over across the river in Springfield, and his uncle and his wife were there, and I had asparagus as I've never had it before, and they showed me There are experiments with filbricks in these other trees. Then, beyond the Doris home, you mentioned the W.B. Andrews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=382.37,420.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Andrews who had the lumberyard where the Oregon Electric Depot now stands and where, as I pointed out to you, the northwest corner of the block between Hope and Willamette on the south side of West Fifth. And beyond that, what was there? Beyond that, my earliest recollection was simply an open field where grain was raised. And as I told you, the last house that was on West Fifth going west was the Drake Home. And between that home and what we now know as Blair Street was an open fields where grain is raised.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=423.16,471.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now, you told me that when you were a boy, people in that neighborhood kept cows. Everybody had a barn, he had a horse, and he had cow. And those cows were pastured, I believe, up on the Butte. 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Now I suppose it was your job as a boy to take care of that cow. Yes, I had to try to take my cow to the pasture every morning and get her to eat any milk. And bring in the wood, the ash, and I'll walk to university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=583.77,637.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Didn't have any automobile to ride, you know. I believe you told me that President Johnson himself walked to and from the university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=638.6,646.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Professor Hawthorne. Professor Hawtorn lived over on the corner of 4th. Professor Hawthorne was a very interesting character. Fine man, he was with the Confederate troops in the war of the 60s. The Battle of Gettysburg he was on Armistead staff. He never talked about the war except to his very intimate friends and even then. He was not at all anxious to discuss the subject one way or the other. His boy, one of his boys, was with the Oregon troops in the Philippines, Spanish-American war. And he was killed in battle. One of the most solemn occasions I ever witnessed in my life was the one when the first flagpole which was erected in the park in Eugene across from the courthouse was dedicated. As I said a moment ago, Professor Hawthorne was the battle of Gettysburg. There was a surviving member of the 1st Minnesota. Living at Goshen. You will recall... 83% of the first Minnesota was lost in 15 minutes at Gettysburg. So that when this flagpole was dedicated, the ceremony involved the raising of the flag with Hawthorne, a surviving member of the southern troops, a survivor of Gettysburg, and this survivor of the First Tennessee, or First Minnesota. It was an exceeding aid in preservation. 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Wendy An anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg was held at the scene of the battle by the Union troops. And Professor Hawthorne, among other southern troops, southern survivors, was invited to attend that reunion. Professor Hawhtorne told me about the occasion. He was assigned to a certain group of... Of surviving Union troops and he was their guest and he said they wouldn't let him do anything for himself and they wanted to do something for him all the time. And he appreciated it very, very much. Trip to the scene of the battle and these experiences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=821.78,896.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, it was his son's death, I think, which Herbert Thompson has described in that book that he is writing about the experiences of the Oregon Volunteers in the Philippines. I don't know whether you've read that chapter in his manuscript or not. I haven't read it. I haven't seen it. But I think you told me that Professor Hawthorne had perhaps more than his share of tragedy in his own family. Yes, that's correct. That's correct He lost this boy and I think he lost his other children. Yes. 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Jackson never lost a battle, and Lee never won one, but when he made that statement, he did not do it at all with the view of saying anything derogatory to General Lee because he admired him very, very much as a man, but he did have a very high regard for Jackson as a general. Do you know what state he-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=939.99,1010.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e came from, I don't recall. Well now, can you give us something of the, oh, the character of some of these other early citizens? Now one of the Dorises is recorded in the history of Lane County as having been the first president of the city of Eugene, of Eugene City. In those days Eugene was called Eugene City and the mayor was called the city president. I think that was the original Ben F. Did you know him? I knew. I knew Ben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1010.98,1054.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Door. Through the days when he ran the tin shop, and through the days when was city recorder. He was a small man, and in all probability it was he. I don't have any recollection or any information about which one was the mayor or the president, but in all probability it Ben Doris. I don't believe that George B. Doris would have done it. I don't mean by that that George B. 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I believe he came from Yale University, but was pretty much self-made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1106.08,1117.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My understanding is that President Johnson made his own way through Yale. I do not believe that he had any assistance at all. He had to depend upon himself. He was a strict disciplinarian. And he expected his students to do what they were supposed to do. And he had no use for any student who didn't have his lessons. Was he a big man or? No, a small man physically. Not a real small man, but he was not a large man physically President Johnson was a great teacher, as I've expressed it on many occasions. 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Because there are so many roots of the Latin that are roots of English words. 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More than that, there was a boxed stove in his room. Didn't have these heating plants like they have now. A boxed stoves and fire was produced with wood. This is D.D. Hall, the first room to the left as you enter the building, the main part of it. He'd sit in front of that boxed stove, even run classes in session, and he'd spit in the stove. He didn't have very much tobacco in his mouth, just enough to make to let you know that he was chewing tobacco. Now did he drive a team to... I never saw him drive a team in my life. He had a barn, of course, for his horses. I mean, for he was a cow. But he wasn't a horseman. No, I never seen him drive in my live. I don't think he had any horses at all. 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Did you ever hear anybody recount that incident? I never heard any discussion about that at all. 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And then after I graduated, there came the dormitory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1591.97,1615.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That was Friendly Hall, which was given by Sam Friendly. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1617.06,1622.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Charles Wilkinson was a student at the university. He never graduated. He was a brilliant young man. And he was elected to the legislature and the House. And he obtained an appropriation for the construction of that building. Very bit cold, very bit cold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1625.36,1646.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now most of the students in that time were from right around Eugene or did some of them come in from Portland and board here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1649.9,1658.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. When I graduated, there were about 200 of the students, but it comprised about 250 students. Naturally, they... A very considerable number of them came from Eugene and around the New Orleans Valley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1658.96,1680.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you recall the condition when you first came back from law school, I believe you went to Michigan? Yes. And the conditions of the times and the problems you faced as a young lawyer trying to get started?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1684.29,1700.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The hard times are the 1890s. Was still on. In 1893, a great many banks were closed and economic conditions were terrible. When I came back from law school... A deputy prosecuting attorney was to be appointed for Lane County. The state election at that time was held in June. A district attorney had been elected. A district's attorney was elected for six counties, comprising the second judicial district. And those counties were Lincoln, Benton, Lane, Douglas, Coos, and Curry. The district attorney took care of all those six counties. But he had to have a deputy in each county. Neither the district attorney nor his deputies were paid salaries. They were paid fees for the services rendered. For example, a deputy, if he appeared in the justice court of preliminary examination or on the trial of a misdemeanor before the justice or the fees, he'd get so much for that, small fees. The aggregate fees didn't run more than $50 or $75 a month, but a dollar at that time purchased a great deal, more than it purchases now. I remember that about three months after I was appointed, the county court asked me to come and see them. And I did, and they said that A great many, in fact most, of the merchants in Eugene were delinquent in the payment of their taxes. And they wanted me to go and see them and see if I couldn't collect some of the taxes. Well, imagine now a kid about 23 years old going to see a man who's sweating out his lifeblood to keep his business going and being asked to buy that kid to pay his taxes. Nobody tried to kill me, nobody... Swore at me, and my only explanation of it is that they were simply dumbfounded when they were asked by a kid to pay their taxes and rendered utterly speechless. 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In our next trip, I hope we can take up the topic of some of the early horse breeders and horse races. Oh, I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430#t=1896.29,1908.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283430/transcript/81951/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Alright, that's fine. Whenever you want to. 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You'll remember that we stopped last time at approximately 8th and Lawrence, and the judge will tell us about the old Hodes residence in that vicinity, and then about the importance of 8th street in those days as a connection both to Lorraine and Junction City, and also some of the interesting activities out in the country along that road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=0.03,29.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hammer holders. Was an old timer. A fine man. He built a house on the south side of what we now call Eighth Street. At the time, he constructed that house. The present street, known as Lawrence Street, ended with what we now know as H. There was no Lawrence Street south of 8th Street. Recently, I talked with W. H. Otis, the son of Clem Otis. And it is his recollection, figuring with relation to the... Age of a brother, of his brother George, that the Otis property was probably constructed in 1887. The west boundary line of the Otus property was the east boundary line of the Elias Stewart property. Elias Stuart was generally known as Eben Stuart. He as the father of S. S. D. G. Hendricks and of... This is Joe Lucky and I'm one of the Stevens brothers. The west boundary line of the Stewart, the last Stewart property, was a lane. Extended from what we know now as West 8th Street on South. Out into the College Hill area and beyond. And this lane was the east boundary line of the Huddleston property. Jefferson Street has presently extended south from West 8th. Practically coincides with the lane that I mentioned. Evan Stewart, or Elias Stewart, to be accurate, had a mile racetrack. The back stretch and the home stretch extended north and south, and the back stretch was close to this lane. The first turn was south, was close to... West 8th Street. This racetrack was used over a period of years. Evan Stewart did not personally have any racehorses as I remember it. His son, John Stewart, who had a livery stable and whose livery stable faced on West 8th. Between Olive and Willamette. Generally had one or more harness horses. Continuing on out, what we now know as West 8th Street. The east line of the Hudson property. Extended door south for some distance. I don't recall whether the Hudson probably went south of what we now know as 11th Street, but my best recollection is that it did. I may be mistaken in that respect. What we now know as West 8th Street was a county road after it got beyond the city limits. And West 8th Street continued on to what we now know as Chamber Street. If one desired to go to Lorraine, he would have to travel out 8th street, or what's now 8th St. And he would travel to what is now known as Chamber St. And go south to what's known as 11th St., and then go west beyond what used to be the brick yard, and then goes south. And over the Bailey Hill and so on into Lorraine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=31.86,339.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And if you were going to Junction City, Judge...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=344.3,346.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If he were going to Junction City, he would turn off at what we now know as Blair Street. Blair Street did not extend south of what we know now as West 8th Street. If one was going to junction city, he'd go west either on West 8 Street or out on West 5th Street There was a strip of land owned by a man named O.Q. Corkwright. And his land was rebounded on the west by what we now know as Chamber Street. My recollection is that this strip was in with the equivalent of Somewhere between a half a block and a block than all of that area that was between... The west line of the Cork right property. The lane that I spoke about, which was the east line of Huddleston, was owned in part by Huddlson and in part by my father. My recollection is that about one half, or the east half of that area, between the right property in the lane that went south. Was owned by Huddleston and my father owned the west half of it. My father had a half-mile track and that half- mile track was so constructed that the back stretch was close to what is now West 8th Street and the home stretch paralleled it running east and west. And south, of course, of the backstretch. The first turn would be the east end of the track, and the second turn would the west end of track. My father had a string of box stools that he used for his own purposes. Then he had a box stool just opposite that was for the use of anyone else who wanted to use the track. In those days there were several men who were interested in running horses and a few men who made their living, practically made their life out of running horses. There were not very many men who had any harness horses besides my father's out of this race track. I don't remember how long my father used that racetrack, but my recollection is it's only a few years and then he bought some land out. Northeast of town from a man the name was Stevens and it's generally known as the game farm. He built a mile track there. He didn't have that for a short time and he bought some land out west of town, 160 acres and he built a mild track there and that track, The site of that track is now what is known as the Gilbert. Additions are being made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=346.76,573.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's out in what we call the Bethel area, I believe. The Gilbert addition is what we now know as Bethel. I think that's included in the Bethal area. Then I think you mentioned one time there was still another racetrack near where the old Eugene High School, what's now the Woodrow Wilson Junior High School is on 17th the Amazon are in there. Immediately, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=575.14,603.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e South of what we know as the Amazon, and next to Willamette Street there was a half-mile track that was owned and built by John Stewart. There was a house over on the west side of Willamett Street and the last house on the West side of Willamete Street going south is owned by Amanda Lima Whitney, who is a minister. This half-mile track was built in the black Dolby soil. It might be of interest to say that in 18 and... Spring of 18, no, fall of 1894, a football game was played with the University of Oregon team and Forest Grove, or whether it was Forest Grove College or whatever that institution is. And I didn't see the game, I was at Ann Arbor that year, but I... Told by a good many people who saw the game that you couldn't recognize one man from another because of the black dubious all over them, because in the winter time it was tough. Once in a while somebody says that's the first game football has ever played by the University of Oregon, but that's not correct. The first game of football that's ever played the University of Oregon was paid on. March 24, 1894, University of Oregon theme in Albany College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=603.97,703.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think Cal Young coached that team. He was the coach, yes sir. I've often wondered, I've asked Cal several times if he could tell me just how he qualified as a football coach and Cal says that's a great secret, you know? 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That's the explanation for Cal Young being coached.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=727.65,751.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now, Judge, you've mentioned these tracks which they had around the town. As I get it, they were used largely, a large part of the time, for training purposes. Were there ever any races actually held here in Eugene? 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But once in a while you'd see if you would encounter a quarter-mile horse, it wouldn't be any good for it except for a quarter mile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=773.94,823.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did these, were these race meets like what we have today or were they more or less private matches?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=827.12,834.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, as a matter of fact, there weren't any race meets to speak of, such as you are used to now. These horses that were in training would be taken to the state fair. If there was a fair someplace else or a race meeting someplace else, they would take them there. I remember when I was a youngster and working between school terms of school, I was working this summer time was out in the racetrack. We went out south with my father's horses. They had a fair out there, Roseburg. And, uh... Of course, the prize money didn't amount to much, but it was something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=836.63,881.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, did they have any betting on the races those days? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, they, they bet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=884.68,889.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Most of the bedding that I knew of in this area was just private bedding. There was nobody selling Paris Mutuals or selling pools. It was just beds on the side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=892.13,905.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A better had to know a little bit about horse flesh. Yes, he didn't. He was just, he was gambling and more, went more ways than one. Well now you told us last week about the high wheeled bicycle, I wish you'd tell the people something about the High Wheeled Sokeys that you used for training your trotting horses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=907.13,927.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When my father began with harness horses the sulky was a high wheeled sulky with iron rim. There was no such thing as a pneumatic-tired socket. There was not such thing even as a rubber-tared socket to begin with. And the socket, as originally made, did not describe a U from wheel to wheel. It was, while it was curved some, nevertheless it was nearer straight than it was like you. Later on came... High wheeled stocky with rubber tires and the idea of making a U out of the axle from wheel to wheel developed and then finally developed the present stocky with the low wheels. Just like here the bicycle developed. When the first bicycle I'm just kidding. The front wheel and the rear wheel made the same size, was put on the market. It was called a safety bicycle because as compared with a high wheel bicycle, that is a bicycle with a front high wheel and a small rear wheel, this new bicycle was safe. You could run into a chuck hole and you wouldn't take a header, whereas you'd take a header if you had a high-wheel bicycle. 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I think you were telling me about somebody training a horse and losing all his money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1039.7,1049.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In those days, we didn't have paper money. Ideas to speak of. We called it greenback. Nobody wanted greenbacks. They spurned greenbacks, they wanted coin. And the money consisted of gold and silver. The gold piece is $20, $10, $5 pieces. The silver, dollar pieces. And then the denominations as we use now, half an hour, two bits, 10 cents. The dollar pieces were generally called hog dollars, as the name of the public term they gave to it, hog dollars. John Stewart, one day, was driving one of his horses around the track on his father's track, Stewart track, and he had some hog dollars in his pocket. And he had a high wheelie to suck it, it wasn't a rubber tire to suck, and of course it bounced to the deal. And the dollars bounced out of his pocket. And there were some kids around there. And the kids went around the track and picked up his dollars. 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I was telling you about I was driving a colt. The colt didn't have any kicking straps on it and the colt he convinced to kick and every time the kick hit the axle and bounced me up and I bounced out. Colt went through a fence and tore loose from the sarky and out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1140.0,1165.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What did your dad say about that? 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That's correct. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1178.21,1194.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If people wanted to go north, they would take the 5th Street Road or the 8th Street road. And they would travel what we now know as Blair Street until they got out to the railroad. And then they would turn to the left and go west until they get to what was then known as the Henderson House. And they'd turn to right and go through what's now known as the Southern Pacific yard. The people didn't travel any river roads such as they travel now if they were going to Junction. 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There was not another house on the south side of what we now know as Willamett Street until you got out to about where KORE Station is. A man by the name of Waters came from Iowa. He was a horse man, too. And he built a house there. And my recollection is there was not a solitary house between the hit Whitney home. And, um... The order. Where the corner is that turns off to go to Lorraine. There wasn't another solitary house, according to my recollection at that time, on the west side of the Lamont Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1248.68,1295.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But there was no road then to Lorraine out Willam. 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Well, you'd go either, or you'd 8th Street if you want to go to the right. And going south, you'd use 8th Street again. That old 8th street county road. Yes. And that went out and wound around and went through Judkins Point and then headed on south. Oh, here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1304.92,1330.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, if I was going south, yes, you'd use the 8th Street in order to get to the county road. Now in the very earliest day, if you wanted to go to Springfield or to go on to Roseburg, you'd go out east 8th street, cross the railroad track, and when you got to cross railroad track that turned to the right. Road paralleled the railroad track until you got to Judkins Little Beyond or Judkins Point, and then you'd turn to the left and go down the river bottom and go on. You could, however, you could go to Springfield out 11th Street. But 13th Street was just a street of mud. Nobody traveled it in the earlier days. 10Th Street didn't go through. 9Th Street in the very earliest days didn't go through it. It was a dead end there at Haynes's place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1331.78,1396.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now when we came, when we drove down this afternoon, we came in over East Broadway as it's now called. It was 9th Street until people got fancy about 25 years ago and changed it to Broadway. You were describing to me some of the places in and around what's now Broadway, Franklin Boulevard, where the ice plant is. That probably...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1398.01,1428.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was the residential property of Mr. Haynes. His residential property extended from the railroad to about the equivalent of a block west. His house stood just about in the center of that area. His tannery was over on the easterly side of the railroad. 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There's a there was the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431#t=1476.32,1492.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283431/transcript/81952/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e W.H. Abrams Residence. The site of that residence is now a motel. The original residence building, constructed by Abrams probably in the 1870s, was moved across the street and is standing there. Just about opposite where it originally was. At the northeast corner of the intersection of High and East Broadway is the site of the residence of George T. Hall. Over on the south side of Broadway and next to the old mill race and where a motel now stands is the site of the William Cameron home. And before you reach the mill race coming west on high is the J.J. Lawton home which was a pioneer home. Coming on to High Street again, or close to High street. Stoogie Osworth, a lawyer, had his office on the north side, south side of East Broadway. The building that he used is now over on 8th Street between High and Pearl, and on the south side of the street. At the north-west corner of High and East Broadway is where the Baptist Church now stands. That quarter block was owned and is the site of the residence of Mark Bailey who was one of the professors at the University of Oregon. And my recollection is that he was one of the very first professors. The quarter block that is immediately west of the Bailey property and is the northeast corner of the intersection of East Broadway and Pearl Street is the property of Chris Marks, a barber. Coming back to the southwest corner of the intersection at High and west or east of Broadway was the quarter block that was owned by Aubrey, a man by the name of Aubrey. His residence was nearer the south side of his property and faced high street. The north half of the property that he owned was lower than the south half. At the corners now occupied by the Eugene Hotel was a livery stable building. Used for many years for liver stable purposes and the ground that is immediately west or east of it was used in connection with the liver stable. Later on, a man the name of Rostein moved to Eugene, and he conducted a second-hand store in that building for quite a while. Rostine bought property out on College Hill and made College Hill his home for some time. The Rostein Addition to Eugene was an addition that was planted by his son. Coming across the street on the east-northwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and Easter. Here's the location. The Christian Church. It was a brick church and faced Broadway. Immediately west of that property and indeed all the property that was between the alley that was running north and south through the block. And the Christian Church poverty was the poverty of Harrison R. Kincaid. Kincaide published a newspaper. And the newspaper building was a brick building, a one-story building, and it joined the alley that runs north and south through that fraction of a block. The The portion of the block that's west was west of, across the alley and west from the encade property. In the early days, there was a house stood just about in the middle of that fraction of a block. And The people who lived in that house were, the name was Thamer, T-H-E-I-M-E R. They were two boys, young boys, and those two boys were drowned in the Willamette River at a point in the old U that was formed by the Williamette River when it made its turn after it left near Judkins Point to go north and then come back above Ferry Street I remember that in particular, the drowning of those two boys, because Mrs. Thammer was a hard working woman and people felt awfully sorry for her and the two boys were extraordinarily fine boys. On the south side of the block between Pearl and Oak Street and on East Broadway. There was a house in the... Southwest corner of Pearl and Broadway, and that for many years was occupied by Al Alton. Al Alten ran a cigar store and one thing and another down in the same building that was formerly occupied by D.G. Hendricks when he had a store. The area that's now occupied by what originally was known as the Minor Building is now known as Eugene Medical Center. The building is immediately west of the Eugene Center Medical Building. There was a quarter block that was owned by Matt Hendricks, who was a brother. D.G. Hendricks, Matt Hendrick, Sir Holmstead. In the center of the west half of that quarter block, oh, the east half of quarter block. Now remember his woodshed was right next to the alley that runs north and south. He dealt in farming implements. During the earlier years, he had his store down on the corner where. Gabe Christman, after his constructed building, now is known as Penny's, or the old Washburn place. MacMahon and Washburn store. And then later on, Matt Hendrick had his implement business where the economy market stands, at the corner of... 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According to my earliest recollection, a one-story wooden building owned by John Reinhardt who conducted a grocery store. Later on, he transformed that building into... A theater building, and a building with a room in it where dances could be held. Reinhardt's home was over on Pearl and 10th Street at the corner, northwest corner of the intersection of East 10th and Pearl Street. Next to the Reinhardt Building. Was a building in which Ed Poole conducted a... Restaurant, principally oysters and candies and the like. M.S. Barker, who'd passed on recently, had his first store in the bearing that was immediately west of the room that was occupied by Ed Poole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=2.22,94.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's Mr. Barker, the man, he had musical instruments. That's right. He had a gun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=96.67,103.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Regenerate. A man the name of Risen, who was a pioneer here, constructed the building right next to the alley. Be on the west-east side of the alley that runs north and south, and on the north side of east to Broadway between Oak and Willamette. And that building was used for various purposes. I remember distinctly when we first moved to Eugene in 1878. There was a bakery right next to that alley. That bakery was operated by Ed Howe. It is the space that's now occupied by the Gilbert Shoe Store. Immediately west of that building was the Patterson and Miller Meat Shop. And then there was a vacant space between the meat shops. And what originally was the St. George's Hotel, now known as the Hoffman House. What, or that vacant space, or what space that was the vacant space is now occupied by Newman's Fish Place. Over on the south side of the street, the southeast corner of the intersection was where Cy Titus had his livery stable. Later years he constructed the building that stands there now known as the Titus Building. Right next to the delivery stable that Psytitis owned, according to my earliest recollection, was the tailor shop. It was run by old man Hanson, who was the father of Frank and Ed Hanson. Than immediately. The Hanson Taylor shop was the office of Dr. Patterson. Dr. Patterson's home was on East 11th Street, and he owned all of the block that was south of the mill race, and north of 11th street. Ran between, as I recollect, the Boulder and Millard Street. And then next to the alley. At a very early date, a brick building was constructed. And my recollection is that that building was constructed by Camp Grachey. Across the alley The properties that were owned by the Franks, Ray Frank and his brother, not Ray Frank, but Perry Frank and Clem Frank. Those buildings were constructed, those brick buildings were construction in an early day. And were occupied by different parties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=104.61,327.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, that brings you back to Oak Street, then on the south side of 9th Street. Now going west, going west from the Lamont on 9th Street or Broadway as it's now called, can you give us some of the landmines?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=334.77,353.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the first building, of course, was the Tom Hendricks probably, where the first national bank now is. I've spoken about that before, where he had his store, before there was a bank. Then, at the... Northeast corner of Oak and West Broadway was a property which at one time was owned by Clem Hodas, that whole quarter block. His son Will Hodas told me the other day that his father purchased that quarter block for $3,000. Sam Friendly, upon being told by I would have said purchased it for $3,000. Sam told him that he'd give him $4,000 for it. Well, there was a residence right in the... Right close to the north-east corner of the intersection of Oak and West Broadway. And then when That property was sold by Hoda Stu, He-Lai-Mangs. Bangs constructed the livery stable, and the liivery stable was right across the alley from what is now the rear of the First National Bank. The livery table faced east Broadway. My recollection is that it extended clear back to or pretty near to the alley, and the rest of the space in that quarter block was vacant. At this low ground. Over on the other side of the street at the north, at the south-west corner of the intersection of the Lammet and West Broadway was a property that was owned by G.R. Crissman, Gabe Crissmen. He constructed a two-story brick building there. There was no other building on that side of that street. Side of the street to the alley between Willamette Street and the alley west as you traveled west. At the southeast corner of the intersection of Oak and West Broadway was a brewery originally operated by a man the name of Vogel, Joe Vogel. And the due course of time that was sold to the Weinhardt Brewery Company. Yeah Brewery property, even owned by Vogel, had or had two buildings on it. One was the brewery proper and the other was his residence. The residence stood right at the southeast corner of the intersection of Broadway and Oak. Going on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Oak and West Broadway was the old camera home. And west of that, next to the alley, was a home occupied by Gainey Matthews. And across the alley the quarter dock was owned by F.M. Wilkins. I remember the first home that Wilkins had on that quarter block was a small building, two stories, with simply four walls and a v-shaped roof. And then along somewhere in about 1905 or thereabouts, he constructed a fine residential building. And occupied the building until, I think, practically until he passed on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=354.03,595.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That was the beautiful old home that stood there until a few years ago with the wide porches and the beautiful trees in the yard. That's right. That's it. And of course Mr. Wilkins having a family of beautiful daughters would have to have a nice home with porches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=596.75,613.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I don't know what the reason was. He was a drugist, and he had done well as a drug He had a fine family and he was a fine man. Across the street Where the public market now stands, that corner was originally a Libra stable. In later years... And when I say later years, I mean around about 1895 or six, somewhere in there. One of the Crane brothers purchased the property and constructed a residence. And subsequently it was purchased by J.M. Williams, a lawyer, and that whole quarter block now is used by the public market. Immediately west of that quarter block was a property that was owned and occupied by and a neighbor, Hannah. Proceeding on west, at the northwest corner of the intersection of Charlton Street and West Broadway is the site of the home of T.G. Hendricks. He owned that area from Charlton street. And we're back to... What is now Lincoln Street. My earliest recollection is that What is now known as Broadway was a dead end where when you reach the point that is now known as Lincoln Street. And my parents came to Eugene in 1878. The building that stood at the southwest corner of the intersection of In Charlton and East Broadway was a Sam Holt property, a fine two-story residential building. And my parents lived in a building that was immediately west of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=615.07,774.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You were telling me, Judge, about an interesting little episode that happened on the boardwalk crossing at Charnelton and 9th Street, right in front of what is now the public market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=778.17,791.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In those days, which would be somewhere between 1878 and 1880, there was no such thing as a paved street. There was no thing such as a concrete sidewalk. All the sidewalks were made of concrete. The crosswalks on the street were made of heavy plank, and as a rule, a crosswalk was made of three lengths of heavy planks. The middle length would be so laid that the surface would be practically on a level with the surface of the road, of the gravel in the road. And as a rule, the lengths that were between the middle length and the sidewalk on each side would be, they would not be on the ground, but they would be the underneath surface of the planks would be above the ground. My mother and her sister had been down in town. On this occasion, they took me along. I was a youngster, somewhere between five and seven years old. And when we came back... When I got across the middle length of the plank, my mother grabbed me. I didn't know what it was all about. She grabbed me because there's a rattlesnake there between the sidewalk and about the middle of the planks that were on the west side of the road, of the street. There's a man unloading some wood next to the livery stable that used to be there where the public market is. And my mother and her sister hollered at him and he came over and killed a rattlesnake. Later on in the day my father came by and he cut the rattles off and there were eight rattles. It developed that the man had been hauling some hay a couple of days before that from the Spencer Creek area where there's lots of rattlesnakes. It was assumed that This rattlesnake was hauled in on that load of hay, or on one load of Hay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=793.02,949.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now Judge, can you take us over on 10th Street and give us some of the old landmarks there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=954.5,960.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we'd go back to High Street and go west. At the south, or at the northwest corner of the intersection of High and East 10th, the quarter block was owned by J.H. McClung. His residence stood on that location. He was a partner of A.J. Johnson. It was McClun and Johnson. They conducted a dry-good store at the corner where the Tiffany Building is now on Willamette Street. The quarter block that stood on the northeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East 10th was owned by J.S. Lucky, Joe Lucky. As I explained to you, he married one of the daughters of Elias Stewart, commonly known as Evan Stewart. Jewelocky was a jeweler. He lived there in that location for a great many years. There was, across the street from the Lucky property and at the southeast corner of the intersection of Pearl and East. Was the home of A.V. Peters. A. V. Peters was a Frenchman. He came to this country, according to my recollection, along about the end of the Civil War, which would be in the latter part of the At the corner across the street and south of where Joe Lucky lived, and the place where Joe Lucky live is now occupied by the Greyhound Stages. I'm not sure as to the date when A.V. Peters can build his home, but it must have been either in the late 1860s or the very early 1870s. Residents that he constructed that that location was moved over to Lincoln Street, and it is now known as 1616 Lincoln Street and is the home of Judge C.A. Wennermeyer. The northwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and East 10th was the site of the old John Reinhardt resident. Quaterblah. Northeast corner of Oak and East 10th was the home of Charles Conner, a pioneer. Over at the, or going back rather, to the southwest corner of Pearl and East 10th was the home of a man by the name of Stansberry. He lived there a great many years. Over a course of a good many years, there were always three or four students who roamed at the Stansberry home. Stansbury's daughter, Maggie, married Bill Kamel, who built a home upon East 9th Street near what used to be the mill race. Bill Kamle was a brother of John Kamel and Ari Kamel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=965.47,1211.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The Campbells were publishers of one of the newspapers, is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1212.7,1216.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e John Camel and Iry Camel published the Eugene Guard. Now coming on west on East 10th, a man by the name of Quatum lived at the northwest corner of that intersection. Next to him and west of him was John O'Brien, who married a daughter of Psi Titus. Had his home. John O'Brien was the section foreman of the Southern Pacific section crew. In those days, the section crew consisted of Chinaman and nobody else. Over on the southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and B. Stent is where Father Newman Johnson lived. He was a brick mason. And next to him, and west of him, was the home of a man by the name of Durant. Then at the southeast corner of the intersection of East 10th and Willamette was the home of Sam Friendly. And south of him, and facing Willamett Street, was the Home of George B. Doris. The George B Doris home is still in existence. When we go home, I'll show it to you when we go. Over on the west side of Baramett and on 10th Street, which would be at the northwest corner, the intersection of Barhamett and West 10th, was the Swift home. Family, the name is Swift, lived on that corner many years. And roomed at the Swift home for a good many years. In I think close to about 1900, maybe a little after that, a building was constructed at that corner and the building that had been used as the swift home was moved back next to the alley and it stood there for many years. It's only been a few years ago, and in addition, I've written... Building addition was made to the original structure and the old Swift home was destroyed. Over in the southwest corner of the intersection of Veramette and West End is where the original Methodist church stood. The original Methodists church was a long building with a tower at the west end, east end, and it faced Maramette Street. In due course of time, and my recollection is that it was prior to 1900. That building was moved. Over on the corner, the northeast corner of East 11th and Willamette Street and was used as the Catholic Church. The original Methodist church building was moved so that they could construct a new building. And the new Methodist Church building was constructed at the southwest corner. West 10th and Milan Street was used for a very considerable time and until the present Methodist Church was constructed. An authorized coroner of the intersection of... West 10th and Alley Street, where the Masonic Building now is. Was the property of and residence of S.M. Yoran. The The property that was immediately west of the SM urine home and across the alley going west was vacant probably for many years. On the south side of east, a west end between Oliver and Charlton. There was the home of Fred Bellman and the rest of that block was for much of the time vacant. Proceeding west on 10th Street, at the corner of the northwest corner of West Hanson Charmin's treatment of the home of our ex-governor Whitaker. And immediately, across the street from him was the home which Eniko Holt originally built and was afterwards acquired by G.R. Prisman. Immediately west of the Christman property was the home of Mr. Osborne, I have forgotten his initials, however, he was the father of the man after whom the Osborne Hotel was named. What originally was the Enich-Holt property and subsequently the T.R. Christmas property and the adjoining property owned by Osborne. Is now owned by the Catholic Church, and they have their buildings and playgrounds on those properties. West 10th Street was a dead end, just as West 9th Street was. And it did not, in the early days, proceed beyond the Osborne property, or state of difference, may it did not proceed beyond a point that is now about where Lincoln Street is. Going over to the North, north side of Ant Street again. The University of Oregon was opened in 1876. John W. Johnson was the first president. My parents lived, as I've stated before, immediately west of the San Juan property. Residents occupied by my parents faced West 9th Street. I am not sure whether there was an alley running east and west through that block at that time. I am doubtful as to whether there is one. However, immediately... South of the place where my parents had their home was a residential building and that building stood in behind. The Whittaker home, and this building that stood in behind the Whettaker home was the home of John W. Johnson at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1215.89,1720.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He was also a neighbor when you lived down in the vicinity of Fifth Street, too, wasn't he? Yes. Well, now you've given us quite a picture of the town of that period of merchants and lawyers, doctors, livery stable people, a great many livery staple people, printers, artisans. What was considered That was considered a good annual income in those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1724.86,1755.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I would not be a competent judge by any means as to that question. Until... I had attained the age of at least. 18 or 19 or 20 years, but I just don't know having the slightest idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1757.889,1786.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You have any idea what, for instance, our college professors were paid those days? No, I don't have any information from that subject. What I'm trying to get at is to get a picture of the economy of the town. Of course, it stands to reason they had much less money income than we have, but a great deal of equivalent comfort and satisfaction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1788.63,1811.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the people, generally. Lived comfortably, measured by the standards of those days. They had food, they had clothing, and if they became sick, medical attention was available. But of course they did not have many of the things which nowadays are considered necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1819.05,1847.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Relative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428#t=1849.87,1849.87"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283428/transcript/81950/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/081/950/original/trint_UA180_b001_sr175k_transcript.vtt?1753738558","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/081/950/original/trint_UA180_b001_sr175k_transcript.vtt?1753738558"}]}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 11 of 12 - UA180_b001_sr175l.wav"]},"duration":896.84,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/content/11/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/423/original/UA180_b001_sr175l.wav?1753383074","type":"Audio","format":"audio/wav","duration":896.84,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AUTO_TRINT_UA180_b001_sr175l.wav [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We now stand at the intersection of 10th and Waramette Street. At the southwest corner of the intersection of West End and Willamette Street was the original Methodist church. It was a long building, one story in height, and had a square tower at the west end, east end, the east end. And this building faced veramics trees. In due course of time, the building was removed to the northeast corner of the intersection of 11th and Willamette Street, and it was there used as the Catholic Church. The building was acquired by the Catholic church, period. The Methodists constructed a new building at the southwest corner of the intersection of 10th and Moran Street, and they occupied that as a church until they built the present. Methodist church built. There was no building on that corner block south of the Methodist Church that I recall. However, in the quarter block which would be the northwest corner of the intersection of 11th and Lamb Street, was a building that was known as the Blaine Place. A family by the name of Blaine lived in it. It was built a good deal like some of the colonial buildings in the South. The northwest corner of the northwest corner of the intersection of 11th and Willamette was later occupied by a church constructed by the Christian church. The original Christian church was a brick building At the northwest corner East night and pearl And the second building occupied by the Christian Church was this building that was the northwest corner of 11th and Loran. Going over on the east side of the block between 10th and 11th, at the southeast corner of the intersection of 10th to 11th is the SH-friendly home, the home faced by Lambert Street. The south half of that quarter block and facing Willamette Street was the George B. Doris home. An alley had then as now around the east and west. And on the south side of that alley, for a long time, was a vacant space. As I stated before. The building that was originally the Methodist Church was moved to that quarter block and was used as the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church constructed between the church building and the alley a two-story building. And used it as a school, as I recollected. The first... And the Catholic Church in Eugene was Father Beck, and he lived in a little house that was on the south side of Willamette Street between Oak and Willamett Street, south side, 11th Street, between Oak to Willamete. Later on, Father Shabelsky succeeded Father Beck. And Father Shabelsky lived in the house that is on the north side of the street and immediately east of the church. Father Schabelsky was a highly educated man and could speak, read, and write seven languages, as I recollected. At any rate, he was a very interesting personality. He spelled his name P-R-Z-Y-B-L-S-K-I, but pronounced it Schabilsky. Standing at the intersection of 11th and Willamette Street and looking to the right was the original public school. The public school building occupied the north half of the block, bounded on the north by 11th, and on the east by Willamett and the west by Olive Street. Next to the public school property. And facing Willamette Street was the home of F.W. Osborne, and on down Willamett Street a little ways is where Tom Seeger lived. The house that was farther south on Willamete Street was known as the property of Reverend Whitney, a minister. The House was just this of what we now know as a... Amazon slew. There were a few houses over on the east side of the street between the 11th and a point in front of the Whitney Place, but not very many. At the corner, where now stands the city library, was the home of Captain Gray. And he, later on, exposed to that poverty by selling it to the Huffman boys, Henry and Jane. And Henry and James and later on moved down into the Pettig block here on Palama Street between 9th and 8th. There was no, there was not a single building. On Willamette Street, south of the Whitney property, until you reached what is now the KORE station. A man by the name of Waters came here from Iowa and built a home in that, just about that place. And there was no house on the east side of Willamett Street, as I remember it there, If you cross what is now... 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Included E. H. Lauer, commonly known as Manny. He and I were classmates in the University of Oregon. And included the eldest daughter, Carrie, who after is married to a man by the name of Saul Baum in Portland. And there are a couple of other girls. The Lauer family was a splendid family. Leave. Their home was the scene of occasional parties, and the same was true of the S.H. Friendly family. They had parties, the youngsters did, and the young folks. There were several girls in the SH-friendly family, and the Goldsmith family likewise. Charles and Julius and several girls and these three Jewish families were the principle of Jewish families in town. The Betmans were Jewish but they had one youngster And my recollection is that he came after my earlier days. But those families were among the most prominent families in Eugene. People didn't pay any attention to racial distinctions. There was no such thing as classes. Everybody stood on his and her own feet. There just simply wasn't any more pleasant, sociable, and agreeable place to go than to either the Friendlies or the Lowers or the Goldsmiths.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=481.01,610.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now Willamette Street had no pavement, just a rock and dirt surface in those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=615.97,621.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The first pavement. And Eugene was made of basaltic rock taken out of the west end of the Skinner's Butte. And that's why when you go up Skinner Butte on that road, you see that quarry on the west end. To debut. And the first paving operation. 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I don t think it was crushed by hands. I can't be sure about that, but I think it s done by a machine of some kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=667.71,676.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They have dust trouble in those days on the streets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=678.36,680.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, the way they did, they'd have mud in the winter, and then they'd clean that mud off. Soon towards the spring, if they could, then they'd all gravel on it. 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I remember that there was a lamp at the corner of the Hovina Fribank. That'd be the northwest corner of the intersection of 8th and Meramit. And there was lamp down at what we now know as 9th Street. And I think there was a lamp 7th and parameter also. According to my recollection, there weren't any lamps at all except on Willamette Street. I don't recall any other lamps being anyplace else. I don t remember what year our electric lighting system came in, but it was somewhere along about 85, 1886, somewhere in there. But until that time, this was a lamp system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=720.78,773.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I suppose every family had lanterns, people carried lanterns when they went out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=774.32,778.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes, everybody had time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=780.4,781.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What about the trading system? Now these stores, there are more stores here than could exist on the number of people in the town. There must have been quite a wide trade with the outside country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=783.64,798.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In those days, horse and buggy days, Saturdays were the days when people from the farms came to town to do their trading. And the area from which people came was large, because they didn't have stores in every little crossroad like every crossroad. Had but few stores outside of places like Eugene, Irving, Springfield, and Junction City, Goshen. People had to come to town to do their trading. And the farmers made it their business to come to town on Saturday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=800.26,847.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When I was at, uh, largely a cash or credit or a seasonal payment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423#t=848.34,852.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283423/transcript/81944/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I wouldn't know anything about that, I mean from actual experience, but my idea about it is that the farmers probably in a large measure did their trading on the credit basis because their income was seasonal. 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At the southwest corner of the intersection of Hilliard and East Broadway is where E.C. Smith lived. A.C. Smith and George D. Hall, partners of Smith and Hall, for a great many years carried on a grocery store in Eugene in a building that recently, that until recently and for some time was occupied by Kerry. Immediately west of the Smith Place was a home occupied by Mrs. Beatty and her two daughters. I, Laura Beatty was one daughter, Jenny Beatty was the other daughter. The two daughters attended the university and graduated there. I married Jenny Beaty in 1904. This block and on this south side of the street is the block where the W.H. Abrams home was moved. Originally, Abrams' home stood on the north side of the street. At the southwest corner of the intersection of Hilliard, Patterson, and East Broadway is the site of a home that E. R. Lucky built. This was a large home. E.R. Lucky was a brother of J.S. Lucky and a brother of Warren Lucky. E. R. Lucky had been in the cattle business in eastern Oregon. And he had prospered. And he came to Eugene, my recollection is, in the latter part of the 1880s. It may have been in early part of 1890s. There were two boys, Walter and Tad, and a daughter who became very distinguished. Tad Lucky operated the Lucky cigar store for a long time in Eugene, and he has passed on, and his son is now the operator of that place of business. Immediately west of the lucky home was the home of the Veazys. The parent VZ and Arthur VZ. Were the two boys. Each one graduated the university and each one became a lawyer and practiced in Portland. And each one was a splendid lawyer. There were two daughters. One was Julia Veazey who married to Professor Glenn. The other was Edith Veazee who married at E.R. Bryson, immediately west of the VZ property. Was the bear camera place, William Cameron. My recollection is his initials were William T. Cameron. He married Maggie Stansberry, daughter of the Mr. Stansbury who lived at... The southwest corner of the intersection of Pearl and East 10th Street. Bear camera. Constructed a splendid home on the bank of the milleries. This home was on the south side of East Hampton, as I said, immediately west of the VZ home. The story went around to the effect that Bell said at one time that he never completed his home because he had the idea that if he did complete it, he would not live any longer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1.43,291.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And so the house, as you remember, it was always some work being done on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=295.36,299.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So far as the exterior was concerned, the exterior was completed, but my understanding is that he did not complete the interior. Bill Kamel was a very capable man, and he was a brother of John Kamel and Irie Kamel. John and I owned and conducted the Eugene Guard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=299.8,320.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, now we'll go off, go away from Broadway and go back. To 11th Street in the vicinity of the university. Coming down today, we came down off of the hills in Fairmount. And I think it would be interesting if the judge would tell us a little bit about the first homes up on the Fairmount hill and then what lay in that area east of the University in his boyhood days before we come to 11 Street. The first home that was built","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=322.55,358.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e on the ridge now occupied by the Jewelettes and the Washburn homes and other homes in that area was built by Martin Swarvard. A Martin Swarbrick. And his brother lived in Eugene a good many years. There was no other home in that area except the home of the marshes. The marsh home was not on the top of the ridge, but it was down close to the foot of the rage, and not far from what is now. Columbia and Fairmount Boulevard, the intersection of Columbia and Fairmount boulevard. That entire area and what we know as the farm has a Fairmount area, my earliest recollection with the exception of the two homes that I've mentioned, did not have on it any houses at all. A man by the name of Chichester. Live there. In a home which, as I recollected, was facing on what is now known as University Street. Not far from the location of the herb memorial home. The George Collier home, which is still in existence. Was the only house that was south of what's now, of what was then the university campus. I mean by that, the only house that was across the street from the University campus. At that time, the University Campus was bounded on the east by what is now University Street, in the south by 13th Street, and on the west by what's now known as Kincaid Street, and on to the north by 11th Street and the railroad track.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=360.15,507.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That old call your home was later the president's house and now the faculty club. That's it. Yes, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=508.39,514.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the first athletic field the university had was what was then known as Kincade Park. It was the area that was west of the Kincades property and east of Kincadestreet projected south. 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The fir trees that are standing there now were then very small trees, not much higher than... Of the ordinary sized man. The street known as Kincaid Street was not graded. It was not used at all in the winter and at very little in the summer. And 13th Street was used but very little. The travel was all on 11th Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=556.52,664.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you said there was a style or an offense around the campus at that time. 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And then you'd be on the top, and then you would step down the three steps, That served as a part of the fence and yet served to have a way to get into the campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=678.59,726.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that was to keep the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=729.53,730.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e cattle out of the campus. Yes, everybody, at that time I see everybody and nearly everybody had a cow and people fenced their yards and fenced to their poverty against livestock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=730.97,745.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now I think you said there were one or two houses down on 13th Street, or what is now 13th street, down the road west of the University that you might mention. I think that you said that there was Mrs. Spiller's home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=748.03,762.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't recall the exact location of the Spiller Hall, but Mrs. Spiller was a member of the faculty and she lived in a house, my recollection is it was on 13th Street. Barely possible it was 12th, but I'm not sure about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=764.03,781.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We're now taking up the line of 11th Street from what is now Alder Street. Can you tell us about some of the early homes on that thoroughfare?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=784.95,795.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Applied by the Bible school was a vacant block for many, many years and indeed until the time when the Bible school took over the property and constructed the buildings on it. Over on the north side of that street. Was the Patterson property. Dr. Patterson owned the entire area that was between the 11th Street and the mill race and between Alder and... Hilliard Street. My recollection is that these homes stood just about in the center of the park. Across the street in that southwest southeast corner of the intersection of Hilliard and I see. Hilliard and 11th. Hilliards and 11ths is where the Lins lived. Fletcher Lynn and Davey Lynn. Then, they're across the street from the Patterson property, which would be between Hilliard and Patterson Street, is where Professor Straw lived. His home, at that time, was nearer... Your dentist was Patterson. And over on the south side of 11th Street, near the corner of Hilliard, is where the McClure family lives. There were a number of mature boys who attended the university and all of them graduated. From the university and each of them became prominent in his field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=798.98,951.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Afterwards was that the professor McClure for whom McClura Hall was named. Yes, Edgar McClury was one of the McClurer brothers","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=952.75,960.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e and Lauder, John, among them. Edgar was killed by the group of people who were climbing the mountain. I forgot the year, but Edgar McClure was a very fine professor. He was a splendid teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=960.98,987.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh... What did he teach? Did he teach the sciences up here or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=991.66,997.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he... He talked to her. My recollection is that he talked, uh... Algebra, but I'm not sure about that Among the residences on 11th Street was one that was owned and occupied by H.E. Owen. He was a prominent character in Eugene, and, um... Two of his children were students at the university, a daughter. Graduated and became a very distinguished person in her activities. And the Owen family is one of the pioneer families of Lane County.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=998.56,1069.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe you said that Han Owens, I believe he was called? He was called Han Owen. Was the grandfather of our present councilman. Yes, George Owens. I don't know, Frank's done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1071.22,1085.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Frank Dunn, a son of F.B. Dunn who was a merchant in Eugene. And whose home was located about where the present Christian Church is, acquired the east portion of the Hinn-Owen property, and he and Frank Dunn built a home there. And he lived in that home until he passed on and his widow lived during the many years after his passing until she passed on lately. Where the site of the present Eugene Manor is the site of the home of E.J. McClanahan. E. J. McClanihan was a pioneer in this area. In the old stage days, before the railroad was constructed, E. J. McCanahan, generally known as Ed McClanuhan, drove stage on the stage line. Standing from Portland descent to Oakland, California. At the southeast corner of High and East 11 was the home of E. Baum. Baum carried on a sort of a notion store, conducted a sort of notion store. His place of business was in the building that recently was used or occupied by Harry and is now occupied by a valet painting company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1088.98,1215.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, condoms, guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1220.41,1222.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thomas Condon. One of the members of the faculty of the University of Oregon and one who attained distinction as a geologist. Had his last home at the southwest corner. Of High and West 11th, East 11th. And across the street, and at the northwest corner of East 11 and High, was where Rodney Scott lived. Rodney Scott was a pioneer. We had a home originally over near Hayden's Bridge. He moved to Eugene, and after he moved to Eugene he was elected county judge, built his home, and his daughter Doed Scott was the first librarian in the University of Oregon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1226.15,1291.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that the Scot for whom the Scot trail was named upon the Mackenzie or was that a relative?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1292.56,1297.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I am not sure about that. They at the southeast corner of East 11th and Pearl is where Dr. Sharples lived. And at the northeast corner of that intersection is where Dr. D.A. Payne lived. At the northwest corner of the intersection is were Goldsmith, who conducted a grocery store on Moranet Street, lived. Then in that same block, which would be the northeast corner of the intersection of... Pearl. The intersection of Pearl and East 11th is where Joe Gray lived. Joe Gray was connected with the Eugenia Flowering Mill and was a prominent character in the array of...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1304.01,1381.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Affairs of Lane County. I think you told me that the the old Dr. Payne home there at the northeast corner of 11th and Pearl eventually became the first fraternity house. That's correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1382.13,1397.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's correct. I've forgotten the name of the fraternity, but the first fraternity that connected with University of Oregon lived in that home. It was its home. It acquired it from the Dr. Payne family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1397.47,1414.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd hesitate to say it was sigma nu, but I think that might be it. I think, that's it. I think it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1415.35,1421.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Sigma Nu, but because I know that Dick Smith was a member of the fraternity and I think it was Sigma Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1421.97,1431.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now we come to the Delano place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1434.0,1435.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't even know. W.L. Delino and F.W. Osborne was partners in the drugstore business. They had their drugstore at a location which is now... Occupied by the north half of the First National Bank. And Delino lived. Of my soft hair. From what the South had, but on the South side of East Palamic Street and practically across from where the goldsmiths lived. I mean, he's delivered, yes. Zeroes out. Between Oak and the limit and on the east and on the north side of East 11 that was occupied by the Alexander family. Mr. Alexander worked in the guard office when the guard office was located on Willamette Street near the corner grocery store that was owned by Lester Beckler. Alexander has worked for the Guard for a good many years. Then the southwest corner of the intersection of Oak and East 11th Street was vacant ground. F.B. Dunn's home, as I've stated before, was located at a site that is not far from the outside of the present Christian church, and done on the... An area that extended to East 11th Street, and there was no building, no improvements of any kind upon the north portion of the area owned by F.B. Dunn. At the south-east corner of the intersection of East, the 11th and Willamette Street was where the library is, City Library now is, was a home which, as I remember, was built by Captain Gray. And then that place was afterwards the home of Henry and James Hoffman, brother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1437.85,1613.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e May I interrupt? This Captain Gray, I believe, was captain of one of the riverboats, that, uh, he was the man who...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1616.3,1623.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Who brought the city of Eugene up to Eugene one winter day when the river was up. The Catholic Church was, at that time, was located at the northeast corner of East 11 and Willamette Streets. The building that was occupied and used as the Catholic Church originally stood at southwest corner of the intersection of 10th and Willamette Streets. And was constructed by the Methodist Church. The Methodist Church moved that building and sold it to the Catholic Church. And the Methodist church was, and the Methodists constructed the new building at the southwest corner of the intersection of Willamette and West End. The building that was moved to the northeast corner of the intersection of East 11th and Maramette Street was occupied by the Catholic Church for some time. My recollection is that Father Beck was the first priest, and I know that his home was a one-story building immediately east of the gray residence. Afterwards... Father Shabilsky was the priest. And my recollection is that Father Shabiltsky lived in a house. That was immediately east of the church and on the north side of the 11th Street. It might be of interest to you when I tell you that Shibelsky was spelled, as I recall it, P-R-Z-Y-B-L-S-K-I, but he pronounced it Shibelksy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1625.01,1763.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now going west of Willamette on 11th, there wasn't much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1767.38,1771.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, there wasn't. On the south half of the block that faced Willamette on the east and west 11th on the south, had no building on it at all facing Willamett Street except a two-story residence occupied by a family the name of Blaine. In the north half of the block, on the other side of the street, the south side of 11th Street, between Willamette and Olive Street, was the public school building. And it was located in practically the center of the north of that block.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1773.51,1821.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And then was there anything west of Olive and on between there and Lincoln?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1824.13,1827.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e For the evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1829.24,1829.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1830.28,1830.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Except the home of J.D. Matlock, which was located practically at the northeast corner of the intersection of Charlton and... West 11th. And my recollection is that at the southwest corner of that intersection is where Rufus Robinson lived. Rufus Robinson owned and conducted a candy and ice cream store on Willamette Street, and his place of business was fairly close to the north side of what was in the St. Charles Hotel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1830.97,1880.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that was about the limit of 11th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1883.72,1885.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That was about the limit of 11th Street, because 11th street was a dead end before about the time it got to Lincoln Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1886.62,1892.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432#t=1896.53,1896.53"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2316/collection_resources/154406/file/283432/transcript/81954/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/081/954/original/trint_UA180_b001_sr175m_transcript.vtt?1753738583","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/081/954/original/trint_UA180_b001_sr175m_transcript.vtt?1753738583"}]}]}]}