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Growing up, her social life was centered on the Temple Emanu El Youth Group in Cleveland. Enid attended college between 1968 and 1972 and studied home economics and child development. She was a member of the Eugene WYMPROV! comedy troupe from 1987 to 2017. At radio station KLCC, she worked as a disc jockey on her radio show, \"Women's Music\" from 1981 to 1998. She discusses being a part of Baleboostehs, a Jewish lesbian group; various collective restaurants in Eugene; her relationship; Referendum 51 in Eugene; the Oregon Citizens Alliance; healthcare; and aging. She concludes her interview by discussing the joys of living in Eugene and the nature of the community.\n\nKey terms: Aging; Amateur theater; Antisemitism; Baleboostehs; Collectives; Coming out (sexual orientation); Eugene (Or.)  --  Social conditions; Community Center for the Performing Arts (WOW Hall); Community life; Gertrude's Café (restaurant); Improvisation (Acting); Jews -- Oregon; Judaism; KLCC (Radio station : Eugene, Or.); Lane Community College (Eugene, Or.); Marriage equality; Monogamy; Ordinances, Municipal  --  Oregon -- Eugene; Public radio -- Oregon -- Eugene; Referendum 51; Restaurants; Temple Circle (Cleveland, Ohio); Wallflower Order Dance Collective; Wild Iris (restaurant); WOW Hall; WYMPROV!; Zoo Zoo's (restaurant)."]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Enid Lefton (Interviewee)","Judith L. Raiskin (Interviewer)","Linda Long (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://scua.uoregon.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/607016"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Moving Image"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project Collection consists of interviews of 83 people for the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project, conducted by Professor Judith Raiskin and Curator Linda Long at the University of Oregon starting in the summer of 2018."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/029/original/uo-logo-hires.png?1580744881","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/325/small/Coll520_do028.jpg?1637165499","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Coll520_do028.mp4"]},"duration":4146.176,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/325/small/Coll520_do028.jpg?1637165499","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/130/325/original/Coll520_do028.mp4?1637165499","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4146.176,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["778_Coll520_do028_aligned [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: This interview is part of the Eugene Lesbian Oral History project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=5.49,9.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The recordings will be made available through the University of Oregon Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives. This oral history interview with Enid Lefton on August 2, 2018, taking place in the University of Oregon Libraries’ recording studio in the Center for Media and Educational Technologies. The interviewers are Linda Long, Curator of Manuscripts in the UO Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives, and professor Judith Raiskin of the UO Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies. Enid, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project, and that you give your permission for the university to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=12.29,61.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yes, I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=61.86,62.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you very much. Why don't we just begin with some basic questions, why don't you tell us where you were born, where you grew up and something about your early background?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=62.8,70.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Okay, well I was born, I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio in a pretty average— I was born in 1950, so pretty average, I think, '50s, post- war suburban childhood. I had two— a younger brother and an older brother. My parents owned a restaurant and delicatessen with my uncle. So, the whole family worked there and that was, our lives centered around the restaurant. It was definitely like a center for the community, a gathering place for the community. I guess you'd call that my first home, our house was our second home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=70.95,119.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you work in the restaurant?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=119.61,121.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I did work in the restaurant. I was, bussed tables when I was younger, worked the soda fountain making chocolate phosphates and things like that, and then I was a waitress for a long time, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=121.34,133.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As soon as I could get out of there, I did, but all my cousins worked there, and my aunts and uncles and my parents. Yeah, that was our lives for— just the restaurant was our lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=136.81,149.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where abouts in Cleveland was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=150.42,151.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: University Heights, the eastern suburbs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=152.18,154.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=154.55,154.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: In the middle of Jewish neighborhoods and you know, the restaurant's still there actually, somebody else owns it, bought it like thirty years ago, but it's still there, same menu—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=154.75,166.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you eat most of your meals there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=166.72,167.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah or else, we'd eat there or when I was older, when we were older, my mother worked there and so she would bring home food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=167.42,178.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She'd call up and say, \"What do you want for dinner?\" I grew up eating a lot of steak and things like that, yes. I ate well, and lots of corned beef sandwiches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=178.26,189.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was very shy growing up and when I was older, I didn't ever date. I didn't come out until I was twenty-four, but I did not— I knew there was something different about me. I was really involved in my temple youth group, that's where most of my social life was when I was in high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=193.49,214.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When you said you felt there was something different about you, what did that feel like? Or what did you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=214.85,220.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I just always felt like I didn't belong, you know, I always felt on the outside, like I say, I was very shy. Being involved in the youth group I had a really good group of friends and I kind of came out of my shell a little bit there, I was a song leader and things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=220.57,237.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you interested in music in high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=241.43,244.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah, I played the guitar, and I was the song leader, like I say there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=244.8,250.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wrote song parodies, I actually wrote a complete play about youth group called, Youth Group on The Roof, and it was this parody of Fiddler on the Roof. I was always doing things like that and putting on shows for the family when we'd have family gatherings. My parents were really into Broadway musicals, so they would take us to musicals that came to Cleveland, I remember seeing Oliver and I don't remember what else, but you know. I just had the sense of, I really enjoyed all kinds of music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=251.95,292.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When you say that you were ready to leave—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=292.71,293.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=293.1,293.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Or couldn't wait to get out, what does that mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=293.65,298.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well I mean, I think it's probably not unusual for anybody when they're a teenager to want something different. I went off to Columbus at Ohio State, which was a different experience, but once again I was still very shy and hung out with all my friends in the dorm, but you know never dated, never knew why I didn't date. I did have a total crush on my best friend and had a pretty intense relationship with her until she met a guy and that kind of ended that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=298.39,338.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was there pressure for you to date men?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=338.52,340.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, not at all. No, I never got any pressure like that. Like I say, my social life was a lot hanging out with a bunch of people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=340.67,349.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, what years were you in college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=349.33,351.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Sixty eight to '72. I was at Ohio State during, when Kent State happened. When the students were killed, and we had the National Guard on your campus and tear gas everywhere and I watched students getting beat up and things. School closed and we had to go home for a couple weeks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=351.44,375.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And these were anti-war protests?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=375.13,376.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Anti-war, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=376.5,377.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Were you involved in any of the protests?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=377.31,379.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, I wasn't. I was not very involved at all. It definitely had an effect on me. I do remember going, when they closed the school down, at that time I was living in the dorm and I used to like, my commons where I ate my meals, we had to cross the street from the dorm, and I can remember there was National Guard soldiers marching, basically through my living room, I felt like. Then on the way home there was also a trucker strike, and they had called out the National Guard because it was pretty violent, too. Driving on the freeway home, there were National Guard on the overpasses. I remember coming home and saying to my friend, \"This is it, life is never going to be the same, you know?\" And it did kind of go back to more normal, but it was very— I remember that period very well. That feeling of having tear gas everywhere. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=379.51,437.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you study in college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=437.42,439.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I got my degree in Home Ec and Family and Child Development.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=439.64,443.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mostly, because I didn't know what I wanted to do, and I saw the preschool on campus one day, and I thought, well I like little kids. I did that for a while, but then one day I all of a sudden realized, I can talk to adults now, so I don't need to do this anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=445.72,464.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: You said that you felt that you were different somehow, when did things click for you, about sexuality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=464.59,475.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, I do remember when I said I had this, my best friend from high school, and she also went to Ohio State, and she had a class in the same building as me, right after my class, so I’d run into her every once in a while. I remember the class I was taking was a psychology class, and they were talking about deviant behavior and the day we talked about homosexuality I was like, \"Ooh, hm, no, no, no, not me.\" And I remember walking out and seeing my girl friend there and going, that was a weird feeling, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=475.51,510.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, homosexuality was taught under deviant behavior?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=510.51,513.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Deviant behavior. Yeah, mm-hmm [affirmative]. With prostitution and I don't remember what else, but yeah. I actually came out in 1974, with somebody that I met at a NOW meeting, which I thought was pretty—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=513.59,537.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: The National Organization for Women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=537.98,538.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: National Organization for Women, yes. I went there, I'm not sure why I went to this NOW meeting, but they had this rap groups where we just sat around and talked about feminism, and those lights going on about, oh yeah, there's the patriarchy and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=538.74,560.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We formed a— and this is kind of where music really started happening— we formed a group called, it was two men and three women from NOW, and we called ourselves “Sugar and Spite” and we did original feminist music, mostly, yeah. That 45 single that I showed you is a recording of a couple of our songs that we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=563.79,589.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: From the '70s then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=589.15,589.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: From the '70s, yeah from 1975, '76, yeah. When I was living in Columbus at this time, and when I first came out, I got involved with a music production, concert production group, called the Women's Music Union, and we brought different music, women's performers, and this is in '76, '77. Like, for instance Cris Williamson who was kind of a big women's music star at the time, or just coming. And then, I remember we brought this dance troupe called Wallflower Order from some town called Eugene, Oregon that I'd never heard of. So I did that. Also involved in a multimedia presentation called Women Against Violence Against Women, and we did skits and readings and music and stuff in that. And then when I was living in Columbus I went, in 1975, I went to the first Michigan Women's Music festival, which was quite an experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=590.03,666.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=667.65,668.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. Well, I went again like twelve years later, and by then it had become this huge thing with like a village they created on this land that they own. But the first time I went, it was in Mount Pleasant, Michigan and it was on this, just a big open area, there were no trees or anything, it was very hot. There was one stage, where later on there were lots of stages, you know? I don't know how many women, there were hundreds of women there and lots of naked women. I remember that night walking around on the land, and there were women with little campfires going around and we'd stop and sit around and sing or talk or whatever, it was just such an amazing feeling to be in this place where it was just all women, and mostly all lesbians. This was a time when I had just come out the year before, and I know some of my friends and I, we used to talk about how our cheeks hurt all the time, because we were always smiling. Coming out as a lesbian and coming out as a feminist, and being twenty-four, twenty-five years old, there was so much potential there. It was a very exciting time. And then being exposed to all this amazing music, and seeing these people perform. Meg Christian, who is also one of the founding mothers of women's music, and Holly Near, who had been doing social active music for many years even before that, and just lots of other people, and hearing them. And then getting, over the years, to see these women over and over again, and see their music grow and the audience grow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=668.45,782.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and then in 1977 I did the great dyke fantasy and got a VW bus and put a bed and cupboards in it and sold everything we had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=782.15,799.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was with my girlfriend at the time, Wanda, and we sang together too, so we packed up everything, all our guitars and everything, and our ninety-five pound dog and just got in our van and started driving. We had arranged some gigs along the way. We put notices in, I think Lavender, or in Lesbian Connection, which was a magazine that women just would write, it's still around, and it was a way for women to connect with each other. It was before the Internet, of course. We wrote to places and just got some gigs set up, and then we just started on. So, it was going from town to town, going to women's community, and also going to like Yellowstone and Glacier, and places like that and just getting to see the country, which was pretty amazing, and living in this van. That was an incredible experience because we would, if we didn't have something set up, we would go into a city and we'd find the women's bookstore. And there would always be a bulletin board that said places to crash, and we'd find some place to crash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=799.16,884.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, people's houses were open?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=884.05,885.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. Yeah, and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=885.92,888.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was your favorite place along the way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=889.09,892.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, one time we were doing a concert outside Helena, Montana and we were in some park and it started to rain, and they took us inside this cave, and we performed in the cave. That was very cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=893.89,905.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For those women, it was so amazing for them to have some, they were pretty isolated, and to have some music come, live music come to them, they were very appreciative. But one of my favorite experiences, after we'd traveled for a couple months and we'd been camping out in parks and stuff and we drove across— from Montana I think we went into Canada and then drove across B.C., to B.C. and got to Vancouver and we're going to the bookstore, which is in downtown Vancouver, and Vancouver is a very cosmopolitan city. And everybody was dressed, you know it was downtown, they were all dressed up. Men in suits, women in high heels and stuff, and we were in our sweatshirts and jeans. So, we go to the bookstore and it was closed, so that's weird, what are we going to do now? We were going to walk back to our car and we passed by this woman who looked kind of like us, and we said, \"Excuse us, but do you know anything about the women's bookstore?\" And she said, \"Uh, yeah.\" And we said, \"Well it's not open.\" And she goes, \"Oh really? Because so-and-so has a shift now.\" And this woman ended up being like a walking encyclopedia of the women's community in Vancouver. So she took us to her high rise apartment for the night, with our ninety-five pound dog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=906.16,988.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then she introduced us to these women, and we stayed at a lesbian household and just hung out there for a week and became really good friends, we continued friendship with these women for several years after that. They had a women's coffeehouse and they were telling us, \"Have you ever heard of this woman Ferron? And we're going, \"No.\" And \"Oh, she's from Vancouver, and she's really good.\" Of course Ferron then became a very well-known singer who I saw described once as, \"Someday Bob Dylan will be known as the Ferron of the sixties.\" Which I always loved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=989.05,1028.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We spent all this time in Vancouver and it was like, that's what it was like, you could go somewhere, we were in Santa Rosa, outside of Santa Rosa at a music festival. These women in the blanket next to us, we started talking to them and they said, \"Oh you can stay at our house.\" And that was kind of our base for the three weeks we spent in the Bay Area, just was their house. You know that there was that connection, we'd go places and they'd say, \"Oh yeah, did you know so-and-so? Oh, yeah, we met them when we were there.\" Or they'd give us the name of someone else. That's how we were able to travel for all this time and just get to be places and travel on the cheap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1028.23,1065.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How long were you on the road?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1065.41,1066.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Four months. So, we went from Ohio, all the way across the northern part of the country to Vancouver, all the way down the coast to San Diego and then to Arizona and the last place was Flagstaff. We went to the Grand Canyon, and I looked at it and I said, \"Yeah, that's nice, it's a big hole in the ground. I want my own bathroom.\" Enough traveling. So, kind of by process of elimination, we ended up in Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1066.41,1095.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you know of Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1095.57,1097.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I never even knew where Oregon was before we came out here, and we had spent a couple weeks here. Wanda had an old college friend who lived here, so we stayed with him. And then we got here, we went to Mother Kali’s Books, which was the bookstore, and connected with some people. Eugene was a little difficult place though, and I think when we moved here, too, it was very cliquish in a lot of ways. I mean, it was a lot of lesbians here, and a lot of stuff going on, but it was a little difficult sometimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1098.0,1127.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Is that why you chose it when you came through? You saw what was happening here and came back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1127.41,1131.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well that was part of it, part of it was I didn't want to live in California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1131.05,1133.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1135.28,1136.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I don't know, just California had this, I don't know, this thing. I don't want to live in California. Because Wanda actually had a job opportunity in Santa Cruz, but we decided not to go there, and we liked Portland, but it was too much like Columbus. Since we had a place to stay in Eugene, and we know there was a lot happening here, we came here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1136.02,1158.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1158.63,1160.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: It was November of 1977 when we landed here. Pretty soon I got pretty involved in— there were a lot of things to get involved in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1160.95,1172.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a lesbian choir, chorus—this was way before Soromundi—which is still around now, but this was, we sang lots of women's circle songs and original things and stuff, and so I sang in that choir. I also, with a few other women, we created a concert production company group called “Eugenia.” I actually found a file of some of that stuff too, which I had forgotten about. I think we actually maybe did one or two concerts, and then the main woman that kind of started it, moved to Portland. We did a concert with Naomi Littlebear and Ursa Minor Choir, and they were from Portland. That was a great concert, I can still remember that concert. I'm trying to think what else I did, so this was in the, probably late ‘70s and then I was involved in a women's cabaret called Steam Heat. This was a pretty radical show, we actually did two versions. I can't remember, it was around 1981, I don't remember if that was the first or second one, but they were about a year apart. I always loved show tunes and you know, always wanted to do that kind of music. We put together a show, three of us put together a show that had show tunes and songs from the ‘30s and ‘40s. Then we had auditions, and we had all these women in the show. It was a, like I say a cabaret, the first show we did at a place called Dance Works, which was a dance studio, we did a couple weekends there. The next one we did at the WOW Hall, Community Center for the Performing Arts. They have this incredible wooden dance floor there, and they never let any food or drink up there. I don't know if they do now, but they didn't at the time. We convinced them to let us— we’d bring in tarps and covered the whole floor and tables and chairs, we had food and drinks, and this big show, and it was at least three weekends. It's sets and we had a band, and I got to do things like, sing with the band, bad like Bill Murray’s type, you know, singing, that was so much fun for me. But what was great about the show is that it gave lesbians who had been kind of, you know, at that time we were all like the work boots and no makeup and we're going to reject all these feminine kind of characteristics, and whatever. Here was a chance where women came to the show, got dressed up, and we got to dress up and some of the women in the show were wearing long dresses, we were all wearing makeup. I remember there was one woman who was like \"I'm not wearing makeup.\" \"No, you have to do it, because the lights wash you out.\" And everything. I remember by the last weekend she was like, in the mirror putting her makeup on. People really got into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1173.45,1385.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was really an opportunity to get out of those binds that we put on ourselves, because we were rejecting the things that were being forced on us, and now we were reclaiming it and getting to do all that great music and stuff. Yeah, it was, so when we did it at the WOW Hall, we advertised one of the evenings as being women- only, because that was a time when there was a lot of— we always tried to have women only spaces, and especially for something like this, because this was allowing women to come out and do something different, but we wanted to allow people to have a safe space to do it in. I think we did it the first show that was at Dance Works, but it was not very, it was just kind of the women's community knew about it. Since this was at the WOW Hall, it was much, a lot more people knew about it, so there was a guy who was involved in WOW Hall named Jon Pincus who wrote a letter to the editor and to the WOW Hall and said, \"You know, you can't have women only, you can't not let men in.\" And we were trying to explain that this didn't have anything to do with men, it's not like we were having this separate show where we were doing, saying terrible things about men, it's the same show, we just wanted to allow the safe space. It was quite a controversy. How it resolved itself, I think, is that we ended up saying, \"Okay, it's not women only, but we would ask that men not come. Give us that respect and not come.\" And I think it kind of fizzled out, it wasn't a big issue after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1385.4,1487.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: During those years, did you make a living by doing that work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1488.95,1495.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1495.31,1495.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What work did you do to support yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1495.8,1498.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, let's see, when I first came to Eugene, I worked, I used my degree in child development and worked in the latchkey program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1500.64,1508.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was at a time when there was federal funding for, it was like a really bad recession then, and there was some federal funding for jobs, so I got a job where I didn't have to work too hard, but made some money. And then after that, I went to school, I went to Lane Community College and studied electronics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1509.24,1528.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What led you do to that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1529.17,1533.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I don't know, I think I just took electronic class, I thought maybe I can fix my own stereo or something, and then I got into it, so I just didn't know what else to do so I went and got a degree. I actually did work in electronics manufacturing for quite a few years, I don't know how much of my education I used for that, but it was a way into it. So anyhow, I was either in school or working when, I've never made a living at any of the music or comedy or cultural work that I’ve done. It's always been, and I think in a way, I like it that way, because I can make my own choices, because it wasn't a job, and I didn't have to make any compromises. Because my childhood fantasy was to be a disc jockey, and I used to hang out at the local radio station when I was a kid, but I never saw any women there, so I didn't think it was possible. Then I took an audio production class at Lane Community College, just because I thought it would be fun, and it was, and got involved in KLCC, which was the Lane Community College public radio station. It was mostly volunteers at the time, so I started volunteering there. KLCC had had women's programming for quite a while, I think in the early, mid ‘70s they had some women's programming. And then when I came to town, I used to listen to As The Women Turn, and that was on Sunday mornings and it was Thyme, Mint and Shady Grove, and they were doing, playing music and stories about women. And then after that was over, there was a show called Women's Night Out. That was actually mostly straight women that were from the news department of KLCC. It was a magazine show, there were stories of interest to women and there was music. At that time, all these, the stories they were covering were you know like, abortion rights and women's health and the ERA and domestic violence. Those were not covered in the news, even on KLCC during the day. It was just specialized on Women's Night Out. So, I did some stories for that show and at one point they decided they were going to split the show into a public affairs show and a music show, and they asked me to do music, and I had developed quite a collection of music, I'd been to music festivals and had been following women's music. So, I thought, and here's my chance to be a disc jockey. Which, I've always said I was really glad that I got to do it that way rather than working for some radio station, because I got to go up there and play whatever music I wanted to play and say whatever I wanted to play, and the station was always really supportive of everything I did. Eventually, the news stories that were being played on Women's Night Out were being repeated then on other news shows on KLCC, so they actually were starting to cover women's issues, and eventually Women's Night Out ended, but my music show continued. I started it in 1981, and it was Monday nights from ten to eleven, and a few years later they gave me an extra half hour. For seventeen years I drove over that hill, rain or shine, the hill going down to the LCC main campus, where the radio station was then, and got to play music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1533.23,1780.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of music did you play?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1780.29,1781.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, when I first started out, I played women, lesbian music like you know the people that were really well known in the community, like Meg Christian, Cris Williamson, and Teresa Trull and all kinds of other people. I also, at the beginning I used to play occasionally something from my own collection, like something from like, show tunes or something like, I think it's Cole Porter, I think it's from Kiss Me Kate, has a song called “I Hate Men,” so I played that I remember one time. And comedy, there's some women's comedy that I would play. As the years went by, there was more and more to choose from. There was a lot to choose from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1781.8,1830.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you have call-in opportunities or feedback from the public?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1832.05,1836.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Oh yeah, I did, I got letters, I got people calling, it was really kind of a center too, because besides playing the music and making music available to everybody out there, I interviewed artists that were coming through town. I always had a calendar every week of events that are going on. I was underwritten by women's businesses, and other businesses too that supported the show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1836.38,1868.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So, it was an evening show?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1869.68,1873.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. It was 9:30 to 11:00 Monday evenings, yeah. And it was fun because I'd be out there at LCC and the whole campus was closed, and I'd go into the studio and I'd be there by myself till the next person came to do the next show. There was a dimmer light in the studio, so I'd turn the lights down, and crank the music up and play whatever I was in the mood to listen to that day. At first, it was kind of scary doing live radio, because when I did produced pieces, I'd take my razor blade and cut out stuff that I didn't like, but the one thing I do like about radio is, it goes off of the airwaves and it's gone. And if I find myself talking and realizing, I don't know what I'm saying, I could just say, \"Now back to the music.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1872.63,1919.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did you get the music, did you have to buy it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1921.17,1923.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, most of the way the radio station got albums was the labels would send them promos, also I would ask people, if they were in town for concerts or something, I'd ask. And then after a while, we were underwritten by Mother Kali's Books and Records, so we actually had a trade with them. I would just go in there and spend our trade and get records. Records, yeah it started off with LPs and then went to CDs, which is not as much fun, because the thing that I loved about— one of the things that I loved about doing radio is the segue between the records. If you do a really sweet segue, it's like, oh that's good, you know, fade down one and bring the other up. And the way you get the LPs to work, you move it, you can hear the sound, and you can find out when it gets to the beginning of a song, and then you kind of just do it back a quarter of a turn so that when you turn it on, the turntable gets up to speed just as the music is starting. It was very kinetic. But the CD, you just press a button, you know? It wasn't as much fun, but you also didn't have all the scratches and jumping and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=1929.2,2003.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What years was that show on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2003.19,2004.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: So, it was from '81 until '98.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2004.44,2006.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And why did you end?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2006.78,2009.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, I got tired of driving over there every week. Things had changed, just like the news was— women's news was not covered other places, you never heard— when I first started, you didn't hear women on the air, hardly even singing. Certainly not doing instrumentals, and you never heard their stories. By the time I finished doing the show, a lot of the people that I'd been playing for years, they were, at least on KLCC, were playing during the day. And also, people that got their starts at women's music festivals like Melissa Etheridge and Tracy Chapman, they were well known. In that way, there wasn't as much need for it. Now, when I turn on some pop radio station, there's always women, strong women, you know? That's really changed. I think there was still a place for having a center for women to kind of gather for that ninety minutes a day, a week. I just kind of was done with it. I wasn't going, as involved, I wasn't going to music festivals anymore, so I wasn't keeping up with all the music that was out there. I tended to like to play the oldies, the stuff that I grew up with, like from the ‘70s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2009.63,2100.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was that work paid, or did you just do it—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2100.23,2101.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, it was a volunteer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2104.62,2106.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Volunteer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2112.77,2112.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. And also the other thing is that I was then involved in doing improvisational comedy and I wanted to put more energy into that, too. So that was WYMPROV!, the improv group that I was in. We started together in 1991, and performed up until last year, four of us. I think what we did was also very political, in that— we started doing improv before it was as popular as it became. Usually, you see a lot, if you watch other improv groups, coed ones, the women usually always were, mother or whore, basically, you know? What I liked about what we did was we were kind of genderless. That we might put on some characteristic that might seem more male or more female, but depending on who was watching it, they saw it different. So you could be like a couple, we could be doing a scene about a couple, and somebody watching it might think, \"Oh, she's playing a man and she's a woman.\" But somebody else might say, \"Oh, these are two women in the couple.\" And it didn't really matter, because that didn't have anything to do with the story, usually. I think that was a really important thing that we were doing, of just getting out there and not worrying about gender, and not worrying about the rules.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2112.91,2220.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Who did you perform for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2220.89,2223.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, we performed hundreds of places, we produced our own local shows. The first time we performed was at a women's coffee house. One Common Thread, that's before we actually even were a troupe, we were just like, we had so much fun and we said to each other in the dressing room in the intermission, \"I guess we're a comedy troupe now,” because that was really fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2224.56,2244.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Who was in it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2246.2,2246.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: It was me, Sally Sheklow, Debby Martin, and Vicki Silvers. We were playing, just doing improv with a bunch of other women, and when One Common Thread said, \"Will you come and do comedy for us?\" Everybody else said, no we don't want to do it on stage, so it was just the four of us then, so we ended up doing that. Yeah, so we performed, we did some festivals, we did the Pacific Northwest Music and Comedy Festival up in Bellingham a couple times. We went to Chicago and performed at a women's comedy improv festival there. We did private parties, we did political fundraisers, we do conferences, so. In fact, the last show we performed was at the Provender Alliance, which is a natural foods organization. That was the third time we'd been there. But we did also, it's interesting because I've been going through, I had made scrapbooks over the years, so I have all our flyers, and articles about us and stuff, and I was going through it and realizing that we did a lot of political fundraisers for all the anti-gay measures that were going on, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2247.52,2327.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And that's a good transition to the ballot measures. And actually, when you were here in '77—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2328.09,2336.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2336.12,2337.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So you were here in Eugene for Referendum—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2337.49,2341.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Fifty two, 51, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2341.07,2341.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Fifty one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2341.98,2342.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I was, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2342.67,2343.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you talk about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2343.81,2344.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah, I came in November, in I guess ‘77, so it was that spring I think when the vote was. Yeah, it was, to tell you the truth, the thing I remember most about it was being involved in doing a fundraiser at the WOW Hall for the show, and I went outside to my car to get something, and I slipped and broke my leg. So, when I think of 51, I think of breaking my leg at the WOW Hall. Yeah, it wasn't until I was reading stuff the other day that I realized that, oh yeah, we lost that one. But you know, all of those things have always been, the OCA, the Oregon Citizens Alliance, and all the things that they started doing, I mean, what they did was force us to organize, and force our allies to come out. You know, I guess we have to thank them for that. They all kind of run into, together to me, all those different measures. A couple of them had the same number too, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2349.75,2416.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did they feel, and how do you feel it affected your community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2416.63,2420.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. I remember feeling bad. As they went on, it's really bad, because you hear these people saying these terrible things about you. Like, how much fecal matter gay people eat. I mean, it's just, it was demoralizing, as well as having all this community support. I think that it was maybe something, maybe it's kind of similar to what's going on now in the world. Is that, all that shit is there and you still have to go on and try and live your life. But it is, it kind of makes you sick to your stomach a lot, and I think that's what it was like then, yeah. And you know, we'd do this one fight, and then they'd start in again with another. And I know people— Springfield passed an anti-gay law, and you know, I still— I mean, Springfield has changed a lot, but still when I hear, oh I have to go to Springfield, I still have that feeling of like, \"Oh, they hate gays there.\" Which, I don't really think they do anywhere more than anywhere else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2420.91,2497.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: You've been in Eugene for quite a long time now, could you just spend a moment to tell us how you've seen Eugene change over time? There's been a lot of growth in a number of different ways, do you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2498.9,2522.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2522.7,2523.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Have any recollection of those kinds of changes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2523.35,2525.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, yeah I mean, Eugene has grown, it's gotten bigger, and more traffic, and all of that. I remember I used to hang out downtown a lot, and it wasn't very busy there, but then downtown became totally dead, and now downtown is so alive and yet people still don't want to go down there. But it really, every time I go downtown it’s like, \"Oh, this is so different, there's like people down here.\" You know, and as far as the women's community, I mean there was, when I first came there were so many different women's organizations and women's groups, and Starflower, and Amazon Kung Fu and women's circles. I remember a time where my vet, and my doctor and my hairdresser and my garbage collector were all lesbians and it was just— so now I think, and part of it I think is because we're older, too. The majority of my friends are lesbians still, and a lot of them that I've had since that time. But there seems to be not that central place anymore, or central places to go where—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2526.52,2615.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you remember some of the places, restaurants or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2615.12,2618.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, yeah, there was Gertrude's Café.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2618.96,2620.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Where was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2620.25,2622.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: That was on Lincoln, I think, yeah Lincoln, it was a women's, a lesbian, I think it was a co-op or collective, a collective probably, and then it later became the Wild Iris. There was the Riviera Room, which was the lesbian bar, which is now Actor's Cabaret. It just seemed that there were events going on all the time, too. There was, like I say, One Common Thread, which was the coffee house. It was a moving around coffee house, but they would just have an event where they would have music or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2622.25,2671.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, a moving around coffee house, they would go to different locations?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2672.06,2676.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. I mean it wasn't like a place that you would just go to, but they would say, \"Okay, we're having an event.\" And it would be like at Condon school, Agate Hall. I remember that one, because that's where WYMPROV! performed, I don't know, remember where else they did. I'm thinking back a long time, well there was Zoo Zoo's which was kind of a hippie collective restaurant. And Mama's Homefried Truckstop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2676.59,2713.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: You were here when downtown became a pedestrian mall, or maybe it already was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2713.17,2727.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: It was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2727.8,2727.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: It was already a pedestrian mall? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2727.92,2730.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah. I was here when they knocked the fountain down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2730.19,2733.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was your housing situation, how were you living?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2733.94,2737.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: When I first came to town, we moved out of the Volkswagen bus into a little house. Then I moved, after a few months, to a little house at the corner of Fifth and Blair, which is right across the street from Zoo Zoo's restaurant and Mother Kali's, which was right there, too, so that was kind of, which is now the hip neighborhood, the “Whit,” but at that time it was not a hip neighborhood, but that's where kind of alternative people were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2737.68,2765.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I moved into a rental house kind of on West Eighth and then moved around the corner. I bought a house, and I've been in that house for over thirty years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2766.92,2779.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what was your relationship, who were you involved with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2782.73,2785.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What were your relationships?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2785.4,2786.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well you know, Wanda, who I had come out here with, and I were together a total of twelve years and then we split up, and then I got involved in Baleboostehs, which is a Jewish lesbian group. And that's where I kind of got to know Sally, who became my partner, and wife. We've been together over thirty years now. So, yeah, I think that's a lot of where my friendships circles were either through some of the performing I was doing, or through the Jewish lesbian community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2787.02,2829.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you involved with a synagogue at all, or was it an extra—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2829.94,2833.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, I think one of the reasons that Baleboostehs started, which was I want to say in the mid-‘80s sometime, was that there were a lot of us that really identified with our Jewish, with being Jewish, but didn't feel comfortable in the Jewish community, and also were missing something from the lesbian community and being Jewish, because in general, there appeared to be some maybe, ignorance, or it just didn't feel comfortable. So, to be somewhere with people where you could be Jewish and lesbian was just, able to relax. I was involved, like I said when I was younger, with my temple when I was growing up, but I kind of left that when I moved away from Cleveland, and kind of rejected the patriarchy of it and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2833.97,2894.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then when I came back in to Baleboostehs, being involved in being Jewish with Baleboostehs, I still wasn't interested in going to the synagogue. Sally started going when her mother died, and she'd say, \"Do you want to go?\" And I'd go, \"Nah.\" And then every once in a while I'd go, and then after the year that she was going, it was like, oh this is pretty good. Because the synagogue had become fairly progressive, and they had, even though the book they were using at the time, the prayer book still had the gendered “Lord” and “He” and all that, when they read it, they read it ungendered, so that helped a little. As the years went on it became a new prayer book, and a new leadership, and it became some place where I felt that I could find a spiritual home. More than a spiritual home, it's really more of a social, just still of being part of the Jewish community, which was always, it was important to me, and still is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2898.4,2969.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you ever come out to your parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2969.55,2971.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: You know, I never really came out to them, I just was myself, and that's kind of how I am with everybody. I didn't make a big deal out of it, I'd just bring my girlfriend home or something, you know? And my father died, he was fairly young, he was sixty-one I think, and so, I was out and he had met my girlfriend at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=2972.71,3000.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was very comfortable, and after he died, my mom was very supportive. She would send me articles that she'd find in the Cleveland Jewish news about a gay synagogue or something like that. She came here to be at our wedding when Sally and I got married. Yeah, she was always very supportive. And my cousins, too. Like I say, nobody really, I never came out, my family has always been fine with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3002.32,3033.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you remember, maybe some conflicts that were in the community? In the years that you were living here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3036.12,3044.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: It's so funny, I just found something that I had written, like when I first got here. It was, kind of like I wasn't very happy with things with the community, but it also said kind of like— well, every big community has this, so whatever, you know? I think there was this, there was a lot of, I don't want to use the term radical, but strong feelings about classism, the people that might have been really involved in the class struggles and reading Mao's Little Red Book and things like that. I was never in that, but I know there were people that were strong in that. There were separatists and I don't particularly remember, other than that one women-only space we tried to create, I remember there, I don't remember being embroiled in a lot of conflict. It's funny you should ask that because I'm sure there was, but I kind of probably just, I'm the kind of person that's just like, I'm not going to get into the drama of it. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3047.11,3112.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And were people fluid in their relationships, or were people coupling up at certain times?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3112.49,3119.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Oh there was, I was very unusual because I was always in monogamous relationships, which is interesting, because I think people kind of respected that, because we used to—I can remember people coming when they needed help with something or support, like because we were this solid relationship. But non-monogamy was a big deal for a lot of people, but I wasn't, that was not part of my life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3119.95,3149.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So you say it was respected, that if people were exploring other ways, they still found your situation something to be worthy and not—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3150.03,3162.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3162.18,3162.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Looked down on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3162.62,3162.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I think so, because especially like, I remember that Wanda and I, we were pretty stable, until we broke up, but we were very stable. I remember people coming that needed help, coming to us, and sometimes it was like, \"Why don't they stop coming to us?\" But it was clear because we were like these two stable people and you know, we had this relationship, we also were both individually stable people, so. Yeah, I do remember, well I remember a controversy of women-only space, more so reading about it at the music festivals and everything. Women-born women, and all that, but that was like really early on, before the trans movement got to where it is today. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3162.78,3212.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you recall any problems with healthcare for lesbians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3213.62,3217.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, I had a lesbian doctor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3218.1,3220.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you seek her out on purpose?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3220.38,3225.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Actually, I don't think she was a lesbian when I first started going to see her. No, I never had an issue. I don't remember, because I was out to my doctor, and then I, but I don't remember ever having any issues that would really have anything to do with my sexuality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3225.42,3250.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you ever feel self-conscious, even now, coming out to a doctor, just to let them know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3250.64,3257.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: No, because I don't think I would go to a doctor unless I was sure that they were comfortable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3258.02,3265.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And how would you find that out before going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3266.05,3268.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, from referring. Like, I have two gynecologists right now, one referred me to the other. The first one I got referred to by the nurse practitioner that I used to go to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3268.32,3278.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That's interesting, so a network maybe of—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3279.63,3282.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3282.2,3282.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Physicians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3282.98,3283.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yeah, so no, I've always felt very comfortable. I mean, even my orthopedic surgeon, I didn't have to come out to him. I'd bring Sally with me to, he starts asking me, \"Do you know so-and-so?\" Because he had these lesbian friends. So yeah, it's never really been an issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3283.06,3303.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what do you think about Eugene as a place to age as a lesbian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3303.89,3308.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, I don't know, because it's one of those things that I try not to think about, but I know I should think about. I don't know what it's going to be like. I mean, now that you know, as I'm healthy, it's fine. And I do have a support system if I have some non-critical issues going on. But not having children, and not really being very connected to my family of origin. Sometimes it does worry me when I think about what could happen, what is going to happen to me. There really aren't any, that I'm aware of, any places for women to, for lesbians to be out and taken care of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3308.99,3356.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When you think about retirement places that are men and women, is that an uncomfortable feeling? If you were to live in such a situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3356.83,3366.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: To tell you the truth, the thing that makes me more uncomfortable about retirement places, is that they all seem so Christian, and that's what worries me much more than being a lesbian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3366.28,3375.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And what does that feel like? What—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3375.38,3377.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, that I'm not going to be seen for who I am, and have my needs met for what I need, and also be around people, and people saying things that are going to make me uncomfortable, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3377.31,3397.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Anti-Semitism, or ignorance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3397.83,3400.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Not anti— ignorance and just you know, I think that it seems like, as people get older, they often get more religious too, so maybe even if someone wasn't as religious when they were younger, but then they get older. You know, and I don't want to hear people talking about Jesus, or Christmas, I don't want to be somewhere where there's Christmas decorations up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3400.32,3419.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How has Eugene felt for you at Christmastime?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3419.93,3423.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Terrible. You know, I know the controversies of the, whether there should be decorations, and what kind they should be, and whether you could decorate your own workspace and all that. It's just a hard time, and I mostly have worked in small businesses where there's been some sensitivity, but you know, or saying we're going to have a holiday party, it's like, just call it a Christmas party, because that's what it is. But it’s a hard time of year, it is. But that's what I said, when I joined Baleboostehs, that part of combining the being Jewish and being lesbian was so important, because in a way, for me, especially in Eugene, it's been much easier being a lesbian than being Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3423.96,3476.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: We've heard that from people we've been interviewing. I'm wondering if you have a theory about the relationship between Judaism and feminism or lesbianism? Why there might be feminist leaders who are Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3479.32,3498.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Oh, feminist leaders that are Jewish, oh yeah. Well you know, I think there's the Tikkun olam, which is to make the world a better place, and that's one of the tenets of, at least progressive Judaism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3498.97,3518.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, I think that there's, has traditionally been an emphasis on learning and education for Jewish people, Jewish men and women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3518.67,3537.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews have been involved in socially progressive movements like, the civil rights movement, and unions and I mean, I don't know where it all started, but I think that's just part of it, and feminism and yeah, that there are a lot of feminists, Jewish feminists, and lesbian. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3541.02,3563.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Is there something we haven't asked you, or haven't very well captured through our questions about your time in Eugene over all these years? Or some experience that we haven't asked you about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3567.47,3578.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: The story I did kind of want to relate, which is, I thought kind of interesting, because I told you about how we, I got across the country just running into lesbians, and identifying each other and all that. It was just a month or two ago, Sally and I were just walking in our neighborhood, and this woman, you know a dyke-y woman, comes up to us and says, \"Excuse me, but do you happen to know Nadia Telsey?\" Who is this Jewish lesbian friend of ours, right? And we go, \"Yeah.\" And she said, \"Well, I'm an old friend of hers from New York and I'm in Eugene today, and I'm trying to get ahold of her.\" So I said, \"Well I have her phone number.\" And we called her and stuff, and she wasn't home, or she didn't answer the phone, so we told her how to get to her house and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3579.62,3628.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, you were like the women in Vancouver?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3628.79,3630.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Exactly. And so, and then I said to her, kind of jokingly, \"How come you asked us if we knew Nadia?\" And she said, \"Well, I just saw two kind of women that looked like me of my age, and I just thought I'd try it.\" But I thought that was just so great, and I think that's true of the— probably true of the lesbian community all over the world probably, but it Eugene it really is. It's like, it's a small enough, at least those that have been around for the last twenty or thirty years, it's small enough that we do know each other, and that we can identify each other on the street. It was just great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3630.68,3671.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What about the lawsuit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3671.46,3672.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Oh, the lawsuit, yeah. I can't remember the year now, but the ACLU wanted, this is for marriage equality, the ACLU wanted to sue the state of Oregon and they got seven couples to be part of the suit. What we did is we went down to the county courthouse and asked for a marriage license application, and got—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3672.73,3702.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What year is this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3702.65,3703.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, I was trying to remember when it was, I'd have to look it up, but it was when the Measure 36 passed. It was before Measure 36.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3703.16,3715.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And Measure 36 was the?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3716.84,3718.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: The constitutional amendment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3718.95,3720.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: To say that marriage could only be between a man and a woman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3720.91,3723.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3722.97,3723.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Which did pass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3723.86,3724.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Which did pass, but this was before Measure 36, a little bit before Measure 36. So we went down and asked for a license and were refused it, so that was like part of our suit. The suit went through all the courts and it went to the Oregon Supreme Court, it was like right after Measure 36 passed. We went to the— got to go and sit in the chambers and stuff for court, and they basically said, \"Well it's moot now, because of this constitutional amendment.\" So we didn't win our suit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3724.79,3760.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did it feel like to be part of that suit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3761.31,3764.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, I just loved being, getting to do something. I've always felt like, as far as— besides my political cultural work that I've done, mostly how I feel like I contribute to being political is just being myself. You know, like not making an issue, just being who I am, introducing my partner, my wife or whatever we're calling her at the time. That was an opportunity to be able to just say— we didn't have to really do anything— we did some press conferences or something, but mostly we just had our name on the thing, on the suit. That time was really hard, when 36 passed, it was just devastating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3765.59,3811.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Is that still in the Oregon Constitution? It hasn't—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3811.95,3817.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: You know, I was just thinking about that, it's probably still in the constitution, but it can't be enforced anymore, because supposedly it's against the U.S. Constitution. Who knows what might happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3817.61,3831.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I mean, Sally and I have gotten married, or tried to get married very many times over the years, so I was trying to keep track of all the different weddings and ceremonies and certificates we have, but so that's why I can't remember the year of this. Yeah, every time it was always really hard. I remember Sally telling me once, \"In our lifetime marriage is going to be legal.\" I remember thinking, \"Nah, she's very optimistic.\" It just amazed me that it happened so fast. Yeah. And you know, just to know you don't have to worry about all those little legal things and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3834.16,3882.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another interesting thing that happened when the— let's see I think— we got married in Canada, so we were legally married in Canada, but it wasn't recognized here. Then I think Oregon recognized it first, before the federal government did, if I remember. Anyhow, when it was finally recognized by the federal government, it was the first time I was able to talk about my wife.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3883.41,3912.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because first of all, that term has such a loaded thing, you know, wife, so it never sounded right. But the first few times I said it, it was really kind of weird, but now, it's like people get it. People totally get it. But, yeah, I think, Oregon was in the, one of the worst places for all, because of the Oregon Citizens Alliance. All the horrible things that they did and the one guy Scott Lively that's doing the same thing in Uganda now, you know where people are getting killed. It was a really, many years of feeling really bad and saying, \"Do we have to keep doing this? Keep fighting and fighting.\" And now, except for the current political situation in the White House, but other than that, it just like feels so good to finally be like, \"Okay, I'm sixty-eight years old and I can finally relax and be who I am.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3912.85,3980.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would you say was a major joy for you of living in the lesbian community in Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3980.9,3988.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: I just think of all the great gatherings we had, concerts and pride celebrations and just seeing women, all of us, seeing us everywhere. And not just in women's gatherings, but also just around in life. To feel integrated in the community, I guess. That's it, I do feel very integrated into the community, even though it's really still important to have our own little, or big, lesbian community. I feel very integrated into the Eugene community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=3993.33,4040.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And is there anything that you would say, if you think about a young person watching this interview, at this point of your life, that you would, advice or observations you would make to a young person?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=4040.5,4053.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lefton: Well, I was thinking back to when I first came out, when I was twenty-four, twenty-five, and we had some friends who were older lesbians, and I remember being at this party and hearing these women talking about, \"Oh is so-and-so dating this person?\" \"Oh no, because she's a butch.\" You know, it was like, two butches would not be together. And I remember just kind of rolling my eyes and thinking, \"Oh wow, come on.\" Because, here I was this radical feminist dyke. And now, we're having to work so hard to really understand the queer, non-binary, flow, gender flow kind of, and new words and things that is, sometimes I think, I don't want to do it, I just want to stay where I am, and then I realize, just like the whole world, but the queer community is constantly changing and it's right for where it is, right now, it is right. Those women that were butch and femme, that was what was right for them right then, you know? So, I just say, be yourself, and keep changing and keep building, and find out what's next.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=4053.4,4136.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=4138.71,4139.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=4139.81,4140.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325#t=4140.47,4140.66"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56115/file/130325/transcript/92590/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/590/original/778_Coll520_do028_aligned.vtt?1776852360","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/590/original/778_Coll520_do028_aligned.vtt?1776852360"}]}]}]}