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All right, here come the city, say, condemn the place, and toe it down. Wheeze up, that's all in me now. 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There's no zoning board. The Planning Commission rarely determines where utilities and streets are located. Nobody has planned what to do with somebody else's property. I'd like to see, I want to understand what forces are at work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=42.15,57.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So I think that if we all know what forces are at work, we can at least prepare it in some way to make some decisions about our own lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=60.27,69.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Mic tap, second mic tap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=70.289,71.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e In the last episode, our investigation was unable to turn up proof that the city and business were conspiring to drive the people of 4th Ward out. However, business leaders did feel that economic growth in the downtown is an absolute necessity. As to the problems of 4rd Ward, they said that's the responsibility of government. So we took our film material and showed it to the people at the 4th ward. They were shocked to learn that the mayor they voted for had declared that 4th ward was a gone neighborhood. That it was the victim of natural economic forces and not worth investing in. The people insisted that the mayor come to Fourth Ward and tell them that face to face. This story took place over a year ago. You're seeing it just about as it happened. That way you can make up your own mind. I have to go over it again in order to make up mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=72.39,124.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e What has developed over the years with natural forces at work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=126.34,131.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I just can't accept that he really believes in something called the natural forces of the mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=131.1,139.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The following day, we would take the mayor to the fourth ward, and we thought we needed some expert advice. So we asked an economist at the University of Houston to take a look at the mayor's interview and give us a reading. Was there anything he could see in the mayor remarks that might give some hope for saving the fourth Ward?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=139.81,153.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I have great respect for the mayor's integrity and his honesty, and I think that he actually believes that that area is not likely to be redeveloped, but I just cannot believe that he actually thinks there's something called the natural forces of the market. He and I studied at the University of Texas at the same time, under the same economics professor, and we firmly were... Told and learned and believed and Fred as well as I came out of there convinced that a belief in the natural forces of the market was just a lot of nonsense if he doesn't believe it then why does he say it I think that the mayor it rather than being in the real world of economics is in the rear world of politics and that is a phrase that is understandable I believe that the mayor honestly thinks the land values are so astronomically high that it can't be redeveloped, and so he slips off into a cliché to get himself out of it. As a general principle, I think the mayor probably would agree that that phrase is a way of avoiding confronting problems, because natural forces, what would lead...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=157.29,223.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The Gregory was telling us that it was just talk, that there was no such thing as natural forces in the marketplace, and that the mayor didn't believe what he was saying. Maybe people had been throwing words at us because we were just too dumb to know what they meant. Forces were not natural. They were the result of people making decisions. The Gregory's argument was that government made decisions where streets and public utilities should be, and this helped determine how the so-called natural forces would operate. If this was so. Then the government could make other kinds of decisions which would protect the fourth ward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=224.28,255.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e This whole constellation of events will determine the degree to which forces can operate, natural and otherwise, and mostly otherwise, to develop or to let these areas deteriorate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=256.43,268.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e People deciding things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=269.95,270.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e People making decisions and we tend to want to avoid the responsibility of making these decisions or try and pretend that they're beyond our control when in fact government makes critical decisions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=271.21,286.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And so, you know, people are being shuffled around, you know, if it is a myth, then the forces that be, those forces being the mayor, the people on city council, the people in city planning, the the people in the downtown business establishment, you're all working in concert to force 7000 people, you know, out of the inner city and away from what they call their homes, one way or the other, you know, it doesn't matter to me whether it's a myth or You know but people believe to be the inevitable seems to be happening and and the forces uh... You know the mayor everybody else seems to the uh... You know working toward that and so i don't get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=287.24,323.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e So I don't see an opening in this idea of a myth. 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If you think of it as a conspiracy, then you are implying that a few ignoble people got together and plotted ill for this area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=334.76,345.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're not going to get a fair hearing. I'm not worried about whether there's a fair hearing or not. All you have to do is go over there and look at a bunch of people languishing. It's not whether I deserve a fair hearing as to whether those people or they deserve one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=347.03,359.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, but if we can get them a fair hearing, now one of the things that the way these myths work is not that a few people at the top necessarily can destroy a community, but that all the forces of the private and the public sector begin to conspire to destroy that community. Conspire, I sense, not in the sense of a small group of people getting together, but in this unconscious conspiracy of adherence to a myth. 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I mean the mayor of the city of Houston, you know, you said he could...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=385.79,396.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I say that the mayor undoubtedly believes the price of the land is high, but he doesn't believe in the natural forces. He just believes that the situation is gone beyond the point of being retrieved, and he believes that there are other areas of the city that have higher priorities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=397.15,413.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e With the mayor presented with evidence that everything that he believes is a myth, what is it exactly that you think that he would do or can do? Secondly, we've been talking about that there is no such thing as natural forces then. What are the forces? Are they people? What causes people to believe in even the myth that there are such things as natural forces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=414.06,443.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think the myth of the natural forces, without getting into the history of economic thought, is rather deep in American society, in English society, and in Western society. And according to the economics that Mayor Hoffein and I learned, it has arisen as a very convenient myth, a myth that rationalizes a market economy and justifies... Whatever kind of injustices and disparities arise under those circumstances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=444.48,474.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Isn't he shucking and jiving with us and the people? You know, it's what I'm getting to. If you all both studied in the same teachers, believe the same thing, that there were no such things as natural forces, then he turns right around and tells us that. Isn't actually, you know, trying to pull the wool over our eyes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=474.27,491.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e How are you today? That's everything, John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=493.32,499.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, excellent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=501.1,501.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We went down to City Hall to meet the mayor and take him to Porth Ward and we took DeGregory with us just to see if we could break down that story of the mayors about natural forces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=502.77,509.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We just had a few things we had to clear up in reaction to the other interview we had. So we brought Tom along to help us out here. So why don't you just take it off?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=512.18,522.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Fred, a couple of things in your interview that I read that was interesting to me, particularly since we both studied economics at UT, what did you mean by natural forces of the market? We kind of learned at UT that they didn't exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=522.82,534.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm not exactly sure where I used the remark in the context of the previous interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=536.53,543.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What was dragging down fourth ward over the lash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=545.36,548.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e You mentioned progressive areas of the city that changed because of natural forces of the market and you suggested the fourth ward was going to go the same way, but it was irreversible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=550.0,559.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e What I meant was that that property was developed with one use, which now fifty years later or seventy-five years later, that use is not, that that use does not conform to the value of the ground. That is to say, the price of the real estate has risen so highly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=560.77,587.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That these natural forces really seem to assume that government is going to act in some way. And if that's what they do assume, I would suggest that maybe government could act otherwise. And the natural forces wouldn't have to operate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=588.53,602.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, government could act. There's no question about the ability of government to contradict natural forces. But it's highly unlikely, given the government structure of Houston, Texas, and given the smallness of the Fourth Ward problem compared to the larger metropolitan Houston area problems, that that will happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=604.36,633.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e But are there really natural forces, if they can't take place without government having to do something positive, provide the basic infrastructure, the basic framework of transportation so that area could develop? Because we now have a bottleneck in the city, as you know, as we've worked on. And to develop out that way further means that we'd have even greater transportation problems, and the private sector can't solve it. And so that area can't develop unless the public sector commits itself. Transportation. So that doesn't seem like...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=634.19,665.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the other side of that same coin is a government could act to reduce the value of the land or, for that matter, to itself redevelop the land for whatever purpose the government deems appropriate. There are two solutions to the problem, is what I'm saying. But on the other hand, I'm telling it's highly unlikely, given the government structure and the. The institutions of this community that that's going to happen. Although, frankly, this administration is interested in exploring the idea. You've mentioned in the other one that you don't have the, for one thing, under the state of Texas constitution, every local community is permitted an urban renewal authority. That is an authority that has the right to go in and buy real estate. For no other purpose than redevelopment, and then to resell that real estate at a loss, reducing the cost of the real estate, thereby encouraging the development of the real estate. Virtually every large city in the state of Texas has urban renewal authorities in place. We do not in Houston. We have never had one. Houston does not have, traditionally, a land use management approach to the development of the city. We are a non-zoned city, and it is very unlikely that you could get urban renewal authority in this community until you have a comprehensive zoning ordinance. It's very unlikely you're going to have a Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance in Houston anytime soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=665.65,763.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Take it away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=766.07,766.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I reject that. I don't think that you have to pay the price of losing the Fourth Ward for growth. I don' think that that's a necessary side effect of a rapidly growing city. I think there's much that perhaps could have been done over the years to prevent that, what's happening in the Fourth ward. And because of so many years of neglect, there's less that we can do now than we could have done earlier, or for that matter, less that should be doing now than should have been doing earlier, because the fourth word is, as I've said before, basically a gone neighborhood. The housing stock of that neighborhood is more deteriorated than any similar situation, with maybe one or two exceptions in the city of Houston. And now, the... Question must be asked whether it's intelligent for us to go back into the fourth ward to try to redo it the way that the fourth Ward was originally done. I Don't think it is But I don't think that what's happening before there would be feasible. I don' think it would be intelligent for it I don't think that Redevelopment of the fourth board the way the fourth word was originally conceived is an intelligent thing to do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=767.84,845.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Just looking at the city government of Houston as over the years, over the past, say, 20 years, it is a government that it appears to us to have an ear towards the business interest rather than, say an ear to sort of less formalized. I mean somebody put it that business interests here have the glue. To express themselves, whereas other interests in the city of Houston are too fragmented and don't articulate themselves in order to create pressure on you as a man. Well, I think that's generally true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=846.68,878.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e American culture at large. But I don't think that it's any worse here in Houston than it might be otherwise. The truth is, the so-called business voice in this community is a very diverse voice. It is not singular. It's not uniform. And someone in my position does not answer to the business community because of its financial power. It answers to people because of their their voting power and the interest that the mayor might have with respect to the business community is the interest he might have of respect to votes in an election. I think in recent years in this city that we have seen a very sophisticated inner city organization. I'm a mayor because the inner city voted for me and they voted for me in a very organized and very determined way. In fact, in the last election, the one which one last time, the under city turned out. In numbers that were probably 10 percent ahead of the outer city. So there's considerable interest on the part of the politicians in this community in neighborhoods just like this because neighborhoods like this are very highly organized. They're very highly political and highly organized.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=878.97,948.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e They got me there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=951.73,952.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I've got it. I'm joking. I lift weights all the time. Hey!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=956.199,963.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Tom had heard that the ministers had decided to focus their questions around two main topics. One was the federal money that was supposed to come to rehabilitate inner city neighborhoods, called community development money, and the second was the issue of permits. Several ministers had applied for building permits and had been refused, they said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=972.49,991.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Not have a long say and whatever anyone has to say concerning the fourth ward issue, the mayor is here and I'm sure he can respond to whatever he says. It's all yours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=992.01,1003.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I would let someone else, probably. Remino B. Brown, open up. Come on over this way, son. Take a seat right there. Open up. I'll definitely walk you. I talk so much, I see it. I promise myself. Open wide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1010.24,1024.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But Mayor, I believe that our main concern right now here, pastors, can we or could you tell us whether we can make plans to really expand our church facilities here. We will be here another 10 years, 20 years, just what can we look for in the future in this post-war area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1025.369,1046.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Right now, Reverend, the city doesn't have any specific plans with respect to the fourth war. A lot of talk that goes on, a lot of conversation. As you know, the neighborhood has gradually lost people. Most of your churches now attract people from areas that are much larger than the fourth ward, people who grew up in the fourth Ward, but they're now living in the fifth ward, and they're over in the third ward, coming back to church over here. There are only about 7,000 people that live in what we call the fourth ward now, and the housing condition in the fourth Ward is such that this area was not designated by the community development task force as a major recipient of early community development funds because those funds were designated in neighborhoods where there was a chance to rehabilitate single-family houses. Is that any one thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1053.699,1113.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That we as citizens can do that will make us qualify for immediate action on this lawn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1114.03,1120.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Community development funding. Well, those aren't necessarily all loans. I forget, and I should have before I came over here, checked at what point in time 4th Ward gets funded. It's third year. Is it second or third year? Third year. So you're coming up very soon. You will be part of the next fiscal year development. And I don't think there's anything in the world that you can do that will hurry that up. You know, I don't want you to be real excited about that because there's only $13 million a year under that program for the entire city. In the fourth year, we will jump up to $23 million a year, but for the third-year funding, it's still only $14 million a and it's very unlikely that that $13 million a spread over as many needy neighborhoods as there are in this city. And we're obligated to spend it in all of the target neighborhoods we'll be able We're not doing any good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1122.1,1181.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what's the reason why that a church can't get a building permit for a new building in this locality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1182.45,1189.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Be the reason that I gave you earlier regarding the sewage treatment plant, which is currently under construction, and it should be completed by 1979 or maybe 1980.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1190.66,1204.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, partner. As far as water on the same line, the line that's downtown, that they keep issuing permits to build skyscrapers. And they keep adding. It seems like they don't get much problem. It seems to me they don' get much. I have much problem with getting permits to build these skyscrappers, which is adding much, much more onto the same sewer line. And we can't get a choice whether three bathrooms is too much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1206.42,1234.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e They're about that thick and they're all checked off on by the Texas Water Quality Board, which is the authority that regulates the city of Houston's operation of our sewage treatment plants. And they're very complicated rules, they're difficult to understand, but they are rules and they do apply to the whole city and we've got to live with those rules.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1236.72,1258.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the things that I wanted to talk to you about was a statement that you made in the interview that Channel 8 had with you in your office. And you talked about, I'm not quoting your verbatim, but in essence you said that 4th Ward, the representative of 4th ward is a dying community and it has been dying for the last 20 years. And that it would be fruitless to put any money in 4th wards. Now, make the statement. As close as we are, and I feel that we're close, it kind of went home with me because to say that Fort Ward is a dying community when there are, you stated, 7,000 people around here. And if you go to Gregory Elementary School to go to Lincoln School, you'll see life. You know, it's dying, and my feeling is it's died because it cannot receive any help from the city fathers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1260.24,1317.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e President Smith, you and I have discussed this before, and you shouldn't be surprised by that comment. Sure, there are 7,000 people who live in the Fourth Ward now, but a few years ago there were twice that. Every year we see a few more people leaving the Fourth ward. It is a dying community. Now the question is whether or not the community is something that we should attempt to turn around, revive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1318.86,1342.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I feel it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1342.93,1343.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e The question about, you said that I had previously... Asserted that it would be fruitless to invest in the Fourth Ward. I'm sure that the thought behind that comment was that it is fruitless to do it in a piecemeal way, that if we're going to do anything, the Fourth ward has to be attacked in its totality. It is fruitness to... To come in and try to dab here and dab there and mess around here and mess around there. The problems of the fourth ward are very general problems and it has to be attacked comprehensively.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1344.45,1381.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the reasons why that the population is drenelin is because of the inadequacy of the houses. Okay, they can do nothing about them because, first of all, they are low-rental people, okay, on low income, less than... When the house falls down on them, it's condemned, the landlords will not do anything about them. What is it left to do but to move on? But here's a point that I want you to hold fast to because I do. And that is even though the families are leaving 4th Ward, they're going out of 4th ward, and you made the point yourself, a statement rather, that they're coming back in here for worship, which is really saying that they don't want to leave 4th wards if anything can be done. This is the way I feel about it. So, you know, I feel that you can't do it all. But I do feel that you can do something that's very tangible, that can help us to kind of save Fort Worth. And this is what we need to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1383.16,1436.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e There is very any truth in that private enterprise or private industrial is trying to take over this part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1439.03,1445.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I would imagine that private industry is always looking at good real estate situations. I don't speak for the private industry, but I would imagine that there are those that look with some interest at the fourth ward because of its juxtaposition to the downtown business district.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1446.03,1472.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e May I say this in reply, and I guess this is climax. I heard him ask about private industry. All I'm saying is that even though you're the mayor to private industry and all of this, you're the only source of help we have of keeping us from being snuffed out, crated up, and packed out, and put on some isolated place like they do Indians. You're the Only Hope. And if we come to you, you know. We need you in our corner, as in the corner of all people. You said something about, you know, we got to abide by the rules. But I do know that sometimes those rules have a flavor on them. You know, if it's money speaking behind it, then the rules are kind of suspended. But if it someone that doesn't have anything, then those rules are applied, strictly stipulated, spelled out, and held steadfast. And we can't get... Big business off our necks. We don't have no way of getting off our neck. Big business is the problem with the fourth war. That's how to take fourth war","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1475.28,1543.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I know you have to leave, but this coming Sunday there's going to be about 2,000 people with all these churches here. And what can we tell them to look forward for the area as far as the city is concerned? What can we do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1544.91,1562.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e The only thing you could tell them at this point is that the community development funding for this section will begin with the third year. And that that is proximate, that is to say it starts very soon, and that they should contact their community development representative to see to it that the needs of this area are communicated to the city administration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1563.96,1585.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Three years from now, there won't be nothing left. Three years form now, there won't be nothing else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1587.12,1592.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. Okay, thank you. Do you feel that your questions were answered?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1595.12,1601.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, not really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1603.34,1604.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. I think he was fair with us. That's all. He was fair. He's fair, but we don't know that. Let me state this to the question was asked of the mayor. Did he know of any private enterprise that was concerned about buying the 4th Ward area? And I think that this was a point that he slowed down some. I believe that he knows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1605.67,1629.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e We're going to have to get ourselves together in the Fort Worth area, come together ministerially so and come together residentially so, and then put one big package together and show a reaction on everything that has been said or done. This is my feeling. I feel that this wakes us up to the point that we need to be doing something now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1631.42,1657.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e The truth is that the so-called business voice in this community is a very diverse voice. It is not stinking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1658.19,1663.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Macedonia Baptist a week or so later some of the ministers got together to look at more of our films The shooting had gone on over eight weeks now. We were running out of film money and time and we needed an ending in the worst way Reverend Smith when he heard heard the mayor said this wakes us up But a week later nothing had happened and it looked like we'd have to bring on that fireworks and an elephant act in order to end the picture Tom the journalist said he'd get me an ending so he pulled together this meeting Its purpose was to organize a protest at City Council the following Wednesday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1663.76,1693.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Something we've known for a while. Big business wants this neighborhood for commercialization and the only people who don't want that are a bunch of poor folks who've been pretty scattered and haven't really been able to get it together and apply any political pressure because we don't have zoning to protect us. Zoning would protect residences, citizens like this, from this kind of encroachment. From commercialization, but we don't have zoning in Houston because big business don't want it here for exactly this reason. They want to be able to go to grab where they want in the direction that they want, wherever they think the land is most suitable to them. What I don't understand is why our city officials are willing to let them grab to grab these people's land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1693.72,1744.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why indeed had civic leaders allowed it to happen? We tried to figure out what we were up against. I ran a piece of film that nobody had seen yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1744.37,1751.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e There may be no community left to save. Who are the people who are still there? There are not many.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1752.67,1760.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Houston could guarantee the fourth ward something of a future. I'm sure these people would seem much more fruitful to stay","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1761.26,1767.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e Houston cannot guarantee the people of the 4th Ward a future. To do so would perhaps be like standing at the base of Niagara Falls, holding up your little finger saying you're going to stop the water from falling. The city of Houston, I don't feel, has it within its power to stop encroachment of downtown Houston into the 4rd Ward community. That is a growth pattern which has set in, and to try to retard it at this point would probably be useless and futile. So for the city of Houston to say, I will guarantee that you will remain here as an in perpetuity would be an argument without any basis. Because they would not be able to do that, powerless to do that as a matter of fact. So I don't know how we're going to prevent that moving out of commercial establishment downtown Houston into the Fourth Ward area. The Fourth Ward Civic Club was at one time one of the strongest black civic clubs we had the fourth ward civic club and the fifth ward civic clubs and they had strong leadership and there was great identity among the people with each other but I have seen that wane a little bit as we have moved through the years and unless there is within that community a strong community base fighting City Hall to survive as long as they can survive, then I think that this erosion of the community will continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1769.26,1888.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And you don't see a base at this time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1889.25,1890.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e I do not see a base with the strength that I'm talking about at this time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1892.46,1898.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Jordan's interview was a real downer to those of us trying to plan a march on city hall on the following Wednesday. How could a few well-intentioned people in a very small part of the city do anything without support from important people? Fourth Ward was left to its own devices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1900.04,1913.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Jordan's pessimism toward the plight of the Fourth Ward. We need public, you know, I understand that she sees that the problem is going downhill, but from what I picked up from her statements, it's as though she's almost given up on the Fourth ward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1914.35,1932.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you probably have to ask yourself the question of whether she's ever been in the Fourth Ward's corner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1934.43,1938.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e People like Barbara Jordan that we very definitely need in our corner if anything because they have the voice. You know she's up there where she can speak for her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1940.03,1948.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Barbara was right, though, in that the political power of the Fourth Ward has degenerated somewhat, you know. And it's not as tight as it used to be. I think the potential is still here, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1949.95,1968.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e This is just the way I feel about it. The thing that ties the hands of the massive movement running, you know, is that most of fourth ward are tenants. These are persons that are living in the homes that are not owned by them. So if they move for something, for the future, what will a landlord say about it? This is the thing that really is hanging in the air. I mean the people of the church, the church the pastors and what have you, we have a strong wealth. We can say what should be. But the tenants that are living in these houses that the landlords can come in tomorrow and say, hey, get out. If we group together, if we push for something that's meaningful, and I'm not, I hope I don't sound like I'm losing hope or anything. What will be the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=1969.02,2023.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you think of, you know, what the mayor had to say, what Preet had to say in terms of the dying community, and it would be unwise, unintelligent to invest...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2024.86,2038.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e I was telling the Reverend, he may be right, it may be unintelligent for us to try to stay here in 4th Ward. It may be not very smart for people in 4h Ward to want to live here, but emotionally people have roots here and they're not thinking a lot whether this is the cheapest thing to do to save the 4th ward. If the people of the 4h ward, vis-à-vis particularly through the church leadership because they're the about the only strong institution left in the fourth ward don't demonstrate that they want to stay here and do everything that's necessary surrounding that to show that they're going to stay here, and if they're gonna apply the pressure regardless of how what level that takes to do that, then no politician, not Ron Waters, not Barbara Jordan, no one is going to step forward out there all alone to help them and say, you know. We're going to keep the fourth ward here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2039.75,2097.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Look into now is what are the alternatives and what are the possible ways of organizing some kind of movement to allow them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2099.03,2109.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e To respond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2109.96,2110.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh... I mean it doesn't matter to me to me the thing that you know that the politicians respond is is is it is not is not true politicians uh... By by their very nature supposed to be able to recognize it was i mean you know if that's like a player","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2112.13,2124.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e They need it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2124.96,2125.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And they have to say it politically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2126.95,2127.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e They have no format. They don't appear at board meetings where power is kind of bartered about. They sit there, they're totally out of the system. The only time that they have a chance to get in on what's going on is when they vote. So they vote for Hobb Fiennes and Jordan. These are the people they send to the board meetings, which judge, make the decision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2130.02,2152.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd had it with discussions, there was no more time. Jordan and Waters had been telling us that it was up to the people to act. I agreed with that. If you don't act, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Ed and Tom were arguing that it was up the leaders to do something, but not the people. But I wasn't listening. I was plugged into a dream. I was remembering all those old John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart movies where ordinary people faced with incredible odds rallied together at the last minute and overcame the forces of corruption. It was a beautiful dream. Why couldn't it happen in the fourth ward?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2152.32,2184.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not to give them up. Well, I still believe in, in, that this is a democracy, and I believe that the people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2184.84,2190.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e can get together, they can form an active political force.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2191.69,2196.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e And let me cry half on it, I'm afraid of the whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2197.31,2199.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Not only that, but to put pressures on them, put pressure on City Hall. In fact, over and over again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2199.7,2204.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Again, city officials have told us that's what has to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2205.04,2207.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e So I would wonder about the possibility of our doing some of the same things that we have done effectively before. We've taken busloads of people down to City Council and you'd be surprised what that does to councilmen. You get 200 people...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2208.23,2218.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We needed as many people down at City Council as we could get. We asked for support from the other black areas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2219.28,2224.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e And the little children, and all the folks who are there, or you pull together 20 precinct judges and go down to visit the mayor. And those precincts judges, each one may represent 1,500 to 2,000 voters each. And he knows this is a certain kind of mathematics that he understands. So what Floria has said is just absolutely correct. The only way for us to operate. Is going to be in terms of pressure. So far the only time that the white power structure has ever moved is when we have pressure. They don't move because it's right for them to move, they don't move because we ask them nicely, they dont move because they bargain across tables like gentlemen, they move because their under pressure. And it seems to me that we have to put them under pressure","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2224.9,2269.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think we can have some kind of support then for next Wednesday?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2269.74,2274.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I don't see a problem with it at all. I sure think so. Tom is going to let me know something about Reverend Wade and about how to reach him, and obviously we can lay hands on numbers of people between now and next Wednesday. And in the final analysis, if there is to be any kind of media coverage, it generally comes to the point of interest. Media will be at the city council meeting. If the place fills up with people, then obviously also the media realizes niggas are mad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2275.19,2302.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e About something. The industry heard that there was trouble in Houston, that black people are unhappy because they're trying to phase them out of a particular section of town, then the industry is going to say, wait a minute, hold it now, we thought we were going to a problem-free town, so let's hold up and let's look at it six more months, and then you got a building that's built for that unit by Snitzer, Hines, and one of them folks, and now they're sitting with a And the folk ain't coming because they say the niggas are unhappy. Let's hold it Let's see if we can get some of our folks to cool that thing off, you see. But the problem is now is that there's too much that's been cooled off. So much so that the man says, don't worry about it, we got somebody who can take care of that. And then he doesn't realize that something different is going to happen because who he thought could take care of it ain't in a position to tell them people to hush because them people say, we're going to save our neighborhood. And I think when they see a number of folks coming together to do one thing, then you got the solution there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2303.13,2362.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you want to be helped? And then are you willing? 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I had visions of blacks marching in from all sides of town, from Sunnyside, Acres Home, South Park, from 3rd Ward, 5th Ward, coming to save their birthplace, coming from all over Texas to save the 4th Ward and speak out at City Council.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2376.55,2398.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, it's up to you and I to make him out of a lie. It's up you and me to make our a lie! If we just sit down and don't say nothing, then he will be what? That is the truth! He will be jealous of the truth, and he will right in holding up his money. But if we show him we are voice fading, then we will...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2404.51,2432.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e City Council, Wednesday morning. This is where we carry out the things we say we believe in. Every Wednesday for about an hour, starting at 10 o'clock, citizens have a right to make their gripes known to eight councilmen and a mayor who represent and make decisions for more than a million and a half people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2437.88,2455.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's about five after nine and nobody's here except Reverend Washington came in. He asked me, where's Tom? Tom's not here yet. And he was needed to talk things over with him. There was another list. There was a speaker's list. I just got it. But I don't see Reverend Washington on it. Do you, Steve?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2463.35,2479.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't see my name nowhere on this list. I don' see how that is possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2479.9,2487.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the one I just got, yeah, I just got it from the city secretary. There's somebody down here who says, prophet Charlie Washington, but that wouldn't be you. No, I'm not a prophet yet. He wants to build a wall around the city. Around the city, yeah. I wouldn't mind doing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2492.35,2505.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I hate to admit it, but this was my first time ever at City Council. I didn't know how it worked. 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We'd heard that busses were supposed to bring the people from the fourth ward, but so far no sign of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2518.54,2523.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Can he speak if he's not on the list? I'm going to shift try. 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You have to have a reservation prior to 9 o'clock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2549.89,2554.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, well, I thought that this had been done. The question is, may I have a minute to speak, even though I'm not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2555.36,2562.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e No sir, we're not allowed to make a reservation after 9 o'clock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2562.4,2565.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e I was supposed to be on the speak today, but I don't see my name here. I see that Rod Waters is on. We can get you on. You can get me on? I sure would appreciate it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2570.02,2579.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ten o'clock, Councilman Judson Robinson offers to help get us back on the list.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2579.76,2585.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Robert. Leave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2587.95,2593.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e You'll be way down here, but we'll get you on that. Try to be good. Okay, thank you. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2598.76,2602.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what we do, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2608.81,2609.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e President of Citizens Against Pornography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2612.37,2614.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e 1010 the anti-punagraphy people where there was plenty of support, but still no one from the fourth ward","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2615.05,2620.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e I assure you that if most of you were standing here in the nude today, none of us would be particularly disturbed because we might be able to appreciate the art of it. But if you begin copulating orally and anally with each other, putting it on film, putting it in theaters and charging us admission to see it, then that is pornography. And that's what we're here talking about. We have the support of the churches, we have the support of schools, and we have support of countless organizations. We will only need about 36,000 names on that commission and I guarantee you we can get that in one day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2620.89,2657.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ten fifteen. Ron Waters arrives. He missed his turn to speak but says he'll slip a note to the mayor and get back on the list.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2660.16,2666.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Or in a minute I'll slip a note up there and try to get me on some flight. We'll get back on it. Where you been?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2667.95,2673.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Where have I been? Hospital with my little girl all night long. Nobody showed up. They're going to do it three weeks in a row.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2674.549,2683.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There was something in the way Tom said that that gave me the feeling I'd been looking forward to something that was never going to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2685.81,2690.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e City Councilman. I'm here this morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2697.79,2700.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ten-thirty. A handful of people showed up. Waters in his speech seemed to be looking for an answer for why no one else was there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2702.07,2710.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Future of the fourth ward. I think that the citizens of that neighborhood are also concerned and if you would give them the opportunity in the forum let's say a night session of city council you might even want to be creative and go to the fourth war if you've never been there and and hold it in the fourth word I think you would find an outpouring of emotion and and a statement on part of those people about their desire to live as a community in what you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2711.4,2736.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to just ask him for a commitment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2737.31,2739.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e In the hallway, River and Washington looked for something precise he could say to the council. He turned to Tom for help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2740.16,2745.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The power for him to do. Well, I think, you know, basically the thing that you were saying Saturday, I wouldn't ask him to anything about you. I would demand that he, first of all, stop his plans for the widening of West Dallas and use that money for work in the community. I would also demand that... That he initiates a review of the building permit procedure in Fort Ward. You know, who's putting what affluent into the sewer system. And, uh, fourthly, you know just the commitment from him at Fort Ward is worth saving because it's a community of people as opposed to, you now, whatever in hell he thinks it is. And the only way that Fort Ward is going to be able to survive is that, is that that commitment is there from him that it's worth saving. And the fact that people in Fort Ward want to, you know want to say the fact You know, the massive number of people from 4th Ward and out here today, you know, does not mean that much. They'll be here in two more weeks. Good morning, Mayor, and thank you, Justice Robinson, for appealing my case. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Councilman, I would like to direct my remarks especially to the Mayor, Justice Robinson and to Louis Mason. I'm here on behalf of the 4th Ward citizens. There are about several... Hundreds or to the thousand people that are waiting to march up here. I ask them not to come yet, but to give our mayor and the councilman a chance to work for us, for we have a lot of confidence in Mayor Hoffman. After a meeting with Mayor Hoffmann, we have found several things that can be done. We have found out that you're planning to widen West Dallas, and we are asking you to take the money that you are planning to wide West Dallas. I don't know the reason you're plan on doing that, but to use it in the fourth ward area to upgrade some of the homes in that area. We have ministers who are trying to build that church. They have not been able to get permit. They're saying that the water sewage is not right. But we have found out that one island landed is on that same sewage. And they were able to get permit after some of the fourth ward churches have thrived. Mr. Mayor, I'm asking that you would reconsider the statement that you made that fourth ward was not worth saving or that it's not an intelligent act. To put money in the fourth ward area. Our people will be waiting Sunday to hear what you have to say. And I'm hoping I can go back and tell them that you would at least go back with your customer and restudy the plan and give us a chance to help ourselves. We want to save fourth ward. Whatever it takes, we are willing to do, but we need help. From you gentlemen, especially you the mayor and Mr. Mason. I talked with you about two years ago. You told me, Reverend, if you need me calling, I'm calling on you now. We sure need you. We want to save Forth Ward. It's one of the oldest areas in the city. It can be done, but we need you gentlemen to help us to do that. May I go back and tell them that... You will review the action and we get a commitment from you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2747.64,2993.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e The city is extremely interested in helping the poor poor in any way we can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=2995.04,2998.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In any way you can. Thank you, thank you, gentlemen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3000.68,3005.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I had my ending, but I didn't know what to do with it. It looked like things had fizzled. We had a speech, but council chambers were not filled with people. The next week and the week after, a few ministers spoke, but there were never any busloads of people. The local media did cover it, including one show of 30 minutes. But there were no reports of people rising up to fight City Hall. Mostly they said that it was all over. Don Shelby of Channel 2 did a week-long series on The Fourth Ward, and this is the way he saw it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3010.6,3046.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What is this movement then that people are starting to get together, how does that look to you then, how do you see that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3047.37,3052.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e I really haven't seen a movement. I've seen a conflict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3055.0,3059.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And said they were going to keep the fourth ward. I was just wondering how that looked to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3063.7,3068.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e Honestly, I don't see how they can say that. They can say it. I don' know how in the world they can do it. Three against one or two against one, it just doesn't work out. And I believe that there are plans sooner or later, eight years, ten years away, to do something with that area for the business community. Have you got some evidence of those plans? Because we've never really found any hard evidence. For that. On the contrary, the plans aren't there. But you see, that is what I find. There are no plans. There are no plan for the people. There aren't no plans for business. So what There are plans for the area that need years to do something else with it. The plans that exist are the plans which are the grand plans that lie in the minds of the absentee landowners there. Regardless of what utilization that land will be put to, it is for some day in the future to be something other than what it is, and that is an area that cannot be pulled up from its bootstraps, as it were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3070.98,3143.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you see happening right now now we don't have any participation i mean we got we got zilch at city hall this morning the person who was supposed to speak wasn't there i mean the 2000 people uh cramming bus loads and marching on city hall hasn't happened the myth well i'm just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3146.76,3165.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, we call a spade a spades. I don't mind drawing a conclusion about black people at all. I've drawn a lot of them before. You simply tell the story like it is. Which would be what? If they have failed to take action to prevent something from happening to them something that affects their quality of life, I think that that's what we have to say. That they have nobody to blame but themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3166.03,3193.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's the way it ended over a year ago. We blamed the people for not acting. But seeing it again, there's something about that that really bothers me. It doesn't sit right. I had to face up to the fact that we had created that ending just as much as if we'd written the script. It started way back when we picked the fourth ward as a subject. Sitting next to those big modern buildings, Fourth Ward was the underdog. Perfect story for a filmmaker. All the people had to do was march on City Hall and demand fair play. We had set the stage for a big movie ending, even giving them their lines. And then we sat back and watched them perform. And when they didn't fit the script, we bowed out and said it was their fault. But in a funny way, all we were asking them to do is what society asked them to do when they got a problem. Put on a good show down at City Council. To be John Wayne and put up a fight. If you don't fight, well, then there's nothing to be done. But what happens if the people don't or can't fight is a problem any less a problem. We'd set out looking for forces that shaped this city. What we'd found were three ways of thinking about things, all of them led to a stalemate as far as the fourth ward was concerned. There was the notion of conspiracy, which was held by many of the people in the fourth Ward, discouraged them from thinking that anything they did would do any good. Then there was downtown's notion of natural economic forces. This wanted the city's economic situation to be just allowed to run its own course without interference. Then there was the notion that we'd believed in, that people could change things by grassroots movements alone. Well, when it came right down to it, all that meant was that if nobody complains, then there's no reason for anybody else to worry about changing anything. Now you put all three of those notions together and you got a beautiful situation that leads straight to nowhere. While everybody sits around explaining why nothing can be done, fourth war just sits there getting worse. What remains is the problem. For downtown, for politicians, for the people of the fourth war themselves. It stands there begging for a solution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595#t=3199.56,3329.98"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14105/file/270595/transcript/79635/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/635/original/trint_Coll458_blue_fourth_ward_03_transcript.vtt?1747153343","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/635/original/trint_Coll458_blue_fourth_ward_03_transcript.vtt?1747153343"}]}]}]}