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I was selling candy, cookies, a bunch of teenage children was there. Spending money with me all the time. I've done fine. All right, here come the city of Syracuse. Condemn the place and toe it down. Wheeze up that toe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=11.03,26.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Downtown is building up and is pushing people out and it's being done by design and that's what you know that's one time I'm talking about them","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=28.24,37.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a bunch of malarkey. Nobody plans the use of another man's property in Houston. There's no zoning board. The Planning Commission merely determines where utilities and streets are located. Nobody has planned what to do with somebody else's property. I'd like to see, I want to understand what forces are at work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=38.09,55.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So I think that if we all know what forces are at work, we can at least prepare it in some way to make some decisions about our own lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=58.11,67.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Mic tap, mic tap, second mic tap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=67.97,70.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Last year, I got one of those open-ended assignments that you look forward to all your life. We're all going to have a film, they said, make any film you like. And I wondered about this city we live in. Big, booming. And the forces that seem to shape it. What fascinated me about these forces was that I didn't see them. I didn' know how they worked. Why, for instance, on one side of this freeway were big modern buildings, and on the other side there were dilapidated pawn shops and a run-down neighborhood. I decided that if I was to find out about forces, this was a good place to start. The idea was simple. Find out what I could, then put it on TV. As I pushed my van into the fourth ward, I had the same fear anyone has going into a foreign country for the first time. Though I had driven by many times on my way from downtown to River Oaks, now I was going in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=71.92,121.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e The question is, where do we start? In order to plan out about the Fourth Ward and living in the Fourth ward, who do I go see? Who should I go, what kind of people should I see? What places do they go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=122.07,132.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e You in the right place. No He's talking to somebody, you know somebody live around in the water","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=133.61,139.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. I mean, who other? What other places should I visit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=139.79,143.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e You talking to one of them preachers? That don't sound odd, but that's about right. Why'd you say that? So you'd be one. Would there be another? Well there's a business man. Public business because he deals with the public. You have to be with somebody in public, but really you'd get your best information on the street like a star. Because there are people that have good opinions in the street that have never had a chance to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=146.84,171.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's a church on every other corner anyway, on every corner it's the church. Church and a bar. A church and a Bar. A bar on this corner, church on the next corner, that's in the whole community, you know. Which they have nothing to do but go to church and to the bar, you kno- That's right. That's your place. Right there. The church. The church, uh- And then that's, that why- Clean. You know, black people so deep off into the church- It's because, you know, the churches, you don't go to the park, and it's the church right on the corner, so they just go to church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=172.49,208.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't think people would talk to us, but they did, they had no reason to, weren't they just putting us on? Three white jerks with a camera parachuting in for ten minutes asking for the truth in 20 seconds and then dashing back to their middle class neighborhoods, why wouldn't they put us on. But underneath the comedy routine, I thought I heard another message trying to get through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=208.79,227.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, you have to just hope I'll heal and pray. And what you have in the bar on the corner and the church on the other corner, then you don't know which one you want to get out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=227.88,237.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Going from the church, you got to eat a pass by the boy at that church. And some children make that, they'll make that decision and some of them won't. Stop in here and give me a soda while I end up drinking a beer. Ain't gonna do you no good. Three out of five, two of them go to church and the other three go in the bar. I mean, but what can you expect? That's all they got, that's all the activities they got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=237.19,261.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm, my relatives, my mother's people, as well as my father's people primarily grew up in this neighborhood. In 19, early 40s we saw Fokua being made up in basically totally black and also we saw that there was a number of people who was just who grew with just about all kinds of culture. There was crew teachers, there the very poor, as well as the middle class as we knew it in that day in terms of blacks. But now in the 60s and the 70s, we have watched those people migrate out into other neighborhoods, into changing neighborhoods like South Park, like in totally lily-white neighborhoods, or moved into other places like Los Angeles or other metropolitan cities. And that children, particularly after they had gotten to a certain age, had moved out. So we see now nothing but the very foolishness of the children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=264.159,324.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Take for instance, if you and I was in high school together, say we dropped that in the same grade. And we'd go down to, what's a good company, and go, Hughes II. And both feel like the application had the same kind of qualification, which is nothing, right? Because we dropped out, right, okay. Who do you think they'd get a job to first, me and you? Just take a, after you play, then you tell me now, sir. Tell me right, I want your honest opinion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=325.56,351.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Shit look at look at us. We try like hell and and sometimes as hard as you try it's still on hell And so you had to keep on trying and see some people like I said earlier a lot of people around here Just waiting to die Just look around they waiting to do look what they're living in red houses roaches Thank you. I can't even sit on my front porch, man. Rokes cry, live cries all over my legs. They that bold. See, I've seen rats down there big as my hand and some old people in here hand. I mean, I mean they don't care, you know. The mosquitoes, they eat us up. They don't, I don't know what's going on. That's what I'm saying. You know, the rats and the roaches and the people, you don't change. I mean hell with that. You asking for a change, right? What changes? Give them something to change. You need them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=353.05,400.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I would like to see you living in 4-4 or 5-4 for a week, two weeks at the most. I wonder how long you'll last. 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They have been in this predicament so long, till they have even become to feel satisfied, which is not the truth, because if they were, they wouldn't have to get up in the morning looking for a bottle of wine, looking for something to sustain them throughout the day. Every person practically here around here that you get up first thing he wants a drink You see that shows that they can't rely upon themselves. They are not Stable if something wrong something is a disturbance in their mind. They're not they're not satisfied","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=418.87,462.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e My, my, my God, I'm going home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=465.16,469.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Someone said you should make a film about another country after three days or else it would take three years. I had eight weeks and Fourth Ward looked like it would last forever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=474.61,484.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All across the country, if you notice, you know, in all major cities, the downtowns are deteriorating, that it's considered unwise to invest money in in downtown, in Chicago or in Detroit or in Cleveland, in Memphis, you know, businesses are moving out. Okay, but here in Houston you have a different different system altogether. And I think That's marvelous, we're saving our city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=486.05,511.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I was sitting around spinning my wheels wondering if I should make this story, or even if it was worth making, when my wife said I should meet this black reporter who'd done a radio show on the Fourth Ward. I did, and he said that the Fourth ward was the biggest story in town. When he began to tell me, I could hardly believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=511.71,527.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Downtown is building up and is pushing people out and it's being done by design and that's what you know that's why I'm talking about though you know you got the Houston Center moving toward Third Ward and you got one Allen Center moving in on Fourth Ward and people are being pushed away they've been pushed out under the guise of progress and I don't think that what's good for Houston is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=529.0,556.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Good for the people of Houston. The point that you're making, in other words, is that Houston wants to grow at all costs and that growth is this expansion out, which in effect then the inner city is being kind of neglected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=556.97,574.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But purposefully be neglected. Purposefully being neglected because any time that you have a have a system at work where city services are bad where landlords do not improve property then that area is destined to become a a slum and it's right around you know the inner city fourth war fifth war and third war so what happens is with these landlords disinvesting in property the city not providing proper city services houses are condemned people are forced then to move out into another slum and then you know the land value goes up it's sold and the city expands. What you have is a plan that people don't know about, that people don't about, that manipulates and moves them, you know, in and out of certain areas. And they don't even know that the forces are at work. 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And a conspiracy, well, without a conspiracy you know what I mean, something...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=630.73,645.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't even call it a spade a spades. I mean, you're talking about, really, you talking about land over there that's worth billions of dollars. And that's exactly, you know, what brings on conspiracies. If we were talking about some little development that, you know, meant something like $500,000, then it wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't use that word. Yeah, but look,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=647.04,667.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The city has to grow, it seems, and to provide for the people, it's people. What, well, why call that a conspiracy? I mean, given the system we're dealing with, we've got to, I mean there are certain steps that they're only, you know, that the city can take. Every time I opened my mouth, almost nothing came out. I was faced with the fact that I knew almost nothing about my city or what went on in it. I was confronted with someone who seemed absolutely sure of what he was saying. Let me ask you this. What makes you... Tom Wright, an authority as a spokesman for 4th Ward or someone who can deal with that. Why are you so concerned?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=669.01,714.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Little people, you know, little people who have their homes in say an area like a fourth ward. I told you the thing that touched me about that area was one Christmas, you know, when I was striving down that little street, you known, all these little dilapidated houses and it came across one house and there was this little fence around it and there was a tinsel on the window that said, uh, uh Merry Christmas and God bless this home. You know, there's a person inside that house. But that person has nothing at all to say about how this city grows. Doesn't have anything to say about his or her own destiny. And that's really frightening. It should frighten everybody when we realize just how little it is that we have to say about growth that was in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=718.26,766.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Tom spoke with such conviction that it seemed to take total possession of his whole being. If things were as Tom said, why didn't anyone else know? Before, I was afraid I'd find out nothing. Now, I'm afraid of what I'd found out. It was like in a detective story where someone's sick and then you're told that person's being slowly poisoned. It sounds possible, but you need proof. Tom said he'd show us. Fourth Ward was sick. There was somebody killing it. In the next three episodes, you're going to see it just about as it happened. Then maybe you can make up your own mind. I need to go over it again in order to make up mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=768.02,801.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Barbecue. This is barbecue brisket. Brisket. Uh-huh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=801.75,806.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you put in the sauce?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=807.74,809.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e My sister made sauce, I don't know. I haven't talked to anybody who knows what those are that sauce.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=810.28,815.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e Ladies and gentlemen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=817.2,817.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e You could tell us what's in the barbecue sauce. No, I don't know what's in the BBQ sauce, but it smells awful good. Yeah, it smells awfully good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=817.96,830.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you, what's it like here in the Fort Ward now, on the Fourth of July, what do you feel the people are facing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=831.24,839.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's bad condition on the kind of the streets in here. See, this water comes, seeps up under these people's houses. And it seeps from that big sewage line there and comes around up under there. See, the meter's not running. If it was a broken line, the meters would be running. You know. How long has this been going on? Oh, about three, four weeks. It was this poor neighborhood. It used to be a kind of a rich neighborhood through here. Well-lived people had a great city. Well-livers. Well-livin' city. And it was always black, wasn't it? Yeah. Black used to own everything in here, all the way down to Folies town. Tell me about what happened. Stole it out? I don't know, I couldn't tell you. A lot of people saw what I had to do going out for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=839.51,903.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e There used to be a grocery store there, and there used to some little houses along here. But they condemned them and so then they tore them all down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=908.87,915.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, one of the things that dares me, why these rows of these small houses, I guess they're shotgun houses, how did those come about? Well, shotgun shacks, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=919.06,927.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Originated during the period of Reconstruction, right after slavery, and the reason that they call them shotgun jacks is because people can take a shotgun and shoot straight down the middle of the house without touching any door, any wall. Blast will go through the front door and and you know really right out the back Well, who built them like that black people built them because that was the only kind of housing that that they were used to you know said it happened during you know, right after reconstruction and During slavery days those were the kinds of houses that blacks lived in so consequently","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=927.97,966.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It was nice to know the history behind those houses. For all I knew, the city of Houston might be planning to put the fourth ward on their guided tour and sell ice cream. What we needed was evidence. I wanted to know what it was like to live in one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=966.9,977.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I think the people that own these houses in Danish Charters, high-priced rent should fix these houses up and pay the rent. How much do you pay for it? I pay $55 a month plus all my utility bills and all the other expenses. But if the health inspector would come out here to see this house, they would probably more likely condemn this house. It's not, you know, provided. My bathroom floor is there. If you walk on the bathroom floor, it's almost out to fall. It doesn't have a trap up under my bathtub up there. And the porch is in bad, you know, condition. The wiring of the house is by here. You go out there and cut that meter off, and the lights will not go out in these wiring. Another thing I can get that to rent me is supposed to fix this, to get electricity to fix it here. And this is how it ends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=977.5,1035.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Afraid that, uh, that you can burn up in here one of these days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1037.99,1039.829"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e I am afraid they will catch a fire in case they start like this here. I think that it needs to be cleaned up from rats, you know. And I guess last year I had a red, big rat in my house last year and we found it killed it with some poison. But the rats just don't do that. They come in from the outside like this, make a lot. Because I sit here, I think it was Sunday and a wretched honor just came through my screen door. Just walked over? Mm-hmm. So it is a lot of clearing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1040.05,1074.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Talk to the landlord.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1076.19,1076.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, this is the report that I'm getting from my landlord. When I tell my landlord I have a certain thing to fix in my house, you know, I have to pay for it myself because the lady owns this house. She's not going to spend no more money on this house.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1077.48,1093.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why do you suppose they won't do anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1095.13,1096.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e That I couldn't say. I know that they understand that the lady said that she wasn't going to spend any more money on this house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1097.34,1102.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why don't landlords fix this place up? Tom said this was a part of the plot. They were letting the houses run down, the people would be forced out, the land would be cleared, business would move in and the landlords would make a big killing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1103.42,1116.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e My father owned something there since about 1912. Myself, I believe it was about 1930. You grew up in the 4th Ward? I was called a Buckman in West Alley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1117.43,1135.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How did your family acquire, you know, this 100 to 150 units there in Fort Worth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1138.64,1143.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e By working hard, sacrificing and being economical, making good investments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1144.04,1149.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's our understanding that some meetings have been held among large landowners like yourself and downtown business interests trying to, who want to block up large sections of Fourth Ward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1152.36,1164.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e But if so, I don't know anything about it. I haven't been approached. And I think if anybody wanted to buy it, there's a world of vacant stuff in Fort Worth that they can buy. Vacant as land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1167.14,1178.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is most of your property in large enough blocks where, say, a big investor would want to buy it, or is it just sort of piecemeal around the world?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1180.98,1189.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e It's pretty well piece-mealed around the war. It's not, say, a block or half a block. It's just piece-mealed around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1190.04,1197.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I wonder where those kinds of rumors start, you know, because we were told that you had been in on some of the meetings that had been held. So if you have a clue what you're thinking about...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1198.56,1205.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you this, at the end of the week go by, one of the tenants tell me that they're going to buy it out and we're going have to move. In fact, I had a lady renting from me that I've been knowing since I was a kid, and she told me, she says, we're gonna have to move. I says, well, if you're going had to move, I don't know why. She said, well they're gonna buy it and she moved. She went to Third Ward and then came back, wanted the same house back. So I told her, I said, Margie, I says, you know, I know you too long. I said I didn't mistreat you. I said you know I wouldn't mistreet you anyway. So she came back wanted the house back Do you feel that same amount of...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1206.74,1247.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Care and concern about most of the people who rent from you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1247.97,1250.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e I do. I was raised with 95% of them that lives in that neighborhood. I grew up from a kid. When we moved there, I was a kid too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1251.14,1258.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, other landlords in the area, you know, some of the tenants say that they don't call them landlords, they call them slumlords. You know people who don't want to reinvest in their property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1259.83,1268.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, most of our stuff, you can go up on Buckner Street there, all along up in there in Saldana, and all, most, 95% of our stuff is pretty well painted outside and well taken care of. Some needs painting on the outside, but it's well taken care of on the inside. Well, how do you feel, though, about other landlords, say in the ward, who don't take care of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1269.81,1288.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Take care of their tenant property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1288.98,1289.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e To see it out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1291.05,1291.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Taken care of. I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1291.91,1293.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e What would be the reasons why people wouldn't take care of the landlord? Well, I'll tell you this, the income is mighty small. This is the lowest income property in the city of Houston for its rental purpose. And you can't hardly cut too much of an item. They're just, the type of people that are there just don't have that kind of money. They're mostly all on relief or social security or welfare or something like that. And they just don' have money to pay the right amount of rent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1296.03,1327.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So much of the land seems to be owned by Italians. Could you tell us how that is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1328.05,1332.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, in them years gone by, they all had little corner grocery stores and they'd accumulate a few dollars and somebody wanted to sell their property and they bought it because it was right around their neighborhood. Right around their place of business. And it went on from there. That's where it started from. So is that a community where Italians settled in Houston? Well, quite a few Italians, yes. I'd say... Other than about two stores out there that were all mostly owned by a tax. You say that they were starting sort of just like...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1333.36,1365.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e These people, they're in the same...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1365.76,1366.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e In the same position, maybe four. Could you tell me something about that? Well, I take my father, he came here, and he had worked in a coal mine and he accumulated a few thousand dollars and came here and went into business. Oh, he struggled and he sacrificed and saved and did everything he could to accumulate a dollar and as he got a dollar and somebody wanted to sell a house, he would try to buy it. And it just went on through. Why did they pick the fourth ward when they came in? Well, the language barrier was one thing. That they could understand each other. My father couldn't speak English, but as well he could speak a little English, not much. And they could make signs to each other, and I want this and I that, and he'd just look at the price, and he just would go head on and do business. Until eventually he learned how to speak English and read English. Then it went right on through. So you said that the Italians were in...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1367.02,1423.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e In those days in the same position as the blacks. Yes, it's the same. And maybe...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1423.98,1427.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e Could you repeat that again, please? Just as bad or maybe worse. What are you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1427.98,1434.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What would you say accounted for the difference in, say, the Italians now and in the land and blacks now and nothing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1435.29,1441.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, all right, I'll say this, because one sacrificed, did without, and tried to accumulate something for an old age. And a lot of your people, happy-go-lucky people, and just live for today and not tomorrow. Now, this is my view of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1442.66,1465.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Fourth Ward was a proud community once. It may look ratty and run down now, but the oldest of those houses had been built by freed slaves. In the late 20s, the city fathers drew a line around a small section of downtown and said that's where all blacks must stay. Fourth Ward is in the heart of that section. If you're a blackboard in Houston and over 40 years old, chances are you came from the Fourth Ward. Now it was dying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1467.82,1494.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it ain't nothing I can say, but some leading people need to have a meeting and kind of straighten this thing out, it's pitiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1494.67,1508.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The way we are. What's so pitiful about it, huh? What's so pitful about it? What makes it so pitif-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1509.38,1514.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's pitiful the way we suffer. There's nothing, nothing. I walked this street and there were so many people in this ward until it was pitiful. They say, excuse me, excuse, get and buy one another. Now, they have done four wards so bad until don't nobody want to be out here. When did you ever thought about a building that was going to be in the middle of West Dallas down there, a building in there tall in the Rice Hotel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1514.87,1544.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what is happening to 4th Ward in terms of say like the building down there on West Dallas. Does that bother you at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1545.24,1552.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Downtown is doing the fourth down town building well they don't have no No business, they tore this thing down, built speedways and everything, and the people what was out here was making a little living, but they can't make now nothing. Because they have tore all of the buildings down. Who do you blame? I was over there, across the street, had a little shining parlor, and I was doing well. I had a victor, I had, uh, a pool table, I hadn't. Uh, I had me a soda water machine, a shining stand, and I was doing fine. Condemned the place and knocked it in the head, and now I've got to go anywhere I can. I had to sell my little stuff and get over there. Did that make you mad? Did that makes you mad?! Did that make you mad? It didn't make me mad, but it made me put me in bad shape. I can't make a living hardly. I ain't got no way to make a livin'. I was making a living over there. My Rick Chola was taking in 25, 30 dollars a week, my solar water machine selling 15, 20 dollars, uh, 15,20k solar water a week. And Rick Cholo was taking that money and I was shining shoes. I was doing all right. I had a little county there with a candy shop. I'm selling candy, cookies. A bunch of teenage children was there spending money with me all the time. I done fine. All right, here come the city, say, condemn the place, and tow it down. Wheeze up that toll in me now. I ain't had no way to go since.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1553.04,1658.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Looks like that. This is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1669.36,1672.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1673.98,1674.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This is July 12th in the evening. Tom Wright's just come in very concerned about something regarding Antioch Church and we wanted to put it on film. I told him what was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1676.97,1687.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What happened to the situation last night? What happened last night. There was a meeting at the Wheeler Street YMCA. Five people were there. Five people other than myself and basically it was an attempt to get some kind of consensus on what was going to happen to Antioch and he told me that They had pretty much, when I say they, I'm talking about the forces that work in the city, Hoffines and the people of the chamber, that they had decided that nothing was going to be done, that the fate of Antioch had been decided one way or the other, and that regardless what the people at Antioquia thought about it, it didn't matter. Because if they could not get the church through the lease agreement that they were going to impose a lot of them to domain, that the only way that fourth ward is ever going to be developed is that Antioch goes and that... They'd be allowed to jump the freeway with a building. The whole thing lets you know how the system works. They do what they want to do anyway. And then they don't take into consideration the rights of anybody other than themselves. And I think that that's the frustrating part about, you know, the whole Fourth War situation. That nobody else matters. Nobody matters. Except what, you now, the people downtown. You know, the multimillionaires in conjunction with the people at City Hall want and they'll do anything at all possible to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1689.67,1813.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Antioch was the emotional sore spot for Tom. He saw it as proof that business was attempting to drive black people out. And he wasn't the only one who believed that. The Allen Center was trying to purchase the 28,000 square feet of land that Antioche owned inside the Allen Center property. And the black congregation was split between selling or staying. Some people thought they ought to put up a fight. Antioch, we're at a time when there's discussion that Antioqu will be sold. Could you tell us about that? And what do you think that will mean to report war?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1821.429,1856.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, not long ago, there was a group of Negro youngsters. I don't know from whence they came, but they were outside of the church and they handed out a sheet. And the sheep was begging the parishioners and the pastor of Antioch not to sell their land. In essence, it said if Antioche goes, Fourth Ward goes. So this is probably some of the meat of the coconut of this pressure to sell. If Antioch is a light, a beacon light to people in Fort Worth. They really figure if Antioch goes, then there will be no hindrance for all of Fort Ward to go. Antioche is standing in the way of acquiring all of Port Ward, and Negroes will have nothing to look to in Fort Ward if Antioc is sold. And I think people know this, I think if they can acquire Antioch, then there will be a clean sweep. I understand there are many financiers from the East who come in and look at that property, and pretty soon they intend to acquire it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1857.06,1948.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you tend to try to do best?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1948.28,1949.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there's very little I can really do about it, I realize that, because, you see, I'm very poor and the people who are trying to acquire it, let's just face reality, they are very rich. And it's just like David, you know, he had everything he was keen, but he saw one little man's wife over there that he just had to have. With all of his riches, he had to have this one little item that was really off-limits to him. So I think that they have all of this land and all of this money and now this is just one little fly in the ointment. We have to have Auntie Young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1952.39,1997.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e For you. Tell me what you see happening now in the future hold for Antigone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=1999.99,2009.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e Well the future of Antioch is related to the whole process of change within the whole spectrum of a growing metropolitan area which is growing almost far beyond anyone's expectations to the point that within just a very few months and years this is probably going to be one of the largest cities in the world. And so in the process of all of that change, where does a relatively small black congregation fit into that whole schema? The reality is that when one begins to think about change, there are first of all those persons who are the agents of change. Those persons who in decision making positions with regard to how change is going to take place. I'm of the opinion that some very critical decisions were made about the future development of this downtown area some 25 years ago. In the early 1940s, the city of Houston and whatever federal and state agencies might have been involved, made a decision that there would be an interstate freeway system that would go through the heart of downtown Houston. Interstate 45, which runs now from Dallas all the way through down to the coastline of Texas and Galveston, goes within only a stone's throw of the Antioch Church building. With the erection of that freeway, the development of the whole interstate freeway system in our backyard, so to speak. What happened was a psychological as well as a physical barrier was erected, which separated the church primarily from the people that it served. It would be very likely that the progress downtown will just move right on into that area. The growth of downtown Houston is going to be like a spreading cancer that has already metastasized. There's no way to stop it. Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's how can you tell. You know that's I'm not sure that I can really deal with that question. We'll only know whether it was good or bad you know 15 years from now. The point is that 15 years ago nobody thought enough of the decisions that were being made to put about or to start the preventative measures from seeing what was going to happen. Who made those decisions 15 years I'm not sure who made them. There are the standard agencies which make decisions about the way in which cities grow. Your city planning department, your city council, the mayor, whoever are the community residents who permit this kind of thing to happen. There are many people who are involved in the decision-making process, and unfortunately the people who are now living in Allen Center will be the victims of the decisions that have already been made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2010.89,2181.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e So where the hell are we going with this film? I mean, it seems to me that all we're doing is shooting interviews. All we've got is this talking head material. And although what we may be doing is getting a. Laying down information about the fourth ward, laying down material which describes what it's like, the problems of the people that live there, and some of the opinions of some of the people who have interests in there, like the few owners that are still left, and the landlords that make money out of it. It seems to me that we've got more than enough of that material. The time has come now to really get on into the dangerous part of the film, and find out. Who are behind some of the major kind of interests in Houston, the large corporate entities of which it's so difficult to find anything about, and who are the heads of those corporates. Entities and what their plans are for Houston and whether or not in fact they do have plans for Houston and are they simply making money for themselves or do they feel that the good of Houston is going to come at the end of all this. Is there a conspiracy or not? Is there a conspiracy on the part of large, of big business? As someone said in the film, to feather their own nest at the expense of minorities such as blacks in the Fourth Ward who have no way of defending them. The problem of Antioch Church sitting in the middle of all those car parks. If it falls, if it's knocked down in the path of the Allen Center development, does that mean in turn that Fourth of Water is going to fall as well? And if it does fall, does that matter? I mean, are we answering these questions? All we're doing is just looking and describing what's there. We're not actually drawing any conclusions. We don't have anybody really in sight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2184.58,2295.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Situation, we just have a lot of interviews right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2295.98,2297.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e We've got a lot of people who are going to have things done to them. But we haven't got anybody that's going to actually do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2297.95,2303.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I felt the same fear I had felt going into 4th Ward, but this time with good reason. If Tom was right and there was a conspiracy, then what the hell were we doing, charging downtown into the den of the conspirators? Why should we expect them to give us a straight answer? On the other hand, if Tom wasn't right, we were going to make ourselves look like asses. What do you do, charge up to a guy and say, hey, are you part of a plot? There's no way we were gonna find the right question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2306.29,2332.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, a lot to add to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2332.56,2333.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course the obviously Houston is going to going to grow outward I'm wondering what is going happen to play some of the people who live in the areas that immediately surround the downtown area the history of the pattern and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2334.97,2349.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Houston has been that as development from the Corps moved out, that the older housing, which is not really standard housing, substandard housing in most instances, is replaced further out by new and modern housing or better housing than they now have. And the history has been the prices of properties close in increase and the people move outside to buy. More house with the same money. Now this is particularly true I think in the early 50s and beginning in the 50s I should say. A property acquired by eminent domain for freeway construction in the near downtown area. Virtually all of the people who lived in what was primarily substandard housing in those areas moved out into better housing. May not have been first class housing but it was better than they had. And this has been our history. And I think you'll see as the pattern of the development continues that the people who live there will move into better housing. Some of the highest priced housing in town is slum housing nearby. Unbounding Fourth Ward, well you name it, I didn't, but some of it is priced at more per room and per square foot than luxury apartments are renting far. And the costs are just tremendous when you equate it to the amount of space it's occupied. And this is one reason that some of the slum lords who own some of this property are reluctant to tear it down, and they don't want to improve it. They just want to keep it going as it is. What really should be done is that the tax levees should be made based on what they think their property is worth, the underlying land is worth. That'll make the slums... Unprofitable and you'll see better buildings built on present location and you will see the people who are now the victims of these high rents move into better housing at the same amount of money or less.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2350.03,2472.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the things that we've heard just investigate in this whole thing about the growth of Houston is that one of the reasons some of the slum lords don't want to do anything about their property is that they are waiting, and that they're speculators in essence, that they are waiting for downtown to jump the freeway and Antioch Church to be sold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2473.97,2491.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Antioch Church is inside the freeway, and Antioche Church, it thinks of a thing all by itself, it has already received the Enhanced Vidya. The membership of that church though is certainly diminished because of the clearance of the Cullen Center and the Allen Center and Civic Center property, which just a few years ago were totally occupied or substandard dwelling. Leaving Antioch Church out of it completely. I think you'll find that the land values already are there. The tax collector is just a little behind on his tax collection. He's working in River Oaks and Montrose and ignoring the fact that the nearby property which is occupied by poor people is owned by wealthy people who are paying far less than their share of taxes. But eventually, Fourth Ward will become a part of downtown, do you think? Well, there's no question of it. And if a proper tax were put on it, it would happen pretty fast. It will happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2492.77,2555.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the Ministers of Antioch Church said that plans had already been made 10 years ago for what would be done with the area of Antion and the 4th Ward. What's your answer to that? By who? By the powers that be. What powers? City planning... 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It's too valuable for single-family residential dwellings. How could you describe those economic forces? Just the pure fact that Houston is growing, and the downtown grows, and it's not manufacturing any new land. So it has to move out, and as it moves outward, there are buyers who say, I can use that land, and I can pay more than it's worth for its present use. And it's because of any plan. Nobody is planning. The powers that be don't exist. They are the economic forces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2575.04,2644.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If this was a conspiracy, it was out in the open. Welch's answers were completely plausible. The city was growing, and buyers could use that land for something else. But as sensible as that sounded, one could still ask whether or not it should happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2645.76,2660.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e My grandfather, he was G.A. Reeves, a contractor in the city. He first bought a three-room house, that's the portion you see there, to the property. Then he and his sons added on, and now we have our three-bedroom home. And it's just the way he built it. The home, since about 1902, the property itself, 1893. You heard the phrase, we have our roots here. 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A lot of history is going to go with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2700.23,2707.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, a lot of his fear. A lot of pleasant memories, even childhood memories for a generation farther back than my generation because my father and his brothers and sisters were read here. And, well, it would be terrible. We'd really hate to leave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2707.24,2729.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e What kind of tree is that over there? That's a red myrtle tree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2730.569,2733.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e This is also Craig Myrtle and it's very old. I'm sure it must be at least 70 years old. It's beginning to crack now whenever there's a hard wind. It's so very old","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2735.16,2745.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Since we've been out here in Fourth Ward conducting this investigation, we've heard a great deal of speculation about what is going to happen to Fourth Ward and the land in Fourth ward. Have you heard this kind of speculation? How does it concern you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2748.15,2762.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I've heard several things that some businesses would buy over in our area. We have a Cadillac place down there, and that's about the first big business that has come into the area, so that has made us wonder. 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If they really wanted, you know, I think big business gets what it wants when the little man is concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2828.52,2843.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Does that bother you, you know, that you want to keep your house and yet you know that if the decision has already been made to, you now, bulldoze down all these houses that you're just going to have to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2843.82,2855.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e I feel that it is bad that we, community people, are being disregarded in the decision. However, I know how big business works, but I think they should be a little fair with us and let us know what to expect because some might not be prepared if what we think is going to happen does happen anytime too soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2858.01,2882.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This woman had a real effect on me. I still thought Tom was wrong, but what gnawed at me was that there was still something which seemed absolutely right about what he was saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2885.39,2896.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I really am not. I am just acutely aware of all the problems that people in 4th Ward are facing and have just really done a study on 4th ward for the past 4 or 5 years. This 4th Ward represents a microcosm of all of the problems, that affect and afflict poor people. So I'm not setting myself up as an expert on 4thth Ward or a spokesperson for the people there. I think... What has to happen? That everybody has to get concerned about it because while it's fourth war today it might be them tomorrow and i think that you know the only analogy that i can i can think of is as long as uh police brutality was a word that was used in the black community nobody was concerned about it you know just a bunch of niggas over there complaining about the police you know beating them up and figuring that the police had a right to do this but as soon as the police started arresting, you know, young white people simply because they had long hair, you Then people understood the problem that black people have been complaining about all the time. You know, and I get him back, you know, the analogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2896.41,2969.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Mrs. Cooke had raised the question that Louis Welch had left out. If people don't want to leave, shouldn't they have a say in what happens there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2969.32,2976.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e About the decisions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2977.12,2977.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You understand what I'm saying? What do you see? Why are you making the film?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2980.34,2984.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I felt, I suppose, like a lot of people did. But I didn't understand what was going on. I looked at this beautiful city that we live in and I saw a lot of things that I didn' understand. And I felt that I was then very well equipped to try to find out because I had all the questions and none of the answers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=2989.14,3015.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, now the movie is gone, gone for about two weeks, what do you see the material doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=3017.72,3022.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Right now, I think we've established a lot of the problem, you know. I think the material says, just sort of cries out that there's a problem. I don't see it as any proof of a plot. I'm willing to accept that as a possibility. I think that's where we gotta go and begin digging. Because I think really there's those things that underlie all of the, all of the city's functioning, that affect all of us as Tom's saying. Um, we've got to, I want, I wanna make them bare so that we can see them. 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Which part of it? Who? What person? Who did you feel most sympathetic to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=3092.39,3100.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a hard one to answer. I think I was sympathetic to all of them. I found something to identify with all of it. Hell, I remember when we lived in a shack in Oklahoma back in the 30s. And my dad had a nervous breakdown because there wasn't any way to keep the kids alive. I think we've all been through that route, you know, many of us anyway. You know, at first, when I went into the Ford Ward, I was scared because although I'd shot film in Africa and related to Africans, I'm afraid of the hostility that might be facing any white guy going in there. And the more we're in there now, the more I begin to realize just how much we have in common.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=3103.87,3157.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you know the one thing about, you know, 4th Ward, when any of us go in there, we all understand that we're just links in a chain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=3160.47,3169.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e Better play, yeah, I'm going home","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=3170.509,3173.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what you think at this point, but I had my serious doubts about Tom's story. Still, I thought the people did feel pushed out. How come they had no say? To me, a neighborhood and a home was a sacred place. It didn't seem right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592#t=3184.71,3198.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14103/file/270592/transcript/79633/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e We shall lay down to sleep, in peace my brethren, and messes the land. We're gonna lay down, and take our rest. 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