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Like him. But this this problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=6.78,10.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To move on to their to to fly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=14.94,16.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think. We see a wide range and clarity and different techniques manner and very often is a privileged camera position as opposed to the what you're talking about. Would you say there is I mean, it is impossible for the camera to be at 16 places at once, as it was in the boat. It was up on the shark or in Louisiana or a. Created effect of the battle with the alligator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=19.98,52.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The crocodile. You know those those are the the what I call the boat. A little thing Learning that me, his films. 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I didn't get it on tape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=66.43,68.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the to me that his films were a strange mixture of absolutely inspired investigations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=68.62,77.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e With the camera and the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=78.4,80.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sort of a, an exploration of usually sort of physical things trees, rocks, storms, places, activities that people have downs or cooking a meal or something that they do not have communication maybe they couldn't deal with. Which he made acceptable by inserting little vaudeville acts. Up. And, you know, a lot of people only remember the bolt of the locks. Practically every film had a piece of rope with somebody at one end and something else at the other end. It's down to the old tug of war, which is a miracle. I'm out of here. The little act which amuses people, which is fairly easy to make amusing. It's like a chase scene. And don't you think that was really important? Just as important as it is, is other. No, I don't, I at least I don't think it was very important to him. And I was totally I find them very uninteresting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=83.71,157.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Filmic play or any other way romantic with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=159.58,162.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, the first one was with The Seagull, and I'm not going to see. 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You know, goofy. That might have been that case. Probably had more relationship to what really happened with Bob.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=176.86,189.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the others who spoke. 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I understood that, Mrs. Flaherty told me the reason for this highly edited scene was that the alligator didn't bite. You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=194.51,201.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Just came right to the bank south and said, please take this hook out of my mouth to the. Mouth. Well, he was in a bind. You know, you have to get these things in the paddles. And he's got Bernard in the audience. Nobody was interested in his esthetics in those days all the time. But Mallory's stocking up on the paddles. And he had to make something. 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Well, he loved people who would do whatever it is they did well. My experience with them and he was just delighted with good gangsters is good. Anything else? He liked people who would do something and really did great. He liked really anyone who was an expert at anything. Whether was driving a train or or blowing glass or whatever it was. He was delighted with people who did whatever they did well, and these were things that he found fascinating to watch. This is really what then treat him. And this is something that he could, you know, you could see and you could enjoy and you couldn't. And he was he was fascinated with giving you the idea of a tall tree, or the nature of a storm, or the height of a cliff. These are the things that he was fantastic and that he thought about and he was extremely conscious about. You wouldn't discuss them with most people that made this great length. Even the technical aspect, some of what he had found out about how you dealt with these things, and the marvelous thing about him was that each thing that he tackled, except for the vaudeville act, which he knew how to do. Everything else was a total puzzle. He had in the room, you know, most competent directors by minimalistic design of the very definite idea of what he's doing. And he comes in, he says, okay, put the camera here and this and that and the other thing, and he tells everybody what to do, and everybody does it. And it's great. That much is. And you make somebody feel that's marvelous. It works. Bulb in a rival situation. And that's why he hated a lot of people around, because he never knew what he wanted to do. So I had no way of keeping people busy and people want to be kept busy. Otherwise they feel like wasting their time and they get very resentful of a man that doesn't know what he's doing. The marvelous thing about Bob, he never knew what he was doing. He had the moral guts to know it. Not the problems, though. And so, okay, each thing was a new problem. And you started out well. Put the cameras to finding them place. But you can see what's going on. That's what it's for. Look with. So get some place where you can see in, in those days where you had to use tripods and put a tripod and start looking at them. Then when you get sick of looking at whatever is going on from there, let's try somewhere else and then let's look at develop it and from there and look at it. Well, certain things seem to, to, to really convey what was going on. This one seemed to give really an impression of. You know, what does an oil well look like, a drilling rig. How does the what does it look like? Well, he didn't want to show you too much. He never wanted to show you the whole thing. He wanted to to basically, it was a process of feeding you a limited information. Very limited. It was like a horse has blinders on. Don't show the whole thing. Give it to you inch by inch. Give you this aspect of it, this aspect of it. Until what he was really doing was building images in the the observer, the audience's mind, so that they began to create their own oil for their own trade, which was probably much bigger than the train, was the flour. He was photographing them, the oil. Well, if he was photographing, which is probably a pretty pedestrian or a pretty festering oil rig. And, you know, it was almost an obsession with them not to show it in the long shot, but the bullet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=248.03,481.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He did build us. He did build the impressions from a privileged point of view. We would you object to that in any way? The oil well as the as the shot from the top as the rain comes down. Remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=482.83,495.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what instance? No, I have no objection to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=496.42,498.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Clarity doesn't seem to be of the team, but we are. We are there. Not. We're only going to see it from where we can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=503.14,508.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no, no, I don't I don't mean that by privilege point of view, I mean. They were all perfectly possible points of view. And the fact that you get proposed from one place to the other quickly. And what I was, what I meant. But, you know, I don't check for that. That's fine. You have to do that. What I meant is the absurd one Well. You know, like the shots in movies. Bang from the driver. You know bloody well he's not drive. You know, they they have the car in Hollywood without any dashboards, I think. 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The foam, the struggle, the sea as a hand that could reach up and grasp that net and drag it back. It was it was intensely dramatic and was much more so than it would be if you just filmed the sea. You, we call it, uses. It must use almost 30 different shots from about five different angles to express it. It's a it's a you get the impression of a sea, the characterization of it. This would be what you were talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=577.01,645.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Is it clarity it ever from the bullfight instead of just going and filming a bullfight, he would have spent weeks finding out how you photograph a bull so that it scares the living Jesus out of you, because bulls are frightening. But it's another thing to make them frighten you. And that's the problem that he would tackle. And there are many obvious answers. Thought it would take a real program of exploration to find out how to do that. I've never seen a shot yet in the bullseye five films, but I've never seen one where that bulls scare the living. Jesus, how many of you have been close to a bull, my boy? That scary? I've never seen anybody succeed in doing that. But this would be his approach. He. 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His film was based on screening. I've never in my life encountered the person who looked at his rushes the way he did over and over again, looking for what worked and what didn't, and who had the discipline to not what didn't work. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=716.17,731.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is where I'm just going to say, okay, not you said that. You feel that. Clarity, investigation and so forth. Was was the move toward this analytic? It seemed like what an expression of a thing of the of its essence. And in doing so he uses quite often a lot of cutting. You made this statement once that, that by being tricky or using a lot of cutting that way in terms of like you lose the sense of being there. Do you think that the sense of being there was this wasn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=733.14,774.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Just just wasn't true with him, you see. But. Well, when we're dealing with, we're dealing with people communicating. And when we start chopping up scenes, that's when two people are talking and we start being tricky and cutting. All of a sudden, you lose the sense of these two people actually talk. That's totally fine. It's basically the, the it's in this area. But but we start to lose. Not in the visual. He was. Visual explorations. Whatever you want to call them. He had money. One of the things that I'm most and working with him was, again, something lots of people working with him projected. Hi, Karen. It's nice that you can. Boy climbing in the tree. And we'd have the thought bug and his hair would be right. And the show would be right. And we'd have his father there on the raccoon. And that's not the other thing. And we had all these people along. And on the way we saw a magnificent thunderhead. And we stopped and film the Thunderhead, and we went on and on filming it. And then he saw a cobweb, but he fell in love with it. We filmed that. And there's everybody. All the sensible people were saying, kept looking at their watch and saying, look, we've got to get that shot up. Let's go do that. And we can film Thunderhead some other time. We can form cobwebs some other time, but we're keeping all these people waiting, and we really got to go and film what we set out to film. People tend to get very aggravated by things like this, but in my entire life, I've never seen a cobweb that was like that. Anything like it. The conditions of dew on the cobweb, the way the sun was heading up, the placing of everything. I've never seldom seen a cloud like that under the tree. We can do any bloody time. But. But it takes its unbelievable work up sometimes. And this is what? Patrick and Charlie. It's why it's different. That night here, he was working with a couple of friends. Nobody had any money. Time was not important. They didn't have a schedule. In fact, the longer they talked about it. Because then it was sort of cheaper to work it out, you know? And that's why Pather Panchali is full of these marvelous things that they found experienced taste that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=774.39,961.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You would say. And one of the things about clarity, and one of the admirable things that probably should be in many films, is the ability to act like a sponge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=963.27,971.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e On to to sum up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=973.11,975.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What you know all the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=976.35,977.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Around. Don't you know he wasn't that the frequencies full of preconceived things, but the marvelous things are the things where you discover something, where you will you see something with an eye that it's wow. It's extraordinary that the. And this takes time. The extraordinary shot, the alligator. It took us months to get well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=978.0,998.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e For instance, the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=999.15,999.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't get them on a schedule. You don't tell the alligator to look ferocious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1000.29,1003.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Or to snap at a heron, blue heron or whatever. Right. But for instance, the little bag of salt. This was preconceived to a certain degree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1005.63,1015.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This was part of the program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1015.94,1016.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But here again, though, there was another thing which is analogous to him stopping and filming a cobweb. Is it, as I understand, he had read in In the Hidden histories of the people of this area, of their mythologies, legends. You'd read about this bag of sort. So in a sense, he had something to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1017.39,1039.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well, I, I feel very differently about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1040.19,1043.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I, I, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1043.579,1046.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The boy had a very rough time acting that role because the physical. The bag was sold just wasn't right for him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1053.06,1062.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He's a woman. So I guess you. I think it was then. So you, you, you yourself how difficult it is to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1065.22,1088.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Never get anything but the basic and very easy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1090.04,1094.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Somehow we need this I don't know about. Yeah. We were talking about stopping up things, and you said that you didn't. You had a different view of the bank, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1096.18,1116.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I. I don't, you know, I don't like the story aspect. Some of Louisiana story. 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Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1134.62,1144.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1150.67,1150.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e It's just a bit too goofy. You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1152.95,1160.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a basically sort of quite old story. It's not the interesting thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1160.69,1165.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Well. Problem. I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1165.79,1176.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I you know, I'm saying the film. I don't give a damn about the story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1177.13,1181.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you think? You mentioned that we were talking about Flaherty's poetry. 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He used it after Mona tended to use more and more of this metaphorical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1204.97,1214.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Analogy. It's yeah, it's not it's not an aspect that really intrigues me about this work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1219.43,1224.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e What's fascinating is the other thing I think is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1226.09,1229.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1234.28,1234.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, a lot of land was owned by Rockefeller. Mark Mohammed's. Trampled down on oil wells.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1235.36,1243.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Up this way. Yeah. I suppose you could dig up one map of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1244.25,1249.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e On the dial. Well, I very much doubt. Basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1249.76,1254.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Wasn't really saying anything about nature. It's the whole gamut of things on the books. Marvelous observation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1257.3,1265.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Testing, testing. One. Two. 345. Testing. One. Two. Three. Four. Five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1276.89,1282.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e What are you crying about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1296.21,1296.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What was he crying about when he cried for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1299.18,1302.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He predicted big. Okay, great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1303.95,1307.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And then he cried in the bed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1308.27,1309.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, You always do that. But, you know, let's. Look at them. Look. Look at them. Whoa! Hee hee! Oh! Yeah! Whoo hoo! Oh! Thank you. Oh! Oh!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1310.55,1358.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh! Yeah. Yeah. He knew. The day. Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1360.8,1432.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do like Colin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1438.15,1438.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. What in the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1447.24,1452.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e World is going on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1452.16,1453.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh. I'm recording. Oh. I'm good. Then I'm back. So, what do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1453.88,1472.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1477.24,1477.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You got him, baby. Looking at the paper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1482.1,1486.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you play? What did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1488.79,1490.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I couldn't love it, but I couldn't fathom, you know. It couldn't. One of my blue. Haired men got one more easy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1490.99,1503.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I wonder why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1507.07,1508.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You did that, my dear. Maybe. Make it up. Baby. I think he breaks the bridge. There's a camp. Then he'd recommend you. Party. Hey, guys. It's no. Good. When we really, really make you make it up. I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298#t=1509.92,1582.07"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141773/file/262298/transcript/76673/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/076/673/original/trint_Coll458_jb0027_Leacock_01_transcript.vtt?1740614380","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/076/673/original/trint_Coll458_jb0027_Leacock_01_transcript.vtt?1740614380"}]}]}]}