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Fine. I wish you hadn't seen that. I'm very sorry that there are no titles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=4.41,16.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to be working with people. I know generally. 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And so I'd say it in English or in French, depending on whichever language that I was. In French, sometimes I say the word in English. From there I go on in English. 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Even just to film. 35 short films and sweat about every one of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=80.4,91.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've been president of a jury in Vancouver with with John Grierson and Pauline Kael.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=92.7,96.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But that's quite a lot of competition there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=98.91,100.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We need to do it. We had great time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=101.52,103.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I had a friend of the family in North Africa where he had to interpret Tunisian, French, Arabic, German and mainland French. All these, all of these. One man got and he was going. He had only had an Arab from Tunisia. You had the the German soldier and a Frenchman, French children. He was English. And he was carrying on a conversation connecting all of these people and at the back, and came up to him and asked him whether John was better, just couldn't think of what to say, and he couldn't reply. 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And, well, from now on, you know, when I speak to a stranger, I devise a kind of fantastic French accent like this. And I did, and they become very polite. And they say, yes, he understands and they're very conscious, and they have the everything I want. And there's a slight mistake I make. It worse. I have to use this over the telephone at the hotel, because otherwise the conversation can't go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=189.71,215.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you speak to the English?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=216.71,217.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's not too good English. It's just that slight imperfections. But you know, which doesn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=218.21,222.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You can't, Ricky, that we want to. Where the hell are you from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=223.43,225.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And. Why can't you understand me? And then this kind of thing. So then I become a stranger. I become a Frenchman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=225.44,233.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A charm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=235.45,235.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e With Richard. 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And yet we want to do a dramatic film, a feature film, you know, and for a legitimate cinema sometimes. So we were looking for something to do, digging in French Canadian novels and or thinking up ideas ourselves and nothing, you know, we kept discussing, discussing nothing. We clicked. And I was coming back from Europe after having stayed there three years, and Claude from here met Joanne and they got strung together and began to tell her. You know, he he told her, you know, Chloe is back from France. And so she began speaking about this whole story we had and how I'd left her and, and how sad she was and so forth. And he was fascinated by her personality. And he said, you know, this is the film to do. So the next time we met, he said, you know, would you be willing to meet Joanne again? This wasn't even supposed to be our story. You know, we we're supposed to meet again. You know, it was about it was a bit like connecting to, you know, like the metal thing. 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That's just the real thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=594.98,596.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Most of the people in there are people that were intimately involved with you anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=596.96,600.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes. Oh, well. Joanne. Victor. Nice. 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Yeah. And that was a very difficult thing to shoot. We tried to shoot this another scene, which we tried to shoot a couple of times, and that thing really happened. And then, you know, in real life. Yeah. And I remember being very moved. And, you know, I was really crying when she really told me, oh, we couldn't reach deep. 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No, no, no platform. Just a tripod to feed my own child. You know, shooting down. All right. Well, yeah. 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Homosexuality thing. You know, and she'd say, you know, I can't say that's why I said it. You know, if you don't say if you don't make your confession out with that mind. 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We had to redo it later. And then late. Another day? Much later. You left. And after a long, long discussion. About where we should do it or not. And then we really did it. Michelle worked that. Michelle shot that. They didn't really shoot it. It just said the camera and left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=940.01,963.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you were alone with the camera guys? Here we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=964.82,968.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So those were real problems. That's not the real question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=972.62,975.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Here you are. This is the kind of thing I'm interested in. Trying to find open space, in a sense, a basis for. 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But the the problem that they're one of the worst problems, that we had just as much trouble, by the way, with the other thing, we have homosexuality. We had to reshoot it many a time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1017.92,1029.109"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, this is one also one of your scenes, which is the most cutting and the effective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1029.56,1033.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you mean with the boy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1034.569,1035.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, with the boy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1035.619,1035.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know that. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the one where is you and gets me to confess that, you know, that's the one we had. Because the other one was with an actor who wasn't involved, by the way. This was all shot without anybody knowing what the whole scene was about. The actor knew but very little. Anyone. He was an actor. He wanted to act the part. Yeah. You know. And I said, don't you know, we're just two people and we're establishing this strange rapport that they don't mind. I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1036.099,1071.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The legend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1072.6,1073.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But, you know, the scene gone because this this was really, you know, touching the point in both of us where it really hurt. This is why we had we had trouble doing it. And people very often people who see the film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1074.19,1088.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e This.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1089.4,1089.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Morning when the they see the scene of Joanne's confession, they criticized my reaction as well, in which they're perfectly right, because I move back and forth and I don't seem to be very involved. And when I do intervene, I'm not at all natural.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1089.61,1107.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And this is Joanne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1109.74,1110.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1111.51,1111.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think that stand. I was I was very much. That's one of the things that remains on my mind from afar. Because of your name. I think there was an ambiguity in your in your comportment, you know, which I thought was correct. Echo and uneasiness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1112.54,1128.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well, I don't have to think of what you're saying. I feel like this personally, too. But I was in a terrible state at that very moment. Is there was I, along with Joanne, and after having tried many a time to do this scene and never having succeeded, and this was a crucial thing, right? And if I didn't get it this time, I'd never get in a whole film. 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I hadn't worked with Martin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1183.11,1186.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, she's a great actor. She's a great friend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1186.68,1188.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This has been in there, but it didn't smell like acting. 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Not acting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1194.69,1195.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't know this woman. She's a god like this. Goddamn. And I didn't blow her heads. I had to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1195.62,1201.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It takes 12.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1203.2,1203.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She was introduced to me by Victor Daisy. And that was I, you know, just. Thank you. You know, when Ava Gardner is 60 years old and you come to a, you know, a woman like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1204.26,1214.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1215.21,1215.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You offer her a part in the film was shot in 16mm with non-actors, no fees behind it. And she's to play my mother. And I felt it was kind of very delicate. You think it's very glamorous? People like that. It wasn't easy, but we very soon established kind of high class together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1215.93,1232.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What would you say helped you establish the rapport?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1233.18,1235.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I would tell her the host, I told her the whole story, and I was very sincere and direct with me and told me everything that she was all about and told her things about my mother, which are not in the film. Then I told her, you know, this is not to be said, but this is the real the real story. This is what's behind it. I feel good about it. And I gave her as much information as I could about the situation myself. And I met the character of my mother and so forth. And then I said, let's take the first scene with it where she's writing things about, which is, I think you're talking about trivialities, you know? So turn around, beat around the bush without really speaking like a madman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1236.69,1279.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's like you're doing one other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1279.74,1281.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So I thought that that's what I wanted. And yet we should feel that it's some kind of tense tension should be hinted at in the scene when between the two characters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1281.66,1292.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You explain it to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1293.3,1293.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Him, yes, but not expressed. And then we talked about things that should be spoken about. So I, I said, let's speak about this. And the scene lasted for a lot more than that. It lasted for, you know, it's about four minutes. And the films would our takes would be almost half an hour. We made about 2 or 3 things. We made two complete takes, and then we reshot bits on the 23rd. Take them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1294.01,1317.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But did you find that the improvization sort of ambled on and on and on, and that you had to do in the editing, constructing to make a scene out of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1319.16,1325.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that was one of the scenes, because I was doing dealing with somebody with which was an outsider, but it had to be more constructed than others, was very loosely constructed. So I said, well, first of all, we'll say hello. In our case, you know, how are you, mother? And then fool around with the dogs and then we'll talk about you'll talk about the insurance. And, you know, the trouble is you have keeping the the books of the house and the budget and so forth, and you'll see about my daddy being late for supper all the time. I do like that new country house he had to repaint, you know, so in order to remember. 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And I said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1370.15,1373.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Know, because if it if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1374.33,1375.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It goes wrong, don't if it goes to run all the way to Scott, but for one little bit, if something goes wrong, you can just take it over again, you know, and not worry. You die. And it's just all very relaxed and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1375.49,1391.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's like, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1393.31,1393.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Informal. So there was there is no solemnity. She was very surprised because she had used to work with big, bruising Studios. Makeup artist. Costumes vibrating. And she she liked them, so it went very, very well. Yeah. We've got right. And there we we really established that between her and I before we shot and then on camera to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1395.58,1420.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And I've tried.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1421.3,1421.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To there's really no problem. And the same thing with the scene in the bed. But you get the scene in the bed. I had a sheet of paper of what we had figured out, all the items that we should speak about and in which order, and she had the brain of the mind that we vaguely rehearsed, not the lines, but what we were going to say to each other. Answer. Okay. And I had a sheet of paper I written with the grease pencil. You know, words like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1422.77,1450.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know where to draw the sheet, right? Where did you have it? 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You know, it built up gradually. There's two scenes with her were shot in England one afternoon. 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And the funny thing, this was shot in my parents home. She was wearing my my mother's nightgown in their bag with her dogs. And as we were shooting, my mother came. So they met before the shooting, which made things so real weird. Real me. My mother was very flattered at the impersonation by such an actress and 20 year old. 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No no no no no no no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1577.23,1580.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, what's happened is being in the. And then a new film. It's been a total disaster, but a real love.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1582.06,1589.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I want to hear about himself. 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His experience with me went to his head. I thought maybe it was because I had given him a lot of freedom. And we loved doing the story. And we told us that I was being bothered by one lover, and it was after me all the time, bickering and etc. that's all. All I wanted and I wanted nothing more specific. So I told him about what had happened and I'm kind of character, but I said, you can change the film and put a lot of yourself into it. Because, you know, the accuracy of the character in that instance wasn't too important. The only important thing was that he was standing between Jordan, myself, and he was bothering both Joanna and myself, and he was trying to. And I sent him into the pacifier. Why have you when it was just a pain in the neck? 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You don't get of establish rapport people and then do it all with editing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1731.78,1735.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Other than giving and just for certain indications on the kind of attitudes they were to have, you gave them no particular direction from the standpoint of character. No, no no, no. You wanted them selves. They themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1737.33,1751.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't let the actors. No, no, with Tanya said, oh, for example, they played my mother. I had to tell her all about how old my mother is. What are your ideas or feelings? How she acts with me every day. She had to study them. And understand that they like the film. 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Not only. I found out somewhere Don seemed to get in trouble was when his people tended to try to write their text as they spoke. You know, speak dramatic text rather than just be, hey, you know, Don got into this problem a couple of times. I feel myself work a little bit too much where you found the feeling that really the mother was laying it on a little thing, you know, being dramatic. You know, she was improvising.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1793.72,1818.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he had much less control, I would say, over the actions. Much faster, much less control over the editing. 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Did you have the two missions before shooting in which you allowed them to warm up to there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1886.38,1892.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not at all, no. You just had met Kenya for the only once before that. And I vaguely told her, and we had this very shy and stiff rapport with him. But when we came to the day of the shooting, she arrived at my parents place. Place? And this is where it all happened. As I tell you, she arrived at 12:00 by seven. 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Yes. It's cause you, like, you know, these kids keep in class. The kids keep going. That's not moral. Yeah. It is. So I bet you didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=1997.85,2009.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You find out as you came in. You sit right here next to. Me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=2010.16,2015.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. But what? How did how did what did you find? How did you find first to join it. Learned anything from the other two times that helped her. Really? In this time I did. 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And he came he talked her into it and said, oh, yes, come on, show, I know your work, and we'll do it this way. And there'll be no camera movement. And he said, oh, I have a better idea. Still not turn on the camera and I'll go next door and have a drink in the cafe next door, and you just switch it off when you're through. And if it doesn't work, it won't matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291#t=2181.14,2204.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262291/transcript/76707/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And so forth. 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No, I didn't leave it to go to after that. Leave me to leave led me to leave Montreal. And that year, actually, I went to Venice first to the festival I was supposed this year. 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So that that year I was I had the occasion to go to a Venice festival because charity was ancient at Venice. Two and by the way, the, the real life thing happened during the year of shooting charity. 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You're not too far away on that. No, you're alright. No, you're all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=23.27,27.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This is Candid's recording. This is the mute sound off the distance. Rushka, Candid recording.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=29.1,34.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, you know that the presence of the microphone is changing the truth of this situation. Nothing that Claude says tonight can be believed. 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What is it they say in California? Can we visit that? Oh, I suppose, I just was getting warmed up, you know. Make a film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=50.88,64.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You can go ahead and talk to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=64.54,65.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I recorded something. You know, during the first part before you knew about it, the machine stopped over there, the tape got wound up somehow and piled up. I got most of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=68.64,81.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=85.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you hear anything at all, Claude, of the film that Terry Bill Gates made last summer, at the board? I think it was Jean-Claude Wouf, in the French-Sephwood Islands. 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He picks up the tripod and runs with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=120.52,123.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=124.11,124.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Take a picture of me? 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Oh, he does most of the real good stuff. He did Solange on Campagne. He does all the things. He's really our star camera. He's being called for in Italy now, so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=177.78,190.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And he just is soft trained, I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=190.95,193.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. He used to be a jackass, really. He was at the board as an assistant cameraman. He was a total failure. He wrecked about three trucks and as many cameras. He totally undisciplined. He was just a fire, and very rightly so. And he disappeared for two years. And then he reappeared with the shooting of Etupon, because as I said, Michel and Claude Fournier it were away and I was left without a camera man. So I called upon a friend, an amateur cameraman, he came reluctantly, he's the one who plays the villain, you know, with the cat in there and that, and a few of those shots, in which I am not, were shot by myself, because we went with this guy, you know, and I said, you'll be my cameraman, but I'll put you a cat and I'll shoot you as the villain and so forth, because you were improvising. And then I said, now you shoot us doing this and that. And this guy said, although this guy's also very clever, he said, no, I can't do it. I said oh, come on, please, you know, even if it's bad, you saved my life and shoot it for me. He said, why don't you call Jean-Claude Labrecq? 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Yeah, so that was one of the Gilles... Did he shoot Caroline also? No, no, no. Who was that? Dufault. Dufaut, yeah. So when... That was one Gilles Cal's first film, I think, if not the very first. So when Gilles was leaving for Vancouver, he kind of asked me... He was bringing along Michel Thomas-Dust, He was a French cameraman in a great tradition. He was a star cameraman, highly paid at the bar and so forth. And he was bringing him along, but he wanted another cameraman to make intercuts and things like that, and he asked my advice. I said, here's a new guy at the board, Jean-Claude, just being considered by Don Schultz, my advice, I said ask for him and take them along. And in the film, there's, I think, one short shot of Michel Tamados left in the film. All the rest of Jean-Claude Lepaille. When people saw that, they were like, wow. You know, that's where I did the, there is one of these divers who climbs, you know, on the highest diving boards. 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Uh, pour me a drink. The camera pans to the bottle. You know, without, it's, his camera movement, and he was shooting, it was in the Oricon and the Zoom. You know. It's, all movements are as swift as the movements of the eyeballs. 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Except for, you know, I told them, like when I said, this sentence is necessary. It must be told, this must be spoken at such a moment. And I told Jean-Claude, when you see this thing coming, I want you to have a two shot or a close-up or so and so. 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No, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=576.65,581.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. Those were, they were none actors, but just people we had gathered. Yeah, and the people in, you know, they were Jean-Claude's friends and people like that. We just gave them instructions not to look at the camera. That's the only instruction we gave them. But this scene, we worked, we, I gave the situation to Patrick and I told Jean-claude, do whatever you like and like the place whichever way you like. 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You know, we knew exactly what we were doing, going to do and so did Jean-Claude and then by then he was able to make two shots close up in this one, close up in that one, he knew what was coming and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=660.45,676.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But you'd shut the whole thing, the rehearsals too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=677.44,679.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes we did you know when we shot it we didn't know they would be rehearsal but i just found out that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=680.33,684.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You didn't use any of the universal material?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=685.38,687.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, none at all. I found that all the good stuff was in take four and take five, and I switched from one to the other occasionally, but they were almost as good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=687.01,696.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So that scene in the park which you shot first, was that a fairly early scene in there, in the shooting of the film?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=698.72,705.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It was, I forget now, it was shot in total.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=706.5,710.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, he was with the film for a long time after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=711.8,714.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that was the first scene that Jean-Claude shot, yeah, that's the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=715.08,718.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e How much have you shot before that in the film?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=717.86,719.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hmm, not very much, very little.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=720.949,724.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, let's do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=726.58,727.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=728.189,728.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a bit not in the film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=731.06,731.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It might not, but I'm trying to sing. I remember when I met Joanne again, we made rehearsals with the Nagra, I would carry a Nagra and walk in the streets with her and just see how it worked out. That's one of the very first things we did actually for the film, although it's not What was the first scene we shot? One of the very first ones was the scene with where we come home together and we find Victor in my bed and that was one of the first ones that was shot, it was shot by Michel, I hadn't met Jean-Claude then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=732.95,775.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Having done this film, which worked out rather beautifully using improvisation and control improvisation, would you have any idea how you might approach another film using the same technique but improving it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=778.88,797.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I have, but except that I'm preparing another film which is totally different. It's all written word by word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=797.71,803.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Why are you choosing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=803.74,804.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And it just happened this way. It's partly in reaction against this style of making films which everybody is slightly tired of, you know, the reaction. It's been such a fad, you now, improvised film. In Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=806.12,823.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=823.73,825.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, also, at the beginning, when I first thought this story, I meant to shoot it this way, but it's kind of a story that doesn't fit, you know, this kind of thing that lends itself to that. And it's a story about totally fictional characters, which are bigger than life, and it's totally unnatural, and so you couldn't, you cannot ask people to be script writers in front of the camera. That's impossible. So when they're playing themselves or somebody very close to them in the scene, which is flexible, you can. But if you want to say a story with a real story and a fictional character, especially if they're bigger than life and then they're estranged to the people who should play them, that's impossible. You have to write it down. And I will not mind giving actors a lot of leeway with the dialog. If you want a change, there's change the words or... That's all perfectly all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=826.57,887.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think that, now having gone through this imperializational experience, that this will have given you some approach to directing actors in a diary, in a written diary?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=888.82,899.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=900.6,900.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e in one way, do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=901.97,902.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well here again, well I have actors that I've used before like Tanya Fidoz in the film again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=903.11,910.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You had directed theater too before, had you not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=911.84,914.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I have not directed theater, I have studied theater. And Aghiaf Manu plays a priest, was my teacher then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=914.28,918.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You've been an actor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=919.97,920.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I studied as an actor with Giffen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=923.26,926.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you think that you might use your improvisational experience in directing actors into a specific text?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=926.97,935.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I would very much like, again, to do exactly like I did in Atropala, and... Start with a situation, which I explained to the actor, and just let him free, you know, not totally free, control him, help him as it goes along. I think it's a thing that works perfectly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=936.19,956.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you think if you're establishing some sort of creative atmosphere that is better than just learning a text?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=958.329,964.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes, oh yes. I believe very much, and I think more important than that is the way the film is shot technically, and having a cameraman like Jean-Claude Ambray, and letting him free without having to break down the scene into shots, or the slate at the beginning of the shot, and so forth. Letting an actor play a whole scene, that's the real, real, the real problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=964.88,990.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e If you're familiar, of course, with Goudard's attempt with the mesas for the Cartier de Paris.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=990.48,996.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Not in detail, I know that it took place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=997.5,999.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Place and Goudar set up the scenario if you wish. Oh, he sent Maisels, Albert. And then said, I'll shoot it. Yeah. He was doing this after you'd done too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=999.27,1010.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's one line that you can add movement to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1010.93,1012.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But he was trying to do something in the same field. What do you think that this contributes, allowing the cameraman complete freedom? 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That's alright, except I kept control all the time. After shooting of the scene, I would ask John Coles, you know, is this alright, and he'd say, I'm afraid I missed this bit or that bit. Or I would ask him, have you got this part of the dialog? And he'd say, yeah, I think so. And I'd say who were you on at that particular time? He'd I was on that person last time. Sorry, that won't do, so we, we, you know, I. 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Does it give it more credibility?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1188.72,1190.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's because, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1193.06,1193.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Does it give an improvised quality to the shoot?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1194.6,1197.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not the improvised quality, it's collaboration because Jean-Claude has a knife for things that I don't have. So he adds some things to what I can bring to the meeting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1197.85,1211.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e In the details of humans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1211.67,1212.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, looking exactly at what's interesting. He has a fresh view on things, and he is such a virtuoso of the camera that he can, just like a violinist, you know, can put something in a piece of music that's already written. He can add something if he's a great fiddler. And he's, Jumplow is a great Fiddler of the Camera, so he can do things I couldn't ask him to do. And you know those slaves, the traditional cameras, they're... What do you want? Ask me what you want, I'll do it. So I say, pan this word. All right. They wait for the word. When the word comes, they pan. Well, you know, this is not bringing something new to the... Adding your own personality. And when he's shooting something, he feels like, you know, so he's doing this, and he's swinging around with his camera, come back to, or somebody else. Well, that's something creative on the part of the cameraman. But he has to be that kind of a cameraman, though. There are very few of them, I tell you that. It's just like actors, you now. 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I'm still searching, but I mean, I'm not sure that you can give me the answer, because I'm not sure there is an answer that can be articulate, but what does this kind of freedom give to a film, from an esthetic point of view? Is there an equality of a film when the cameraman has this identity, that we don't have in a film The cameraman is simply the slave of the director.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=1466.35,1495.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think I can give you the answer. It's a very vague and general answer. I think it adds, what is added to this film is the personality of the cameraman. 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No, absolutely not. No. He's an interpret exactly like actors All right, or the composer there is always a note there. I think no matter. I'm no No matter how much freedom I gave to anybody in, in, at Dupont, I'm still the author. Whatever. But it just adds, and you know, you allow them... It's something that you desire. Yeah, you'll allow them to collaborate and to... Filmmaking is teamwork. Let's face it, even if, you know people who dislike it, like Bresson, they can't escape that. 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So why not accept this before you know beforehand and make it something positive instead of you know a row of hurdles that you have to and the author, the so-called author has to leap over one after the other. Bresson works against this crew and his actors all the time. He tries to destroy them all the time, in order to be himself all the times, which is wrong, I think. 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Well, you know, I take part of this credit for myself. It's because I control her in a proper way, exactly like a director does in different other ways. 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Well, because I have a feeling for him, and I can make him respond to what I demand on his part, and that's directing, that really is directing, but conceived in a slightly different way as it is, not so rigid a way, but it's still directing, and control, and authorship, and what have you, name it the way you like. 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I wasn't the only one in the jury. 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He's not very experienced. You know, I've been making films for 15 years almost, and, you know, it's just, I think he has lots of talent. As for Spartan, he has a big handicap because he is a highly trained cameraman who has been trained in the wrong direction. 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He's sympathetic to me and I, you know, the way, just the way we say hello in the corridors of the film board, I feel this. Others, you could name others, but I would tell you, I don't think I would ever be able to work with this guy. 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You know, they haven't got all the P.S. Yeah I have actor friends, which I like very much as persons. And we discuss about anything, and we understand each other. Or we quarrel in a certain way about certain things. And this rapport exists. 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Even for other ways of shooting, you know, with a very traditional way, you know, the worst comes to the worst. You can always, you know, if your cameraman is the son of a bitch, but you're shooting in a traditional way and say, okay, please lit this this way, it shouldn't this way. Then you don't speak to each other otherwise. That's feasible. It's very undesirable, but it's feasible The way I like it So you have to relinquish that approach entirely. Approach entirely. 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The second wrong Part of the beneficial aspects of it was in playing out dreams, a wishful thought, you had a very definite playing out of almost a death wish, and I find fascinating that you also treated it in a different style than you can understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2359.95,2382.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He went ahead with the job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2383.629,2384.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, this game, this came very spontaneously. 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This one? This one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2812.859,2815.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We found for many reasons that that insert was very useful because it allowed us to time a little there tighten it and control the timing you know because the dialog","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2815.95,2828.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e the dialog within the bank.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2827.67,2829.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Within the bank was recorded later, so it allowed us to time it a little better. 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You're holding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2844.62,2845.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold your thumb on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2847.43,2848.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold your tongue on it when she's done it. Here, hold it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2848.35,2851.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think that's about all I want to know right now. I think I'm exhausted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2855.62,2859.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My God, I love it. It was marvelous. 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I'm going to be going to Europe and talking to all of you guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2887.7,2893.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a merry-go-round.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2893.87,2894.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e First, I want to write a book about it, about the non-actors, what that implies in terms of film, the esthetic of film and the kind of film it might point to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2894.84,2905.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's very difficult to use non-actors for many reasons. 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Yeah, when you need it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2921.09,2925.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Because there comes a time when, you know, neorealism is alright, but it limits the subject matter very much. You have to film a situation quotidienne, you now, in the daily life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2926.51,2939.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is it? How many did you know at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2940.47,2942.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e At times, this is not what you want to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2942.73,2944.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But what I'm looking for is whatever keys there might be to performance that will allow you to obtain from the non-actor or from an actor bringing him into a situation of being rather than performing. Whatever these keys might be, which will enable you to control this and get more out rather than just the situation quotidien. I think this has to be explored more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=2945.21,2972.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think when you're dealing with real actors... 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Yeah, absolutely. It's no longer the exaggerated acting in the movie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3005.82,3011.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's exaggerated in another way. It's exaggerated another way... Instead of going... 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I've read an interview of her which hinted at that. But here is a real genuine actress. I mean, she's got it. And she gives it all, and she confesses, I've never improvised. And you know, I am always scared to death that Strasberg asked me to do some improvisations. I can't do that. Obviously, you know all that which is positive in the method. 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No, don't tell me. Don't tell. Is this the right way out? He does it very bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3094.22,3098.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He does very bad films. He's been doing very bad film recently because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3097.83,3100.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Can all go to Columbia College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3102.42,3103.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He's been directed by weak directors, and he himself exerts too much control on the director, which is awful, when it gets to that level. 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He was great. He was a great actor. But now he's just a parody of himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3136.96,3150.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Of himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3149.87,3150.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Jack Fallon, you know, well, the big knife, Jack Fallons, and Rod Steiger, and Shelly Winters, and what was the, this other girl, Jean, great actor, she was in Kiss Me Deadly. Kiss me deadly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3154.33,3168.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, oh, that's not, I thought it was my joke. Yeah, oh yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3174.66,3178.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, oh yeah, she's great too. She's another studio actress, but she's, she, here's a great actress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3178.12,3182.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't write that down, though, but yes, I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3183.15,3184.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3185.43,3185.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Great actors are very difficult to handle, because they're always on the verge of exerting too much control on the film or the play, or doing too much. It's a very, very dangerous balance, and you can either fall one side or the other. But it's just when you do a slow dance on killing graphics. I saw that play. You didn't see it. Slow dance on the killing ground. It has one great performance by a girl.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3186.9,3221.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and I heard you mention it here and I've heard it before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3221.6,3224.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Get their name. A newcomer, unknown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3224.96,3227.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Your whippet is not the picture, is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3229.57,3231.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So nice, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3234.83,3235.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e A great deal of pencil. To be sensitive and to express this sensitivity in a controlled fashion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3238.53,3247.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't believe in systems very much. I believe in persons, in people. Often, a priori, you know, I would reject the grand style, right? But all of a sudden, you see, you look at films with Jules Berry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3246.87,3267.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I heard it was that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3267.54,3268.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it's too late. Wow. Too late.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3268.67,3270.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Jouret, as compared, it's copo, it already has tennis left, it is a new system. But Jules Berry was trained as an actor in the 1800s. The grand steels, he's, you know, 19th century. 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So it produced a number of very bad actors, but the great ones are still great. And there are some which escape any system that do not fit in any system and they are great. That's Michel Simon, that's Arletti, and you have a few like that. The symbol of another system, his own. Most of the time he's a bad, especially in movies. He has a few parts. Drôles de drâmes, Les Enfants du Paradis, Docteur, an early film, a very obscure film where he played a bit part. Fantastic. 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But there's nobody in the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=3824.17,3828.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much. These guys, they are too difficult. They will not be directed by anybody in the long run. He's a very difficult person. Should he be French-Canadian? No, no, no. He has to be American. He's American. And he has to... The film is bilingual, and part of it is in French, part of is in English. Yeah, and we've taught of him, and he's also great. When I was in New York, you know, I was meaning to go and see Fiddler just to see Mostel. I had very little hope. But now he's being replaced by Luther Adler. 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But I think now, as far as you can see through movie characterization, the man would be Akim Tamiyaf, or the similar. This kind of actor. Who is really ugly, like in Touch of Evil, or Topkapi. 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Is that? Oh, there goes another one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4007.96,4010.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you, in this exchange, did you run into an average white?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4010.89,4014.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, I haven't said it. You didn't say it. You know her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4015.88,4017.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So we'll see you soon then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4018.8,4019.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that Sylvia Sidney? Oh, no, no. He used to be married to her, but he's not anymore. She's called Julie. No, no... Are you sure? 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The ideal person would be, I think, Luther Adler. You know, because he has all the acting capacities and he's just well enough known, you know, that would give confidence to producers, American producers, or any producer, and he's highly respected and he is really a man of some stature and so forth. If I could only convince myself by seeing him in more films or stage appearances, he can be ugly and wicked and repulsive enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4047.05,4087.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's interesting that this is the thing that bothers you about him, because I had never thought of him as a sympathetic person, in fact quite the contrary. 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Oh, we love to have the films with you. Oh, oh, thank you. I saw him in Three Sisters, but I can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4109.92,4114.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he was him that reverted the second version of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4115.229,4120.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That I avoided carefully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4122.279,4124.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a good start to the film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4124.68,4126.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It wasn't that bad of a film. Which one? M with David Wayne. David Wynne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4126.25,4133.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I just saw him as a teddy in Fiddler, where he was immensely likable. And then I saw him in Person backstage, and he was being very kind, he was being congratulated by about 30 persons, and so he's all smiling and all polite and kind. But maybe that's the man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4135.92,4157.319"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He was meowing. 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He's certainly gone down the drain. Do you want a name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4202.02,4213.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I need such a great actor. I need a great actor. 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Probably exist a few actors like that in the States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4233.04,4241.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To find them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4245.39,4245.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Could Strasburg put you on, anyone?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4250.15,4251.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. Do you put these up because you think they're the best ones or? They're the most recent ones. All these have been up before. Most of them. Good to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4253.16,4263.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now tell me, I would be very interested to see Mr. Renoir. Yes. And could you give him a ring? It's all set, you know, between us with letters and things like that. It's so distant. Also, is there any possibility of visiting a major studio where production is going on? Just have a look at this. 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Intraders, oh yeah. 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That the university is branch of? BR? Yes. 2, 8, 9, 1, 1. 2, 9, Extension 3, 8. 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Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4662.68,4666.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Patterns or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4669.08,4669.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, the ride's around that next thing where it's something. And then, um, something's in common. 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It was a marvelous interview, and I was doing very well as an interviewer. I was able to sum up point-blotting, which I haven't been able to do in the last few weeks, because that was able... What's the reason for that yellow dye? No reason at all, because it was a real swingin' style. 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I know this guy very intimately, and it's a question of conditionement, conditioning. And this has taken place, and it has been years in the process, and that was the ending point. And after this, the guy was sent to prison. I've known the guy after this. He became absolutely intoxicated with his own myth. And all these dreams, like being a boxer and so on, he never had those dreams. Bush dreamt of this guy dreamt about being a boxer, but he never did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4931.2,4971.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not the thing that keeps it from being stopped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4971.62,4974.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's a kind of, you know, it is kind of a mutual suggestion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4974.72,4978.559"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That takes place, you know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4979.75,4981.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hour after hour, within days and days and years, and for years it goes on and on and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4982.3,4988.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He got the glass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292#t=4988.76,4989.36"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262292/transcript/79534/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/534/original/trint_Coll458_jb0024_Jutra_02_p1_transcript.vtt?1747070674","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/534/original/trint_Coll458_jb0024_Jutra_02_p1_transcript.vtt?1747070674"}]}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 3 of 3 - 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You know, and Umar Uganda was being convinced that he had dreamed about being a boxer, and suddenly he said, yes, I do. And so we said, go on, go and act him. So he did, act him, so then the film is over, it's all wrapped up, and Jean Roushe here is Cinema Verité, I shot an African here, a true picture of the Africans and the way they think and behave and feel. He's there. It's true in a way because, you know, if Umar Uganda hadn't been like he is, he wouldn't have responded to Rush's suggestion the way he did. And it's true, in that sense. Not only in that, sense. 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Because Rush, one day I heard him talk at the New York equivalent of the Musée de l'Homme, what's it called, the Museum of Natural History, he presented Moir Noir and he said, talked about this man and said that he found him just after he came to, what is the name of the town?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=62.69,90.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=91.19,91.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And that he discovered why he was there. He was there because he had been fighting in the China. He had been at the Battle of Yanbenhu. Which had, the battle of the Inbetrou had been lost, the French had lost that battle, so he returned to his village in, as a failure, and it was because of that, that he had to leave his family, because he was in disgrace. They didn't understand the distinction between France losing the war and their son losing the War, so he had to leave in disgrace. And I put none of that is in the film. I don't know if it's true. Yeah, it is in a film. Yeah, there was a big mention. There's a mention of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Along the river, he talks about that. But that seemed to me to be so much more interesting than anything else that Roush did with him. He came into a lot of discussion about that. People said, well, now, isn't there a weakness of your film that you can't penetrate that because he becomes self-conscious when he talks about that? You know, and he said he really seemed not even to know what was being said, Roush, but he was so involved in all the other things that he created.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=92.95,170.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, that's, that, you know, the, what, the thing that Roush produces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=171.6,176.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What the hell is that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=176.93,177.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's that? 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But he, you know, in French we say l'anthropologie is science inexact as opposed to science exact, and it couldn't be better later. And yet, it's science, but it's a bit of art altogether because... You know, he collects facts in Africa, he's been collecting them for years and he's built statistics with them, very heavy reports, and it's all true, but he interprets this truth all the time, as he does with anything, so he has a very good and interesting knowledge of the African mentality, but, he keeps interpreting it all the time, so before, as soon as... This guy, Umar Uganda, who he met in the port of Abidjan, told him that he came back. He had been in the Indo-China war, I'm sure, as soon as Umar said that, that something clicked in Roushman and he built all the theory and all the motivations and it's fairly true, you know, it's because it's related to reality, he's been knowing for a long time, but he keeps nourishing it and sort of extrapolating all the time, all the things. 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This really happens to me with funny films, when it comes to I'm rolling with laughter. Yeah, rolling with laughing. 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He's a very complex person, isn't he?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=852.05,869.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I was wondering, another thought came to mind when we were talking about how you came to start Tupom in the fashion that you began on your life magazine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=872.22,885.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e At the big grave again, you're sitting there, looking at the camera, you know. You film that after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=889.53,894.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. That was one of the early scenes shot. Just because this is the way things happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=894.46,901.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Because it acted as a marvelous beginning. 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I don' know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=914.59,915.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Shamelessly self-centered in the film and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=917.61,919.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's a gardening glove, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=920.51,922.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So, first of all, this is the way it really happens. You know, it is a fact that I hate parties, that I love to read life magazines. As soon as it comes out on the Wednesday, 11 o'clock, I run for it at the next newsstand, and I also like to impersonate, constantly in my inner thinking, all sorts of characters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=921.95,943.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I didn't know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290#t=945.05,945.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141770/file/262290/transcript/79513/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, exactly. And it wasn't really planned, you know, it just happened as we went along. And I thought, you now, let's shoot that. 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