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She was a tomboy growing up, which was at odds with her family's southern culture. She discusses racism in the south. She went to college in the 1960s to study chemistry, and received the B.S. and M.A degrees. When she was living in South Carolina in 1975, she came out. She moved to Eugene in 1977, and worked at Starflower Natural Foods \u0026amp; Botanicals. Rakar discusses the pleasures of working first in the warehouse, then becoming a purchasing agent and finally driving a truck, delivering food all over the Pacific Northwest and Northern California. Rakar discusses the collective nature of Starflower, a largely lesbian cooperative. She bought a house in Eugene in 1978 with a friend, Kate, when she was working at Starflower. She discusses the difficulty getting a loan. She met her partner, Lina Van Brunt (then known as \"Gypsy\") and she took a special liking to Lina's dog, \"Leafy Greens.\" They have been together for forty years now. Rakar and Lina moved to the Oregon Coast for several years, where they started a graphic design company together. Rakar discusses work and play in the lesbian community in Eugene. Finally, she discusses the nature of the lesbian community and assimilation of lesbians into the larger culture.\n\nKey terms: Collectives; Cooperatives; Country VW; Full Moon Rising planting crew; Gertrude's Café; Graphic design; Hoedads; Jackrabbit Press; Newport, Oregon; Oregon Coast; Peralandra Pearl Divers; Port Orford, Oregon; Printing business; Shooting Stars basketball team; Softball; Truck driving; Wheelchair basketball; Wild Iris (restaurant); Women's Press."]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Rakar West (Interviewee)","Judith L. Raiskin (Interviewer)","Linda Long (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://scua.uoregon.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/607049"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Moving Image"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project Collection consists of interviews of 83 people for the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project, conducted by Professor Judith Raiskin and Curator Linda Long at the University of Oregon starting in the summer of 2018."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["In Copyright"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["University of Oregon Libraries"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/029/original/uo-logo-hires.png?1580744881","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/604/small/Coll520_do062.jpg?1637587274","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Coll520_do062.mp4"]},"duration":4647.68,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/130/604/small/Coll520_do062.jpg?1637587274","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-universityoforegonlibraries.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/130/604/original/Coll520_do062.mp4?1637587274","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4647.68,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["861_Coll520_do062_aligned [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: This interview is part of the Eugene Lesbian Oral History Project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=0.89,19.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The recordings will be made available through the University of Oregon Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives. This is an oral history interview with Rakar West on Monday, August 27, 2018, taking place in the University of Oregon Libraries’ recording studio in the Center for Media and Educational technologies. The interviewers are Linda long, Curator of Manuscripts in the University of Oregon Libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives and Professor Judith Raiskin of the UO Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=20.22,53.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rakar, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project and that you give your permission for the university to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=54.27,63.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yes, I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=63.78,64.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Great. Thank you. Let's just start with a basic question. Can you tell us when and where you were born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=64.64,70.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yes. I was born in Atlanta, Georgia on December 7, 1939. And I grew up in Decatur, Georgia, which was an outlying community then. It's more of a big part of the suburban Atlanta now. So there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=70.81,96.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And can you tell something about your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=96.58,99.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, let's see. My parents were real into music and art. My father painted a little bit. My mother was a piano teacher and a music theory teacher. And my sister was seven years older than I was. So we had kind of real different childhoods and relationships with our parents. And we didn't really have a lot of money, but it was an old Southern family. Manners and appearances, and all those Southern traditions were important in the family. And but as I say, we didn't have a whole lot of money to do extra things with, as I was growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=100.44,152.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did those Southern traditions affect your feelings about yourself and how you might have been in contradiction to some of those traditions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=152.59,161.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, always because as I grew up, I was quite the tomboy. I liked to climb trees. I liked to run around, play ball. And the neighborhood was full of little boys that I played with. My sister was just the opposite. She was the traditional girly girl, I guess. And so I— yes, I was the anomaly in the family. But it didn't really— I always knew that I was loved and taken care of and important and I think that they just wished— I don't think I got this from my father but my mother, I know she wished my behavior would be different. She wanted me to play with the little girls and dolls and things and I just didn't want any part of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=161.43,211.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: How did she try to convince you to do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=211.68,213.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, just talking to me all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=214.43,216.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Was your family religious?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=217.96,219.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: No, I wouldn't say so. When I was in college, I went to church. A good bit, often, but I think it was more for social reasons, than for religious reasons. So I would say no. My mother was raised in a Southern Baptist family. Not the Southern Baptist religious group, but Baptist I should say it that way, I guess. She was raised in the religion. My father was not. But it wasn't really forced upon us at all. Or, it wasn't encouraged that much. It was just what we wanted to do, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=220.02,267.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you have a sense of your sexuality? In middle school or high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=267.35,271.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, yes. And before then I know when I was little, maybe five years old or something I know I was— my little fantasies were about girls. And in high school, I just wanted to fit in, so I had boyfriends and I dated. In college the same thing but I came out late. I came out when I was thirty-five years old. This was 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=271.41,302.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so by then I certainly had the knowledge of that. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=302.94,308.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you remember negative ideas about lesbianism or homosexuality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=308.82,313.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, they were all around me, but I didn't have any.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=313.71,316.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And how did you choose where to go to college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=316.01,321.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, like I say, we weren't very— we didn't have money. And so I went to Agnes Scott College, which was in Decatur, Georgia. I lived at home the whole time I was in college. And part of the time when I was in graduate school at Emory University in Atlanta, I lived at home part of that time and part of the time I had an apartment with a couple of friends and that was great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=321.95,343.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you study in college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=344.37,345.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Chemistry. I should have studied art. But I got off track there because a lot of my friends in high school were studying sciences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=346.26,357.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I went that way. I majored in chemistry and then I went to graduate school in chemistry. So, 1975 when I came out, and one thing about the South are the attitudes that I really didn't find that I agreed with. A lot of racism and a lot of just criticism and sticking to what was expected of you. Of course, by then I was not doing that in any way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=357.72,395.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was trying to get out of that. So when I moved Oregon, I just wanted to get as far away from the South as I could. And so that's what I did. I had visited some friends who lived in Oregon a couple of times and I really liked Oregon. I just thought it was the most beautiful place and some people when they go back to where they grew up, they say, \"Oh, I feel my roots. I just feel so at home there.\" I never felt that there. But when I came to Oregon, I just felt like, “This is my home.” I felt like I had finally found what they referred to as roots. But it was the landscape and just— Oregon is just so beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=396.26,445.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can we go back for a second to— so you're in graduate school at Emory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=445.6,450.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=450.37,450.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And when did you get your— did you get a masters degree?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=450.96,454.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I did. No, it was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=454.13,455.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=455.53,456.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I think it was 1965 but I'm can't remember. I went straight from college and I graduated in 1961. I went to graduate school. But I didn't finish my thesis for a couple of years after that. I kind of dragged my heels and then I finally, finally got it done. And I think it was 1965 by then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=456.52,478.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Was there a job you had in mind that you wanted to use chemistry for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=478.51,483.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=483.57,483.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you tell us a little about coming out at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=485.56,488.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, what do you want to know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=489.65,492.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, how did you know that you were lesbian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=492.97,496.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, okay. I went to art school by then, and I went back to undergraduate school in St. Louis. I forgot to write this down as a school that I went to, but Webster College. It's now Webster University in St. Louis. And I went to art school there and had a very close group of three or four friends, three other friends basically, that I painted with and we hung out together all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=496.4,527.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so actually, years later, one of those friends and I came out together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=528.0,534.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: So you came out in St. Louis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=535.08,539.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: No. It was, I don't know, we had a long distance relationship for a while. And it was brief. Because of being long distance it wouldn't survive. But no, she lived in St. Louis and I lived— I think I was living in South Carolina by then. But anyway, I want to get to—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=539.28,569.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oregon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=569.66,570.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Get to Oregon. I want to get to the ‘70s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=570.19,573.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So you came to Oregon and your friends were any of them living in Eugene? When you were visiting your friends in Oregon, were any of them in Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=574.53,581.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: No, they lived up in Corvallis. I when I first came into Oregon, I stayed with them in Corvallis. And that was in November of ‘76.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=581.7,591.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, but I knew there was a lesbian community in Eugene so I would come down to Eugene. I'd go to the Riv Room, the Riviera Room— the gay bar, and visit with my friends. And I had a girlfriend by then down here. And, so then in February I moved to Eugene of ‘77. That's when I actually came to Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=593.15,621.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And where were you living when you came here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=621.76,623.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Let's see, I shared a duplex with Kate. And we weren't lovers but we were friends and we got along great and she was looking for a roommate and so we had one half of a duplex and it's been demolished now but it was over near the old library in Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=625.11,646.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so then, in 1978, she and I decided we should look for a house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=646.34,653.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we did that. We found the house that I still live in now. And I bought with her that house in 1978, April I think. And then it took me a couple of years to find Lina. She was known as Gypsy then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=653.71,671.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she—Kate moved out eventually and Lina moved in in ‘78 or ‘79.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=672.53,678.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And you've been together how long now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=679.01,682.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Forty-plus years. We just had our fortieth anniversary of being together this year. And it's the same little house that we live in. It's great. I could go on and on about our little cute little house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=682.39,697.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why is it so great, the house?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=697.48,699.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, we just remodeled it twice. It's one of those little Craftsman bungalow houses was built in 1923. It has all this great the window trim with the back band and all that and classic style. And we just love it, that's what attracted me to the house in the first place. And we've remodeled it twice and kept that same style and had— when we made changes, we kept the trim style and in the kitchen we remodeled the kitchen we kept the old like a 19— upgraded, though, and improved but the style of that era. And it's just gives us so much pleasure that we've been able to accomplish that and it looks so cute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=699.23,750.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: I'm curious about the economics of purchasing a house. Was housing affordable at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=750.07,759.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, I had this job at Starflower, so I had gainful employment. And I bought the house for $30,800 in 1978. And so, Kate and I did have difficulty getting a loan together. Because we weren't married, we weren't a heterosexual— this is my take on it; the bank might say something else. And she didn't really have a steady employment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=760.01,790.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She had different jobs and I don't know if she was self-employed as a window washer by then. But anyway, it was difficult. So we were turned down the first time around and then, excuse me, I reapplied for the loan by myself with my— just my information and I was able to get the loan for the house. But everything's relative, back then that was, I wouldn't say it was cheap, and it wasn't a struggle to pay, but it was average probably for that kind of house. The house was originally about 900 square feet. It was one of those little boxes, two bedroom one bath houses and now it's about 1,450 or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=790.74,842.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It was hard for women to get credit and those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=842.78,845.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Pardon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=845.28,845.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It was difficult for women to get credit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=845.36,847.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=847.52,847.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Tell us about Starflower. What you did there, what it was like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=850.27,854.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Okay, well, I was riding by Starflower one day on my bicycle. This was when it was on Lawrence Street there. Near the REI complex, which was at that time was the planing mill, Eugene Planing Mill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=854.33,870.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so anyways, I was riding by on my bicycle, and these women said, \"Hey, we need some help you want to work?\" And I said, \"Sure.\" I got off my bicycle and did some temporary work for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=871.11,886.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was just hired on as a temp and then I did that pretty regularly for a while and then they wanted to hire, do some hiring. Then I applied to actually become part of the collective and I was hired as a purchasing agent. And Shoshana was a member of the collective then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=886.45,907.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was a purchasing agent. Barbara Bones was another purchasing agent. And I think Jessie and I were hired at the same time. 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You got to know what was in there and how that went.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=993.36,1000.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that was the hub of packing up food that people had ordered, and loading the trucks up and doing inventory and I can't remember how many people were in the collective then. I'd say maybe twenty, maybe more, I'm not sure. But, I was a bean and flour purchaser, and pasta. I got to visit all these like bean fields and growers, and rice was another one. And the pasta manufacturer in San Francisco and learn about the food. It was fascinating really and Starflower was like at the forefront of the organic food movement back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1001.21,1049.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were just— I remember we were just coming up with guidelines of what was organic, and Oregon didn't have that much going on about organic. But California did and so we sort of followed the California guidelines of what was organic. And we had to have our growers go through a plan to eliminate chemicals from their property. From their farmlands for quite a while before they were granted the certificate of being considered an organic grower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1050.14,1087.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did your chemistry background help you at all in this job?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1087.92,1090.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: No. No. It helps me read the labels on the things in the store. But a lot of times, you know, those aren't real chemical names. They're made-up names like all the drug names are just— they're not real chemical names. But I don't know if it's ever helped me anyway, I— probably not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1090.72,1112.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So you got to travel to California and where were the bean fields and the rice fields?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1112.79,1121.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, the fields that I bought from were in Idaho, Posey Family Farm. And we went over there and visited with them. There were several of us that went on different road trips to have such fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1121.3,1134.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Besides learning about the food, the whole experience was amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1135.21,1139.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did, excuse me, did Starflower have a fleet of cars to use for that kind of travel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1141.29,1146.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Let's see. Not cars. No, they did own trucks. We have the trucks but the cars I'm not sure I think we just used someone's car and maybe we rented a car. I don't remember about where the cars came from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1146.26,1161.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The bean fields were in Idaho. The wheat fields were in Utah, Wheatland. The rice fields were in Northern California and Lundberg Family Farms was the grower that we bought from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1163.58,1178.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're still around, of course. And pasta was manufactured in San Francisco. I can't remember the name of the pasta manufacturer but they're still in business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1178.23,1190.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How was it for the lesbians from Starflower to talk with the farmers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1190.49,1195.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: They were great. I mean, we were buying their products. But no, I think they were great. They were very— as they seemed very open minded. Even in Utah, the guy we bought wheat from was a Mormon and his family— we stayed with— I don't think we stayed with his family, we had dinner with him and all, but he was fine, and he would come up to the warehouse and we had visits from these folks. As well as going to their place, they would come, come up and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1195.53,1227.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: I wonder what they thought of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1227.91,1230.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, they seemed quite open to us as people. And so it seemed like it went along okay. I can't really say I had a conversation with any of them about, what do you think of us lesbians? I can't really answer what they thought about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1230.16,1252.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Now I have a question about where you got the product. So you had to go outside of Oregon because, why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1252.8,1260.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, I guess I don't know, there wasn't a large supply of beans being grown in Oregon. There was wheat and we did buy some wheat from Oregon growers. And pasta, I don't think there was a pasta manufacturer. I mean, we had to go where these things were located where we want to buy. In fact, I bought soy beans from somebody over in, say, Arkansas or somewhere like that. Lot of phone work and I never did visit that farm. Just too far away. But one fellow I bought popcorn from was in the Midwest where they grow good corn. He decided since he was selling us so much popcorn, he would move to Oregon and grow popcorn. That was a big disaster. Because popcorn, you have to have a certain moisture content, has to be harvested a certain time. The rain out here is too unpredictable, too wet or it's too dry or so he really— I think he's a financial advisor now. Anyway, he was nice fella. But it didn't work out to grow certain things in Oregon, so we had to buy them from elsewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1260.86,1343.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But after a while, I was drawn to the trucking team and I thought, well, I should— I’ve always wanted to drive trucks. So, I became a member of the trucking team. I don't think the purchasing team really wanted that to happen. But they— in Starflower, you could do whatever you wanted to do. And we had people who wanted to work in the warehouse who were really small and not very muscular and you need muscle to work in the warehouse. But they wanted to work in the warehouse so they worked in the warehouse. They agreed that I would go to the trucking team and I did drive the vans. The big vans were just a natural for me to pick up how to drive them. And then the semis, we had a twenty-seven- foot trailer on one of the rigs and then we had the forty-foot trailer on the other rigs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1343.29,1410.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I never got very good at driving the forty-foot trailer. I was not— would have taken a lot more. But I drove the twenty-seven foot trailer sometimes and I was not really very good at it. Because I didn't stay there long enough. The meetings got to me. After three years I just couldn't stand going to any more meetings. We had meetings all the time and they just seemed— the thing was, all the decisions about everything were made by consensus. That means everybody had to agree. And this is an excruciating process. And some of the decisions— finally, they realize that some of these decisions should be made in a smaller, smaller group. That did start to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1410.73,1462.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But anyway, I was also burned out. Lina and I were drawn to the coast. I left Starflower in August of 1980. And we moved out to the coast and we lived up and down the coast for about four years and then we moved back in 1984. In October, we moved back to Eugene, and back into our little house, which we had been renting out while we were gone. And I guess that our little house had become like a lesbian hotel while we were gone. We came back and the neighbors were like, \"Oh, we're so glad to see you welcome back.\" But the house was intact, the plumbing was fine, and I guess there were like lots of somebody had parked an RV in our driveway and lived in that, plugged into the house current for six months or something. We found all this out when we came back. I mean, we were like hands-off landladies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1462.96,1525.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that was nice to move back, though. The other thing about Starflower was it was like big in the drug days. There was a lot of drug use. I never was one to use drugs other than alcohol. And so I was really not part of the drug scene or drug— not that I was ostracized or anything but I just wasn't, I didn't like that, I didn't like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1530.17,1560.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you describe what the drug scene was like in the lesbian community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1560.82,1564.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, you probably get somebody who was in it, to really describe it. But from the outside looking in— I'm a really responsible person. And I like being in control of things and that's the thing about drugs and the chemistry. I didn't want to do that to my body because, the body is all organic matter. But I felt like people made bad decisions, they fooled around, they didn't— They did their jobs and they worked but it wasn't as, I'm looking for a word but I don't know, it wasn't as pleasant or as like efficient business like, I guess as far as I was concerned. But I don't think that really was a detriment to the business. In the long run, I think—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1564.93,1628.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did people ever not show up in the morning or do things wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1628.55,1632.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: They would show up. I don't remember anybody doing anything wrong, really. But so it just was a personal judgment I guess on my part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1632.87,1643.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Would you go to the Riv Room those days?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1644.58,1649.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, yeah, yeah. But one other thing let me go back to Starflower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1650.04,1653.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the things that was so satisfying about Starflower was delivering all this great food, high quality food to all these locations. And the trucks went to— they went all around they went to Boise, Idaho, they went to San Francisco and they went to John Day, they went all over Oregon, they went to up the gorge and across to between John Day and Boise. We just went everywhere up and down the coast, there were little buying clubs or co-ops that we delivered food to. And people were always so happy to see us and we love seeing them and they loved our food and the food was very good quality. And at that point, we could take a draw of any kind of food in the warehouse that we needed or wanted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1653.51,1705.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They would put things on draw, like a box of pasta or wheel of Jarlsberg cheese, or something. A bag of flour and you could just go get what you needed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1705.59,1717.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Was there any limit on how much you could take?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1718.08,1720.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I don't remember there being a limit on those. The cheese was kind of rationed out it wasn't— you couldn't just go into the cheese cooler and get what you wanted. The cheese buyer had to put something on draw and that was because of the inventory and if there was a lot of something, then she knew that she wasn't going to run out for the customers then that would go on draw. That's the only thing I remember being limited at all, was the cheese. And cheese was pretty expensive. I think that was the most expensive I think product that we had. We had Nancy's Yogurt, we would go into the Creamery, which was located in Springfield that time, the Springfield Creamery. So— what did you ask me about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1721.18,1772.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Well, actually, now that you're talking about Starflower again, I'm wondering, do you recall what your hourly wage was when you were working there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1772.71,1781.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: No, but I think the monthly— everybody got paid the same wage. I think the amount I remember was $650 or something a month. But with all that free food, you know—and it was 1978 to ‘80.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1782.36,1802.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And everybody got paid the same regardless of the level of responsibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1803.22,1808.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Mm-hmm [affirmative] That was— Starflower purchased a second warehouse. The old warehouse was on Laurence Street there, were I said. And then in 19— I think it might have been 1980, ‘79 or ‘80, they purchased a warehouse over on McKinley in Eugene. And we had to redo parts of it. Like I remember Margaret was an electrician and she rebuilt the cooler, a big huge walk-in cooler. And she wired that whole cooler because she was an electrician and could do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1808.04,1844.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She got some folks to help her a little bit but, we did everything. In fact, speaking of trucks, no one was really— we finally hired a woman who had been to Diesel school, trained as a truck driver.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1844.28,1863.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nobody else had been, I mean, we were driving these huge rigs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1864.06,1867.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And weren't really— no one had been to truck driving school, except this one woman she had. She didn't stay long because she realized that she had learned certain ways to do things about the trucks and we were like— whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1868.12,1884.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that was— we just, we were reinventing our lives. Everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1886.75,1894.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lina and I were talking about this the other day and we just reinvented everything about how to be and how to work and what to do. And if you wanted to fix something, you just figured out how to fix it. I like fixing things still. So, when we moved into the new warehouse, the division of labor changed a little bit because certain committees were set up to manage certain parts of the move, because this was a big deal moving all this food and all these people and all and getting the warehouse remodeled and everything and to manage all of that. So I was put in charge of the physical move of the warehouse contents to the new warehouse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1894.46,1943.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I was over there checking on the warehouse and how it was going with the remodel and everything. Of course we had hired Crescent Construction to do the remodel. And Lina was part of Crescent Construction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1943.96,1956.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we had met each other a couple of times, a few times over the last two years and bumped into each other but we hadn't really gotten together as a couple yet. So, I knew her and I went over to the warehouse and she was working right there in the entryway with her dog Leafy Greens. And I walked in there and Leafy looked a lot like my old dog Tony that I had when I was a kid. And so I just passed by this beautiful woman who was working there. And I looked at Leafy and I said, \"Who is this?\" And Lina said, \"Well, this is Leafy Greens.\" And by that time, Leafy and I were just like this [gestures]. And so that really, I think that got me a lot of points with Lina at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=1957.2,2010.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other connection that she and I had was, we were in the same karate class. And we studied karate with Rena Klein. And she was also one of the head folks in Crescent Construction. But she was a black belt. She was about five feet tall. So was this pure muscle. She was an excellent martial arts teacher and martial artist. She was an architect. And she and Susan Baker I think were architects that started Crescent Construction. Anyhow, Lina and I were taking karate class together and that's when we finally started dating and becoming involved with each other. So, let's say the Starflower connection, the Leafy Greens connection, the Crescent Construction, the karate class, it all was like weaving together in my life about that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2013.42,2077.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Would you mind taking a moment just to give us a description of what a typical day might have been working at Starflower and then your personal activities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2079.15,2091.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Okay, yeah, I of course would get up in the morning go to work. I'd be there about 8:00 or 8:30. I'd drink a whole pot of coffee which I still do. Work all morning, be on the phone a lot. And that's when I just still, I can't stand answering the phone, I'll let it ring and I see who it is. But that really— it's being on the phone, you had to call people all the time, they were calling you, and. All that would be the morning, then we go to lunch, we'd have lunch at Gertrude’s Café. I mean, there was a whole, just a whole community of resources in Eugene at that time, it was really quite, quite amazing to be a lesbian or gay person in Eugene, at that time. So we'd go and there was Gertrude’s which was a collective for a while and then when that folded a few women purchased the business and it was at Wild Iris Café. And so we would have lunch there. It was on Lincoln Street between I don't remember, Tenth and Eleventh or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2091.79,2175.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so we’d go to lunch and an hour later, we'd go back to work and work till five, six o'clock. I was one of those people that would really didn't go home after eight hours. Some folks did, they had very strict working eight hours, and that's it. And they would get their work done and they would leave. And the rest of us were kind of resentful of that because we were still there working away and they would get up and leave. But it's work. It makes a lot more sense now. Then I'd go home, I'd have dinner, I'd cook dinner or go out to dinner. And then later in the evening, we might go over to the Riv Room, dance and drink beer and chit chat for a couple hours go home by like midnight. Or we’d go to karate class in the evening and then we'd maybe after karate class we'd go to the Riv Room or we— I remember eating breakfast at Hoots, which was an all-night diner and it was up somewhere near where the current federal courthouse is now, the big cannery thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2176.1,2256.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, and that would be like three in the morning would be breakfast. And I'm not sure why we were maybe— Oh, the Riv Room closed at two. Then we go eat breakfast at Hoots. And that was like huevos rancheros type— lots of salsa. Then we go home and sleep a little bit and go back to work. That was typical I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2258.86,2286.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you hanging out with basically the same people most days?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2288.82,2293.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, I guess so. We had a large circle of friends— people that you worked with, people that you did your martial arts with. Or your writing group or something, your book club. I didn't do writing and I didn't do a book club but I think those things existed somewhere along the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2294.05,2314.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What about softball?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2314.32,2315.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, yeah. I was a member of the Peralandra. That was a privately owned bookstore, a woman-owned bookstore and it was largely a bookstore about spiritual stuff. And she sponsored our softball team the Peralandra Pearl Divers. So yeah, I was a member of the Peralandra Pearl Divers. I was a second base one for a while, then I was a first base one for a while. And I wasn't really— I never hit a home run. But I got a lot of hits. And I wasn't a fast runner. I would be running around the bases and people would be yelling, “Rakar run, run!” I'd be, “I am running!” I was not a fast runner. We had a lot of fun there, too. And then after the games we would go to Tino’s. It was an Italian restaurant, up on the corner of Willamette and Fifteenth. And we would have pizza and beer and talk about the game and eventually go home and go to sleep or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2316.11,2389.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But one year our team did win the trophy. I got you some photographs of some of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2390.21,2395.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But yeah, we had a sort of a base number of team members that were there every year and then the coach was consistent. T Ride was our coach. But new people came and went off and on from time to time. I think I started playing softball when I was forty-two years old. And I played for about ten years and then I quit. And my hero now is Diane because she is still playing softball. And she's, I don't know how old Diane is, but she's way up here. She's not as old as I am. But anyway, it's pretty, pretty admirable and amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2397.46,2441.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think she plays on a coed team now. So yeah, that was a really big part of our lives too, was softball. And the practices on Saturday morning and that was hard getting up and getting to practice and early Saturday morning, but we managed to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2441.86,2460.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you think back to any conflicts that might have arisen in the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2460.64,2469.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, let's see. Nothing really comes to mind right now. I know there were people that didn't get along. And there were some fights in the warehouse sometimes. But I really can't think of anything that affected me or that I knew about that was a big conflict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2471.47,2500.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Was it unusual that you and Lina were a couple so long?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2500.29,2507.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, over time, it became more and more unusual. We used to— at one point, we had what was a Happy Lesbian Couples group. And it was like five or six couples that saw a couple who were counselors, got together and people wanted. And then nobody in that group is still together except me and Lina now. And that happened pretty quick. I don't know, you get some happy lesbians together and they'll break up. So now it's pretty unusual. I know there are some who've been together very long time. But we're probably— I don't know if there're folks that I know of that have been together as long as we have. 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Oh, yeah non-monogamy, forgot about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2564.58,2567.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And then you were in a couple. So I'm just wondering how that—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2568.51,2572.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well. Yes. In fact, it was a, wouldn't say a conflict but an issue between me and Lina. Because I wanted to be in a couple, and I wanted to be with Lina. And I didn't want to be single. And early on, there was a big movement, I think particularly among southern Oregon women who lived on the land in southern Oregon to be single and not get their needs met, what they said, get all their needs met by one other person. Well, you can't really do that anyway. But you can get some of your needs met by one other person. But anyway, it took me about ten years of us being together and being monogamous for what I say, for me to convince her that she wanted to be in this relationship and she would. She agreed to be in this relationship and we sort of had a private impromptu commitment ceremony, I guess, back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2573.17,2643.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But yeah, I don't know if she talked about that in her interview, but she— it was an ideal I think that she— for her to not be in a couple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2645.3,2663.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think part of it was a lot of times couples act real exclusive, they talk to each other and not to other friends who are there or they can be real exclusive, I guess that is the word. And so, and that's hurtful to people who are not in a couple. I mean, if not everybody wants to be in a couple. If you don't want to be that's fine, but it's not— so I think she was aware of that and wary of that being that kind of behavior, so. But I think we've been aware of that enough to try to not do that. Besides, other people are mighty interesting. And it's fun to be with other people. So we— but yeah, I think the longer have been together the more unusual it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2664.96,2726.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when we moved to the coast in 1980, and we stayed over there for about four years. It's very hard to make a living on the coast, it's so seasonal. And our part of the coast was from Port Orford up to Newport. We lived in different places. And it's a struggle to find work and make a living. I had a really bad job in Port Orford, I worked the graveyard shift from 11:00PM to 7:00AM at the Circle K market, on 101 in this little wild fishing town down there. And it was dangerous. I should have never done it. My friends should have never let me do it. But anyway, it was a job. I did it for about seven months. I think the thing that really got to me was I was never able to learn how to sleep in the daytime. I was real sleep deprived and— But it was the only store open on the coast on the south coast between Coos Bay and Brookings. And, I would have teenage boys just begging me to please sit a six pack out in the alley behind the cooler, please. Or, somebody would come in and buy them beer and so it was like— and people shoplifted and it was crazy. And I would work there by myself, there was not another— because the owners want to save money. They didn’t want two people there all night. That was a job that I had when we lived on the coast. And then as we moved up the coast, we acquired a sign shop when we moved to Newport and learned how to make signs. We didn't know how. And that lasted about a year. But in the wintertime, boom, your income really falls off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2729.41,2848.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Were you visible as lesbians on the coast?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2848.9,2851.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yeah, I don't think we ever— well, in Port Orford, we kind of tried to keep a low profile, but we never hid it from anyone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2852.16,2863.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you find a community there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2863.95,2865.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: We had some friends who lived up the road in Langlois. And so there were five or six lesbians in that area. But we got this wild and this is crazy too, of having a lesbian camp out at our place. We lived in this beautiful place right up above the port in Port Orford.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2865.14,2890.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we had— it was a fairly secluded trees all around area but— so we had a camp out and people were— lesbians came from San Francisco and all around, brought the dogs, and camped out on our land, in this little tiny town. So I'm sure you know, shopped in town and it was— we were never in the closet. No, I've never been in the closet. Back to Newport, we had a softball team there. Our little sign shop sponsored a softball team. So there was a larger group of friends there. But mostly we really didn't get to know each other. I've had found out since we moved away from there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2890.73,2940.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We just partied, we'd go to somebody's house and roll up the rug and dance to Michael Jackson had just come out with that big album. Yeah big album of his and these folks were on our softball team and so that went on till we left there in ‘84 and moved back to Eugene. And then years and years later, we bumped into one of those Newport friends at a restaurant in Seal Rock. And we've just become the best friends. She's one of our best friends now. She lives in Portland. And we found out how much we have in common. We like to watch birds, we love to read. All this stuff that we didn't know back then because we were too busy partying. But I mentioned that because the same kind of lifestyle went on over there that I had known in Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=2941.69,3004.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I wrote down a whole bunch of different notes here. So I mentioned— oh, Women's Press was one of the first things when I first came to town. I was real into photography. And I wanted— I went to Jackrabbit Press and looked up different ways to make a living. But I wanted a job I didn't— but turns out there was opportunity for a lot of volunteer work. I took some photographs for Women's Press. And that way I met Mary Anne and I met Laurie, who has since died. Big loss to all of us. But I took some photographs for the Women's Press. And they were a little collective of two, I guess, that were doing the Women's Press publication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3005.35,3061.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And the— excuse me the— was it a newspaper?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3061.08,3065.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I don't think it was a newspaper. I think it was just a publication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3067.85,3072.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not even sure how often it came out. But it was about women's news all around the state. I remember going down to southern Oregon, with Mary Anne one time to take some pictures of some meeting. There was meetings that was going on about some issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3072.27,3090.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they would write that up and put that in their publication to let folks know what was going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3090.8,3097.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And the publication was actually titled, Women's Press?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3098.53,3103.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3103.58,3104.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay. Do you remember the name of the press that printed it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3104.53,3108.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I don't, but it may have been printed by Jackrabbit Press. Because that was in the same building. It was in the Growers Market building down here near the train station on a second floor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3110.29,3128.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Women's Press had a little office and Jackrabbit press had their press there. But I don't know who printed it actually. Then there was a Country VW, which was the garage and the mechanics. Christine and all of her crew that we all took our cars to, to get fixed. There were restaurants, there was presses, printers, there was construction. There was the Country VW, the mechanics. It could all be done by your friends. It was a very just quite amazing time to have all of that. There was also a wheelchair basketball team.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3128.54,3179.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda might talk more about that because she was part of the coaching staff on that. But yeah, and some— that was fun to watch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3182.03,3190.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was the Full Moon Rising was a tree planting crew women, all women. And tree planting was a big way to make lots of jobs available in tree planting back in those days. The Hoedads. But Full Moon Rising was a women's crew. There was the Wallflower Dance group that made fantastic dance presentations. They were very talented folks. There was Mother Kali’s bookstore. Which was also a collective, all kinds of books there. I think their bookstore and Peralandra had some crossover, the same types of books. And there didn't seem to be a big rivalry or any issues about that kind of competition. 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And I must say that Elana Dykewomon is the best writer that I ever knew of in those days. And she's still a writer. She lives down in San Francisco and a lot of her books and poetry have a lot of Jewish history and content and topics. And so I'd read her books a lot. They were wonderful. But no, I don't remember what I was doing. I read a lot now, but I wasn't reading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3259.1,3313.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess I wasn't reading that much back then. Pardon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3313.7,3316.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You were too busy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3316.98,3317.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yeah, too busy. But let's see what else is on my list here. Let me find out. Yes, there was the Kung Fu martial arts group. And there were self defense classes. And over time after— when we came back from living on the coast in 1984, we did a number of jobs, both of us. And we finally went into business together as graphic designers. And one of the projects that we had was Bridges magazine that we designed and laid out all the magazines for Clare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3317.62,3369.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe what Bridges was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3369.41,3371.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh yeah, it was a journal. Let me see if I can say what their subtitle was A Journal for Jewish Lesbians and Our Friends or something like that. But it was poetry, it was art, it was stories, it was history, it was essays. It was really quite a wonderful publication. I think it's still going but Clare, when she moved away she took Bridges with her. But it was really fun working with her even though neither Lina and I were Jewish, but we— and I pointed that out to her and she said, \"Well, I don't care\" –to Clare when she came to us to do this. But that's one of the most fun and creative projects to produce this magazine with her. That was probably one of the most lesbian related pieces of work that we did as graphic designers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3371.23,3437.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We designed a lot of little posters and postcards and little publicity materials and other things for other lesbians and friends of ours. Or some of them actually had other kinds of jobs where they were a marketing person for that company and they would hire us to do things for their company. So we— it brought us into contact with a lot of other people too. A lot of other not lesbians, non-lesbians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3437.84,3474.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: I don't know if we're rushing too far ahead. But I'm wondering about the anti-gay measures that were sponsored by the Oregon Citizens Alliance and your involvement with those, that political time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3474.54,3489.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, yeah, over and over, over and over. I think the first time of course in 1978. I think was May of 1978. I don't know if it was 51.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3489.99,3498.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there was that. And actually, I think that's where I met Julie, in a group that was working against that measure. And then there was No on 9. And then there was another one after that 2007 or something I don't remember what that one was. But there were several that kept popping up to— not take our rights away, but not give us the rights that we deserve to have. And the OCA was just— every time they had an opportunity to bring a measure to the vote they would. So we had to— a lot of our energy was spent fighting these measures. And the amount of money that went into these campaigns could have been spent— it's like nowadays, so much political money could be spent making the world better or feeding people or eliminating hunger in Lane County. It could be right here, it's just heartbreaking, but you have to keep fighting and you have to do what you can to try to make the world a better place, a more open place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3500.76,3580.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we were involved in, in those. We would phone bank, we would mail postcards, we would do whatever people do to try to get the vote out and we would actually I think we were allowed to go to the polling places and stand a certain distance away and hold signs up and stuff. We did that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3581.57,3610.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you make those signs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3610.42,3611.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, yeah. And that was kind of scary, actually. Because people would get really, they would yell things at you for your point of view. And, I think that's not allowed anymore. I don't think you can do that anymore. So, those were conflicts with other people outside of our way of thinking, I guess. Let's see what else I had written down. That was the last thing I had here actually. And, of course, in our lives, we went through the same things that everybody goes through. There were illnesses, there was breast cancer. People survived, people died. Lina got breast cancer in 1989, I believe. And thank goodness, she's one of the survivors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3612.11,3673.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There were people who got other kinds of illnesses and diseases.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3674.83,3682.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On another note, they were all of our animals that we had. They had been a big part of our lives all these years. We've had at least seven or eight or nine different dogs over the forty years and usually two at a time, but then now we have one. Cats, I think I counted we had had seventeen cats from time to time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3683.34,3708.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's always, you go through their whole lives with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3709.81,3716.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there's joy and grief involved in all of that, being a responsible pet owner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3716.84,3722.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you think about the medical care in Eugene? Were you out as lesbians with your doctors? How was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3725.06,3733.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, actually, I had a lesbian doctor for a while. And then she retired. But yeah, we've had good experiences. I think the only kind of weird experiences that we had was when Lina had breast cancer and was going into have a lumpectomy. There was a $500 deductible on our health insurance. And before they would do the surgery, they wanted us to pay that. And I don't know where that came from. I don't think that was easily the protocol for how they did patients. But anyway, we came up with it. We paid them. And I wasn't allowed to stay in the room with her all night. I slept down in the waiting room on the couch, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3734.16,3790.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Had you been her husband, do you think you could have stayed in the room?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3790.7,3793.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I thought so. I think so. I know I don't know for sure. But I always felt like that I could have but wasn't allowed to. But for the most part, no, her surgeon, the surgical team, our personal doctors, our dentists. All the people that we've dealt with. I think that— I don't know whether it's— where that comes from. Maybe it comes from being out, and being okay with it, and being confident. Maybe it comes from being educated, and able to communicate. Maybe it comes from having such great personalities that people like you. It comes from being white, I think. I know other people have a lot of other experiences. But I think, we've been lucky, maybe fortunate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3793.84,3855.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Than the other lesbians who've been visible. So you're not the only ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3855.1,3859.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Yeah. So, yeah, I believe so. We have had good experiences in the medical community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3859.73,3868.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: When you think back on the vibrancy of the lesbian community in the early days, have you thought about why there aren't all these different organizations that are lesbian owned anymore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3869.02,3887.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, well, yeah. I mean, we notice the lack of community now I guess. And I don't know if it's a matter of aging or a matter of— a lot of our really good friends from those days have moved away for different reasons. Or they stay away, down in Arizona, come back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3887.37,3907.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, a lot of folks are still here. Some people had babies. And so that creates another whole connection point. We never wanted to do that and so we sort of drifted out of that. Out of those folks' lives. But it's different now for sure. I think assimilation, maybe having babies is part of that. And in a way it's a good thing to have lesbians and gay people assimilated into the culture as a whole. But it does— you do remember what it was like back then, and it's not like that now. It's very different. All the different reasons I mean, things change, people's interests change, they move away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3907.22,3966.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was talking to my neighbor down the street the other night and told her that we were doing this project with you all. And she said, \"Oh, I think that's great. So many young people were so interested in this now.\" And I said, \"Oh, really? You think so?\" She said, \"Yes.\" She was saying she really has been heartened by the young people that she knows in the twenties and thirties. And I think she has her children. Some of them are in their twenties and thirties. And maybe all of them. And I said, \"Well, that's really good to hear because I think that there was a gap there.\" And I don't know how those folks are now but they just weren't interested in us. I mean, it used to be you’d walk down the street, you would see someone and you would know if they were a lesbian or not, and you would acknowledge that. And that hasn't happened in a long time with young people. Maybe I can't always tell if someone's a lesbian or not. But sometimes you certainly can, but there's no recognition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=3967.7,4035.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm glad that there is a group that's— I'm glad that there are people who are going to be interested in this. I think it's interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4035.63,4047.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would you tell a young person who's watching this on the wisdom of your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4049.39,4053.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, you're right. Boy, I don't know. I guess I'd want to thank them for being interested in looking at this material. And whatever they want to learn from it, I can't imagine. It's just history, but it's an important part of history and it wouldn't be known maybe unless you knew someone who had lived through it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4053.9,4082.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And looking back, what would you say was your greatest joy of having lived here during those times?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4082.96,4093.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh. Well, my friends, Lina, our critters. The landscape. Oregon is just so beautiful and we still haven't been everywhere, yet. And so just being happy to have a beautiful place to live in. It’s so— you have the coast and all the different weather there, you have the mountains and all that, you have eastern Oregon, which is largely desert in some areas. We watch birds and so and we have a group of friends that we watch birds with and we've been going over to Malheur Wildlife Refuge every year. At least once a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4094.26,4138.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes twice, sometimes three times, for over thirty years. It's like another heart place to go to. So that's been a great joy. Having Lina is my greatest joy. And our animals and having that shared— that you of course— you could say well, it would be hard being with somebody who didn't love animals. Well, I probably wouldn't be with somebody who didn't love animals. That's been a big part of my joy. And being able to be out feeling like I can be brave and be out and let people know who I am. And be happy. I could go on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4138.22,4192.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you and Lina get married officially?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4192.3,4195.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: We did. We actually got married twice. The first time was when the Multnomah County City Council up in Portland decided to allow gay people to get married. So, we knew they were considering it, I think. But anyway, Lina called me up at work one day and said, \"Come on, we gotta go get married.\" And I left. I said, \"I got to go.\" Laid my phone down and we went running up to Portland and got married.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4196.31,4226.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was that like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4227.51,4228.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, it's great fun. We were one of the couples that had been together— we'd been together twenty-seven years by then, I remember. And they wanted, \"Who's the oldest couple?\" And so I don't know they might have taken a picture or something. But anyway, we got married, we gave them a check for $60 for a license fee. Which it turns out weeks later, the wheels turn around and they never cashed those checks. They sent them back. We took the money and gave it to Basic Rights Oregon. Lina at that point was fond of saying, \"Well, we've been together forty years, but the marriage didn't last.\" So then, yeah, we recently, when we were allowed to get married again, we got married on May 28 of 2014.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4228.5,4282.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We've been married for four years now. That's nice. I think did observe, I did kind of feel like it made a difference in how I felt to be able to be married and be a legally recognized couple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4284.37,4304.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And after all this time, it was pretty gratifying. It was a long time coming. And but better late than never, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4305.42,4315.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did it make you feel? What was different?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4315.29,4317.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: I don't know. Just made me feel more settled or more happy or something it made me feel more legitimate I guess. I don't know exactly a feeling came over me that I recognized and observed and made a note in my mind about that. Something's different. But I don't know what other people would say. That'd be interesting to find out. Maybe it will be like having a baby. If you really wanted that kind of fulfillment in your life or something, maybe I don't know what an analogy would be, something. So, see if I can say anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4317.58,4361.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Anything we haven't asked you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4363.39,4366.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, I don't know. I think we've covered a lot of territory. But we are getting older. So I'm seventy-eight now and I know one of my friends from Starflower who has Alzheimer's. Somebody's had a stroke. Different people, like I say have died and have MS or other things that have gone into remission, happily. And so it's really just life keeps going on right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4367.46,4416.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would be your ideal scenario for the lesbians in Eugene who are aging?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4416.55,4422.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: My ideal scenario? Oh, I don't know they just live in peace and there might be joy on the political scene again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4422.77,4434.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Had you in Lina considered going into a retirement community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4436.2,4440.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, we talk about it every now and then. But there is not one that would feel comfortable to us, to me, especially. She might be more comfortable and under certain circumstances. But I'm so ornery and I'm very particular and I really can't imagine living within that situation. We have, experience and ideas in our mind about what that might be like because of our parents and the assisted living communities that they were a part of. And my thoughts are just so negative about— that’s horrible. They were, particularly her parents were really happy. I think they moved into this assisted living community place when they were like in their seventies, like seventy-two or something. And they were happy there, they had golfing friends, it was perfect. Well, for lesbians and gay people, I don't think that— there may be some options available or starting to happen like in Portland or San Francisco or those locations. But we— I just can't imagine it for myself, especially.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4440.63,4526.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why do you think it would be an advantage to have it be for lesbian or gay people, as opposed to just regular assisted?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4526.37,4534.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, I don't know. You just want people that you have more in common with to live with. This is an intimate situation. When we remodeled our house, we kept it all on one floor. We didn't build up or anything with the idea that we would want to stay in our house as long as we could. We have separate entrances. When we had our office when we were doing graphic design, we made this happen. There’re two bathrooms. And so we've sort of remodeled our house with the idea that maybe someone could live in this part of the house and take care of us. But who would that be? I don't know. Got to be the right person. So, the older you get, the more— if I am assuming that my mind would continue to operate in a good way. And I would be aware of things. I know that doesn't happen to everybody and it may not happen to me. But the intimacy of living with somebody is— I just would be very particular about who that person would be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4534.86,4613.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And would you want a caretaker to be gay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4613.76,4616.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Well, not necessarily. Not necessarily.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4619.93,4622.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It's just interesting to think about different options.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4622.93,4630.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Has to be a good cook. As good as me and Lina.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4630.62,4635.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Well, thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4635.53,4635.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Thanks so much. It was really nice—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604#t=4635.58,4643.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56404/file/130604/transcript/92622/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West: Oh, thank you. 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