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She lived in Seattle in the early 1970s where there were feminist presses. When she moved to Eugene she founded Mother Kali's Books in 1976 with Marilyn Picariello, Ellen Greenlaw, and Barbara Bryant, with help from S. Reddick. This feminist bookstore became a fixture in Eugene for 33 years and a gathering place for the lesbian/queer community. She and Marilyn describe the late seventies in Eugene as a time marked by a flowering of a community of women artists, dancers, poets, musicians, photographers, publishers, and small business owners who supported and influenced each other. Like Mother Kali's, many community organizations and businesses were operated as collectives and cooperatives. Devi returned to Seattle in 1984, where she co-founded two collective bookstores, It's About Time, and Red and Black Books. She has lived with her husband since 1993 and discusses bisexuality and the experience and consequences of being in a heterosexual relationship after being with women and the mixed responses of friends, gay and straight.\n\nKey terms: Amazon Kung Fu; Drug abuse; Feminist bookstores; Wallflower Order Dance Collective.\n\nMarilyn: Marilyn was born in 1951 into an Italian-American family in Brooklyn. Her family was working class, with the extended family all in one apartment complex. She talks about her childhood memories. Marilyn went to parochial schools. She remembers her family as matriarchal and loving. All of Marilyn's boyfriends in high school were gay. Her family expected her to get married and have children. At age seventeen, she knew she was a lesbian and family life started to seem oppressive. Marilyn came to Eugene in the early 1970s to go to graduate school at UO, where she studied Special Education. The lesbian community was a big distraction for her. She discusses the character of the lesbian community, and the various social and cultural activities available. Many lesbians lived in the Whiteaker and River Road areas. Marilyn met Kathryn \"Devi\" Hunt and together they started Mother Kali's Books. The seed money for the bookstore was Ellen Greenlaw's inheritance of $800. Marilyn and Devi discuss the bookstore. They describe the bookstore, which was located at 11th Avenue and Lawrence Street. Marilyn also did warehouse work at Starflower Natural Foods \u0026amp; Botanicals in 1979. That same year, Marilyn and Devi left Mother Kali's. In 1980, Marilyn went down to San Francisco where she worked for over ten years with AIDS nonprofits. When she returned to Eugene, she and her partner Linda started Eugene Insight Meditation Community. This involved a Twelve-Step Program and the Dharma. Marilyn and Devi end their interview by discussing aging in the community. \n\nKey terms: American Indian Movement; Community Center for the Performing Arts (WOW Hall); Feminist bookstores; Hoedads, Inc.; Lesbian community -- Oregon; Marriage equality; Mother Kali's Books; Non-monogamy; Riviera Room; Special education; United States. Federal Bureau of Investigation."]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Marilyn Picariello (Interviewee)","Kathryn Hunt (Interviewee)","Judith L. 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This is an oral history interview with Kathryn Hunt and Marilyn Picariello on August 30, 2018, taking place in the University of Oregon library's recording studio in the Center for Media and Educational Technologies. The interviewers are Linda Long, Curator of Manuscripts in the UO libraries’ Special Collections and University Archives, and Professor Judith Raiskin of the UO Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=10.72,46.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kathryn and Marilyn, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project, and that you give your permission for the university to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=47.47,58.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=59.27,60.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=60.12,60.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=60.89,61.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=61.58,62.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Let's just start out with a basic question for each of you. Kathryn, why don't we just start with you because you're on my left here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=62.16,68.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Please tell us where you were born, where you grew up, and something about your early background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=69.86,73.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Okay, well I'm going to start somewhere else actually. The thing is, just your title alone was not imaginable when we were here in the ‘70s, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=74.33,86.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Uh-huh [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=86.9,87.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah. That there would be somebody who had a position or a chair, whatever you have, that would be gender— what is it, women's studies and sexuality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=87.36,98.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=98.84,99.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=99.99,100.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=100.49,100.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It was Women's Studies originally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=100.84,102.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, right. That was kind of happening in the ‘70s in universities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=102.94,106.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it's amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=106.98,108.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, Anchorage, Alaska, and I grew up there for a while, but then in South Seattle before—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=108.56,118.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When were you born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=118.18,118.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Nineteen fifty. Yeah, long before any money arrived in Seattle. It was just a provincial backwater then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=119.26,130.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was your family like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=130.41,131.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: What was my family like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=132.97,136.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=136.66,136.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Let's see. Both my parents were raised in rural America, my father in eastern Wyoming on a cattle ranch. My grandparents homesteaded forty miles south of where Custer met his fate. And my mother in southwest Washington State, rural, a small town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=136.78,158.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They had four children. My parents divorced when I was around ten. I was raised by a single mother, and she was ahead of the curve in some ways on that. I think I learned a lot about where women stood in society, broadly speaking, from listening to her and her girlfriend sit around the kitchen table. I think that was my real education. She was a feminist long before I was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=161.25,192.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was your family doing up in Anchorage in 1950?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=193.55,197.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: My parents had met in L.A. during the war, and my father after the war got a job in the burgeoning airline industry. He was an avionics engineer. My grandmother told him, \"The ranch will starve you out,\" and he went to school and became an engineer. He got a job with a small bush plane outfit up there that eventually became a carrier between Alaska and the lower forty-eight. My mom went along. She was pregnant at the time with my sister, Trina. I came along a bit later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=197.7,234.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay. Marilyn, how about you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=236.17,238.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Quite different. I was born in 1951 to an Italian American family in Brooklyn, New York. We lived very extendedly. We lived in a four apartment building in Bensonhurst. Three of the apartments were occupied by family members. My mother is the oldest of five, and since it was her parent's home, I grew up around a lot of— I have two aunts that were there. The two uncles did not live there. I didn't grow up living with them. But my grandparents were there, my aunts were there, then eventually their families were there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=238.1,279.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very working class. My parents were born in this country, my grandparents not. They immigrated here. What was the other question? What else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=279.7,291.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Just something about your background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=291.6,293.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Just really very loving. Pretty much loving, but they were very strict rules, very patriarchal. But as Devi talked about sitting around the table — my mother and my aunts were stay-at-home moms, so around 3:00, they would have coffee and danishes or coffee and coffee cake, and sit around and talk about whatever, and laugh a lot. Those are my early childhood memories. Definitely growing up in a community versus just a small nuclear family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=295.64,327.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: I'm curious as to when you either knew that you were a lesbian or heard about lesbians. Or what maybe middle school, high school was like for you. Let's start with you first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=327.21,340.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, no, queer was a word we hurled at each other. It wasn't really until I was working as a waitress, which I did for quite a while, and on a graveyard shift that I saw the gay men come in from the bars at 1:00 and 2:00 in the morning when the bars would start to shut down. I saw men in drag come in. They weren't in full drag, but they had makeup on. When I'd bend over to take their orders and look in their faces, I saw men, gay men. That was a revelation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=340.71,378.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How old were you then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=379.02,380.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I was eighteen probably. But I suppose looking back, I had crushes on girls in school. My youngest and best friend through grade school, and I, we'd always kiss and hug. But I didn't really come out or have a woman lover until I was, I don't know how old I was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=382.13,410.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably twenty-two maybe. Yeah, something like that. And then I came to Oregon. Then I was part of a women's community in Seattle. I helped found two bookstores up there, a bookstore called It's About Time. It was a first women's bookstore in the Northwest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=411.95,430.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We just had a small storefront near the University of Washington, and we started to collect women's literature. We had to order Virginia Woolf's books from England, which we had to do when we had Mother Kali's as well. You can get her books. There are a lot of books we couldn't get. We were just—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=431.31,451.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: They were not printed in the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=452.84,454.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Right, right. Well, Harcourt printed Virginia Woolf, but I think they must have been out of print here. I was part of that bookstore, then a bookstore called Red and Black that existed in Seattle as essentially a lesbian collective. Except for George. We'll get to George later. Red and Black was commies, pinkos and queers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=454.29,487.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's how we described ourselves. It went for thirty years, and the collective was mostly lesbians, not only. And so when I came down here, I already had that, and a community of women, of women's lesbian community in Seattle before I came to Oregon. I met M here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=487.55,510.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can we go back for a sec?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=511.02,512.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=512.04,512.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was it about yourself, what kind of skills and experience did you bring to founding these bookstores?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=513.01,521.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Youth. Youth, really. It was like, “Let's put on a play!” kind of. I think we just felt a need ourselves. We wanted to read the books we wanted to read. They weren't available, they weren't taught. We had all at once, like a zeitgeist. We just stumbled onto the idea that women's voices weren't heard. Our voices weren't heard. The YWCA on the Ave functioned as a women's center. The woman who ran that lives in the small town I live in, Port Townsend, now, and we're still friends. The Women's Divorce Cooperative was there. The Women's Clinic was there. The Abortion Hotline was there. I worked for the abortion hotline. We helped girls from Montana, and Idaho, and Nevada, and whoever needed and wanted an abortion, couldn't get it in their own state, came to Washington State. We had a list of doctors who would perform them before Roe v. Wade. The Lesbian Resource Center was there, and consciousness raising groups. What we call consciousness raising groups were all there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=521.74,607.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was kind of out of that, an amorphous community of women attached to the university and/or not, coming together to form this bookstore collective. I don't think we even did any paperwork to establish the business. We just started collecting books. We carried John Stuart Mills. We carried some titles by men, but we were mostly interested in finding books by women, literature, and nonfiction. Also it was the time when women's presses were beginning, so there was just this great need to speak to each other about what was happening in our lives. There was a critical examination of the left that many of us had been part of, and the way we felt dismissed if not downright disdained by our leftist brothers, and not listened to certainly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=609.45,666.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What years were those?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=666.17,672.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I think It's About Time probably opened in '72, and Red and Black probably '73.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=673.0,681.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Wow, that's early.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=683.33,685.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, yeah it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=685.49,687.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How about you? What you knew about lesbianism, how you came to think about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=688.54,696.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Well, growing up in Brooklyn, being a big city kid, there was a lot going on, and there was a lot going on in the ‘60s. This great big revolution, people were moving away from their families. But to answer your question, I remember not lesbian, but my mother's hairdresser, Nicki, was totally flaming. Because of growing up extendedly, I've always this very early on love for women, because I grew up with my grandmother, and my mother, and my aunts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=696.23,730.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it felt like to be affectionate with women and taking that to another level was really easy. Except that I didn't call myself a lesbian, I called myself a bisexual. And when I got here, that was a really big no-no. There was no room for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=730.62,747.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Still is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=747.86,747.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: You had to either be lesbian or you were considered non lesbian or straight. There were a lot of rules and regulations. There were no gray areas at the time. I'm very happy that that has changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=747.98,761.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It's interesting that we both saw gay men first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=762.59,766.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, yeah. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=766.83,767.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That was the culture that was more visible, really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=767.43,771.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Way more visible. They were more voca, too. They were more comfortable in their skins. Early on, my boyfriends were all gay or bisexual. Growing up, that happened a lot. Eventually I come out here to go to graduate school and get enormously distracted being in Eugene, and meeting Devi, and E, and a whole bunch of other people, and becoming what I consider to be a cultural worker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=771.79,802.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you come to study when you came here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=802.06,804.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Special education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=804.72,805.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=805.81,806.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=806.18,806.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Why did you choose University of Oregon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=806.6,808.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Because at the time, it had a really good special ed department, but more important, it was on the West Coast, and I couldn't get any further from New York. So it was the furthest I came. I first—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=808.87,825.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why did you want to get so far away from New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=825.18,827.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, because it was just— I wanted to grow up, I wanted to meet my contemporaries. I wanted to see who else was out there. And I certainly found it. I certainly found it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=827.39,838.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you describe your experience in school and up to high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=838.59,843.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I went to parochial school. I was pretty provocative. I skipped two grades. By the time I get to high school, I finally meet other people— I finally meet what I call the Jewish girls. They were not as sexually as suppressed as the Catholic school kids, and everything changed. High school really was pretty fun. Though big, big. My high school, my graduation class was around 1,500 people. If you ever watch Welcome Back, Kotter, that TV show, the beginning where they show the school and the neighborhood, that's my neighborhood. So I did not grow up in the pretty, affluent part of Brooklyn. We were very working class, though very diverse in terms of Jewish people, Italian people. Small stores, not even big grocery stores. It was a really wonderful way to grow up for a while. And whet my appetite to meet other people, to meet different people, to find more culture, to understand more of what was going on outside of Brooklyn because it was a really rough place to grow up, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=844.36,913.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why did you want to leave?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=913.97,915.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Why were you on the run from your family? Talk about why the family wasn't working for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=916.24,920.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Because I wasn't going to get married and live with them, and have children, and marry a man, and cater to them. Though later, I had great respect for my mother and aunts, and understood how their talent and running households and keeping everything running really well, and working on budgets, and what that all took. At the time, it was where my future was headed, no matter I got educated or not, and that was not going to happen. No. There was something else that was calling to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=920.56,953.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When did you know that you didn't want to marry and have a household like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=953.17,956.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Early, about seventeen. Yeah. Because I was ahead in school, so I was around older kids and had different ideas, and stuff like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=956.35,965.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was distasteful to you about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=965.54,968.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: It felt oppressive, that even though these women around me were enormously talented, they were also isolated, that I identified more with my dad who left. He left in the morning and was out in the world, and came back at night, and that seemed like what I wanted to pursue. That was very interesting to me. Besides raising children, which I think is enormously difficult.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=968.51,994.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was the year you came to Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=994.41,996.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Early ‘70s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=997.29,997.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was the year you came?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=997.92,1000.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I came in '74.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1001.23,1002.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Okay, what did Eugene look like then? What was it like here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1002.42,1007.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It was a funky working class town. There wasn't much money here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1007.31,1012.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The downtown was just a few dusty streets. I don't know if the Register-Guard was there, is still down there or it's gone to different headquarters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1013.8,1025.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1025.03,1025.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: But it was down in the middle of town. There was one gay bar, or the women's bar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1025.1,1032.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: The Riviera Room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1032.6,1035.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, the Riv Room. The buildings were largely in need of maintenance and repair. But it was an affordable place. You could live here on almost nothing. The economy was in good shape in the U.S. Ran off the war, and the war fed the economy, and we came of age at that time. We saw some of the boys who went to school with off to Vietnam. Both of us did. But the economy was still going, and the Great Society benefits were still flowing. The counter-revolution of Ronald Reagan hadn't started yet. And so it was a really cheap place to live. You could be funky, you could get your clothes at the Goodwill. We did—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1035.62,1086.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was downtown like? Do you remember downtown?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1086.58,1088.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, it was just like a few blocks worth of buildings, and empty storefronts here and there. We didn't own anything then, so it wasn't like we needed to go get housewares somewhere. We just went to the Goodwill for everything. When I think of how we moved, how often we moved and we threw everything in the back of a car.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1088.84,1112.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah. If we didn't have enough money to pay the rent, and there was a space, maybe a big closet, you just invited a friend, and they came, and they didn't have any money either, and for $50 — that kind of rent was really good. We lived really extendedly. 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Who wanted to live that way? 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Really, really white. I remember the first time I signed or was looking for a place to live, and they saw my last name, Picariello, and turned around and said, \"Oh, you're a Dago. Oh, you're a Dago.\" And I was like, I had no idea what that meant. I knew it wasn't good, but I didn't really know what the slur meant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1140.49,1164.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was only recently that I Googled it and found out that it was people that are Spanish, Portuguese or Italian. Go figure. All of a sudden I felt like—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1164.71,1176.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Those Romans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1176.61,1176.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: —I was not quite white enough here. I wasn't Protestant. My grandparents immigrated here. We were always under the impression— I was under the impression that had you been in this country for generations, then you must be a millionaire. I found people like Devi and Red, and I just thought, what went wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1176.73,1198.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very downwardly mobile, very—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1200.6,1204.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, not on either side of my family for generations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1204.16,1205.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: What happened? That was a little unsettling, actually, to all of a sudden be considered the person of color in the room was like, “whoa.” You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1205.93,1220.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yeah. Marilyn, I wanted to ask you, when you came to attend UO, were you an undergraduate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1221.19,1228.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marilyn: No, graduate school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1228.12,1229.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Or graduate student?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1229.2,1229.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Graduate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1229.42,1230.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay. Where did you go to undergraduate school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1230.13,1231.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: City College of New York, Harlem. In Harlem. A hundred and Thirty-fifth street. Very different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1231.76,1237.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You said it was very distracting when you came here. What were the distractions for each of you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1238.02,1245.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: For me, it was the lesbian community. All of a sudden, there was just a lot of energy. We were young. We were so young, early twenties. It was just like, wow! let's see what we can do. A lot of energy to start things. It wasn't like we were just sitting around. We were smoking a lot of pot, but we were also dreaming things up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1245.99,1270.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meeting Devi was monumental. It was life changing for me. We became lovers and partners, and comrades, and started Mother Kali's together along with E. It was amazing. It was just great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1270.16,1283.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Devi is Kathryn's nickname?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1283.85,1285.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1285.64,1285.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That's my nickname. 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Marilyn, what was your nickname?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1286.87,1289.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: She named me Muff, short for muffin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1289.7,1292.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Muffy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1292.9,1293.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Muffy. Some friends here still, they'll call me Muffin, they'll go, \"Oh.\" It's like, it's fine, it's fine. Don't worry about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1293.55,1301.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you do for fun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1301.98,1304.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Went to the Riv Room, danced. I'm a musician.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1304.28,1308.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You played music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1308.05,1308.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Play music a lot. That was the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1308.27,1310.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Wrote poetry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1310.23,1311.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: —other— wanting to find out who the other women musicians were in town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1311.05,1315.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did you play?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1315.62,1316.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: First, I'm a guitar player. As a teenager, took lessons. And then because there was a need here, I became a drummer, and that opened up all kinds of doors because there wasn't—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1316.41,1328.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It’s interesting to hear that there was a need for a drummer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1328.28,1331.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah. In particular.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1331.78,1332.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Where? How was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1332.98,1334.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Well, we wanted to play rock music. We wanted to play original music, and you needed a drummer for that beat. 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Can't remember where it was. Some place that was very cold. Yeah, a lot of different places with a lot of the same people. And then we would just change names, and change style of music. I played in country western bands, played in jazz bands, I played in punk bands, but with a lot of the same people pretty much. Did Mort’s Port, which was a collaboration with The Wallflower Order, which was a big musical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1352.95,1386.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was part of the band there with David Winters, and Kat, and Susie. A lot of the same people, but we were very interested in different styles in music. Along with creating Mother Kali's and starting that from the ground up, we also had to have music studios. Very often here in town, there were, as you know, next door to where you lived, the living space, there was a garage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1387.43,1413.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because I did not grow up with garages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1414.05,1415.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We very often would go to remnant carpet places, go into the dumpsters, get carpeting, and make these garages music studios. I must have made in the time I lived here, I don't know, ten of them or something. I was really very good at turning garages into music studios.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1415.76,1436.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where abouts in town were those?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1436.03,1438.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: A lot of times they were out River Road where I live now, because you had more room there. It wasn't so urban. But the Whiteaker, definitely, we moved there. We lived there for a long time, west side. One of my bands was West Side Jazz, and that because we lived in the Whiteaker. And then as rents were climbing, we kept moving. Going over the Chambers bridge to River Road. Lived there a lot in various different places because we could do what we wanted there cheaply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1438.06,1470.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: How about you, Kathryn? Your different experiences, activities in Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1470.73,1480.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I think when I look back on our lives there, they were so connected with others, other people. There were dancers, there were poets, there were songwriters, there were the musicians. There were people who were painting. Everybody knew each other, and we hung out together, and slept together, and rented houses together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1482.68,1514.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what we lived for, was to write and read poetry or music, and share that with each other, and do that. Out of that, grew Mother Kali's. There was a coffee house, Gertrude's. The Wallflower was really a wonderful dance troupe. Linda Rose from the Wallflowers is Mar's partner now. We lived, and were connected with all those folks. There was a karate studio that a lot of women took black belts in, including some of the Wallflower women. The Wallflower women, for me, were really important because their art was so beautiful. It was really amazing to see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1517.97,1571.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They kicked down the door of — they were all ballet students and classical dancers, and they just kicked those doors down, and came in the bodies they had, and did really interesting and I thought brave pieces. But art. They really spoke through their bodies, and that was always really wonderful to see. They were all completely out of their minds, but it was really fun. The whole community was— we were in our twenties. Drugs and alcohol were definitely a part of the scene. We were under a lot of pressure because the American right wing was really unleashed with the election of Ronald Reagan. Here, it meant that Anita Bryant and Phyllis Schlafly, I think her name was, came to Oregon to try to help pass legislation against gays and lesbians. That was pretty alarming and awful to see from the highest office in the land (here we are again).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1572.73,1645.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then to have Reagan and others speak out against us. To this day, I can't understand why anyone would waste their time complaining about gay people. Some of the nicest people on the planet. What is the problem? I've just never been able to get my head around it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1645.37,1666.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But a lot of people are really cranked about it, and they're dangerous folks to us. Have been, and threatening. I think the legacy that gays, lesbians, queer people carry of being denigrated has been internalized, and people have to sort through all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1666.95,1693.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's happens in a lot of ways in our culture, but that's the way it happened in the community we were part of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1694.17,1699.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I do have to add that of all the causes that we were not quiet about, the one that really pushed us over the edge in terms of the government coming in and spying on us was the American Indian Movement. We had people from the Dakotas come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1699.35,1718.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: From Pine Ridge Reservation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1718.7,1720.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: From Pine Ridge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1720.84,1721.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: A woman named Ellen Moves Camp came here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1721.28,1722.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right, to talk about what was going on there. That was the thing. I think the next few days, all of a sudden men in suits were coming into the bookstore, looking around and asking questions. I'd be like, \"The FBI is here.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1722.78,1737.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: They tapped our personal phones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1737.11,1738.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, they did. They did. That was the reason.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1738.68,1741.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: You're kidding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1741.73,1741.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: No, my phone had been tapped when I lived in Seattle and was part of the anti-war movement. I know this because during Jimmy Carter's administration you could apply for and get—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1741.85,1751.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Freedom of information?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1754.35,1755.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1755.35,1755.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: You could know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1755.99,1756.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: There were five different government agencies, scary ones that I didn't even know existed, who had my name and kept track of me for quite a few years. I wish I had been a threat to the state, but believe me, I was no threat to the state. Kind of stunning. An example of how we were connected, it was Laurie at Amazon Publishing, which was in the same building, on the same floor as Jackrabbit Press. Have you talked to Kate Thompson from Jackrabbit Press yet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1756.53,1787.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Not yet. Not yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1787.16,1787.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Growers Market, around there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1787.76,1788.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, down there across from the train station. Next door to her was Laurie. I didn't remember Laurie's last name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1788.92,1797.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: No, I don't either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1797.77,1798.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: She ran Amazon Publishing. What Lesbians Do was one of her books. Men came into Mother Kali's all the time, and they would beeline. They must talk about it up in the woods where they live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1798.04,1808.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Go to Mother Kali's and look at the book, What Lesbians Do. They'd walk in the door and we'd just watch them. There they go. We'd say, \"Mister, that's not for you. You can leave now.\" But anyway, it was Laurie who brought Ellen Moves Camp in from the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. She told us about what was going on in Pine Ridge, and that was after the second Wounded Knee, which happened in 1973. We got to know her, Ellen, and Kamook Banks and Dennis Banks. That just set off a lot of craziness in the people who were watching them, which was the FBI because they were involved in Wounded Knee, and they were part of a group that was accused of killing FBIs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1808.59,1861.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right, and [crosstalk 00:31:03].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1862.41,1863.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Anyway, but we were all kind of connected in that way. Laurie said, \"You've got to come to this potluck,\" and seventy-five women showed up, and a lot of us helped them from then on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1863.95,1876.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can we step back for a second?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1877.26,1879.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1879.52,1879.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: If you could tell us when you met, and how you came to start Mother Kali's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1879.81,1886.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I came down from Seattle with Ellen Greenlaw and a woman named S. Reddick, Shelley Reddick who's now in Seattle, and was part of the Red and Black Bookstore for a long time. Reddick knew a woman here, Kathy Timmons, a lesbian. I suppose we expected and probably did crash at Kathy Timmons's apartment. When we arrived, Marilyn was there with her guitar. Kathy and Marilyn were playing music. I think I left that night madly in love with Marilyn, this brown eyed girl from Brooklyn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1888.49,1931.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, ditto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1931.31,1931.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It's like, wow, really? New York? What could that mean? So that's how we met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1931.45,1939.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1940.25,1942.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That was '74.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1947.52,1947.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: They moved down here during the next year. E has a big fat inheritance of $800 and says to us, \"Well, what should we do with it?\" We had two options. This is how I remember it. We have two options. We can start a bakery or we could start a bookstore. We were like, \"Well, bakery, that means we have to get up in the middle of the night, and we don't know the first thing about baking. You guys have this wealth of knowledge around books and culture. Let's open a bookstore.\" That's what we did with $800. Of course at the time, we did not get paid because that was a big no- no. We were cultural workers, and so we weren't going to get a salary. We didn't get a salary for a while. And then—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1947.73,1994.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, we didn't have any money, didn't make any money for ages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1994.9,1996.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Eventually, eventually—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1996.01,1998.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We started making like $40, was it a month?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=1998.59,2001.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right, $40 a month.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2001.87,2003.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Were you done with your master's program at that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2004.83,2007.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I was very done with all of that, yes. I was done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2007.19,2010.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You didn't—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2011.58,2011.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you work in your profession?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2011.79,2013.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Very little. I worked for a research company here that was very much involved with behavior. What was it called? Behavior management? Behavior— I'm sorry. I'm spacing out. The first month that I was part of this research team, watching kids do all sorts of bad behaviors and tracking it, I was so out of there. I was like, okay so what do these kids have in common? Let's see. They're poor. They're poor, and they have problems with reading, and they have behavioral problems. Oh, behavioral modification, that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2013.38,2055.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was the negative behavior modification approach, a positive, and a neutral. I was like, man, this is fucked up. I went to school for this? Yeah, I didn't pursue that. But the real reason was to leave home. The real reason was to plan my escape route. I broke my parents’ hearts anyway, but I wanted to do it in a softer way. The idea of going to school was way more— they could take that in better. I was one of the few family members that went to graduate school, so it was okay until I said I wasn't coming back. Then it wasn't so okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2055.64,2104.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We start Mother Kali's, and I decide because I'm so in love—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2105.72,2109.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: On Eleventh Avenue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2109.36,2110.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: On Eleventh. I'm so in love, I write them a letter, and I tell them that I'm out, I'm a lesbian, that I'm in love with Devi. It didn't go over so great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2110.51,2119.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did they say, your parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2119.71,2121.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: They said, \"Do you want to come home and get some mental help?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2121.08,2124.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You want to see a psychiatrist?\" I went, \"Uh no, I don't think so.\" And broke my mother's heart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2126.29,2131.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Your brother told you that you'd broken your mother's heart, and sent her to the hospital.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2132.1,2137.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And sent her to the hospital. Yeah. But it was okay. It was kind of like, it's okay. And then about thirty-five years later—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2137.56,2146.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I kind of remember us being pretty devastated by that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2146.53,2149.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, it was pretty awful. But it was also like I wasn't going to drop — again, I was at this crossroads of should I not do this, or should I go back home? That wasn't going to happen. Processing for thirty- five years, they finally acknowledged Linda's and my relationship, and embraced her and loved her. I say, \"You see? 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That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2182.66,2186.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did you choose the name Mother Kali's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2186.68,2189.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: E came up with it. She was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2189.73,2192.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you explain E again for the record?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2193.09,2195.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: E is Ellen Greenlaw. She was the third. 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She also had a degree in literature from the University of Washington, and she was a writer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2202.7,2208.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Very passionate about women's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2208.48,2211.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Literature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2211.89,2212.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes, very.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2212.76,2214.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Now, you scouted out, you decided let's go find a place where we can have this bookstore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2215.08,2219.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2219.87,2220.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2220.15,2220.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What came first? Thinking about your stock, or where it would be located?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2220.43,2225.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Well actually, we really wanted to create a women's community center, and wanted to be able to invite women and come and dialogue around what was going on culturally, and so how are we going to pay for this? Well, a bookstore. That's how that happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2225.71,2242.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a funky little house on—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2242.37,2244.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: On Eleventh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2244.59,2246.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: —on Eleventh that now the lot is still for sale, but it was a house. It was a nice house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2246.99,2252.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Funky old clapboard sided house right on Eleventh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2252.45,2256.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Eleventh and?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2256.63,2257.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Lawrence. Around there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2257.5,2258.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2258.98,2259.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Lincoln.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2260.7,2261.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Whoever owned it agreed to rent it to us for something we thought we could afford, and we did it all at once. E and I worked on ordering books, trying to find the titles we wanted. Tony Morrison was coming into print. Alice Walker was coming into print. The lesbian presses and women's presses were coming online. Audre Lorde, Judy Grahn. We were doing that, and then our friend Casey was building bookshelves for us. We were trying to clean the place up and get it kind of spiffy, and set up a little office and a place where — weren't there a couple rooms downstairs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2261.2,2305.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes. Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2305.52,2307.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: People came and had meetings, or they came and had writer's groups, or they had and schemed about—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2307.18,2313.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Poetry groups.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2314.0,2315.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: —some political event they wanted to hold. But it was a place where a young woman coming into town could drop in and connect with the lesbian scene. Really, it was there, plugged in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2315.52,2329.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How would you know about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2329.14,2330.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I would think if you could get to the Riv Room, a couple beers later you'd know about Mother Kali's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2330.22,2337.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: It was a hub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2337.89,2340.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, it was a hub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2340.26,2341.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: It was, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2341.28,2341.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You wouldn't have to be in town— because everybody knew everybody. Everybody was connected like the map of who slept with who. I think that was one thing that was pretty amazing about this community, and I don't know if it's true elsewhere in the country. But, we never had a day where we didn't stay friends. We never had a single day where we didn't stay connected after we came to the end of being lovers. I think that was true for a lot of women. It's not always true. But a lot of relationships endured through lots of changes, and that connected a very tight web in this town for a long time of close relationships and people taking care of each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2341.43,2394.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How were they able to stay friends when the model of heterosexual breaking up or divorce doesn't tell that story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2394.36,2401.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That's a really good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2401.49,2402.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: That's a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2402.64,2403.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Because partly, we were all on the run from that story, so we were willing to examine that. I think that was part of it. And then when the rest of the cultural puts a fence around you and says you're different and blah, blah, blah, or the other things they said, then maybe there's more reason or more energy for trying to make it work. It paid off to try to make it work. We didn't have to work at that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2403.46,2435.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2435.13,2435.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It just happened for us. We were lucky. But you were all still connected. What did it mean? You'd have to leave or what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2435.36,2444.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2444.59,2444.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: How bad would it have to be? And also, I just think there was just a softness about divorces within— there was some way that the community facilitated it. I don't know quite, I couldn't describe it but I think there was a way that people tried to make it possible for each other where the relationship just changed, but people to stay friends with both, and all of that stuff that matters for a community to hold the change along with the two people who have to endure it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2444.71,2487.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Plus, in terms of breakups and divorces, on the material level, there was nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2487.85,2493.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: True.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2493.85,2493.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: You shared records. There was no—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2497.57,2499.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And pots and pans. We had to split up our bowls.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2499.28,2499.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right, there were no big fights. Okay, who's going to get the bookshelf? Because that comes later when you have more stuff, and who has what, and who's the owner of what. The other thing about it was we were very anti-monogamy. That was a patriarch value placed on us. All hell broke loose in terms of that, so you couldn't live that way and then be mad when your lover was sleeping with someone else. You were very—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2499.67,2527.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I was. I could be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2527.69,2529.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, you could be. But you know what I mean on a bigger level?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2529.97,2534.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2534.47,2534.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Those were the values we were trying to work through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2534.69,2538.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And make room for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2538.32,2539.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And make room for, so you couldn't be — it was kind of like, no there's no room for that. The only regret that I kind of have in terms of the community was around lesbians with boy children. I don't know if anyone has talked about this, but that was really a very, very difficult thing. Often times, women with boy children— the philosophy or the political rightness, correctness was that they needed to be raised by men. And so some of those boys were farmed out to gay men here in Eugene. I'm not sure if people you've talked to have spoken about that, but it was a really, really hard thing. It was something, for me anyway, that really, I don't know, it wasn't right. There was something not right about it. I could understand. I had to decide to not be bisexual, to not relate to men and be bisexual. But to give up the boy children, that's a hard thing. That is a really hard thing. Not everyone did it, but it was certainly a dialogue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2539.21,2609.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was a gay men's investment in taking the children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2609.32,2612.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Well, we convinced them that it was their role.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2612.66,2615.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Some of the dads later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2615.74,2617.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Some later were the dads through artificial insemination or turkey baster babies that we called them. But yeah, that was a real hard one. Real hard one. It caused a lot of pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2617.32,2629.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you please describe the layout of the bookstore? Walk into it, and take us through it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2629.8,2641.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, you'd come in the front door. I think it was a glass door probably. On either side would've been bookshelves that Casey built, kind of tall shelves. I think she had wooden uprights on the shelves. She built us real bookcases. We had a window seat about halfway up the wall to your left, and people could hang out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2644.31,2671.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I think in back was what would've been the kitchen of the house where we made tea or coffee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2671.03,2677.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right. Office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2677.24,2677.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: There was a bathroom back there. Then off to the side were the two bedrooms, and those were meeting rooms. Those were where people came and met or had poetry readings and stuff like that. We didn't have an enormous stock. Now if you go into bookstores, there would be tables all along through the middle of a bookstore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2677.9,2703.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There wasn't that. It was open, wood floor, lots of windows, single pane of course, so it could be cold at times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2703.62,2712.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was there a bulletin board?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2714.14,2714.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Roomy. A what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2714.88,2716.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you have a bulletin board?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2716.35,2717.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Out front. And a free box, of course on the front porch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2717.29,2720.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We let people know what was going on and what was coming up, what things they could attend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2720.28,2727.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: But the other unique thing about our bookstore on Eleventh, and then eventually we moved to Blair, across from Tacovore, which is now Tacovore, and right next door to Zoo Zoo's. Nowadays it's a Japanese restaurant, but it was Mother Kali's. But what I wanted to talk about for a minute was the inventory. We got into a lot of trouble because of the inventory that reflected who we were. What I mean by that was Devi has talked about feminist literature. Of course that was very well represented. But we also had witchcraft, we also had Mao, political, communist stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2727.19,2770.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We had Robert Graves, Jung.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2770.87,2772.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah. Everyone, however you identified, you could find books there, but you would also say, like the commies would say, \"Well, what's the witchcraft stuff? What's that? Natural healing, well why is that here?\" We were always having to explain, “Well, because we're cultural workers and this is the culture that we're trying to live by and promote.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2772.28,2795.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And it was us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2795.62,2796.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And it was us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2796.38,2796.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We were. All those things seemed within our scope of what we were willing to ask questions about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2796.58,2803.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I think that stayed throughout the opening and closing of Mother Kali's. It never became just one thing, not that I know of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2803.5,2816.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2816.76,2817.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: They always had that mix. That was because that's how it was founded.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2817.94,2821.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2821.89,2822.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you read a lot individually?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2822.65,2824.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I don't really like to read. There was study groups. That was left to them. I was more of the community cheerleader.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2825.92,2835.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, you were the extrovert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2835.68,2838.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What were the operating hours?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2838.6,2840.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yes, I did always much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2840.05,2842.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: When were you open?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2842.56,2844.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, probably about 10:00. Ten or 11:00 until 6:00 at night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2844.04,2848.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2848.63,2849.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, something like that. I think we were there probably six days a week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2849.49,2853.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, yeah. And then there were the meetings at night, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2853.87,2857.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Uh-huh [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2857.23,2858.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Right, readings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2858.12,2858.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: We had to move, and we moved to, like I said, to the Blair space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2858.24,2861.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That had an upstairs, and E hung this enormous parachute on the ceiling, and that's where a lot of our meetings for the community happened. I remember one of the landlords came over kind of in a fit and said, \"You're not going to have lesbian powwows up here are you?\" And we said, \"Absolutely not.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2861.35,2884.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did he not want about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2888.22,2889.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: He did not want a lesbian powwow. He did not want lesbians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2889.75,2893.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2893.52,2893.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, he didn't—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2894.1,2895.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: What could the problem be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2895.15,2896.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: That's what I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2898.7,2899.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: But it's just so blatant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2899.98,2901.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, yeah. Yeah just like, \"Are you a Dago?\" You're very blatant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2901.25,2904.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, right. But we assured her that no, we weren't going to have that. No, no, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2905.17,2910.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: A lot of people lived right in that neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2910.87,2913.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2913.64,2914.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, totally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2914.38,2915.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2915.15,2916.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Kate Thompson lived down there, and I lived in that neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2916.01,2919.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I lived like two door down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2919.72,2921.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Reddick did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2921.57,2922.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2922.11,2923.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Did you tell us yet why you chose the name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2924.01,2926.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2927.3,2927.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2927.9,2927.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: We don't know why. You did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2928.0,2928.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I think partly I'd been interested in a woman named Sarada Devi, a teacher, Hindu spiritual teacher. In reading about her, I'd read about the great Mother Kali. It just seemed kind of provocative to name it after a goddess who's shown with a necklace of skulls.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2928.28,2954.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And a sword. She's the dark mother of India. It was so, so anti- American, so anti-European. 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Was she the goddess of mercy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2965.95,2967.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2967.5,2967.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2967.95,2968.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And so, we just went for it. But people always thought that was kind of crazy. It was kind of crazy. But there was, for how many years did Mother Kali's go? Thirty years or something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2969.71,2981.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2981.84,2984.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I think we did do some paperwork for Mother Kali's and incorporated with the State of Oregon, but we never owned it. We never thought of ourselves as small business people or owners. We were a collective. We met on Sundays and made all our decisions together. E and I would figure out what to order and who to order it from. When we handed it off, we were done. We needed to earn money in a different way, and we needed to earn money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=2984.22,3014.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: When did that happen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3016.7,3018.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We just gave it away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3018.2,3019.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: We just gave it away, yeah. We just like, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3019.57,3022.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3022.52,3022.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It was '79, we think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3022.6,3022.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Anne, to Anne, Izzie. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3022.87,3024.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah. She'd been working there, and she seemed like a fine person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3024.63,3029.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think there were a couple other people there, too. We always had friends who helped us, volunteered in the bookstore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3030.18,3038.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Women that were just getting out of prison, out of the Salem Penitentiary came and volunteered. We were fine with it because we understood why they were in prison. Most of the time were for bad checks or whatever. So yeah, we really created something that we really wanted and lived.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3039.49,3054.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What did it feel like at the time to know that you had created this central place for community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3055.34,3062.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, that's a good question. I suppose, I really enjoyed it. It was fun to be in the middle of things. Yeah. Even though we caught shit from different factions. The Stalinists were in Eugene, and the Maoists were in Eugene. We were in Mother Kali's. And they were like—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3062.93,3087.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And the natural food people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3087.61,3087.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And the natural food people, and the men who wanted to read about what lesbians do. But it was fun to be in the middle of this wider community. Mother Kali's was definitely a fixture in that. We saw everybody who came through town out of the collectives that were in the country and in the southern part of Oregon, anybody passing through town. It was really fun. I think I felt a sense that we'd made something. It was really fun to do it with my partner, and we had a good time as I recall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3087.85,3126.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, and I was really—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3126.93,3128.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We didn't have any inner conflicts or splits or anything like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3128.41,3133.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Years later when Linda and I get together and are living in San Francisco, we would come back here for part of the summer because San Francisco did not have a summer. When we would come back, at times I would say, \"Well, what happened to Mother Kali's?\" And I remember one of the last times I went to the newer bookstore was up near the university, and met some of the people there. They were so adorable. One question was, \"Well, you ran it collectively. How was that?\" In other words, what we really want to know is, did you argue a lot?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3133.33,3165.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Really, you think that was what they were—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3165.83,3167.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: That's what they asked me, and I said, \"Oh, no. We didn't argue.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3167.4,3170.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I had no idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3170.89,3174.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: No, there was no conflict. Everything was just — and she was like, \"Really?\" And then I said, \"No. That's not true.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3174.14,3180.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: No, it's not. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3181.33,3181.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: But we liked conflict because we thought that was the way, that was creative, that was creativity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3181.52,3187.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You don't remember so dramatically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3187.05,3189.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I don't remember having a lot of serious conflict in the bookstore. Do you? Among ourselves?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3189.52,3195.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Maybe it was just in my life, and I was just saying. 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Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3218.1,3221.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I wanted to finish a degree. I was tired. I had been a waitress through a lot of that, and I could see that that was going to be really hard going into my thirties if I kept it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3222.24,3234.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, yeah, that was at thirties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3234.43,3235.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah. There it was. And so, I came to the university and finished my degree that I'd started at the University of Washington in 1968.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3235.84,3248.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What subject was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3248.88,3250.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I finished it here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3250.02,3251.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What major were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3251.7,3252.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I was in the English department, but I mostly studied with the ethnographers at that point were in the English Department. Barre Tolkien and Sharon Sherman were my main professors. I saw Sharon last time I was in town. Yeah, which was wonderful. They were just unbelievably good, top flight professors, and really influenced a lot of what I went on to make films, and my films were really influenced by them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3252.92,3282.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And for me, I was turning twenty-eight. It was the Saturn return. I was really pretty tired of working so hard, and not having any money. So where did I go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3282.95,3295.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: So you became a rock and roll star [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3295.33,3296.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And I went to Starflower. Because at least I got a salary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3296.8,3302.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, that's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3302.15,3303.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And a lot of food that we gave away. At the time, that was really kind of like a solid job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3303.1,3305.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It was a solid job for a lot of women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3305.39,3305.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, so that was why—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3305.83,3306.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Starflower, yeah. We haven't even mentioned Starflower. That was an amazing thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3306.33,3317.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was your experience working there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3318.21,3319.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That was here when we came here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3319.13,3320.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I worked in the warehouse, learned to drive a forklift, and met some wonderful, wonderful people. Paula Jo Vaden, Sally Sheklow, Sydney Putnam, Laurie—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3320.74,3331.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I don't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3332.64,3334.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: — McClain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3334.39,3334.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: McClain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3334.46,3335.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, a lot of—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3335.6,3336.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Who’s passed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3336.87,3337.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Margaret Cormier, a lot of wonderful, wonderful women. We did it. We did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3337.78,3342.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Breeze was there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3342.94,3344.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Breeze was there. Yeah. It was great. It was crazy, but it was great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3344.14,3348.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The processing was crazy. It was exhausting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3348.52,3351.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3351.5,3352.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You guys were running a big company then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3352.72,3355.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3355.02,3355.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What were your living situations?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3355.62,3359.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Well, we didn't talk about Lorane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3361.32,3364.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, we lived—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3364.8,3365.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Our back-to-the-land experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3365.67,3367.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Everything was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3367.53,3371.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Talk about downwardly mobile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3371.51,3373.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That was like money we didn't have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3373.4,3374.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Let's just make it harder on all levels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3374.65,3377.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: When we first got together, we moved to Lorane. Have you ever been out to Lorane?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3377.39,3381.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Uh-huh [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3381.3,3381.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: The Fitch Camp?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3381.46,3382.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, the Fitch Camp out there. Lesbians totally took it for a couple years I think we were out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3382.58,3388.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: There were like four or five cabins. Only one cabin had a bathroom, a tub with hot running water. 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We didn't know how to sharpen a saw. We didn't know anything. It was crazy. But it was a lot of fun, and there was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3409.97,3422.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: How many people lived there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3422.83,3424.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: How many were—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3424.62,3425.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, counting all the people who came and went and the new girlfriends that would show up for X, Y or Z, I don't know. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3488.23,3489.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Mrs. Fitch owned that property?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3489.7,3490.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3490.95,3491.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And that was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3491.03,3491.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: She was alive when we moved in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3491.39,3493.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: She lived there, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3493.58,3494.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: We could con anyone about anything. We were so charming and so young and vibrant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3494.59,3500.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: She didn't seem to notice that we were lesbians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3500.36,3502.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What was the rent? Do you remember the rent?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3502.69,3503.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: She didn't even—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3503.09,3503.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Especially E. She could con anyone. Especially old ladies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3503.7,3506.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, she was good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3506.65,3507.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: She was great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3507.08,3507.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: She was good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3507.65,3507.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What were you saying? That you were friends who wanted to live on the land?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3507.92,3510.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3510.5,3510.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And could you rent from her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3510.58,3511.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3511.81,3512.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, yeah. There are people out there now. We went—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3512.63,3515.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Oh, God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3515.39,3515.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We went out there the year that Marilyn and Linda organized the forty-year reunion here. And so M and I drove out there, and I think there were meth dealers out there then. 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Yes. Still there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3548.0,3551.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Way back up there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3551.68,3552.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Now it's meth polluted, huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3553.12,3554.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, it was then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3554.86,3556.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: It was then. I don't think now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3556.89,3557.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Then we went one more time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3557.28,3558.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3558.1,3559.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And it seemed like things had gotten a little better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3559.03,3562.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Poor Mrs. Fitch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3563.44,3565.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I think she'd been gone for a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3566.35,3568.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Had gone. 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It ran on four cylinders. It was a six cylinder car. It was crazy. 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Mar went to San Francisco.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3635.97,3642.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: In the ‘80s. 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Or you first and then Linda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3648.85,3652.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3652.07,3652.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: But it broke up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3652.38,3653.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We did, yeah. 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Devi and George stood up for us when we got married here, and when you and George got married, we stood up for them. 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And then you get older, and then you start acquiring things, and then you realize that if your partner or you get sick, you have absolutely no rights, and that changed. That changed a lot. We missed it in San Francisco.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3683.36,3711.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Linda and I did not get married in San Francisco. We missed it. 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It was all about healthcare. It was about that stuff. Once that started sinking in, after some thirty years of Linda and I being together, we got here and we decided to get married because she was having some health issues, and I wanted to be on the record as her wife. 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I think that was not a bad way to try to live. I think during the AIDS crisis that slammed into the communities in the ‘80s, it was proven. A lot of lesbians took care of those guys, helped too. There was love there. It was done with love. It showed this country how to bury your people. It changed forever how death and dying happens in this county. I think that's because a loving network of people stepped up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3761.76,3805.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I decide to leave in the early ‘80s, go to San Francisco, and guess what? The AIDS epidemic hits. Bam! I became a volunteer, an emotional practical support volunteer for a while, did that. And then I worked at Project Open Hand, which made and delivered meals for people with AIDS. I did that for over ten years, in Volunteer Services and became a manager of Volunteer Services, and met a lot of wonderful, wonderful people again. That service thing, that community thing definitely continued until 1998 where I had the opportunity to go into, believe it or not, residential real estate, and I sold residential real estate in San Francisco for about fifteen years, and everything changed. Everything changed in terms of my life, in terms of money, in terms of resources. It was also the first time that I was around powerful women. Because women in San Francisco in real estate run that industry. A lot of women run that industry. Gay, straight, whatever. It was the first time I was in a community of powerful women, and the difference being they had money and they got paid well for what they did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3805.47,3884.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was really amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3884.53,3885.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was really monumental that I ended my work career like that, because I had been poor, and then I had money. I have to say, having money is way less stressful. It may have other problems, but in terms of the stress, the everyday stress, it was very different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3886.01,3903.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My whole idea of selling out and going into profit, for profit, and making good money, and meeting these wonderful women that made good money and were enormously generous in times of donating to nonprofits, in terms of helping each other make a living, and giving each other business, it was really eye opening. I never expected it. 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I probably could not have done it without that history or herstory. Definitely not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3936.86,3946.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interesting enough, coming back here in 2014, one of the challenges that I did not think was going to happen was all of a sudden I was in a community in a town where I didn't know if people knew I was a lesbian. Because all of a sudden I'm affluent, I have a home, I have a partner. That's a whole other chapter. And all of a sudden it was really important to me that I came back and would tell people, \"Oh, this is my partner. And not only is this my partner, I'm a lesbian. That's how I identify. I'm queer.\" Where in San Francisco for twenty-five years, I never did that. I never had to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3947.33,3987.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why didn't you have to there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3987.54,3989.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Because it was so well represented. And also, no one really cared.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3989.81,3997.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: “Queer capital.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3997.32,3998.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: No one cared. It kind of crossed lines into diversity in a really healthy way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=3998.35,4005.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why did you come back here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4006.91,4007.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I wanted to retire here. I wanted to come back to a town that I really loved. I wanted a slower pace. I have elderly parents, and I need to go back home, back East a lot, and I just couldn't handle what was happening to San Francisco and the changes there. And I sold our house, took the money, and ran, and came back. Linda and I started Insight Meditation Sangha because we had started meditating down in San Francisco. It had not existed here before we got here, so once again, we started something new, and that's called Eugene Insight Meditation Community. Just recently, we started a smaller queer group for the LGBTAA, anyone that identifies that way. We just started that group two months ago as an offshoot of Eugene Insight. We're still doing it, still doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4007.93,4075.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Devi and Linda and I have been dharma buddies for over ten years, and she just came down on Wednesday night to talk about recovery and the dharma, Twelve-Step and the dharma. Was that last night?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4075.85,4092.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It was last night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4092.65,4094.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Just last night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4094.97,4095.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Just last night. That's what we were doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4095.34,4095.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: She and Linda co-led it. The beat goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4095.7,4098.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It's sweet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4099.78,4100.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why did you leave Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4100.88,4102.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, Marilyn was gone, and Jo and Marilyn had moved to San Francisco by then. I guess people were leaving. The community had kind of wound down and run through its energy. Yeah, that's really why I left. I landed back in Seattle to help take care of my mother, who became very ill when I was in my mid-thirties. So I did that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4104.34,4137.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What work did you do in Seattle?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4137.88,4140.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I finished my degree here, and then I worked in a food bank for a while, and ran a program for them. And then I went to work for public television in Seattle. I worked at the PBS affiliate in Seattle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4142.76,4156.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I decided, I got it into my head that I would make my own films. My first film had its international premiere at the Venice Film Festival in Italy. That was pretty thrilling and wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4159.43,4172.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of film was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4172.86,4173.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It was a film about a homeless girl. Yeah. Some of the things that mattered earlier, went on mattering a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4173.86,4182.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4182.65,4183.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: This was in the ‘80s, I guess was it? Early ‘90s by then. But the food bank was in the late ‘80s. The food banks were just full of people because of the policies of Ronald Reagan. I made it about a girl who lived in homeless shelters with her family in Seattle, called No Place Like Home, and went all over the world as a film. Went on to make other films as well for a while. 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I thought I'd go back to do more films, but I took a year off, and began a book of poems instead because poetry had always been my love all those years. That's what I pursued ever since. I earned my living until a couple years ago as a freelance writer for a foundation, several foundations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4214.42,4246.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Foundation in Baltimore called the Annie E. Casey Foundation, and the Bellmill and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and other foundations that needed help with websites and copy, and stuff like that. And just kept writing. I have a book of poems in print, and I'm trying to find a publisher for my second book. 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I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4279.05,4279.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I don't work for money anymore, so yes, I consider myself retired. I just do the things I want to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4279.76,4286.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you have any thoughts — I've been asking people who are looking at retirement that are living differently now, any thoughts you have about aging as lesbians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4286.18,4295.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I'm bisexual. I have a husband now. So you—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4297.66,4300.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I'm giggling because I broke my ankle here in May, and so for the last three and a half months or so, I've been really dealing with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4301.75,4313.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Buddhist terms, they call it the three heavenly messengers. Old age, sickness, and death. So there we are. I'm trying to do it gracefully. This particular summer has been really, really hard. But I have enough knowledge and wherewithal to deal with it hopefully in healthier ways than feeling like a victim, or why did this happen to me. Yeah. I'm really glad to be in a small town, aging in a small town. The pace is way easier to age in, I think. It's good. It's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4316.02,4355.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You guys, in terms of being two girls together, you feel like you have legal protections that you need?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4355.61,4363.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4363.34,4363.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You guys have all your ducks in a row, anyway?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4363.88,4365.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I think we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4365.92,4366.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: With your finances and stuff? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4366.73,4367.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Absolutely. Long-term care — Who would've imagined?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4367.77,4371.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4371.11,4372.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Do you have any concerns about long-term care as lesbians if you were to go into a retirement home or assisted living?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4372.21,4382.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: We'll see. We'll have to wait and see. Right now the idea is we have a single family home that's on one level, and recently we added a room and a bathroom which we jokingly call for our aide when we need him or her to come and live with us. So, we'll see. We'll see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4382.68,4402.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you ask you about your self identification as bisexual?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4402.53,4408.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4408.35,4408.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: You're married to a man now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4409.07,4410.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4412.86,4413.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: We have talked to other lesbians who have married—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4413.02,4415.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Have you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4415.56,4415.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Yes. People have different attitudes about what they call themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4415.7,4419.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4419.18,4420.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: I'm wondering why you choose bisexual, or have you put thought into that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4420.36,4425.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, of course. Well, I don't know. It's been really hard in some ways. There are people who are really angry at me for that, for the fact that I got together with Georgie. But other dear friends are just, continued on as a community. George was in the Red and Black bookstore collective, so he was surrounded by the girls. I know the lesbian community, so I know that many of the women I knew had either slept with men or occasionally still slept with men. It wasn't all black and white ever as much as it maybe was supposed to look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4426.99,4479.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think I felt that attitude pretty keenly at times. And oddly, it was so odd because George worked in this collective of women. I think there were a few other men in that collective or something. But I really felt like I got the brunt of the pissed off-ness, some of which I think was because there were other women in that collective who would just as soon slept with George. Really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4484.04,4518.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can kind of feel a sense of jealousy. I always felt there was some of that going on too. It's just crazy. But I feel like human sexuality is on a continuum. People may shift and change around that. They may have feelings that they never act on. I would say in terms of my own process, I'm like Jimmy Carter, I have lust in my heart for others. I think I've had lust in my heart for one man in the last thirty years besides my husband, Georgie. But there are quite a few women I could have imagined riding off into the sunset with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4518.53,4570.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's who I am. But we have those letters in that great long list of the alphabet list now, and I think because I often introduce myself — I let new people in my life know who I am and who I've been with in my life. It's almost always awkward to announce that, because you have to announce it, otherwise the default assumption is that I'm someone I'm not. But I don't fit neatly anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4572.02,4606.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My AA sponsor is trans, and the things she lives with in the world are really, really tough. And so, out of respect for other folks, I make a choice to say that. Now, the “B” in that list is gratuitous. It's totally gratuitous. There's no “B” that anybody gives any respect to in that list. I don't think so. It doesn't seem to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4608.73,4642.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What would respect look like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4643.12,4645.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That's a feeling, that's a lack of tolerance. I understand the lack of tolerance. I think I know pretty well what that comes out of. I'm old enough to have remembered when there were black curtains over the windows in the doors of all the gay bars in Seattle, here, everywhere. How tough it was, how hard it was to \"lose somebody\" out of the community and stuff. I think I understand it, and still I think it is a failure of tolerance on some level. What was your question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4645.36,4683.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That's what I was asking you, is how you understand bisexual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4684.03,4689.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah. I think—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4689.32,4690.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: As that term of identity, how you feel about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4690.49,4692.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah, I would say it's there in the list, but it really doesn't exist. Not in the men's culture, not in the women's culture too much. Except with the kids. The younger people. It just doesn't matter in the same way. I think that's that. I don't have to live with the same issues that lesbians do, even now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4692.77,4719.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What do you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4719.35,4720.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Well, I'm with a guy. People do make an assumption that isn't always comfortable to me, but in the world, it can function.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4720.07,4729.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you give some examples of privilege?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4729.57,4732.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah. This is an example of privilege I think: If somebody's going to come over and do a repair on the house, or just comes to my door, like some guys did last month because the water company, the city water was doing something in the neighborhood and had to tell me about a turn-off. I could say to them, \"I don't know but my husband will be back in a while,\" and that was my signal, and you won't be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4732.48,4760.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can feel safer here because I'm going to tell you, another man that's going to enter this property, and you'll have to deal with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4761.87,4769.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not alone, in that way. So I think that's a way that it functions in the world. Or on the telephone, if you call. I can say, \"I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4770.34,4782.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can ask my husband about that.\" It's a signal that you fit in this slot, and nobody's going to consider certain things anymore. I think that's how it's always functioned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4784.66,4797.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: It's protection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4797.71,4800.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It is. Yeah, in a sense. My mother, when she divorced my father, she initiated the end of her marriage when I was ten, and our world changed radically because she no longer had my father there. She was a single woman in a neighborhood of people who are all hooked up with others. She was a dangerous woman from the day he moved out. We knew it. We could feel it. She was treated that way. She was very straight. But that's how it worked, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4800.44,4835.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Mm-hmm [affirmative].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4835.37,4841.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: My dear friends who are straight know that about me. But still, it's very different than being with my lesbian friends because I feel like they know all of me in a real way. I think my other girlfriends— well, they just don't know. They just don't know the life. They've probably never been even inside a gay bar these days. Or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4841.13,4865.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We don't go to gay bars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4865.92,4866.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4866.66,4866.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: We haven't in years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4866.94,4867.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where would you find one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4868.02,4871.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah. Those were the other great places to meet people and have community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4872.02,4878.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: There was a while there in San Francisco where lesbian was a thing of the past. No one said they were a lesbian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4878.22,4882.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: What did they say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4882.91,4884.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Queer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4884.24,4884.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4884.82,4886.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Queer. You were queer or fluid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4886.02,4888.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And you named your Sangha though, the Q Sangha. Queer Sangha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4888.36,4892.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah. Queer because there's so many letters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4892.61,4896.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Letters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4896.33,4897.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: So that's why it's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4897.18,4898.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: I had Linda say them last night, and there were like eight or nine letters. I didn't even know what the last three stood for. I was, “Wow.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4898.54,4904.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: An A is allies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4904.65,4906.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: More power to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4906.42,4906.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I love that one. It's like, actually anyone can come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4906.58,4909.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: More power to you. Yeah, the LBGTB AA meeting in Port Townsend is, “And the people who love them.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4909.54,4918.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah, there you go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4918.77,4920.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: So, whoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4920.37,4921.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Adding these different letters, and “A” being alliance is absolutely wonderful. Back in the ‘70s, that would never, we would never have thought about that, that we needed allies. Growing up in San Francisco for all those years, we came to understand that the only way things were going to really change lawfully was if everyone wanted it, including everyone. That's how things happened. The other side of that was that lesbian became—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4923.95,4957.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Who's that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4958.02,4958.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: —became antiquated. The other cute story I want to say about living in San Francisco for so long, when we were deciding to move, and I was donating to Saint Vinnie's a lot, the guys would come over and take the stuff that we were donating. And at one point, one of the guys said to me, \"Oh, this is a really nice piece of furniture. Does your husband know you're giving this away?\" And I went, \"Yeah. Yeah, it's not a problem.\" Before they left, he came to me and apologized that he thought I had a husband. That's very San Francisco.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4958.52,4996.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did he? Oh, not even knowing, he apologized?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4996.3,4999.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Well, he apologized because he looked at the rest of the house, and all the tchotchkes and pictures and whatever. That's very San Francisco. “I'm sorry that I assumed you had a husband.” That's pretty cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=4999.06,5014.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And so now we're going to go— well, we've done this forever. The four of us travel together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5014.86,5022.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5022.53,5023.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5023.94,5024.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I know it's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5024.81,5027.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: It's ten years this, ten years that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5027.11,5028.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Something else I can say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5028.53,5029.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Then we go, \"Oh, we have to go here, we have to go there.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5029.71,5030.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: When Linda's parents would come and visit, who are very Jewish New Yorkers, God bless them, and we would be sitting in a restaurant, the four of us, many times we would be laughing and having a good time. And people would come up to us and say to me and Linda, \"Are you sisters? Are you cousins? What's going on here?\" Irvin, her father, at the time would go, \"Idiot.\" We'd go, \"No, we're not.\" So that's the other side of it. And he would go, \"Idiot.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5030.79,5063.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Who did he mean was the idiot?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5064.3,5066.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Them for saying, \"What, are you, cousins?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5067.5,5069.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5069.48,5070.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: But that's the assumption.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5070.2,5071.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5071.74,5072.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Two women together must be sisters or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5072.31,5074.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: And then M's father was a jewelry setter, right? Is a diamond setter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5075.0,5080.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5080.31,5080.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5080.72,5081.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5081.29,5081.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: In kind of a Jewish neighborhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5081.86,5086.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Industry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5086.56,5087.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Industry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5087.43,5088.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5088.27,5088.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: In New York, ended up making the rings, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5088.69,5094.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5094.45,5094.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: For Beulah, for Linda's mom and her second husband.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5094.79,5097.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: And she has that ring. We got married with that ring. He passed away last year. So you see, it all works out. It all works out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5098.16,5105.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, given that perspective on like, you could imagine a young person watching this interview. What might you tell them about life? Or advice to give?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5106.12,5118.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Read poetry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5118.4,5119.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5119.95,5121.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Why? Because it's intimate speech, and we have too few opportunities to speak to each other in our most intimate voices. It's a way to go inside your life, which is in fact a much larger than your singular life. You can find all that in poetry. You can find worlds upon worlds in poetry. Read more poetry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5122.01,5152.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: I would say love yourself, that it's all okay, and that there's simply more unity here than you think. And be kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5152.39,5162.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: You are so, my guru.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5164.2,5166.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Actually, that's from Ellen. You could hear her say that every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5167.04,5170.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5170.44,5171.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Be kind to one another. But there's a reason. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5171.04,5173.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Ellen DeGeneres?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5173.97,5174.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5174.4,5175.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, that's so funny. That's so you, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5176.18,5178.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5178.83,5179.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: That's so you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5179.76,5179.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5180.06,5183.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5183.03,5183.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picariello: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568#t=5183.23,5183.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56367/file/130568/transcript/92604/annotation/658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hunt: Oh, thank you. 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