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William Klein. Okay. Go ahead. I was just saying, you know, that's not really what we're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=4.89,12.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, I did not get my stuff. Go ahead. And you are right now. Yeah. Okay, we're talking about, you know, but that is for some much you. You some great things in there, actually, because the whole point was the. 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Oh, I'm from Mexico, would you give me your autograph? You have a lot of friends in Mexico and places. 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The scarecrow Liston was owned by some sort of mafia. These are actually two plantations, but plantations on a 1964 scale. And then everything was polarized around the whole country, identified with one and the other. You know, they saw and this to the the menace when he fought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1022.91,1048.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Patterson, they saw. Clay a menace when he fought Liston. And Liston was a hero. 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Well, I like the whole process I thought was very indicative of so many things and all these people. It's like a passion play, you know, they're all symbols, walking symbols. And so since, well, I started cards because I have my own ideas about these things. And in a way I think. I think I'm right about them, I mean, as far as I'm concerned. But anyhow. 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But how did you how did you translate this and then into your approach to him and what you were looking for and how you were going to work to get it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1114.53,1131.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did I do in in juxtaposition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1132.09,1133.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And editing and also the uses of lenses and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1134.77,1137.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And things make comments on themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1139.0,1140.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I guess it's like the editing. The second film, for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1142.33,1144.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Example, he was. Well, he has the hernia and the hernia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1145.0,1149.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Immediately became, you know, this new bit going throughout America, television, radio discussions all over the place, headlines the whole sort of cliche that you see in the old films, like in the like in Fury, you know, John. Jim called Fritz Lang's films where this man is, is brought in trial, you know, for being the kidnaper. 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I always thought that people reveal themselves by the self-portrait in the, the auto auto portray.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1240.12,1248.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You let people take the as do they want to take. And it's a usually revealing attitude and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1250.05,1255.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e So I as a photographer I always and I thought it was interesting to establish the photographer model relationship and let these people have their own the head.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1258.12,1269.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And by using a certain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1270.42,1271.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Set of lenses and sort of framing, my commentary would be there. But at the same time, the. And the commentary in the same way that Steinberg, when he does drawings. As one said that when he he wants to draw a from the person he was, he can use a thick vocal line some sort of confused person who can use crosshatching and stipple. And if he wants to do a sort of vague little child, he goes a big circle with this tiny little line for a nose and eyes. And I think visually you can do this. But the thing there are certain subjects which do call for a wide angle lens and sort of distortion, a certain sort of the telephoto thing. I mean, oh, you're looking for an interpretation through the, through the form. 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Because these people I agree very much in in a mixture of raw material and sophisticated style and. I think it's valid. Faced with a situation where which is unpredictable, as you would still be, but even in the scenes with the actors, you are not able to know what exactly was going to happen. How do you reconcile your your search for a style with the event as it's going on, with your apprehension of the event at the same time that you're filming? 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The sort of thing that I mean, I've been a painter, you know, for ten years, and I work in graphic things and design and design and composition and things like that. They come pretty fast and natural to me, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1380.6,1401.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I can say what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1403.79,1404.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I want very rapidly. I don't have to think too much. But how to get some sort of effect that to me. Well, say what I want about a given thing. You give the situation of these actors. I do control it to a certain extent, and knowing that I'm going to use a sensor lens, I got to light it in a certain way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1405.14,1431.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Because these were lit and these were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1432.12,1433.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e The the setting was sort of worked out. Yeah, yeah. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1435.48,1442.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And once you establish a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1443.19,1445.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Framework to the things that happen within that framework. That is of course surprise and. And beyond my control. But I'm often.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1445.17,1464.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Very happily surprised. And I didn't see what happens there. I mean, what if you set up a situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1465.39,1470.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Something happened. Well. Whatever happened to that belongs to the people. And since they have the subject, I'm perfectly happy in and confronted with the problem of filming something as it's happening. Put it grossly filming in reality, which is the terror we did, which gets us into this semantic problem. But do you take a particular attitude? These are the subject. For instance, Leacock tries to put himself in the corner. He tries to be face himself. What I do in question is what can I do, I guess. Well, I hope you have. Well, I guess it was mostly in reaction to I don't know. No reaction to like no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1472.12,1524.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Reaction to company, obviously, for example, because actually we Lecoq is just bad company of his own. But. 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But if the if to if the if one does something in reaction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1545.21,1555.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e To what is being done. When I did my book on York, if there was one extant sort of photography and that was documented photography, that was Celtic, but somewhere the photography is supposed to be objective. 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This is this is something that you even underlined with the accused to take the French word in New York through your montage and your meat on thighs and you, you, you accentuated your subjective viewpoint. Yeah. Because I thought well on this and is printing. Yeah. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1585.68,1607.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the pudding sometimes comes out of. I lose control of because when you, the actual photos aren't exactly the way they look, the way they're printed. And, and that's the sort of choice you have to make because of the graphic printing. The cad good with great tones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1608.82,1626.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e If you have good blacks, it can be good. Last year. Good, great. So I chose the good blacks and the good whites and contrast. And the grain is accentuated because of the printing process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1627.06,1636.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But I mean the actual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1637.29,1637.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Photos aren't as good and but I didn't mind that. I mean, you have to make some sort of compromise with the printing. And in fact, it's closer, perhaps, to the result. A book of that sort is closest to the job in the film, because managed as a film probably thinks that he controls the elements on the film, but he he forgets that this film is projected in shitty movie houses all over the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1638.07,1663.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you can hardly see the film. And so the the result is, all right, 5 or 6 projections in Paris or New York, but 90% of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1664.21,1674.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e The projection of the film is is probably.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1674.47,1676.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The exact opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1680.56,1681.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Of what he wanted to get. And he probably should have. We knew how the film looked. And in small towns, you. Know, I mean, this happens to the. There's. There's sort of a I'd like to have your you your ideas on on this particular particular subject. I want to profit from your having made the change from photo to film. Not that you abandoned one, but you've begun to make films. I'd like to hear your comments on how you feel. Photo is structured and relates to it and relates to the to the spectator. The person who looks on it read in the sense how the spectator read a photo. In your opinion, how do you how do you look to operate on the on the viewer in the film and how you. Work on the structure of your film is also in the photo, as well as in the structure and the temporal structure of it. I think there's a and I want to find out what you find different. Well, the only difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1681.61,1766.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is a big difference is that you have a captive audience. We make a film, and I've always felt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1767.34,1771.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e That nobody read the photo. I mean, very few people do. And and if they do, I haven't had much contact with them. I've always felt that making photography is a little bit like writing and hieroglyphics. So few people have been read into that. It's it's well, it's frustrating if you're very much occupied about having people react to the photos you take, and I guess everybody is taking photos to show to people, but I. I find that. Outside of a few people who video in prison photography, nobody really looks at pictures and they look at a photographic book. They just flip the pages and and all the trouble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1771.69,1826.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You take to make a a layout and make the book coherent and make things relate to each other and say things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1826.94,1833.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And develop and so on, is. There is a sort of I mean, maybe I'm an exceptional case who because of my background, but I sort of learned a lot about movies by looking at your work at Western Country, about some work and Frank Capra's work. Frank Capra, Robert Frank. Of a Frank's work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1833.81,1865.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And but I think, I think that I think the token movies are the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1866.18,1873.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, all these things are the same thing. What principles in the in them, then, that you're able to apply to a temporal structure because it does pose other problems. Well, the temporal structure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1873.35,1884.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I always considered photography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1885.48,1886.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e As a book, really, and I never really was interested in the individual photo. Because what do you mean? What can you do with an individual photo? You sell it to a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1887.34,1894.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Magazine and they printed it, and they printed maybe a double page or quote of the page opposite in that with text underneath it. So the photo doesn't really exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1894.48,1903.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And holding the photo in your hand is a drag anyhow. And having an exhibition, nobody really wants to see a photographic exhibition, but I do. So I did think that the in a way with as a way of using photos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1904.08,1916.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I really never took photos outside of of the books that I did. I always wanted to. I mean, unless it was a on an assignment to make money and. Otherwise the serious photos I did were oh would always in view of a a layout.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1916.89,1936.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And a development and. And in a way, if you think book terms and you're thinking also, it's a little bit like a movie that that very often films it. I mean, for those that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1937.2,1955.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I take, I think this is a double page at certain point. And I had I did the book on the orca had chapters already before I started. I knew I was going to have chapters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1955.18,1962.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And to them that way, and when I filmed things, I knew that I had to have it a certain sort of theme, even when I was doing those films and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1964.18,1972.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Improvization reality, I mean, things going on, and I would have the impression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1975.52,1981.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e That this can be an opening shot, this can be this, this, and in a way, sort of it. And it's funny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1981.91,1989.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When you take photos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1989.95,1990.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's say for that, for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1993.61,1994.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Something going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1996.1,1996.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e You, there's a certain point when you stop and you say, oh, well, I had to have it. And. I found that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=1997.45,2005.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When I was filming something and all the junk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2005.41,2008.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e That you can accumulate on the improvization of an event. There was a moment when I said, oh, well, that's it. I had it, but I have whatever I have. But I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2008.98,2019.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Had the idea that I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2020.81,2021.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Have a finished film that I can edit. Having that is about as good as I can do within a certain limit, because obviously you can film for five years subject and still never have it. And and maybe it's worthwhile to film five years for a given subject, but there is a point where you can wrap it to wrap something up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2021.79,2041.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But I've had the same feeling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2042.46,2044.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Taking one photo, filming a thing. And. I don't know the way I look at everything, the way that you move it is very much like the only thing is movies are better because. For those so expendable. And. The such difficult currency. A movie is a real good hard currency.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2045.22,2070.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If you have something to say. And you said people in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2071.48,2077.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e The dark house, you show it and you put music and everything is. Time and and different speeds and. And you have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2077.659,2091.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you can say that means more explicit people do. I think in a way feudalism. You can say a hell of a lot in the photo. But and I've heard this so few people again and who can dig it and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2091.94,2102.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And so, so hard to count anything nowadays if you. If you expect people to be able to concentrate on the positive flipping around. It's it. It's a lot to expect. And I myself. I could be looking at photos and the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2104.42,2126.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Music is going and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2126.99,2127.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And somebody is. Coming into the room and going out and there's noise and some sort of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2129.87,2138.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Play and I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2138.36,2138.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Dig the photo, but I really am not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2139.56,2142.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Concentrating the way I would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2144.03,2145.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e If I was seeing a film in a photo book. You have a progression, but nevertheless it's a progression through a series of fixed images and with the image more or less, it operates independently despite its relationship to a lot of photos. But when you're working on a film, you have a frame that is 24 60s beyond the paraphrase. 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But you have an evolution in a in a shot which separated in the time. And this imposes other kinds of compositional problems, which seems to me problems of composition. To to make your come, especially if you're trying to sketch things out so that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2168.73,2203.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know. Good is. Is very or not completely right. Because if you're taking photos of something going on, you probably only see one photo. 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But you're going to select 1 or 2.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2258.62,2266.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But in the photo you select 1 or 2.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2266.96,2268.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e In the movie you you don't select 1 or 2. It's like 200, let's say a given, you know, 200 or 500, you can give them a scene. 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Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2292.16,2295.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not so much a miracle to get 500.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2296.32,2297.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Photos of a given scene. 500 good photos. The movie is always much easier because things move and you're attracted to them, and the sequence moves you. A good photo which contains all of this is so rare that practically inexistent you know what you're saying, that the a really good photo is one that somehow sums up in one image the feeling of the yeah, it's it is a freak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2298.35,2325.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And it doesn't really happen very much in the way it's good not to depend on freaks, and it's better to be I know it's better not to expect to get this, this great image. I mean, a good photo is a little bit like free poetic image. How many are there? 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What when you when you had to grapple with the problem with film? What came to your mind? What consultation? What observation could you make when you were trying to work with with material that you would take in order to structure it and say, yes, this is complete and this works? Actually, I had to. Did you find? Did you discover that other principles were operative? Yes, I realize I've been comparing it to good photography simply by.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2374.8,2422.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Comparing and not really explaining what I felt about photography or when I think about movies. I mean, I was going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2423.05,2429.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e To answer that. So much easier for me to do a film than do a photographic book, so much less work to film because the impressions of it. 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And it's so difficult to to get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2451.19,2461.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e This thing together in the book. It always has. It's going to that. Nobody really read it. I understand that you really want to, but anyhow. So the problem with the film. I don't know, it's all these things are so arbitrary. 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Because it's like playing on a piano.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2485.46,2499.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Not having work with a recorder or something like that. But, you know, many people criticize Menzel's work for lacking structure. And as I said, it's just a suite of of incidents. The person found that he's not been able to bring this into into focus in some way or another. 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Right. But I would very much like to see. The rushes of the males or anybody, but they want to put a film together because if they want to do an abstract film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2547.81,2561.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e It'd be interesting. I would like to see it. 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And this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2578.44,2583.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the impression is like diarrhea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2583.75,2584.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And some sort of visual diary. You feel it, you feel it. There's really no need to respect this kind of links that they tend to, to like to let things run on and on and on. No, no, I'm against that. I'm very brutal with my own material I cut. I. I find that the best material, the richest stuff I cut the most really. 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You don't have to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2615.17,2619.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e 35 seconds because of the effect. Well, I really don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2620.33,2622.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e How these things work. I mean, there's some sort of gift ready and to put together film material. 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Good. And that's about all you can do. I have nothing against the things that are formless. I try to put some sort of, but I think formless things can be good also. I have no prejudices about men. Well, I was thinking, you see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2848.19,2873.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Leacock and Maysles, both intent on the Leacock, tends to want to structure. Yeah, well, his structuring is a crappy Hollywood structure. You know, we go from one place to another. 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Of things which, outside the classical artistic traditions, there are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2957.65,2966.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Classical artistic traditions and movies, you know this Eisenstein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2966.89,2969.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e And and good editing and that sort of thing. 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From with which one can make a very inventive editing edit piece.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=2998.33,3009.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Very often refuse to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3011.16,3012.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Use that surprising the the intimidated by their own non-classical material. What? 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But the thing is, you're always nostalgic about the things you're not doing. A if I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3095.56,3098.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e A film like that, I would like very much to do once more, I think, where I'm not responsible really for. For putting people in such a situation, which is either. 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Well, I think all these things. Interesting. And it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3128.61,3135.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Might be good ideas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3135.9,3136.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e To go from one to the other. And. In a way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3137.03,3144.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've always been distorting and directing reality. But I guess that's what everybody does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3145.01,3150.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, if somebody paints a painting and distorting them and directly in reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3150.47,3155.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The only thing is people consider that photography as an inferior medium. 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Perhaps I'm underlining it or exaggerating it, character doing it, but not falsifying it, I think. Any liberties. Bespoke to the. Somebody really has something to say about something, but we're going to do that. Are you conscious of certain themes in this film that you wish to do? You know what I'm doing now. You know, my cut is a certain situation. Exactly. Certain things that you're after that if you want to try. Well, I hope so. Otherwise, in writing it, other than just directing a story and making a film or certain things that you hope to accomplish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3207.93,3257.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. I think everything that I've been doing is in this film, only more so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3258.91,3263.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e With more control. Could you could you explain what the story is? I mean, the story is. It's called kid who. Poly move. Yeah. Blue block party. Magoo. Oh, yeah. That's what they want. Okay. And it's a story of a girl as a model. 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Someone who was with each one lives and there's a, there's a sort of a tension.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3422.95,3430.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, very de.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3432.19,3432.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Style of the example of the imagination of this man who works in television and everything he sees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3433.69,3439.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He sees all these cliches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3440.86,3441.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Of mass media, for example, and he can concentrate on nothing. And you keep seeing things in terms of. Fixed approaches. The girl has another sort of. Way of seeing things and living things and feeling things which is also similar. The prince is a figment of his own imagination, and he is a figment of whatever figment of somebody's imagination. But.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281#t=3443.44,3480.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262281/transcript/76710/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm so sick of summarizing it for now. I'm the point of doing it. 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You're on. Ha ha ha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=6.36,10.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Five, six, seven, oh, he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=23.57,25.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, he can do 10 texts if it's a complicated... Well, what kind of alterations does he give? 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First of all, in this film, as in many of the films, they make up the dialog as they go on. Sorry, he gives you some vague indications, but a little bit like you, I mean, more so. Oh, yeah. You remember? I mean I remember what you told me about the way you did, at least in the early years. He, um, he'll tell you... About two or three words of what you're supposed to say, and you're suppose to make the rest up. And I say, well, what do I say after that? And they say, well, you keep on kind of talking along that line. Is that what he said? He said that to you? Yeah, well, in this particular case, I'm playing, uh, well it doesn't make any sense to me the details, but, um, he gives me two lines. He gives me 2 words than I'm supposed to say, and I'm suppose to talk for about a minute and a half. What was the 2 words? I'm not the center of the, Jolly Good, he told me. 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If you go through a scene and even dialog apart, or acting apart, he doesn't seem to see the details, you know, he's thinking. He's very abstract, you see. You know, through it the first time, and you think, Jesus, you want to do this or change that or something. He's happy with it. 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He did one take on me. When going through on the first take, I see him starting to go on top, making just the I don't know where you got that from. I can't understand it. I think what he's saying, you know, when I'm in the middle of saying something I'm supposed to figure out with this guy, he's giving me new suggestions for dialog as the scene is being shot. 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But the rest of it he works at the most when he gives you a dialog, with the exception of the rare. Written passage. He works the way you do. He doesn't show it to them. He tells them what to say. And even then, he doesn't give all the details. He shoots it bit by bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=355.89,383.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And how, one of the things that's interesting, because I ran up against it. I was doing a lot of, I was profiting from my fate. I don't know if you knew I was invited as a visiting lecturer at UCLA film school. And they asked me to stay on. I told them, no, I better get back to my own business. 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Re? Re. Re. L-U-I. Re, him. It's France's answer to Playboy. It's an imitation of Playboy, it's a straight imitation of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=512.71,552.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry, I'm a cinema professional, thank you. I had a very, a very difficult one. What's my issue? I'm trying to think. It was March. March. 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Approach the problem of how they get along with the actors and the non-actors as well. Because I think that the same problem is being solved. I think I felt that in you. Although you take very well-seasoned actors. You manage to release something other than the actor or the actor's play. That's why I absolutely wanted to see you. You see, this book touches on this problem of how to make the... The substance, the actor or the substance of the play, is as real as possible. Not in the real sense of Clément, but it's a kind of material that exists. And finally, through this material, something happens that is in the group, which is not real, but rather poetic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=578.37,667.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, nothing. Nothing beyond that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=669.19,671.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So, that's the problem I'm asking. What interested me first was... You wrote once that a good way of employing Constantine was like a... Like a miner's combiner. He's always been a fan like, like, uh, uh... A romantic type, an adventurous type. So you wanted to reverse things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=672.09,707.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Non, je pense à une première chose, il faut leur faire faire des... When you look at people in the street that you don't know at all, there are some that you're interested in and others that you aren't. And those that you are interested in, it's because you find that they have something all of a sudden, a way of walking, a way to laugh, or something that makes you notice them while others don't. You can look at them for a long time. All I'm trying to do is make the spectator be in the... This feeling that he wants to look at and that interests him. Because there are several ways. In cinema, the spectator is interested because of the story. But I think that all stories are more or less valid. It depends on who lives them and how they live them. As soon as someone puts a nail in it, it must be fascinating or extraordinary. If the guy who does it is extraordinary, we'll find out. I think that's what I'm trying to do. And I think with actors, it's more normal to do it with actors than with non-actors, since non-actor, theoretically, are not made for that. It's like war. When you hire a soldier... First, we take the one who pulls well and the one that doesn't pull well, and then we try to make the one pulling well add all these qualities to the fact that he knows how to pull well. Don't forget, it's not because he's a soldier that he has a uniform that he should forget all that he does and all that does his interest. An actor is the same. It's not because he's an actor that he's paid to make a film that he has to forget his life, because it's the same thing. Even the moment where he lives the most, it will be the moment when he will be recorded, so that's it. Yes, so... So for a non-professional, I think... You have to look for other things for a professional. You can look for... I don't know that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=710.0,849.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Barrenois said that the actor had to be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=851.4,853.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Bruno is different, he makes acts. If he takes a non-professional, he takes it because he is an actor. He reveals himself as an actor, he directs in a way that is not at all like Bresson when he takes on a non professional. I believe that if Bressons takes on non-actors, it is because... He's looking for something else, he's looking to take people at the very beginning. Without experience. Like Rousseau, he thought that man was good, naturally. Without any trace of civilization, nothing at all. And so if he takes it, it's a bad thing. It's for the same reason that I take actors. It's easier. There's already a part of my work that's done. Since he's an actor, there's already part of his work that is done. Since they are non-actors. If they took real actors, they should first bring them to the condition of non-actor. Since there are many in the street, there is no need to... But at the same time, they don't take anyone as a non- actor. It's not neorealism at all. And again, when many people took non- actors, Italians, for example, everyone knows how to play in Italy. In France, nobody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=854.88,928.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You wrote an article about it, in 1957, about the actor's employment. It was good material, but poorly used.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=929.89,941.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Often, because there are people we like and people we don't like, but it's not always enough. Eddie Constantine is not an actor, but he is someone who has a presence on the screen. If you put four people in motion without doing anything, one next to the other, and among them Eddie Constantines, it will probably be Eddie Constanitne that we will look at. If we put you, me, or like that, everyone will say, look at this one as he is. Well, that's something. You just have to use this, look at this as it is, and then add, what is it doing, so that only people say, look this as he is, then you see, what he is doing, that interests them. That's it, it's just something, it happened to create an object, it is like painting or sculpture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=942.44,989.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't think it's difficult to get these people on the move, these people that we want to look at, that we look at as an object?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=994.05,1000.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm always surprised by the fact that we can't do what we want. And maybe it's not so bad, because if we can do it... There are people like Renoir or Bresson who arrive. Each one has really arrived little by little at what they want, eliminating everything else. I can't at all. I say, you walk like that and he doesn't walk like this. I say you laugh there and he does not want to laugh. And every time I'm struck by the existence of him outside of me. Be good or bad, so I try to use this existence and myself to model around it, but which continues to exist. It's not just the film, and finally the idea that we have of the film is nothing, it's a few lines, it's good that he has them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1001.29,1046.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This is one of the things I've observed in your films that I find absolutely remarkable. In the end, it's contempt. For me, it is the best film by Brigitte Bardot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1047.56,1057.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's possible, it is possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1058.73,1061.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e El exista...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1062.24,1062.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but this girl exists. There are other girls who exist less than her. She exists and has her own personality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1062.9,1068.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How come it was at the other side?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1070.07,1071.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's like what Constantine said, for me it's the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1072.68,1075.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Gotta come and hug you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1076.79,1077.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's even easier. If she did so many bad things, just don't make her do them. It's not that she can do a lot of things. It's that she's able to do some of them. You shouldn't try to make her other things. At one point, I remember, she entered the room and I said to her, Oh, the curtains haven't been put yet. And then, I don't know, she had an attitude with her hand. So I said to her, you do it again. She did it again, it was very bad. Because she played it, she didn't know how to play it. Another actress would have known, but not her. So I told her, don't say that, say something else. And she did it, and it went well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1077.43,1123.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Because she found it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1123.99,1125.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e She thought about it, but she couldn't play it again, she had to think about what she was doing, and do it, and that it would be good. She is like she is. What you need is for her to be able to keep it as she is, not to put it in things. It's a very different job with another actor, on the contrary, where you have to make him do it like a pianist who repeats until he knows his movement perfectly. There are other actors, they can't, they have to... That's the most difficult thing, because there are actors who are good at the 7th or 8th rehearsal and then at the 8th take and then there are others who, as soon as there are 5 or 6, they become less and less good, because they invent nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1125.36,1172.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So, did you find ways to reinvent it? Because, for example, I felt that you had...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1174.64,1180.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's always a special case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1180.17,1181.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e For example, Jack Palance. Did you have any difficulties with him? I felt that he was a guy who didn't know what I was doing. It was a guy who didn't know what he was doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1186.21,1194.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Because he was very stupid. He was very unpleasant. He was a spoiled child. I mean, he sounded like that. I tried to explain it to him at first, but he didn't want to understand. He didn't try, and it bothered him very quickly. But anyway, he was good on his physique. That was enough for me. He wanted to play, in addition. So with the physique he has... In the situation he was in, he didn't need to play, just the fact that he was there was already part of the game. He didn't understand that, so I would often make empty shots of him. I would say, let's do one, and for me it was okay, and then I would do one or two so that he would be happy. But the camera didn't even work, we made him believe that it worked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1194.04,1240.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you are all here at his presence? I am...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1243.01,1245.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I was only satisfied with his presence. He is as he is in life. He could very well be a film producer in Italy. Three months later, he has a painting gallery in Athens. At one point he's an actor, at another he's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1244.9,1265.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't have the impression of acting on your actors or interpreters in a certain way? No, I don't think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1269.92,1282.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Finally, I always say it, and then I do it less and less, no. That is to say, I don't say to them, do something, I say to... I would like him to find at the same time as me. That's the most difficult part. He finds what he has to do, and then suddenly I say, that's good, we're going to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1282.63,1304.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But, uh, yeah, Renoir also said that we need to find the scene together, I think, when I speak. But, um... Yes, but Renoir is working...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1305.73,1315.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e He's a real director of actors, it's like Bergman or Kukor. He's someone who works, who pushes intonations in their own way, with their psychology, but who manages to make the actor give himself a lot. Actors like that at all. I like them because they feel good on the screen afterwards, but they don't like to work a lot either. I mean, because I don't tell them anything, but rather I engage them, I tell them, no, not that, but they don't know why, but me neither, I just have a feeling. They tell me, you don't say anything to me, and I say, no but I don' know nothing, I can tell you when it will be good, but I can't tell you. I can not tell you what to do for it to be good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1316.99,1358.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, what you're saying brings me back to my feelings when I watch your films. I have always been remarkable about this angle of independence, a certain lack of confidence in the human being himself, which makes, in a sense, well, especially in Living His Life and A Married Woman, a kind of independence between the camera and the character. We don't feel that it's a big deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1360.12,1391.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1392.03,1392.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So, I want to search a little bit more. All of a sudden, a married woman, are you saying the married woman or the married one? The married woman. Because I lived in England. And all of a sudden, there's this scene that pops out, which is, after these scenes, restrained and introspective, there's the scene of the woman, the housewife. It's extraordinary. So, if you want, I'd like to... To simply give the idea of maybe one of your approaches, and maybe unconscious, how you arrived at this scene starting with your first contact with the actress or the actor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1394.17,1446.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no, it was purely... That was almost done technically. I wanted to make Céline say a text because I thought I needed a certain way of speaking French that was different from the other ways of the woman, of the child and all that. A more open way, a more popular way of talking French. And Célyne matched me well. And finally we took a... We thought of two or three actresses and we took on a figure who was completely terrified. You found her? No, I said, well, you'll be the good one. She said she was delighted to be the one. We gave her three passes from Céline to take by heart. She was crazy. She was dead. And in the end, it was done. And she's a bit crazy too, a bit weird. I don't know, she can be a hairdresser or whatever, or a barmaid, I don' know what, but I don't know what she does, I think she's very... And what we did, since she was unable to learn by heart, the more she learned, the harder it was to mix the rest. That's a very difficult text. So, in the end, I blew out the text. She had a small earphone in her ear, and I had a HF microphone. And I was blowing her, and she was repeating it. But even that, she had so much track, that she was often not... She was repeating badly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1446.66,1549.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. Tintex, do you sell ink?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1549.7,1550.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Styly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1551.28,1551.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, the thing about how to make love is this one, where you talk about notes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1552.43,1556.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e In the kitchen, in the kitchen. Yes, yes, yes. These are excerpts from Céline's text.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1557.48,1563.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I had the impression that it was improvised.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1564.17,1565.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's so bad that it becomes something else. It would have been better to have a sublime actress or someone not very good. Because a sublime actress would have made the effects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1567.379,1582.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You're blowing me away, that's fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1583.08,1584.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e We were breathing and she was repeating. I told her to just take the cups and put them there, then take the knives and repeat what I said. But she was so weird. Sometimes she stopped abruptly, so I was breathing desperately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1584.88,1602.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But he did that with so many, I don't know, nine...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1605.74,1608.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I think she's so bad that it brings back a certain tone, yes, she has a certain personality in her genre. She says sentences all of a sudden on a tone that we can't, that we cannot invent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1609.38,1621.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I will give you no more conditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1623.1,1624.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Des choses à faire et un texte à dire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1628.45,1630.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It was the scene that had the greatest success in English, the people were on the ground. Ah, well, we loved it. Me too, yes, it was crazy. I went to see the film twice in a row because I liked it a lot, this film, it's fantastic. And I love my film. This is an extraordinary thing, certainly for a non-actress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1630.34,1652.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, well, no, I don't think it's...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1654.11,1655.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Come to gear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1658.42,1659.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I often compare the war, but I think it's the same. You give a guy who has never... There are machine guns that shoot. If it's a question of life or death, you have to run, he runs fast. And then you are suddenly surprised by this huge guy who was dragging himself. Suddenly, how he runs like a rabbit. I mean, it's kind of that. There are times when... Moi c'est ça que j'aime bien plutôt, placer les gens dans des moments comme ça où ils sont... I don't know if it's good or bad, but it exists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1661.1,1693.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't find that... What's going on here? Attention. You don' t find that there are problems, for example, to make movement. In your performance with Bardo and Piccoli, the big one stands in the room, where she moves continuously. These are movements to be regulated, extremely. So I never had the feeling, as I have with Bado in other films, that it's concerted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1696.95,1723.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e No, because she is graceful, she is natural, she walks well, she lives well when we give her something natural. All I know is that it is a natural thing. If it is easier for her to sit on a chair rather than on another, we look to see if it is okay for the camera. These are things that are natural to her, a movement that understands the meaning of movement. You go here and look for that ... Then you go get some cigarettes here. Then, when you need a lighter, you look over there. You know the lighters are over there, so you go. So there's a logic to it. It's very simple. 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It's tense because we don't know what we're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1788.53,1791.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e A Sacré-Dé.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1792.81,1793.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That makes you an amateur.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1793.71,1794.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what made me grow as a palance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1797.34,1800.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I think so, because they thought we were doing nothing. And then when he came to see Oude Plans, he found that it was well photographed. He said, it's not bad. But they didn't understand at all. American actors in general work only... You have to explain everything psychologically. They are very good, but I can't do it. I mean, you really have to tell them... If you sit there and you think this, if you think that, it's because you come from Harwood and if you don't come from West Point, or I don't know, if you were born in such a place, so that's how you have to react, you are a sudist, you're against it, so at such a moment...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1801.3,1845.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If you want to explain that, go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1846.46,1847.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e There are actors I like a lot, but if you go crazy like that, I've seen Arthur Penn work, even him, who likes to work like that a lot. I've also seen Warren Beatty, who is really... Yes, he told me. It's not possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1847.37,1860.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e BT seems to have missed the special tickets. No, and also...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1861.65,1864.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e And in addition to that, we were adding him, he missed the takes on purpose, he was really the great actor Stanislavski, or something like that. But even naturally, he does that because he believes that it is necessary to do that. It's even because his stupidity and his wickedness come from his naivety. We tell him, to light a cigarette, it just lights up. I don't want to tell them, I don' t want to talk for hours. If they ask me why I don't light it up, I can't tell them why. Yes, you light it, or no, you turn it on. We decide, and now we do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1864.38,1896.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Precisely, I spoke with Penn, we had lunch together, and I showed him the ideas, I wanted to know what he thought of the ideas for this book. I said, I'm talking about the idea of Nanook, which I finally said, Nanook is a non-actress or a character.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1899.28,1922.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Flaherty rehearsed a lot of his performances. I'm sure he rehearsed the movement of the harpoon like a real actor. And Moana, it's very clear. It's pure staging. It's staging like a Broadway theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1922.03,1937.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but Flaherty, of course, with Nanook, had the advantage that when Nanook went to look for the morse, you mean the egg or the weapon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1937.99,1944.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1944.1,1944.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, it was a real mask, there was this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1944.69,1948.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e No, but he knew the movements he had to do, but Flaherty told him to do this one rather than that one, do it faster or things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1949.11,1958.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When I spoke with Penn, I said, finally, we have these two things in one, we've got the fiction, that is, the preparation and the conditions, and then we have this kind of thing that makes it no longer the fiction but the truth, because I said it's finally a real morse, and he has the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=1958.7,1975.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I think today that there is as much reality in fiction as there is fiction in reality. And even if you take Anthony Queen on the metro platform, or Nanook in the Grand Nord, I mean... What you need is to bring reality. When Tony Queen was on the set of La Metro, and then bring fiction to the North. That's all, because there is one that has a lot of reality, a lot fiction. 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But it was made on a true cinema film. It was only a psychoanalyst who interviewed people. It was red. It was the same film as red. I think it was done by KUKOR and Claire Bloom and Jane Fonda. But they were so good, they played so well. I don't know. It was the same thing. And the film was a monumental hit, also because it was proof that... A hit was what? It was film fiction. Yes, a failure. It was a film fiction, but so much so that it became cinema reality or truth,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2018.58,2063.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What I'm looking for is how to make this kind of link, this game between fiction and reality. 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If cinema or theater or painting exist, it's because reality is not enough for people. It's because there has to be a part of fiction. Poetry. An accident in the streets, you don't look at it. Or you look at, you approach. Why? Because there is fiction, there is death, suddenly something like that. But reality, what is it? Oh, hit that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2094.12,2124.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm trying to explain a little bit. It's on the actor's plan, or the interpreter's. Often, he falls into tics, into ways that come from the fact that it's still a game for him. 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Completely happening. She must be a reviewer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2160.759,2163.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's good, but you need a director's event. There's a film I liked a lot, it's called Alleluia Rehearsal. I think it's a very good film. It's based on the principle of happening. 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Then there was another guy, a German, who was in the class. I said, you're going to wait a long time, and then you started to look at him and tell him that it's exactly like Hitler in Germany. So he made his speech, I presented him as an actor, so his speech as he had repeated, it was like that, etc. And then, as soon as the kids in the class start asking him questions, he had to, all of a sudden, he breaks the shell, the shell and starts to really answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2176.8,2262.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2262.97,2262.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And then, the rest of the class knew well that it was a problem. 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In the Mepri maybe a little bit. There was a big scene, for me it was a scene, but that's all. After, no, it bothers me rather. In the last film I just made, there was no scene, it was almost an opening, but on a given frame. We don't understand anything at all. It's a very simple story, but since we don't tell it at all, I think we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2523.46,2553.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That brings me to a few questions. I want to know how you conceive. It's a ridiculous question, but I need to know. How do you think about the structure of your films? 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And yet he has a little bit of fatigue, and when he writes a note here he still thinks of the note that will be ten minutes later. The film is the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2631.05,2656.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Because... What do you want to give me? It's stuck. Alphaville. Which really... 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For me, Constantine is a character from Raymond Chandelaire. I like his novels a lot. Chandelair in his police novels, except that I put it in a science fiction frame. But it's the great novel of Thierry Noir that we discovered 20 years ago in France.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2723.88,2746.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e He feels that the beginning of your films establishes almost immediately the rhythmic bases and the tone of your music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2748.26,2759.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That's it. Then we move on to another level. For example... That's always where people come from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2759.3,2764.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The big plan of Anna at the beginning to live her life in the cinema.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2764.93,2769.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Always from the start, we give the tone. As in music, we say it's going to be in A minor or in G major. We always give the sound. If the film lives its life, it will be a film on the inside of someone very slow and that happens like that. 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No, we distribute the cards. And we say, here we have this card, and we're going to play this game now. 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It's a certain sense of rhythm. I did this one, for example, I did it more and more really without script. That is to say, before I always had a few scripts, but notes. There I did everything from head to toe, for the first time really, completely from head. I didn't use notes, I found a lot of notes, so I didn' t use them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2828.82,2855.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You said once that improvisation is finally found on this field, what we have already thought of. That too. Is it different here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2855.42,2864.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e C'est vivre, c'est créer. Filming is creating. It's created by filming. It's not having created, having an idea, giving yourself the summary of this idea on paper, and then trying to express it through staging, lighting. It's more like trying to create by filming, that is, instead of having a brush, colors and a canvas, we have people... We have people, a camera, like that, and let's try to create something. And then the rest of what has been created. 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We see a guy leaving in a car. The realistic side of things, the image realistic, is that we often tell ourselves where he is going. And then the three quarters of the film, when we take the car that arrives elsewhere. It all depends on the state of mind. If you are inside the head of the guy, you don't have to show him where the car is going. Obviously, if people don't think that, it's because it's not successful. So you can go on with something else. There are always films where you live your life. For example, we were clearly telling what was going on inside. It was the inner feeling of someone. I saw it from a distance. I saw a film from a long distance. But people still walked because there was no misunderstanding. People knew that it was the feeling of someone of himself who was treated in this film. They knew it from the beginning. They liked it or they didn't like it, but they knew it. The film I just made is the inner feel, but we only see the outside without stopping. So I think it will be more difficult for people. Because everything comes one after the other, but through poetry, through thoughts, and these are poetic sequences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=2918.33,3003.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Dans quel sens? Comme dans Femmes mariées avec les couples du journaux ou...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3004.73,3008.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e More like that, more like that. For me, it's a normal sequence, the cuts in the newspaper, the false ones like that because it's... It's a regular sequence, it is thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3009.38,3018.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So, does that also explain the shot that fascinated me, which may last two seconds in Averville, in a shot, at the beginning, in a... In a cool voice, the IBM, the mechanical voice. You cut on a car that runs in the night, quickly, and then it's over. Then we come back to Constantine. So, it's... Something that happened there, I found it very well done, and I don't explain it at all, it seems unconscious to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3021.95,3056.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Theoretically, that's what happened in the film at the start, and it's good that it happened because it gives weight to the voice, it shows that something exists, that the world exists, it's like an electron that exists, something like that. And at the same time, as Anna arrived later, and the car, so it's justified to show a car before, people think it can be this car, it doesn't matter, but at the same time, that's... It brings out and gives faith to the outside world in which he is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3058.32,3091.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And it makes a shift in the... And it shifts and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3091.72,3094.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e And it shifts and it goes back in another way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3093.27,3095.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And I thought it would be more in the sense of reality. That's it, reality. Without any background. Listen, I don't want to keep you. I know you are very busy. I could stay here and not go with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3095.68,3113.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e One more time, yes, or like that, or if you want to... Now we're really, really in a hurry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3114.33,3118.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, if it's possible, I'd like to, I'm still here for another week or two, and I would like to talk to you. I spent a lot of time talking to Maisel, who sends you greetings. We talked for four days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3119.27,3134.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know the name of it, I don' know what it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3135.78,3138.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e J'ai pas vu, je m'entends pas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3137.95,3139.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll approach, I'll do a... We'll sing like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3140.94,3145.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I was very happy to work with you. In principle, I see you in New York. But as everyone jumped on you, I gave up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3145.9,3159.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you want to go to the festival again in September? Would you be there too, no? Ah yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3159.64,3164.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ah oui, sure, vers la fin de septembre. Mais de toute façon, alors, je peux vous téléphoner ici. Très simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3164.58,3172.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It will be in the middle of next week, like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3172.09,3174.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so we can go from there, and I would like to answer a few things. If you are interested in a translation or something, you understand English, the lyrics, the words are wonderful, they are acidity, irony, comedy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3177.27,3194.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll leave him to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282#t=3195.7,3196.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141766/file/262282/transcript/79519/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ah yes, Bagley is a great cinephile, and then in that, I think I put it in, it's the program of the Human Review. I think he's talking about you, and about everyone in there. I don't know, he... I don' know what he said. You know, he took the part of Normally, we explain who he is. 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