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This is Marty Bennett, Instructor Emeritus of History at Santa Rosa Junior College. Today is Sunday, May 28 [2023]. I am interviewing Doug Sabin about the Eugene Vietnam anti-war movement, at his home in Eugene, Oregon. Doug, tell me a little bit about your background and upbringing.\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=26.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm a native Oregonian. I was born in Roseburg and from there moved to Coburg and then to Eugene while my father finished graduate school and then to Salem and then to Lake Oswego and then back to Eugene for my college. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=66.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on a political spectrum, from liberal to conservative, how would you characterize your parents? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=88.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My parents were kind of traditionally mixed politically. My mother registered as a Republican. My dad as a Democrat. My grandfather was a Republican. My great grandfather was actually a delegate to the Republican National Convention for seven cycles. But it was always based on the premise that we could agree to disagree with each other. And it was never malicious. And so as much as my grandfather didn't appreciate me having patched blue jeans or hair down my collar when I was a kid, we still got along. Most of my family was extremely well-educated. My father has doctorate in education. My mother has a degree from the U of O [University of Oregon]. My grandfather was a college graduate from the University of Washington. And my great grandfather was the mayor of Montesano, Washington, and ran a newspaper. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=104.0,178.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what were the occupations of your dad and your mom? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=178.0,184.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My dad was a school administrator, and my mom did some part-time work, but was primarily stay at home. (wind noise) \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=184.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Was your family religious? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=195.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Presbyterian. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=199.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you were raised in the Presbyterian Church? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=201.0,205.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Correct. Liberal Presbyterian Church, as opposed to the hard core deep south Presbyterians. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=205.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when do you think you become aware of the Vietnam War? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=214.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, I was aware of it when I was still a grade school kid. I just didn't, you know, just had to try and find information and read. But, you know, there wasn't really anything a ten or eleven- or twelve-year-old can do in a anti-war movement short of following their parents or something. My folks weren't that political. My dad perceived that, as a school administrator, he had a political, (background noise) you know, dilemma if he did anything too outspoken. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=226.0,267.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when do you kind of first remember publicly taking a stand about the war? Would that have been in high school? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=267.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=277.0,279.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And can you give a little more context, detail, to that? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=279.0,284.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, basically, it was, you know, a few adults who were more liberal teachers and other students and the accumulated knowledge we were able to put together. But it, you know, wasn't particularly easy to get good information about the Vietnam War because it was so, I guess, propagandized, for lack of a better word, with it on the news every night and, you know, everything else, that the government position became most of the country's position at least early. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=284.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And given the Cold War mentality and the anti-communism, it could be very challenging, particularly for someone in high school, to speak up about that. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=328.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, to me, it was really simple, because if you put a North Vietnamese, a South Vietnamese, and me in a row, and you asked who didn't belong, it was a no brainer. I was using that phrase even back then. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=342.0,365.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you never bought into the so-called domino theory? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=365.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not at all. The domino theory was a political way to justify colonialism in my view of the world. Because that's what France did in Indochina. That's what was done all over the world. I mean, even India was colonized. In World War II, the Indian soldiers had to have British non-coms as an officer. They couldn't have their own leadership.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=372.0,406.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So how do you get to the University of Oregon, and when do you come? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=406.0,411.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I get to the U of O in fall of '69. And as someone who was going to have to pay his way through college, my only choice was in-state tuition at an Oregon school. Because in those days, state government, prior to the property tax limitations, paid 85% of the cost of undergraduate education. So I was able to complete my first couple years at U of O for less than a thousand, less than $2,000 a year, for everything. Which meant I couldn't take classes with expensive textbooks or, you know, other things of that nature. And I knew what they dumped the block cheese at the 18th Street Safeway and how to slip a quarter to the guy at William's bakery to give me an unwrapped loaf of bread to, you know, to get by when things got tight. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=411.0,473.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where were you working? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=473.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I worked my way through college at a place called Oregon Portland Cement Company, which was a wet process cement plant. And in summertime, put it in a scale, the company went through twenty thousand tons of lime rock a week brought in by barge to the Willamette. A union job by the way. Lime and Gypsum Workers. Which is why I could get through college working every hour I could work. I actually started work the day after I graduated and quit work two days before the term began, because I had to maximize my income or end up in Vietnam. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=475.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you had a student deferment in the university. And what was your major? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=526.0,537.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, to begin with, I decided to pick anthropology because it had the most letters. But I wasn't serious about it. I ended up with a Bachelor of Science in Psychology eventually. And, you know, I didn't really have the option to kind of pursue things that far educationally. And one of the reasons was as a freshman, because I'd taken all the advanced placement courses and such, I was taking Honors College calculus class at 8 a.m. in the morning, five days a week. And you had to have twelve hours in order to be classified as a student. I had sixteen. And I slept through the midterm after doing a paper up late the night before and had to eat four hours of F-graded on my transcript to prevent me from becoming draft eligible. So that pretty much ended any possibility of things like graduate school really early in my academic career. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=537.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you have any discussion about the war in any of your classes? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=619.0,625.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not really in classes, but with other students. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=625.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. So there was a fairly robust discussion about the war amongst your fellow students? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=628.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And if you take into consideration that my primary social outlet was the Honors College Lounge, I didn't have to put up with a lot of stupidity. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=636.0,651.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that, I think, was the experience of many students. Those more informal conversations, or to the degree things were organized on campus, teach-ins or other kinds of activities, that political education was always ongoing. What do you remember as the kind of—oh, let's start here. Did you know, did you listen, were you listening to Oregon Senator Wayne Morse as you got into college? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=651.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=691.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And would you say he was influential on as your opposition to the war emerged? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=692.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was one of the first and most vocal. And he was actually a great source of information because he was the only senator who voted against the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution based on the idea that we were not getting all the facts. And that was later verified in the Congressional Record. But Wayne Morse was known for being a straight shooter and having strong opinions, but still having a reason for his opinions. So at the time, people in Oregon generally, as far as I could see, were more than appreciative of Wayne Morse. And even if he dissented from something that you believed in, you knew he was sincere and serious. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=701.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just to go back one step. Eugene McCarthy and then later, Robert Kennedy. This would have been while you were in high school—\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=758.0,769.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=769.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—entered the Democratic primaries as anti-war candidates. Did you get involved with either of their campaigns? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=770.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the time when I was in high school, I was pretty much busy with being a high school student. You know, getting ready to go to college and all the rest of that. And I didn't have the finances or a car or any of those things that allowed me the latitude to really take part in much because I lived in a wealthy suburb of Portland. 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So what was the first anti-war demonstration or action that you remember at the University of Oregon? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=807.0,831.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, there were various demonstrations and marches that, you know, I walked in or participated in, but I can't clearly remember anything that was kind of seminal. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=831.0,846.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=846.0,847.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was that I had already had a clear position on the war and its justification or lack of. And so it wasn't like I felt like I needed to have someone tell me what I already knew. But I was more than willing to show support for the anti-war movement. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=847.0,872.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And was there in the Honors College or amongst the students that you were kind of hanging out with, did you remember any that were either SDS [Students for a Democratic Society] or—there was a number of other organizations, Citizens for a Sane Foreign policy—did you know anybody who was actively organized? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=872.0,898.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not really. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=898.0,898.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=898.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. I was on the periphery, and I knew of people and could recognize them and read stories about them and all the rest of that stuff. But I wasn't really involved in planning or any of that stuff. I still have a vivid memory of being informed that the police kept trying to plant drugs on Ron Eachus [Associated Students President '70-'71] whenever they raided his house. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=899.0,923.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The student body president. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=923.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And eventually a state official. But that he always had spotters calling out the police. If they tried to drop a bag of pot or something and plant it on him. And, you know, at the time, I can't say that I saw it, but I certainly had no reason to disbelieve it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=924.0,948.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know if you'll remember, in the fall of '69, there was the national [Vietnam] Moratorium [Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam], which was a nationwide, big demonstrations in San Francisco and in Washington, D.C., hundreds of thousands of people. But then every local community had its own moratorium in October and November of '69. And the idea was, no work, no school. 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I wasn't going to take the day off. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=997.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so it would be challenge for you to take a day off from work or to take off a from school? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1009.0,1015.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I mean, I lived in the dorms. I had a bicycle as my only transportation. I had significant limitations in terms of my abilities to do things. But, you know, I did what I could when I could. I guess I'll say that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1015.0,1032.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. And do you remember there, particularly fall '69 moving into '70, there were students that publicly were turning in their draft cards? 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And the people who actually burned them. \n\nSpeaker 2","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1055.0,1060.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1060.0,1061.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I guess I'm probably someone you'd consider to be a pragmatist. And I never thought it was a good idea to stand in front of a runaway dump truck. In other words, if you had rich parents who could afford a lawyer, you could take a lot more risks. But if you were paying your own way through college and couldn't afford to eat by the end of the third term of your freshman year, you didn't take chances with what little you had. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1061.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, good. And so, if we look at the 1970, there was a big controversy around ROTC [Reserve Officers' Training Corps] being on campus and— \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1098.0,1114.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1114.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Was this university complicity? Was the university aiding and abetting the so-called war machine that was involved in this, you know, war which you and other students did not, was the wrong war in the wrong place, potentially a neo-colonial war. But there was this controversy about ROTC, and the faculty narrowly voted to retain ROTC on campus in April 15 [1970]. And then a whole hundreds of students went over to the ROTC building and did a great deal of physical damage to it. But then a week later, after students had been indicted for inciting a riot, there was going to be a protest at Johnson Hall. About three or four hundred students are going to take over the main administration building. Do you remember that? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1115.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I do. I wasn't a participant in any of the ROTC protests as far as being part of those crowds of people. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1181.0,1189.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1189.0,1190.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, to put a perspective on it, that's a little different. My father ended up in World War II with the 10th Mountain Division after going through ROTC at the U of O and volunteering for that war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1190.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1207.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which I had no issues with participating in stopping Hitler. So I had kind of, if somebody wanted to do ROTC, I didn't have a problem with that being complicit any more than, you know, if you joined the Army, you were complicit. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1207.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1230.0,1232.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that was just my own perspective on it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1232.0,1237.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1237.0,1238.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And like I said, I mentioned to you before that I went down to the Johnson Hall administration yelling, screaming, and making sooie pig noises because I got pepper gassed via the wind blowing to the dorms via the pepper spray fog. It pissed me off. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1238.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(Laughter) So indeed, the sheriffs were going to be on campus later. The National Guard was going to be on campus and, yeah, pepper spray was liberally used. And so were you one of many students where the toxic gas comes into your dorm room? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1264.0,1283.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was what was so puzzling to me then and now, is that there was a significant breeze blowing toward the dormitories. And they fired up the pepper foggers. I mean, you could lick your finger, hold it up and know which way the wind was blowing. So there were literally many hundreds of people who came pouring out of the dorms, you know, residences and, basically, were flaming pissed. I mean, at some point, you know, you're not even within four blocks of Johnson Hall and your eyes are so effed up you can't read? You know, I took that personally. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1283.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so what happened when you went over to Johnson Hall and how did you make your feelings about the situation known? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1337.0,1347.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Basically, I just screamed at the sheriffs and made pig suey noises and told them they were out of their mind for using the pepper spray and letting it drift into the dorms. Seemed pretty straightforward at the time. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1347.0,1365.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you get any response? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1365.0,1367.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. You know, riot police are traditionally very stoic. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1367.0,1374.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I, I can't remember the point, but somehow the sheriffs acquire some kind of armored vehicle. I can't remember the exact type of vehicle, but that their stoicism seemed to be reinforced by the fact that they had the armor and they actually brought it on the campus. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1374.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, you know, even our local Eugene Police Department has armored vehicles that are totally inappropriate, you know, for, I guess, any rational civilian confrontations. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1394.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, subsequently, the demands of the students were going to be the removal of police from campus, university should cut all ties to ROTC, and amnesty for students that were arrested the week or so earlier. Was that something that you were supporting or paying attention to what students were saying? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1412.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I was paying attention, but I was not particularly supportive based on the idea that they put themselves in a predicament of their own choice. And my particular choice was to try and maintain my own flexibility to do whatever I could to achieve desired goals. But I had no desire to be handcuffed, fingerprinted, or put in a jail. I've never been and I don't intend on being. I avoid that. I was pretty quick to get the hell out of the way if it looked like it was all going south. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1440.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And so you were pissed off about the tear gas and you were definitely anti-war, but you weren't into the minutia of what the students were demanding. And your sensibility was that if you're going sit-in, you got to kind of pay the piper and take the consequences. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1477.0,1501.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, the other one I'll share with you, because my life experience, per se, but if you're going to make a demand, you kind of need to have some juice. And if you're just blowing smoke, you know, it's not going to do you any good. So the idea that amnesty for something that would be considered a direct action that was criminal, you know, you can ask all you want, but if they got you on camera, you're kind of screwed. And, I didn't want to be in a position where I had to worry about my own well-being because I had to take care of myself. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1501.0,1546.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And certainly you didn't want to be beholden to raising thousands of dollars in bail money. You know, were you to have been arrested. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1546.0,1554.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You mean I didn't want to rot in jail because I couldn't raise it? (both laugh) Well, you know, one of the things I'll share with you, and it was kind of an observation for me at the time, was that a lot of the most radical people came from wealthy enough backgrounds that they had a bail out that the rest of us didn't. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1554.0,1577.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Right.\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1577.0,1577.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it is a really nice luxury to be able to claim moral high ground when your dad's lawyer will bail you out of it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1577.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Your parents could bail you out. They could pay the lawyer. And on top of that, you may have been getting your tuition, if not your living expenses, paid for by your parents? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1590.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, they didn't give me any. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1601.0,1603.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1603.0,1605.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1605.0,1607.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where many students, there was a certain, there was a real class issue here. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1607.0,1610.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And where I went to high school, which is Lake Oswego, is the wealthiest suburban community in the state of Oregon. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1610.0,1617.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1617.0,1618.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the inequities were beyond obvious to me, even as a high school kid, because rich kids stole a boxcar load of malt liquor off a SP [Southern Pacific] siding and sold it to anyone who'd take it for a dollar a six pack. And when they got caught, because it was a boxcar load, their parents made a settlement with Southern Pacific Railroad, and none of them even got arrested for a minor in possession of alcohol, let alone selling it to minors. And, you know, that was a Bob Dylan favorite line of mine is \"Money doesn't talk, it screams.\" So, you know, I was more than aware of the inequities based on finances in our country and what rules apply to some people and don't apply to others. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1618.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So later in April, students—the 13th Street running through the campus had always been controversial because logging trucks coming through, it was— \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1678.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The kids in hot rods were the worst. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1699.0,1700.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And the noise, not only public safety, but the noise. There was always a controversial issue. And then later in April, after the considerable controversy around the Johnson Hall sit-in and sheriffs and National Guard on campus, students are going to physically close that and shut it down. And were you aware of that? 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How did you participate in that? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1743.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mixed the mortar that built the planters when we laid the concrete block. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1749.0,1754.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you had some experience with— \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1754.0,1756.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I knew how to deal with mortar and powdered cement because that was my summer job. Not making the mortar, but making the powder. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1756.0,1767.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you actually laying the bricks as well? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1767.0,1772.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, but I wasn't the only one. I was pretty much the only one mixing mortar. I wanted to get the right consistency and the right amount of air in the mix but just details. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1772.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this was, I presume, in the middle of the night that it was happening. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1782.0,1789.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, as I recollect, we started building the planter boxes fairly early in the day. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1789.0,1799.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1799.0,1799.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"May have been morning. May have been noonish. And the real confrontations didn't occur until that night. By that night, the planters were filled with dirt, built, and had plants in them. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1799.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so talk a little—and you then were hanging out to guard the planter boxes? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1817.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, although, I don't know as I was much of a guard. I was more of a willing informant to go running to fraternities or dorms and say, \"Help, we've got a bunch of crazy people with baseball bats.\" \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1826.0,1841.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, talk about the kind of confrontations that would later occur. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1841.0,1845.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The confrontations were, I guess, what the right way to say it was, impendingly possible. But to their credit, the Eugene Police Department basically maintained a completely nonviolent situation where they publicly stated to everyone that anybody who threw a punch was going to jail. And so nobody wanted to be the one instigating violence. But if two hundred people with hot rods and baseball bats showed up, there was a thousand students in five minutes. And it never broke down into a real confrontation. It just became this schism of divisiveness. Kind of like the difference between MAGA Republicans and normal people now. Where the people who wanted to come beat up hippies felt entirely justifiable because we were breaking the law by closing a street. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1845.0,1912.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you felt that student opinion and for the majority of students, they definitely wanted that street closed?\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1912.0,1922.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. If you were taking a final in summer or late spring and it was hot, you could hear the traffic like you were in the middle lane. I mean, it was incredibly loud. And even personally, I almost got hit on my bicycle by cars a number of times because 13th Street was the main bike route through campus. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1922.0,1952.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After that, all hell is going to break loose. When two things happened in late April, early May. One is the Nixon administration is going to invade Cambodia and expand the war, and that had been preceded by a secret bombing of Cambodia that Congress was not aware of, nor had approved. And then the second thing that was going to happen is, early May, four students were going to be murdered by the National Guard protesting the war. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1952.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At Kent State. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1985.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At Kent State. And talk about that. How—and, of course, the university would shut down for three days, and hundreds of university students would go out on strike peacefully. But talk about that, how—your impressions, your memories of that moment. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=1985.0,2006.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When Kent State happened, we all got to see it on TV. And we got to see exactly what happened. There was no artificial intelligence that could embellish. And every student I knew was horrified. The idea that armed troops would open fire on unarmed college students was heinous. And, you know, that I think was one of the more seminal moments of the anti-war movement because it crossed the line that far.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2006.0,2044.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you feel the majority of students had definitely turned against the war by this time? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2044.0,2052.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was my perception. I can't, you know, say verifiably by a poll or number. But most students, especially if they were draft eligible or paid attention, were becoming more and more horrified by the war. It's like most people don't realize that there was an incursion into Laos [February 1971] after the U.S. Congress made it illegal for U.S. troops to leave Vietnam [Cooper-Church amendment June 1970]. And they sent in fifteen thousand South Vietnamese with American support in American helicopters because they were trying to get around restrictions on interrupting materiel flows through the Ho Chi Minh Trail. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2052.0,2098.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, I don't know if you recall, but there would be several student body presidents elected. One was—and they were all native Oregonians—Dick Jones, who was followed by Kip Morgan, who was followed by Ron Eachus. And they were all publicly outspoken against the war. So that may have been one measure of the direction that student opinion was going. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2098.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I struggle a little bit with the idea that the students were being led into the opinions as much as they had the opinions and student leaders expressed the same things. Because it wasn't like anybody decided one way or another because a student body official came out. I mean the sum total of, I guess, anger at the war, was built up in a thousand different ways for a thousand different people. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2130.0,2169.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And after Kent State and these four students were murdered by the National Guard, did you think that could happen here at the University of Oregon? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2169.0,2179.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have faith in Oregonians enough to where I didn't think it would happen here, but I had no question in my mind that it could happen all over the country. But, you know, with [Senator] Wayne Morse and Mark Hatfield as governor, who was also anti-war, we basically had a nucleus of anti-war politicians and people who didn't feel constrained by media thought. And, you know, it was open discussions that didn't necessarily become confrontation. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2179.0,2224.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, there was violence. And particularly April 15, after the faculty narrowly voted to retain ROTC. And then these students went over, not all students, there was a crowd of four hundred. Some of them did physical damage to the ROTC building. What was your reaction to that? (wind noise)\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2224.0,2255.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought it was stupid. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2255.0,2256.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2256.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because in my view, it was more prone to create a negative overreaction than to accomplish anything. In other words. If you do basically violent actions, there's a huge number of the public who will say, You are violent, you don't have a right to say about shit. You're abrogating your civility. And, you know, I didn't want to become a part of anything that I couldn't justify (wind noise), if I had them at the time, to my own kids even. I couldn't tell my kids not to do something I'd done. You know, I mean, at some point, you've got to be congruent with your beliefs. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2259.0,2317.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you ever express that to any of the anti-war leaders on campus? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2317.0,2323.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, yeah. Not so much the leaders, because I didn't have their ear. They kind of operated in their own worlds. And they would be there to organize an event or whatever else and orchestrate how it was supposed to happen. But the rest of the people like me were basically just a school of fish. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2323.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But this kind of thing you would talk about, say, on a class break or lunchtime in the Honors College? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2347.0,2356.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. You know, there was always a good chance to discuss things with people if you were respectful to each other. And to be quite blunt, I thought the consensus among intelligent people was the Vietnam War was a mistake and a foolish venture, that it had gone on too long already. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2356.0,2391.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As you are against the war, how did how did your parents react to that? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2391.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Basically, even though my father was a veteran of World War II and Korea with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star from both conflicts, he had no desire to see me go to Vietnam. He considered it to be an unrealistic and foolish venture. But he'd done combat as a platoon leader in two wars, which gives you a different perspective than someone who just listens to politicians spouting tripe. But I didn't receive any real hassle for my points of view. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2400.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And since you're putting yourself through college, talk about what conversations you might have had with people in the cement plant about the war. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2440.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Basically, I only had conversations with a few of the students and on a very limited level. The folks who I worked with were either like blue-collar older guys or rich kids. And most of those groups weren't really interested in anything involving social consciousness or anti-war or anything like that. You know, you pick and choose where you want to—you don't want to piss off somebody. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2454.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But did you engage anybody at this facility? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2490.0,2498.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well there were a few people I was friends with and engaged with to a degree, but it was never a serious anti-war effort in terms of trying to change anybody's opinion. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2498.0,2509.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you did meet a veteran there? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2509.0,2513.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A few. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2513.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was your takeaway from any interaction? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2514.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One veteran I knew there had had a horrific experience being overrun in a hamlet twice with his unit having over 80% casualties each time. And, you know, he was a gentleman who I never saw smile. He was absolutely devastated. And then, you know, in the new world order, he had PTSD [Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder]. But, you know, it's kind of like ADD [Attention Deficit Disorder] and stuff like that. None of that ever existed by diagnosis in the fifties and sixties. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2520.0,2555.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, right, right. But did that—how did that affect your opinion about the war after you—?\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2555.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I already had my own opinion. I was just sad that anybody got put in that circumstance. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2563.0,2571.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got it. So you're going to graduate in '73? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2571.0,2577.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seventy-four, because I got married and needed to work a year extra at the cement plant and save up enough money to finish my degree. But I came out of college debt-free. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2577.0,2594.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And what happens to you after college? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2594.0,2599.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Basically went to work at a grocery store, did that for a while, went to work at a nursery. And six years later, I got a job at UPS [United Parcel Service]. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2599.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did—as you were working, were those union jobs? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2610.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The only non-union job that I ever worked was at the outdoor nursery. Cement plant was Cement, Lime, and Gypsum Workers. Retail Clerks was the name of the local grocery in the early seventies, and it later became UFCW [United Food and Commercial Workers Union] and then, of course, Teamsters at UPS. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2619.0,2646.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you work in the shipping and in the grocery industry. How do you—talk about how UPS and how you get a job at UPS? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2646.0,2660.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the time I got hired, UPS hired enough people to double the size of their crew for Christmas. Because we carried everybody's Christmas presents. I mean literally, as a temporary driver, I realized that I was delivering to every house by the end of the season, it was that. It all went through UPS. And they had twenty-five drivers, temporaries. And in a perfect world, one or maybe two might eventually get hired. So what UPS got to do was have twenty-five people compete for a potential opening. And if you were good enough and worked hard enough, then you might get a shot. And that's what happened after two Christmas seasons. They let me in the door, and I did whatever they asked, and I was a good employee for them. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2660.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you're going to be in the Teamsters Union. And what was your impression of the union as you went to work as a full-time?\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2730.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Teamsters Union in 1980 was seriously corrupt. And basically they tried to enforce a contract that was overwhelmingly rejected based on the International's executive board action and were sued to get that changed. At that same time, the part-time workers were completely brutalized by the company because the drivers didn't have the sense to think of themselves as being one big union and basically had the attitude of, Screw the part-timers, they're not going to be here that long anyway, and we want more for us. So the driver's wages skyrocketed, and the part-time wages went down. When I first started, it was fifty cents an hour difference between starting part-time and starting driver. By the time the '90s came around, it was eight fifty an hour for the part-timers and in the low mid-twenties for everybody else. And that was something I was always extremely vocal about, saying, \"You don't screw your buddy.\" You know, that they're part of our union and that we need to respect them if we want them to respect us.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2740.0,2842.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And do you kind of get involved in the union in a leadership role or speaking out? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2842.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not for a few years when they needed—we had two good stewards. And when they both left Eugene, they were looking for a new steward and I was dumb enough to volunteer. And that was part of the educational process. But I didn't really have that much background. I was more than willing to put in the effort to learn. Interestingly enough, there was a power struggle in my local, where a Eugene steward got a letter of recommendation from our secretary-treasurer and used it to campaign against him for the office of secretary-treasurer, even though he'd been given a sweetheart deal as a steward. At that point, when—before he pulled that crap—he convinced the secretary-treasurer that I was not needed as a steward. And I took my energy to the Lane County Labor Council and basically participated in that and wasn't a steward for a few years. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2850.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And by the way, there was at some point a guy named Ken Bylund who was [President] in the Labor Council, who was also an outspoken opponent of the war. Does that ring a bell with you? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2927.0,2942.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, back in those days, there was a huge number of people at Labor Council meetings. I mean, we would get like sixty people at the meeting. So I knew the people I knew the best and who were leaders of it. But, I didn't. I can't specifically remember that name. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2942.0,2961.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So were you aware of there was this movement across the country, lets see, starts in the mid- to late-seventies to democratize and to clean up the corruption and to deal with some of the inequities on the job. It's called Teamsters for a Democratic Union. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2961.0,2982.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I started as a member of TDU in 1993. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2982.0,2986.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 1993. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2986.0,2987.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When Ken Paff came to visit to recruit new members. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2987.0,2992.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was one of the staffers for TDU. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2992.0,2994.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was the man. He headed up TDU. And basically, he was another one of those kind of benevolent dictator types who had control of everything. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=2994.0,3008.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But prior to that, you kind of become a steward and kind of a rank-and-file leader in the local. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3008.0,3018.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That wasn't until the mid late eighties. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3018.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The late eighties, okay. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3021.0,3023.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the seventies, I was still a grocery store clerk. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3023.0,3025.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. But in the late eighties, is there going to be a leadership change in the local? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3025.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3030.0,3031.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tell me about that. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3031.0,3033.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, the secretary-treasurer of the local we considered to be incompetent and corrupt enough to be in bed with UPS management. And so a fellow by the name of Tom Shea, who eventually became international vice-president, ran a campaign for the local secretary-treasurer job. We actually had a fundraising garage sale at my house, and UPS drivers at the time were donating all kinds of good shit because they made good money. And we got Tom elected and he took over the local. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3033.0,3076.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is it at that point, you became more engaged in the local politics?\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3076.0,3082.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I was somewhat engaged because I had to fight my own grievances without help until Tom was elected. And then he and his partner, John McConnell, basically, took the bull by the horns with all the union issues. And obviously, as a newbie, I had no desire or inclination to try and be argumentative with people who knew much more than I did and who had much more experience. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3082.0,3114.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you knew how to file a grievance by that time? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3114.0,3117.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's really simple. And, you know, if—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3117.0,3121.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—to file and can win a grievance. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3121.0,3123.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I never lost one, ever. But, you know, the other one I'll share with you is that if you were to look through my bookcases, you might find a remarkable number of handbooks about how to be a steward, how to win grievances, you know, how to raise the rabble. You know, and all of that accumulated knowledge was available to me. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3123.0,3154.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Great. And then in the 1990s, there's going to be a whole reform slate that comes to power in the international and—\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3154.0,3170.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ron Carey administration. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3170.0,3171.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And you're going to be working in TDU to get Carey elected? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3171.0,3179.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and Carey got shortchanged or railroaded, for lack of a better way of saying it, because, you know, his whole situation was subverted by the power of the institution. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3179.0,3193.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3193.0,3194.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, all the corruption crap was nonexistent, but it was their way of attacking. And Tom Leedham, who was the secretary-treasurer of my local, once the local Eugene local merged with a Portland local [Local 206], ran for president on two cycles, after that. And at that point, I was part of his executive board and working on his campaign and being supportive of all of that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3194.0,3235.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this was a real change from when you first came to UPS and now you go to work and you're on the executive board would come with Tom Leedham. 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I went through two conventions in Vegas. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3263.0,3269.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3269.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the horseshit that we got to put up with at those conventions was beyond belief. In fact I was one of the few, if maybe the only person who filed a formal federal complaint with the federal election administrators, over Haffa people harassing TDU delegates specifically who are on their way to vote in the election. And these folks tried to intimidate us by basically forming a gauntlet. And one of my weaknesses is I have a temper. And when I saw the gantlet, I went straight to my hotel room and got my Nikon camera with a thousand ASA film for indoor use without a flash, and walked through the gauntlet taking pictures of the Hoffa people and basically intimidating them back. And, you know, a couple of them got threatening. I was empowered because I was in Las Vegas. You've been to Las Vegas, there's a fucking camera everywhere, right? So I'm walking down this hallway and I'm saying, you're not going to do shit. You're not going do a god damn thing cause you're on camera. And if you do anything to embarrass the Hoffa administration in front of the election administrator, your ass is going to get handed to you. So just get out of my way. God, was it empowering to say that to people twice your size. Of course, you didn't go off the strip. You didn't go into an elevator alone. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3270.0,3388.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the wheel of history has turned, and the O'Brien-Zuckerman reform slate gets elected [2021]. 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And like I say, I actually filed a formal protest for the intimidation. And at least, until a few years ago, I was still on the Internet as having done that. But, apparently, they don't know where Eugene is, so I'm still alive. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3405.0,3464.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you continued your activism in the union pretty much up until you retired? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3464.0,3470.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. In fact, I retired in 2011, the end of June, after doing the 2011 International Teamster Convention, when all of the Teamsters got up and walked out when Tom Leedham was going to address the group. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3470.0,3491.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, really, TDU gets the last word with the election of the Zuckerman-O'Brien, the O'Brien-Zuckerman slate recently. But just tell me two things. 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But I was a willing participant at every peace march that was publicized. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3520.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what do you think the overall impact of the anti-war movement was? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3532.0,3539.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought the impact was tremendous because it was so broad-based. When you had nonviolent demonstrations with thousands of people from all walks of life, it's not as easily dismissed as fifty students carrying signs and yelling slogans. You know, I mean, it's a very powerful message when you've got a street filled for seven blocks long with as many people as it'll hold, and they're all walking together peacefully. The only issue that was always critical to me was maintaining the idea that the demonstrations remained peaceful for those participants who did not have any desire to be involved in anything that was violent, but were merely expressing their political views in a way they felt comfortable. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3539.0,3596.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And would it be safe to say that your experience in the anti-war movement, and particularly these kind of nonviolent demonstrations and actions you participated in, and then the dialog that you engaged in the Honors College and elsewhere on campus, that that really did change minds? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3596.0,3620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, if it was approached right, I believed it could. But, you know, it's kind of like attracting a fly with honey instead of a glowing flame. At some point, you want to give people an opportunity to feel comfortable agreeing with you. And that's, you know, like I say, I had a very patriarchal Republican grandfather, and we basically didn't see eye-to-eye on much, but we could always agree to disagree. And that was fundamental to my family's relationships. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3620.0,3666.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And do you think that your later activism in the Teamsters Union and pressing for reforms in the Teamsters Union, that some of your participation or engagement in the anti-war movement carried over into the Teamsters? \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3666.0,3688.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In my own view, I have always considered myself to be a social activist. And the Vietnam War was part of that. Unionism was part of that. Environmentalism was part of that. And so it wasn't that the Vietnam War was the seed. It was just part of the fruit. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3688.0,3712.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm okay. \n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3712.0,3714.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, I don't have a history that suggests at some particular moment something changed. Because if I was nine years old and trying to get people to vote for a Democrat for president, it kind of was a different level of commitment than most nine-year-olds. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3714.0,3733.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. (laughter)\n\nDoug Sabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3733.0,3736.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, it has always been a family tradition of trying to be of service in one way or another, whether it's through a church, social conscience. My aunt and uncle had been extremely active in Habitat for Humanity for almost forty years, have worked with Jimmy Carter, built their own financed house in the Philippines on their own dime. And have been all over the world. You know, my grandfather had a turn-of-the-century letterpress in his basement, and he printed for free all of the Shrine Circus tickets, all of the DeMolay [DeMolay International] and Rainbow Girls [International Order of the Rainbow for Girls], and stuff like that, invitations and other things free of charge. And basically did that as a public service on a printing press that the manufacturer asked everybody to destroy. Because if you didn't hit the trip lever with your elbow and left your finger in too long it came out as flat as your business card. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523#t=3736.0,3809.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160669/file/292523/transcript/84534/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, listen, this has been a really informative and rich interview, and I'm really grateful for you for participating in this project about the Eugene anti-war movement. 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