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Your trip? Oh, yeah. And very much working on the interior person. And her concerns was of up to a point of making an autobiographical film right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=4.14,18.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what they're working on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=19.74,20.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She has a couple of really lovely things. As you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=21.84,23.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e See, they're short and you may enjoy it like this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=24.06,26.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e One's called Moons Pool, which is exquisite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=27.66,30.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And her picture and kind of reminds me of not that it's the same at all, but that it's the same. There is the same sense of an intense interior experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=31.59,42.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Does she still work with Sally? Thank you for that. I'm going to start with you. Does she still work with Wylie as an actress?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=43.26,52.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She didn't say. I think I'm starting to do it more. Or I think she was working on her own. She used to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=54.45,60.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For a long time. Yes. I think she.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=60.75,63.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Worked with us while I was your name, girl, I think. Yeah, a very nice thing. But she's done some other things. Yeah, I think she said she's going back and doing another film, but I don't think they've been working really well. So what's nice about her feels like the experience in her films were like a common experience because you couldn't really say, oh yeah, that's a woman filmmaker, because it was more like humanistic to me. 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Oh, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=132.19,137.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You were saying something in the cab. Not that you were more concerned with the interior person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=141.31,150.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh. Are you pretty good? Because I have, I had. 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But I'm concerned with what are the courses?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=175.54,191.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Because who knows what the interior courses are all about is what happens when you get very academic about it and say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=194.71,204.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You feel that those are that the interior courses in a person are. 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We've got no one and I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=330.89,342.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't know what this is about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=344.93,350.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's interesting to say those things because I think one but some of the work, not all the hermaphrodite thing is just as it comes up In terms that you always viewed, or you seem to be viewing the multiple aspect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=351.17,369.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Relationship of men and women. 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Yeah. I recognize that. Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=388.6,391.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know that one too? Well, yeah. Yeah. But it's interesting there. Yeah. But there's also more there because the man is an older person and she's a very young. Yeah. 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And I think that was very important for personal history. 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I think that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=563.76,564.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e The. No. I'm really interested in having two major things. One is. Well, three things. 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It's not a concept, that concept so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=647.5,650.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e As it's almost. No, it's more than a concept that now exists in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=650.35,654.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact that it's up in front of you. 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The third I better call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=737.72,739.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That was done somewhere in between, like 69.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=740.0,744.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I did that too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=746.54,747.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=747.74,747.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But it it's closer to an earlier preoccupation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=752.76,755.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e It's closer to things like meditation. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=763.85,765.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Even though it came later, I mean, in principle about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=766.12,769.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. That's right. But I think it was something moving around there and it had to come out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=769.82,775.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like a butterfly. But.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=776.45,778.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the butterfly, incidentally, is also a very ancient symbol For the soul. That's all we got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=780.53,789.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't know that. I was gonna have to get that on tape. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258#t=789.62,792.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262258/transcript/76678/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So we're back again. I mean, come on. Yeah. It's very strange. 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Yeah, well, sometimes we're better not to know. You know? You know, I was like, what does that look like? Not right by the young who said that one shouldn't get involved. You know the why. What are you doing? Why don't you. What? The whole idea. Not enough to worry about why you're doing something. Oh, I was just doing it. Yeah, you do that, you do it. It should be right there. If you're curious. If you want to know why. And okay, I'll look into it afterwards. But first do it well. Yeah. And then if you find it necessary. 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Let's see if I've got this all the right way. This makes quite acceptable sound for documentary movies. And not through that microphone, but through another microphone, you know? 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And I would like to go up to the Niagara Falls. I have a very strong reason for going to go there for a new film. 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I don' want to watch it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=618.75,620.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=620.51,621.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't like to, yeah, I hate it, I can't stand it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=621.03,624.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't stand it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=623.63,624.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I can do it if I have to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=625.92,627.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But I really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=630.319,630.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I really don't like it at all. It takes... It's the one thing that doesn't happen on a canvas, you see, and the interference of the mechanics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=630.51,646.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you prefer a steam bath? 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Do the students get a chance at it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=686.07,689.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not very often, no. Nobody trusts us. Nobody, yeah. 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There are some that are a bunch more expensive with two soundtracks, but just for one soundtrack and a picture, it's about $2,000. This is for Super? Super 8. Very nice. Not a big image, but an image about that size. 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You can do both. 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And I don't find that the, you know, there's a funny thing that happens, I don' t know how you feel about it, but... 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And I just put the sheet on the top of the screen and I wait till it gets a little dark. I mean I could use another, you know, I have a small one, a quarter of an hour. But I like the idea of the large and really being able to see. And even if it's a little light, it still holds up and I just project onto the big screen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=866.9,890.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you have an interlocked projection so you can project sound and picture? 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And I also have a feeling that next to that, that even though I like the idea of the Steinbeck, that next that those old, horrible old movie olders are the better ones of the two. 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No, I haven't. The Super 8 film she had, I was telling her she thinks they're not, but they're the best prints I've ever seen in Super 8. I'm just absolutely knocked out by it. 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Of course they may see you coming and decide they better change the chemicals and put in the good stuff. Good job. 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People.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1065.3,1066.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e When Gunn-Horn Nelson was here, she had a hard time with the labs. Oh, really? Here in... 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No, you can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1093.35,1095.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no way to count on the first Frenchman in the world right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1098.07,1101.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's just part of the game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1104.15,1105.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you have to get to know them well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1108.35,1110.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm glad you're here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1111.13,1112.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm glad to know about it. 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If you have any friends who want to come up and see how we work, just tell them to come up and tell them that you sent it. 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That are not put together as a trilogy but the three of them because when they as soon as they come back from the lab I have to take a look at them and see what I have do to retouch them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1246.17,1261.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But your retouching is really strange, because that makes almost every...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1263.34,1266.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Everyone becomes a work of art. Yeah, it's original. 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And that's it. 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I think, oh gee, what does he want from me? I don't want to start in with that. I'm not, just not in the mood to do, to do my artwork.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1421.56,1428.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e For the next 20 years, you're going to be making punching holes and painting out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1429.31,1433.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1435.0,1435.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I was very interested in your interest in pure life because in fact the print won't give that to you, will it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1436.01,1443.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, the print sometimes will give a pretty good facsimile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1445.9,1448.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But not good enough for what I want. 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And nothing happens to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1458.18,1467.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You have it pretty well programmed as to how many punch holes in each frame it has to be. It was a rhythmic relationship with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1468.59,1477.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, oh yes, that's all. Burst out. That's what I say, it looks random, but...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1476.9,1482.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You follow a guide when you're punching the holes in the print.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1482.87,1486.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I know, I know what I'm doing, and I'm very careful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1487.02,1492.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course, I imagine you see it on the print anyway, and you follow those holes that are on the prints.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1492.0,1496.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but I know it by heart by now, too, I guess. That whole experience of working and doing that etching. I mean, it is really edgy. 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I can gage the amount of, oh for example, if you notice, there's a very interesting thing that happens with, here we're talking about punches, you know, for light. There's another phenomenon which occurs, and that is in the sorcerers, the one shaman, I don't have any color. There. I just have the etching, the rolls. But I think if you look at it, what you're seeing is white and you're seeing a little bluish gray, right? Well, there is no bluish gray there. What is it? Well it's the speed. It's so many frames left, blank, and so frames. Paint to them, and it creates an acceleration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1523.37,1593.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're gonna sit down, we're almost finished here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1595.97,1597.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you like a glass of wine or something? I think it would be a nice idea. Get another glass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1603.01,1610.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So it creates an acceleration there which is so fast in spots that it changes color.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1614.97,1621.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's that old Gestalt effect that the Gestaltists used to show that you can perceive colors by just having gray and black and white together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1622.87,1633.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Never knew that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1634.05,1634.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Shouts was lost with that. Oh, he does. Seeing and hearing things that aren't really there. That's good. I just did it. Just perceived motion that is the heart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1637.11,1651.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we have something coming, that's very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1652.33,1655.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's one of the things I... Like to ask you when we get into all of that would be how you see what you're doing as compared to some of the other people working in the independent personal sentiment. I mean I don't mean the value judgments, but just the difference. 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I think that maybe one can find in brackets an emotional level in a very strong way. One can find it in your stuff sometimes, extremely, including a myth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1683.63,1721.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, yeah, that was the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1722.37,1723.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And uh, but uh, myth is sort of an intellectual term for it, there's a strong emotion that comes out of tattooed man and Kabbalah, Kabbala.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1723.86,1733.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1733.36,1733.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Kabbalah. Bruce Bailey's stuff still maintains them. They're very emotional. Um, well-handled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1735.57,1745.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1746.59,1746.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so one could say that those people who really were working heavily in the 60s and began around, you know, in the 50s and 60s, have maintained some kind of an emotion. There was a sense of interior. Whereas with Crampton Sherrats and the others who were sort of loosely called by P. Adams, structurally. There is an attempt to kind of divorce themselves, not from personal films, but from personal expressions. Yeah. A sense of that kind of flow. Yeah. I'm going to see you that time. Expression in the old sense, I guess. And so, I find that in your material, in Hindel's...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1750.43,1796.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1796.61,1796.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Angered in Baillie's mind, but there's a kind of a... There's a kind of route that goes way back into experimental art from a long time. Hi. Look at Bailey, Bailey worked with him. You know, Don Quixote, Smash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1800.0,1827.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it becomes a literary thing, too, with me, because what I'm doing is working not only on film, but I'm working on maybe unfinished business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259#t=1829.18,1840.16"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/141757/file/262259/transcript/79521/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/521/original/trint_Coll458_jb0011_deHirsch_02_transcript.vtt?1747070278","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/521/original/trint_Coll458_jb0011_deHirsch_02_transcript.vtt?1747070278"}]}]}]}