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We needed someone to stay desperately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=6.12,11.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And when you break it down, that's just what it is, is survival.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=13.28,15.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Where are you gonna go? Well, there's nowhere to go. That's the big question, Mark. There's nowhere...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=16.32,20.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e These are video cassettes. There are almost 180 on these shelves, about 75 hours of program, and in each one, someone in Houston has told us something or showed us something about an aspect of the city that is invisible to many of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=21.09,39.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that was the way we started the show back in August, the very first show in the series. And all of those videotaped cassettes wherein people were telling us and showing us things, in which we included in the show. All of those tape cassettes contain people who are now here live in the studio audience. We're going to do right here in the Channel 8 studio, a kind of encounter between some of the forces that can affect the outcome of the housing situation. That is to say, people at the state level, at the council, city council level, at the county level, people in the private sector that are builders, developers, and of course also... People of the city of Houston who are in our audience. So right now I would like to introduce you The people of the public sector who are here. Tom Bass, Harris County Commissioner. Houston Councilman Judson Robinson. The chief policy planner for housing for the mayor, Ken Austin. And vice president of the Greater Houston Builders Association, Mike Merrick. And the President of the Houston Apartment Association, Lester Proko. And I'd like to also, a round of applause for the people of the city of Houston, right here in our audience. And before we go ahead and what you will be listening to and participating in is a discussion on what can we do about the problem of housing. You will also hear the result of the audience vote from the last program, but before that we want to play you again a videotape. So here is a last videotape. The invisible city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=41.81,187.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e This could have been pictures describing poverty in rural America, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=196.51,199.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That's really amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=199.31,199.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e During this series, we've established that there's a housing crisis in Houston for the low and moderate income group. We have a large number of substandard houses. We have large number deteriorating environments. We have dwindling supply of housing for this group at precisely the time that thousands of people are moving into Houston each week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=202.72,220.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Where are you coming from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=221.01,221.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e So what this adds up to is that 29 percent of all households in the city need some form of federal housing assistance to get decent shelter. How many people live in this house? Nine of you live in the house. How big is it? Two bedrooms. Every fifth person lives in a substandard housing unit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=223.9,242.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, thank you. No, I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=242.57,243.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e She don't have a bathroom, she live in a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=244.06,246.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e And we have over a hundred square miles of deteriorating neighborhoods. So these are simply manifestations of a series of underlying problems, all of which add up to what we may call the Houston housing crisis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=247.47,259.769"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e In fact, it seems that what has really been well-documented in this series has been the symptoms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=260.459,266.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e I look at the housing problem of crisis, however we define it, as a multidimensional problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=267.94,273.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e For example, the problems may be economic. People simply cannot afford decent shelter. Or the problems maybe political. The low and moderate income group have not traditionally had equal access to the political decision making process, which has simply deflated their energies, which would allow them to get equal services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=274.64,293.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Men and minority groups have not had access to the below the process. So therefore, minority neighborhoods, many times, get overlooked when it comes down to spending this public money. Finally, we look at social issues.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=294.13,306.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e And we've had a history of prejudice in this town, so many people have not had access to decent shelter. We've had road lining in the city, which has been economic, but the reasons have also been social.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=308.64,318.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e In some parts of Houston today it's very difficult to borrow money to fix up your homes and to repair your homes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=319.34,325.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e And finally, in terms of the way the city has grown, the emphasis on less government is better has led to a form of planning and land use control that has not benefited those without the political clout, whose environments have been eroded by industry and commerce. So when we're seeking solutions to this problem, we have to realize that there are a myriad of solutions to the myriad underlying problems. There is not one solution, but a number of interrelated solutions that are possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=325.89,353.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e So you're not really talking about one problem, you're talking about a series of problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=354.19,358.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Our neighborhood is going down. Let's do something about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=359.1,363.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e People from the city and the viewing audience have given us their ideas on what the solutions are. 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Just each one say well let's clean up, let's paint up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=377.96,383.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's keep it light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=385.1,385.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e We have just got to take our own interests. We've got to work on attitudes of our community. If not, every community will deteriorate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=386.91,394.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Houston is full of people that are willing to volunteer for any worthy thing, from top-level executives down to housewives that are willing to give their time, solicit donations if that's the type of thing that's needed, to help people, because it is all one city. We could train welfare m-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=395.77,416.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e others to do this kind of work. And in the process, they could come out of that training and know how to start their own company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=417.03,424.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e You've got senior citizens sitting home all day. You can do very constructive things. You've boy scout troops. You've church groups. You've just got all kinds of resources in a neighbor. There's no reason for those resources to go unused. It's just a matter of people recognizing that they need to get together for the common good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=425.3,444.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e Just to form a group that would have available money for small home improvement loans. And if the people usually have a little credit somewhere, they usually can back it up. And maybe they'd want a thousand, fifteen hundred, two thousand, three thousand. These are small loans, and banks, they kind of turn up their nose. They're kind of tiny. But it would probably mean a lot, say, to that old lady whose whole roof was leaking. Several people have suggested that there are alternate...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=444.81,470.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Forms of housing that have never been tried in Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=470.98,473.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking about co-op housing as a possibility in this area, and it's brand new to Houston. It's never been tried, but it has been successful in other places to stabilize communities, to provide housing and a broad range of incomes. But it does emphasize the importance of community. Owning property, being able to make decisions relative to your property. And we feel that it's a very viable opportunity for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=473.34,513.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e There is a solution to these problems if we get the community involved in asking the questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=513.64,520.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The fate of the entire city hangs together, and we are a sort of family. I think that ultimately we have to decide to be a family and to have government and an economy that serves that entire family. I believe it can be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=520.929,533.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e I am American and I have seen us go to the moon, I have seen us win many wars except save one and our ingenuity has been tremendous through the years and somewhere along the way the Third Ward Reconstruction Finance Corporation still has a little faith in maybe the city fathers, maybe the major developers and maybe the people, the citizens, can get together and really devise a plan. Where this can become one of the most viable areas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=535.62,565.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e And finally we got together a group of people who were interested and involved in the production of housing for the Low and Moderate Income Group in Houston, and we got them together to thrash out what kinds of approaches are possible to solving the problem. This is simply excerpts from the discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=566.66,583.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 21:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you ask what is to be done, you might look for some historical perspective to answer that. There have been two times in our history when the nation as a whole and then communities as a part of the nation responded to the housing needs of the country and did something about it. President Roosevelt had said in 1936 we have a nation one third ill housed. In 1968, President Johnson brought the attention of the urban crisis to everyone. The civil rights movement helped create a need feeling, you see. So that's the first thing I think has to happen in what is to be done. People like ourselves, people like those watching, everybody, really needs to see and know and feel in their heart that we have a housing problem. Now, you have the problem. Then there has to be a consensus on what to do about it. And I would say this about what is be done, we have the capacity, we have tools to do the job. We have never lacked them. We have builders, like Mr. Perlman, all over the country who are perfectly capable of building all the housing that this country needs. They're ready, willing, and able. They cannot build housing, however, for low- and moderate-income people at a price they can afford. It's that simple. They never have been, and it never will be. The only way to close the gap is for the federal government to do it. And they've done it in many different ways. They've subsidized the land costs, they've subsidize interest costs, they've subidized rents, whatever it takes. Usually, it works best when they just help. They say, okay, we have some money to close the gap. You build the housing, close the gap.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=585.19,690.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not clear to me that, uh... Spending federal dollars is going to help solve any problem. And of course, it's always easy for us to say, as long as we perceive it as other people's money, that's always a good solution. Federal government alone spends approximately $200 billion a year in programs that are supposed to be oriented towards helping the poor. That can't close the gap. Listen, nothing can. We're talking about a dollar figure that you could put anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 a year directly into the hands of low-moderate income families. But instead, we decide to just botch things up through bureaucratic channels. And somehow, that $200 billion gets missing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=691.15,741.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e In a relatively worse position than we were when the first programs were originally formulated. So it seems to me, it's not a question of financing, it is not a questions of legislating, it's a question reformulating the problem. Institutional change for institutional change's sake is obviously absurd, but when we have not been able to treat housing for what we seem to think it is, as a fundamental human right, like education. You know, if we insist on talking about it as houses and providing legislation and spending billions of dollars as a question of supplying x number of units per year, obviously we fail to do that. And the resources have been at our disposal. Great minds, great policymakers, national efforts over the last two generations have been engaged in attempting to do this, to provide more houses. And where are we? So I must say, I find it. An absolute absurdity at this stage to talk about the tinkering with a system that has had ample opportunity to either prove itself or to sort of reject itself, to prove its own obsolescence, which I believe is what it's done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=743.8,817.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e Even today with our our national housing problem that this country is still the best house country in the world and that that has been done by the free enterprise system as compared to socialistic kind of countries where housing is provided by totally by by government. I think that in order to to solve the problems that we are talking about we need to dwell in. In practical solutions. If not the housing industry or not the construction industry, then who would provide the housing? When the federal government or any other government has gotten involved in housing, they've been miserable failures. So my view is that it has to be the free enterprise system and the industry that provides the housing for this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=818.05,869.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e But I'd like to challenge this notion that the U.S. Is flatly the best-housed country in the world. I think that doesn't bear any examination whatsoever. I think all the evidence available indicates that the problems with housing on a physical product level in this country are considerably higher than those which will obtain in most European countries, regardless of political ideologies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=870.43,898.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I agree with Tony. You know, if you live in the first ward now, the second ward, the third ward, you aren't necessarily comparing yourself with India or Sweden. You're comparing yourself possibly with Charlestown or some other housing area in Houston. So all of this is relative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=900.21,915.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e One thing that is is causing the problem is our definition of what standard housing is. Federal income tax laws almost require that middle income people and people of a certain income tax bracket buy instead of rent because the federal government government will subsidize a great deal of the purchase price. This causes us to be terribly over housed and that if we were burying the entire market. Cost of the product that we're buying, namely housing, we would buy about half what we are in fact consuming. That's for the middle income and elite groups. This sets the standard though for what housing should be at a very high level. Low-income groups look at it and say well that's what I'm supposed to have. And then the decision-makers in the process say yes the low-income people must have the same type of housing that's available for the middle class. As a result, we have probably unreasonably high standards for new construction for low income families. We have unreasonable occupancy limitations for public housing. And we have a lot of people who are living in very bad housing and cannot get out of it, partly because the standards for an alternative unit are too high. One possibility is that we follow the, the size. Of structure standards that exist in other parts of the world. It may be that the low-income people in this country will have to accommodate 500 square feet of living space for a small family, and that they may have to share bathrooms, they may have to have to kitchen facilities, and we may need at some point to revise totally the income tax structure that has caused the rest of us to be so terribly over-housed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=916.87,1033.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a suggestion that government regulations needed to be rethought because they're adding substantially to the cost of housing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1035.16,1041.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e It has been proven that 20% of the cost of housing today can be attributed direct to either local, state, or federal restrictions, a great many of which are not required in low and moderate housing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1042.55,1062.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e Up there's cost and there's costs and when the private developers place as they have in the past Houston subdivisions and floodplains because of a lack of regulation but there is a cost of cleanup and a cost to bail out that is not counted in the price of the lot. When the private developers pave over the entire upper watershed of the bio and cause increased runoff because of a lack with regulations then that too is a And I would like for us to be able to discriminate between those costs that increase the product and those regulations, which may be alleged to increase the cost, but which nevertheless decrease the total cost to the consumer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1063.97,1105.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e What I was speaking at is that there is a need to be sure that that regulations are cost effective. Now we may find that even though we do build in a floodplain and we are providing 30 30,000 houses in a floodplain. And if we do have a flood once every hundred years and we may flood out five or a thousand of those houses, but the cost effective and I'm just using a hypothetical example. That the cost-effectiveness of this may be worth that the danger that we do. And I'm not advocating building in the floodplain, but I'm saying that we need to apply some sort of cost-effective effectiveness against regulation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1106.9,1151.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e And then the idea that minority participation in all levels of the housing process is absolutely essential, since the problem is economic as well as that of housing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1152.54,1162.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 25:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem that we're looking at is the money does come in, comes in in form of subsidy. You know, develop this housing. The problem that I've addressed before is that the money comes in, comes into that community to provide the housing. Money then goes right through this community in terms of the low income community, et cetera, and goes into these builders in the private sector, which is fine. I'm a firm believer in the public sector as far as the developers and their ability. But what I've also added is, let's not leave out that these private developers need to be developers that are in the minority community. Because in effect what happens is you take these developers that are not from this community, simply the money goes in there, they leave, I mean they leave and they actually live away from that community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1163.48,1207.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 26:\u003c/strong\u003e Robert's comments about what we could do to support the minority businesses, I think, are valid long term. I would suggest, though, that if we are trying to come up with new institutions, as Tony has mentioned, that are going to affect the solution to housing and the total social scene as it exists in the neighborhood, that we're going to have to use the elements that are available today. If the minority large minority mortgage bankers are there, fine. I would suggest using them. Developers, if the large minority of developers are there fine. But when we're looking at a city where you've identified supposedly, what, 30%, 29% of the city housing is in a state of disrepair, we have a problem with that. On our city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1208.37,1254.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e I know, I said about 21%. 21%.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1254.03,1255.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 26:\u003c/strong\u003e We've got, we've got to marshal a lot of resources and a lot of those resources initially at least are going to have to come from outside of the community, the minority community. They're going to, we're going have to pull in a lot of people and it cannot just be minorities to solve the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1258.02,1273.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 22:\u003c/strong\u003e There must be other resources, other than federal resources, government resources, city resources that have to be put into this equation before anything like the scope of the problems even addressed. There is no reason in the world why the capabilities, the sheer, shall we say, work capacity of the population should not be mobilized. There's no reason why well-established processes such as sweat equity, contributions in terms of certain skills, which are to be found among everybody, those should not be tapped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1274.04,1314.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 23:\u003c/strong\u003e We do have programs that have involved such things as sweat equities. They have not been accepted by the public. In fact, part of an FHA program to even today is that a house can be bought at a cheaper price and no down payment, I believe it is, Tom, where the proposed homeowner would would provide the sweat equity. Not one in Houston has been provided that way in the last five years that I know about. And it's available today. So people have rejected that idea. I think I have five minutes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1315.4,1361.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 24:\u003c/strong\u003e Figured out what Tony is saying and which is why now I can say I'm I valid the disagree because you have just touched at the very heart of America which is I've got mine Jack and you go get yours if you can it you're you're you're attacking the free enterprise system the individualistic approach to the human destiny and you you are you're suggesting that there's no That there could be a community social support system where people would accept other people as part of the process of solution. I don't think this country is willing ever to accept that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1361.98,1402.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Finally, there were a series of questions as to the roles and responsibilities of different segments of society and different levels of government in resolving the housing problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1404.18,1413.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e For some reason or another, we cannot drive out of City Hall adequate sewers and streets and street lines and police protection and so forth. The question is, why does the federal government have to bribe the city through the Community Development Act to provide these types of activities? All of a sudden, you've got the reverse role. You've got to federal government to. Involved in something the city really should be doing. These are services that belong in the domain of the city And there are many cases where we've got government involved in the activities and at neighborhood levels and so forth where I think that our organization community organizations completely private could carry out that function and That we're not we're looking carefully enough at what functions and what levels of human organization should be involved in these different activities, all that have an important impact on the housing market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1414.65,1474.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e This whole idea of being impacted with massive social programs came about when, you know, in my perception many, many years ago when local groups or local governments abdicated the responsibilities for the minor problems which existed at that point to the states and the states ultimately abdicate that responsibility to the federal government. Then the great human cry went up to develop programs in the federal government By mandate of the people then began to have to develop something, developing one or two key programs which they were trying to impose nationwide in states where not even two cities were alike in a given state. Now we find ourselves in Houston in much the same kind of situation with housing. We're at the point now that we've got a serious housing problem. The question becomes, are we going to abdicate that now to somebody else to solve, or are we going solve it ourselves?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1475.73,1537.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Are we going to abdicate that now for someone else to solve, or are we going do it ourselves? What role do you play? What roles do all the other elements that have an influence on our destinies play? We're going to find that out now in the following discussion. And at this moment, I'd like to introduce to you my co-worker in this project, the project director, Adelno de Santos. What was the result of the vote, of the audience vote, Adele?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1538.9,1576.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, the advisors to the project, after watching the series of tapes with us, asked the question of the audience. It was, should the public take a strong leadership role in formulating policies and plans to guide the future growth of Houston? And we had 52 respondents. 49 said yes, and three said no. But this is only one piece of the puzzle. So I'd like to now turn to our panelists here. Around starting with you, what are your suggestions from your perspective?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1576.7,1612.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 27:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's a pleasure to serve on your panel here this evening and outlining the many problems that the city of Houston has at the present time in housing and they have had for many, many years, the problems that have to be solved will, I think, be solved by public input into these problems and the... By benefit of those in the private sector and the public sector and it's a joint community problem and it is going to take work by the community and everyone involved to solve these problems and bring it into a better perspective than it is at the present time. It cannot be done immediately or overnight but it's just a continual working on this problem that will bring some good results.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1614.36,1662.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Mike, could I ask you, you're saying the private-public interface is really the essential ingredient. Do you support this, or do you have a different point of view?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1663.55,1671.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it strikes me that, first of all, you have to define what your objective is. And I'm not sure there is a defined objective. We have, as is rather well known, an extensive need for rehabilitation in certain parts of the city. I know of no program that addresses that issue or, if it does, has in any way solved that issue. We have undoubtedly as a need low-cost housing for people who might otherwise be willing and able to buy it. I know of nothing short of a developer going in and taking the economic risk involved that would provide incentive to go in a otherwise perhaps low income area and develop houses and provide them for the people. The system that exists, namely that loan qualification system for approving buyers, the code system that provides and puts extra burdens on for the houses. Defeats any objective that might address itself to that. So I think, yes, it is solvable. But I think you first of all start it by saying, here's my objective, and let's break it into some pieces and see if we can solve it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1673.68,1743.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e I tend to agree with what's been said so far. I think it might be interesting to note that from the public standpoint and from what the mayor has been interested in over the past year, in fact since he took office, is the very issue of revitalization and the issue of how to assist in solving the housing problem. One of the major inputs that he has had... Various parts of his offices has been to try and have some impact through development of policy statements, succinct policy statements and specific activities toward revitalization, notably the development of an urban policy which will, as part of it, contain a housing policy and will, to my knowledge, be the first time the city has stated what its position is, what it wants to do, and what its role will be in housing, and the development of a revitalization division within the city, the continued strong support also of the other various divisions that deal with revitalization and with housing, housing authority community development. And I think out of our various meetings with the private sector, with the public, We've come to understand that, yes, the important thing is the interface. The city cannot provide all the money in the world. Let's try and determine what the broad aspect and direction of the city should be, and then go from there to the objectives, specifically what can be done, who plays what role, and how much money is it going to take? Where is it gonna come from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1746.88,1853.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you agree with Mike that we haven't got a goal yet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1853.87,1855.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e I think we have some goals, and I think there are some common goals, but I'm not sure that the real objectives that he was discussing are there, and those being achievable things over a specific time period. I'm sure that there's any agreement between the public, the government, and the private sector, the builders and developers, on what those are and when they should occur.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1856.65,1879.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 30:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that we have to apply a bold stroke. I think the public-private joint venture thing has been talked to death. I think now it's time for us as members of the City Council to take an affirmative position as it relates to housing. The City has circumvented its responsibility as it related to housing for a number of years. The creation of the Houston Public Housing Authority being... One of the twos that the city recognized as a responsibility in providing housing, but I think that we've got to have input and productivity from both the public and the private sector. Now how you put those two together and make the formula work is the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1882.37,1923.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 31:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I can't help thinking a little bit historical. A little more optimistic, possibly. I can remember a combination of government restrictions and private enterprise under Roosevelt helped get us out of the Depression. And I can Remember right after World War II, the combination of the GI housing loan and the private sector made a tremendous amount of housing available for returning veterans. I think, though, that for us to say that the government no longer has a role that that. The restriction government puts on it are not cost-effective is not in fact the case. I think the government needs to be sure that the citizenry is not getting taken for a ride when they plunk down their hard-earned dollars for housing. I agree with an earlier assessment made by Prof. Mixon, maybe we need to look and see what type of housing we want. But once that decision is made, I think we in the government sector ought to be sure that this citizen gets what he's paying for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1927.0,1983.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 32:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you have to approach it on two levels, certainly the private and the public sector. I think that we need to understand the problem right now, especially in the inner city. The district that I represent is not so much the availability of funds, but the availability of sewer capacity. EPA has put a restriction on the number of permits let out in those neighborhoods so that even if you wanted to build a new nicer house, it would be difficult. I think the other problem that we've got to look at is certainly that the private sector's got to be involved. An individual that even if he or she wants to build a home, you can't find the money. You can't the interim financing to do the building. I think that the thing that we need to be very careful about when we start developing that housing though is that as we upgrade those communities out there we need to understand that we don't raise the values of those properties such that the taxes will run the poor people right out of those neighborhoods. There's a disincentive in developing your neighborhoods at this point, and that's the tax structure. You've got to provide some tax incentives for people to go up and clean up their neighborhoods, because it doesn't do a bit of good to clean up the neighborhood and bring it up and then run the very people off that have lived there all their lives because they can't pay the taxes. I think that you've got take that into consideration whenever you formulate whatever the plan is that you want to formulate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=1986.72,2065.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Ken, tell me, is there right now a published document that people can read that says, you know, that is the policy plan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2066.53,2072.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e No, there's not. That is underway. In fact, it's a project that my office is heading up. I think the closest thing to it is the results of the discussions that went on in various areas of policy decision over the past year when the mayor appointed some 85 citizens on the Urban Policy Development Board. And through a series of meetings that lasted over several months, that committee, which was broken into subcommittees, came out with various statements on basically what they thought the city should be doing, recommendations, actually. And we're taking that and developing it into policy statements, which we hope to present soon to the mayor for his acceptance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2072.969,2121.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e One question I wanted to ask of you, Mike, is we're often told that the builders in Houston are very busy, you know, building what's out there. I mean, you, know, and that it would take a lot to get them involved in government finance programs. Is this correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2122.43,2138.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, most of the builders, and perhaps I'm representative, are fairly small businessmen. I have a very small company with few employees. I'm constantly measuring the risk of the sort of things I get into. I'm small enough so that if I went into any particular development which subsequently proved to be unsuccessful, it could bankrupt me. So needless to say, my approach to things would be cautious. There are no lead pipes itches, but but one tries to minimize the possibility of failure There are a whole bunch of builders that I'm familiar with that While perhaps not altruistic do give a darn about the city and would like to participate in some way That doesn't necessarily risk everything they have in Providing housing now clearly they're profit oriented But I think that is a meldable desire on their part with the objectives that are expressed here I think it can be done, but it starts with the definition. Here's the problem, here are the objectives, and as was suggested, taking that into little bits and pieces and proceeding with something, rather than trying to deal with this whole great thing and say we need a new federal governmental agency. It isn't gonna work. It's gonna work if we do it, and if we participate in it, strides can be made, in my view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2139.93,2221.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Adele, questions are beginning to build up here on the floor. We're going to take them as they come here right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2221.86,2227.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 33:\u003c/strong\u003e Real estate interests dictate what happens here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2230.48,2233.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 34:\u003c/strong\u003e Town. Politicians get their money from the same real estate people and they carry out their programs. Many of the lands that this poor housing is in has been earmarked already for new town houses, etc. And the MTA is is one of the vehicles that they will use to clear this land away. So we're talking about something that has already been decided. Everything's already in place. And as long as poor people are disenfranchised, as long as poor do not vote, as long as people do not help finance a man that's going to represent them in public office, there is no solution to the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2235.83,2278.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Who would like to take that one up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2281.04,2282.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 30:\u003c/strong\u003e As a member of the Houston City Council, Mr. Doe is a friend, a hope, and he appears before council on occasions, especially as it relates to MTA. And I can say to Mr. DOE, I can't speak for my colleagues on council, but as a person who's been on council for eight years, I can assure you that a very small percentage of the money that I receive running for office comes from, quote, the real estate interests. I can speak for the other persons on council. But Houston is a. A booming dynamic city and a real estate community has played a very important part in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2283.86,2318.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 32:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me just add a little bit to that. You've touched on probably what's really the most important factor in determining not only the development of real estate and development of housing, but all the other factors involved in city government, and that's the way that people get elected. I think this election coming up is going to be the first opportunity, while not what I wanted to see as far as single-member districts are concerned, but certainly the first opportunity where you can impact a single-member district councilman or council person from your district. And I think that the key there is not a whole lot of money in those districts, but the key there is a whole lotta participation in. While we only have about 30 days before that election, I think the more people that are involved in that election the more impact that the grassroot people have on future expansions in that housing field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2318.84,2363.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 31:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to piggyback on what Ben says there because I was in the legislation when you had to run county wide and I fought for single member districts there and for the school district and for city council. And I had seen the difference in Austin when I went to Austin is extremely difficult for people with extreme political persuasions either extreme right extreme left to go to Austin. Now we have some very liberal and some very conservative representatives from Houston Harris County area and I don't think you would have that if you didn't have your single member district. I think the city council is going to be. Considerably different. Here we have another gentleman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2364.39,2396.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 35:\u003c/strong\u003e I very much feel that it is the lack of representation, very especially with that of reference to Denver Harbor. OK, let's start at the top. We have a many Congress, Eckhart. Only comes around election time to shake hands and get votes. Had not done really anything for Denver Harbor, we have a councilman that has meant to do good, Councilman Robinson, but hasn't been able to. We also have Another politician by the name of Ben Reyes that has yet, I have not seen him and I've been in all the meetings I would say of the community development or our men's transit where we have the most problems. I have no seen him. Lack of representation that we do not have it. Yet they come over and offer us all the solutions. The solutions are in our neighborhoods with action. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2397.63,2449.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 36:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2450.65,2453.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 32:\u003c/strong\u003e Want to respond? I'd be glad to respond to that. I think that while certainly we haven't had a lot of miracles performed out in the Denver Harbor area we've got probably one of the most active organized athletic programs among the children out there that any community in the city of Houston's gotten while the Denver harbor gym is certainly not the best gym in in the City of Houston I think Councilman Robinson has done a good deal about getting some of the money out there and while certainly They haven't done the best job in town of revitalizing that gym and that community out there. There have been some efforts made to try and develop that community and a productive community. I think one of the most active communities in the city of Houston, and I certainly don't think that the view that Mr. Vara had is that that's prevalent among the people in Denham Harbor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2456.66,2505.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 35:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree with the children. How about our poor senior citizens in Denver Harbor that have not been able to get nutrition and you promise it to them every time you turn around. Tell us something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2505.55,2515.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 32:\u003c/strong\u003e The senior citizens in Denver Harbor at the Denver Harbor Library, I was there last week and the city went for three months without putting air conditioning in there. I personally got a private contractor to go out there and do the air conditioning so that Mr. Viref, if you go out to that senior citizen center out there, they've got a new air conditioning system, not because the city paid for it, but because people from the Denver harbor area put the money together to pay for the air-conditioning. That's the first step. Certainly one that's positive. I don't think it's all that needs to be done out there, but it's a beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2515.99,2546.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 35:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but it's good we need no explanation. We don't need the explanation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2546.97,2549.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 37:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, we have another gentleman. Mike, recently in Dallas, Texas, the city council gave a guarantee to Fox and Jacobs, whereby Fox and Jacob's would build a project right downtown. What this was was a guarantee, a fair return on their investment. Would you in the city of Houston back something along this line, either multifamily or single family? Either one of you gentlemen can answer. Mr. Prokop and Mr. Marricks, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2552.68,2578.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e I am somewhat familiar with the project in Dallas that you're talking about. And if I understand the thrust of this get together and the point of this whole thing, namely providing housing on basically a low cost basis, that project in Dalas has got to rank as a failure. Those house prices up there start in something like the $80,000 price category. It has also taken something on the order of three or four years to get that thing off dead center. So, given... What I presume to be the premise here, namely, let's see if we can figure out a way to, A, fix up what we've got and, B, provide more low-cost housing. That doesn't seem to be a solution. It would indicate, though, a willingness on the part of government to address the problem in concert with the private developers. I think that's a step in the right direction. As I say, I don't think that Dallas solution is what we're aiming at or at least talking about here now. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2579.7,2633.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e My name is Cora Johnson. I'd like to direct my first question to Mike. I don't know the last name. But you mentioned something about being a small builder and you said we should get out and do whatever it is. Now when you say we, who do you mean by what we?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2635.6,2653.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not sure I said exactly what you suggested. I mentioned that I'm a small builder, and we, I suspect, my reference was towards those of us who are the members of the Greater Houston Builders Association. That is a very active group of builders, all independent members, who spend a great deal of time addressing things that are basically civic things. Getting into participation on a community lever, Commissioner Bass is familiar with our activities in this regard. I think you will. Definitely find the GHBA, the Houston Builders, disposed to involve themselves in things like this if they judge it to be something that's solvable. They're really not interested in going down blind alleys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2655.45,2697.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the reason I ask you that, your we would not help the situation as far as I'm concerned as being one of the moderately low income persons. I think it would be better if the involvement of these persons that know what it's all about would be more involved in this to relate to you and the builders and what should be done. And then my other part of the question would be... Uh, one of our problems in our area is, uh, the tax situation. This is one of the things that's bothering the low income persons. They have homes and in one of areas, they can't, uh keep their homes because of the, uh tax in the area where they are, uh going up and, uh commercial, uh, residential area. And this is keeping them from maybe repairing or doing what they should do with their homes. This is another situation, and it would not come from the builders. It would come, like this gentleman said, the involvement of the citizens, the persons this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2698.88,2766.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 30:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, one of the things we've tried to do in dealing with the problem that you've described and that Ben mentioned earlier is that as of January this year, the city of Houston has made it possible for persons who qualify, senior citizens, to receive upwards of $15,000 in credit for their taxes. Now, of course, that doesn't solve the problem, but that is a city's effort, a step in the city's direction. To help with the problem of increased taxes and increased values of property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2767.04,2802.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 27:\u003c/strong\u003e There we have one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2803.14,2803.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. Perkoff wanted to answer that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2803.64,2805.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 27:\u003c/strong\u003e I wanted to add something to the remarks that were made here about housing and that that is being provided for the low income families. Diverse a little bit here. You know there's been much much activity in the apartment industry and building apartments. Many of the units have been built in a single family have been built. That doesn't seem to interest you folks. That's what makes Houston grow. And then this year alone there in the in the subsidized area so to speak. The public housing authority has constructed and will construct about 400 units. That's in new construction. There'll be about 93 acquisitions. In the 202 program, that is direct loans from the treasurer, there's going to be about 150 units constructed. And then in the Section 8 program, there is about 800 units that are made available in that area. And as you know, in those areas, the occupant is admitted and pays 25 percent of their salary for their rental fee. Now there's areas and they're being expanded upon and there's more planned in the future on this. And I also want to say that. Having these units constructed is works in conjunction with the private sector and with the government area areas and it's a combination of working together and getting these these produced and want to bring that point out. And also there I'd like to bring out this figure too if I may that there's probably about 400 some 400000 apartment units in Harris County. I can't break it down to the city by itself. And There's always apartment units becoming available and the statistics indicate that there are approximately 60 to 70 percent turnover in apartment units during a year. So there's a turnover where apartment units are available and in various price ranges to accommodate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2805.58,2930.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, we have another. Okay, I'd like to address the question to the panel in general and indicate that Mr. Prokof's figures were absolutely correct. He's zeroed in on what we've done subsidy-wise. But these are items, I think, that any one or more agencies and our private individuals can get involved in through governmental programs. If we recognize, and clearly the panel has recognized, the need for more involved partnerships of the public and private sector, I'd like to address the panel to, or ask the panel, to address the question of how we can approach this and kick some ideas around in terms of where do we start. That was Bill McClellan of the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2930.9,2978.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Houston, a director at Houston Housing Authority. Could you pick some ideas around it very briefly so we can get some more questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2978.96,2984.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e OK, I'd like Ken to take that one on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2984.48,2986.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2986.96,2987.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I think the point is that there's been a lot of discussion for really five or six years about public-private partnerships, I mean, you know, and there's very little of it out there. It appears the builders are willing. There seems to be something wrong with the programs. What can the city do about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=2988.73,3003.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 29:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I think it's, once again, it's a tough question, and there's not a pat answer. Some of the things that we have discussed is trying to deal more directly with just coordinating the efforts that exist, trying to target them more toward things that are done, trying to clear out the problems that occur because the private sector doesn't know who to talk to in the city. That's that's the first step that we're trying to take right now and then once again we're into trying a more long-range approach of where do we really want to go and hopefully within a couple of months the discussion will begin of what are the objectives we're try to reach where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3003.81,3046.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e one other question I mostly Johnson I'm with welfare rights my area of town is fifth ward area and I saw on TV where the man addressed a question that there are so many millions of dollars goes into housing every year and he didn't see well that this had anything to do with people not having somewhere to live the railroads in my yard I don't have anywhere to go I was in your series and I'm still not any further after these five series, we're in a worse condition. And what I want to know, if so many million is going into this, why do I not have a place to live right now? Why am I looking for a place? And I would like to ask the builder this question, would you rent to a welfare recipient or would you build a welfare recipient a house? Now you suggest loans, but would you do this for low-income people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3048.16,3102.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e That's to Mike Merricks. OK, the question is, would I rent to a welfare recipient?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3103.95,3108.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Welfare recipient house you were suggesting ideas about in the panel we had somebody I'm talking about building homes for people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3109.38,3118.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, maybe you're asking two questions. Would I build him a house, which implies selling it? And I think what you want to know is, would I rent something to a welfare recipient? The answer to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3118.75,3128.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Answer to that. Would you build one house? Would you build a low income person a house knowing that they can't there are no loans available to low income people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3128.37,3137.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 28:\u003c/strong\u003e Given that set of circumstances, the only choice that's available is to rent it to them. And the answer to your question is yes, because I have a sure source of income. My rent is virtually assured, whereas just dealing with the public at large, there's a monthly question whether or not my rent's going to be paid. So the answer, the question as I choose to interpret it, is yes of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3139.43,3161.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, where I live, there's going to be over a thousand people out of a house and home because of Southern Pacific Railroad. And I have moved seven or eight times and there's nowhere else to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3163.18,3174.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 30:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that the enlargement of the Englewood yard you're talking about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3175.77,3177.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, are you also saying that one of the problems, at least we have had discussions, that the welfare money that you get almost guarantees that you're going to live in a substandard house, because there's not enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3181.09,3192.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I have one person ahead of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3193.35,3194.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 36:\u003c/strong\u003e We didn't even need a chair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3194.97,3195.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3200.53,3200.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3202.839,3202.839"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have anything to say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3203.73,3204.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e She has no question. And now she wants to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3205.2,3207.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why? What was the answer? Because I didn't like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3207.58,3209.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I said, welfare money doesn't give you an option but to live in a tent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3209.96,3214.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 36:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3215.97,3216.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 38:\u003c/strong\u003e Our city fathers. I guess my concern is more in the area of the quality of life of the people of Houston given these problems that this program has so adequately covered. Housing, transportation, mass transit, and has does our left hand know what our right hand is doing? Our chamber of commerce is putting forth what a Mecca Houston is, beckoning people here, but are they also saying what all the problems are in this city? Are they taking that into account? I mean, we can't impact any of these programs immediately, but we can stop advertising for people to come here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3225.52,3272.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 31:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, first, I am not a city councilman. I'm a county commissioner, and believe me, as far as what I can do with restrictions, there's a considerable difference. But speaking in general terms, I think we ought to acquaint people with the negative side of Houston. Certainly I think there are more positive aspects of Houston than negative. But I do believe that people coming here thinking everything is rosy are misled, and we need to be a little bit more realistic. I would, did you want to go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3275.06,3302.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Robinson, you want to play it out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3302.97,3304.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 30:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that one of the things that shows by this program tonight is that the city of Houston is now studying and planning, trying to correct problems that exist, looking at the conditions of other major cities in America, seeing what they've done wrong, using them as as you would a drawing base to better improve the quality of life for the people of this of this city. Our planning department, City of Houston's planning department is one of our larger departments. When I first became a member of city council, it was a small, not strong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3304.27,3339.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We only have a very few more minutes. And I want to know if you, all of you came here with some question inside of you. Has it been answered? Is it, are you getting there? Are we getting there or are we just pussyfooting around? OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3341.53,3354.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e My question is directed to everyone on the panel, and it calls for your opinion. I've finally reached a point in my life where I can buy a house, but unfortunately, I can't afford one. I saw on the news the other day that the average price for a house nowadays is something like $80,000. My question, is have we reached a point in this country where you cannot grow up and buy a house anymore? And if we have reached that point... Should we do something about telling people that you can't grow up anymore and buy a house because it costs too much money? Should we change that part of the American dream?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3356.0,3395.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 27:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to answer that question. We have an economic social problem here in housing and the builders and the people in the public sector also I don't think have any control over the inflation there is going on here and the increase in prices and the and that sort of thing. And my heart bleeds for you. For $80,000 you can't buy a house. We would like to be able to produce you a house for $10,000 or an apartment for rent at $100 a month, but the economic thing is not there. I can't answer your question because I don't believe that there's a solution that I can tell you what the solution is. Thank you, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3398.55,3439.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, sir. We have someone burning right here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3438.78,3441.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 39:\u003c/strong\u003e My name is Maria Martinez and I'm also with Welfare Rights and I'd like to tell the gentlemen that answer the question of Ms. Johnson about the steady income. Now, how unrealistic can you get? Do you know that poor people like us are going through a computer breakup and that we don't have any money to pay rents? Because we're not getting our checks on time and also, I would like to say that even though Houston Invisible City has been on for five series, I have not seen any visible changes. People are still living in deplorable conditions, and people are still being evicted, and people still living bad. Now it's about time that somebody does something about it. The question is who?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3443.59,3481.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The question is over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3483.0,3484.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3487.03,3487.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e One half of a minute. So you've got a half of of a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3488.339,3490.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I would say that all of these programs that the City of Houston has as far as housing and rehabilitation and what have you, it's in a deplorable state, in a chambles, it's a dismal failure, and they're not reaching the people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3492.3,3508.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, thank you very much. We want to thank our distinguished panel. I want to think Adele Santos. I especially want to you, the audience and people of Houston, for helping us make the Invisible City.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3509.52,3518.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e This is describing poverty in rural America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3528.76,3530.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Isn't it amazing? It's a very rural.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3531.48,3533.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e This could have been pictures describing poverty in rural America, you know. Isn't it amazing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618#t=3533.71,3536.85"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/236/collection_resources/14110/file/272618/transcript/79958/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/958/original/trint_Invisible-City:-Houston's-Housing-Crisis;-Part-5:-Solutions-%28James-Blue-and-Adele-Santos,-1979%29_transcript.vtt?1747333159","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/958/original/trint_Invisible-City:-Houston's-Housing-Crisis;-Part-5:-Solutions-%28James-Blue-and-Adele-Santos,-1979%29_transcript.vtt?1747333159"}]}]}]}