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Bitter because of the strike which threatens 79,000 jobs in mill and timber operations in Oregon, Washington, and Northern California. Here with his 33 cents worth is Harvey Nelson, president of Region 3 of the International Woodworkers of America. Mr. Nelson will present the viewpoint of the worker's position in this front page dilemma. And the suite. The lumber market, soaring to heights which were predicted by this report five months ago, even if it did take a strike to ignite it. And now, here with the sweetest music this side of heaven, for the operators, is Lyle Baker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=13.77,57.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Construction couldn't do it. Money couldn't do it but the threat of a shutdown in production has done it. The market is not only moving it's jumping. How high can a fiberglass pole lift a vaulter. Nobody really knows. Just as nobody knows how high this market can go. Generally plywood next week will be up eight dollars over two weeks ago. Roseburg lumber is quoting sixty eight dollar list with shipment beyond the 24th of June. Peg sanded A.D. For next week at 68 57 87 116 132 and 150. You're taking a chance on buying A.C. At 75 98 130 148 and 168. We refuse to put a lid on this market. We know it will be higher. Sheathing is hot. The hottest item in the plywood market. There is speculation all over the map. We would say that 50 percent of activity is because of demand and the balance 50 percent is speculation. Sheathing was caught in a peculiar situation with no inventories at mill level and very little in the warehouses. We predict that next week sheathing will be at 56, 64, 89, 98 and 124. And don't discount the fact that a lot of mills will start quoting price at time of shipment. So much for Lumber is $3 up from last week straight across the board. Let me give you an idea of what it costs to buy lumber at mill level today. Green standard and better fur for California is growing at 67 on 2x4s, 69 on 2 by 6s, 71 on 2 by 8s, 74 on 2 but 10s, and 75 on 2 by 12s. If you weren't specified, you're going to pay $76 for 2x 4x 16s. 75 for 2x6 14, 74 for 2 x 6 18, 73 for 2 by 12 12, 74 for 2 X 8 20s, 75 for to 2 X 10 14s, and 75 for 2 X 12. Take your choice 12 foot through 20 foot. And don't think you're going to buy them in any quantity or any cheaper. Let's take a look at studs for a moment. Green furs at 59 to 60 dollars as we predicted six weeks ago. Dry fur and or fur and larch at 66, and white fur at 66 firm, and they're not going to come down for the summer. The time is gone, the turtle said, and the mincing market has finally grown the legs of a jackrabbit. We expect it to approach kangaroo dimensions by leaps and bounds. Now here's Harvey Nelson. Harvey, I think it's time a couple of loggers, old loggars, got together and talked over this strike situation. What's the viewpoint of the Union and what do you think is going to occur?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=71.979,252.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To start with, the members who work in this industry have not received a major wage increase since 1959. That's four years, Harvey. That is four years. Last year, as the industry and most everyone else was pleading poverty on behalf of the industry, this union rather than to ask its members to strike with grew its wage demand. However, in doing so, we served notice at that time on the industry, as well as everyone else, that we expected a substantial wage increase in 1963, or strike action would be taken. This year, we opened our contracts, which expired in the most part on June 1. For a $0.40 an hour general wage increase, for recognition of some manner, for the problems being created as a result of automation in the industry, for some special consideration for some of the higher skills in the ministry, and for travel time for loggers. Loggers travel on company busses. In excess of four hours a day, in addition to the time they spend working on the job in which they're paid for, we've requested the industry to give recognition to some form of compensation to the loggers, at least for part of the time in which are required to spend traveling to and from work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=255.35,364.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Harley, I can remember when we used to go on the old mulligans. You remember the old box strategy you used to have on the railroad with the pot bellied stove in the middle of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=365.06,372.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=373.19,373.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sometimes it used to take us six hours to get back and forth to work. Do you think there ought to be some change now, eh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=374.4,379.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I think as you know the industry and as I know it, the fact that each time that a setting is completed means that the next time the loggers must travel that much further to go to work the next day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=380.97,397.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You gotta move to the timber, it's not gonna move to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=397.13,399.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e As negotiations proceeded this year. Some recognition was given by the industry to the problem of automation and has agreed to set up a committee to study the problem with this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=402.7,417.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How did they approach it, Harvey?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=418.19,419.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Only to propose that we set up a joint committee to consider and make recommendations from time to time on the problems resulting from automation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=420.49,430.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, you sit down and see if you couldn't solve the problem before you came to it, is that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=431.37,435.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=436.3,436.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a very intelligent and a very statesman-like approach to it on both sides, I'd say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=437.19,442.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e As to travel time for loggers, they have given just one answer, and that answer is no. Is that a flat no, Harvey? That's been a flat, no, up to date. I see. As to money, they... The highest proposal that we have received is $0.08 an hour general wage increase with some recognition for some of the higher skills, particularly in the manufacturing plants. And a 1.5% increase for 1964 and a 2.25% increase for 1965.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=443.71,485.54"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What does that amount to in cents, roughly, Harvey, on the present wage scale?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=487.08,490.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, about $0.05 for $0,64, and, uh... Probably 6 to 6 and 1 half cents and 65.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=493.08,501.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Somewhere around 22, 23 cents for the next three years, eh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=502.75,506.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Our estimation is that it's a fraction over 21 cents. I see. I think it might also be noted that this is the first time in the history of bargaining, to my knowledge, that an approach has been taken for a three-year term contract. We was one who helped institute the approach. We believe that. Particularly because of the blues being cried last year by the industry and because of fast changing within the industry with this method of operation, that the employers in this industry would welcome the opportunity to sit down and bargain and establish conditions over a long-term contract that would permit them the opportunity to make long-range planning. We haven't found that to be the case up to date. We have said to them that if you want a three-year term contract, which they have said they do want, then you're going to have to give some fair recognition to the wage structures for the people who is working in the industry that you can't have the contract covering 64 and 65 for the amounts of money which they've offered up to date. There's one other important factor that's involved in these negotiations and may become one of the most important, while everybody, of course, thinks of money and talks of money. Most of the employers in the industry, and this is particularly true in the Big Six and with the Timber Operators Council Association, They have requested. That we agree with them to revise the hours of labor, reestablishing the work week, which this union was successful in obtaining through negotiations in the War Labor Board in 1942.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=507.07,637.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you mean, revise it, Harvey? I don't understand what you mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=638.48,641.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The present contracts provide that with the exception of powerhouse employees and watchmen, that the work week will commence on Monday and end on Friday. For those two classifications, they may end or may start on other days of the week and, of course, end on other day with two consecutive days off. In those cases, the industry is not required to pay overtime or penalty pay for Saturday and Sunday as such. And all other work from 1942. The work schedule is Monday through Friday and any work performed on Saturday and Sunday is recognized as penalty work and time and a half is to be paid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=643.42,693.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This is a bedding pattern which has been established and conformed to, let's say, in the last 15, 18 years, Harvey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=693.86,700.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, a little longer now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=701.34,702.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Harvey, we're old friends, so I can, let's say, throw in a disagreement, can't I? Harvey, do you think it's fair for, let say, a man to go to work on Friday, on regular time, and then do you that just because it's Saturday and Sunday, he should get overtime for it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=703.2,718.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=719.45,719.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why do you, Harvey? I've always been curious about this particular point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=720.19,723.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Whether or not he works on Saturday is his employer's choice, not his.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=724.92,729.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, you would consider the established work week from Monday through Friday, and then the Saturday and Sunday, that's an employer's charge, and he should, let's say, in effect pay a wage, additional wage. I won't call it a penalty, Harvey, but he should call it an additional wage to require that man to work on those days. Is that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=729.99,748.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is correct, and Mr. Baker, if we will reminisce back into our days of logging, I'm sure that you will recall when it was not uncommon for the employers in this industry to lay us off for various reasons during the week, and we could always move donkey or some other such work on Saturday and Sunday at straight time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=748.66,772.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Matter of fact, Harvey, I think I've done that a few times. And my old man was running the locker jam. I was just as mad as anybody else. I see your point, Harvey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=772.82,781.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So it is those things that brought those conditions about. The membership of our union will not give them up. So it may become one of the paramount issues beyond the many issue before the dispute is settled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=781.83,804.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, this particular thing is rather a firm stand that the union is going to take regardless of what happens on money, eh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=804.45,810.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The answer is yes. There's been several times over the last 21 or 22 years that the industry has attempted to make this revision in the contract. And each time, we have resisted. And we expect to resist in 1963.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=813.36,832.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Harvey, taking a look at you, and you're just about as tough as you were 20 years ago. I can understand that that resistance could be pretty firm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=833.54,839.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We have been told by our membership that we represent that under no circumstances are we to agree to relinquish those provisions within that hours of labor town track.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=842.92,857.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think that's your privilege, and I think that's one of those things that you have a right to demand and to follow up and back up as you can. I mean, I'm interested in the fact that, as I understand it, the union struck actually two plants. I understand in the last day or two there have been some developments beyond that as far as people being out of work. What does to signify.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=857.25,886.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What happened? Well, we chose to strike two employers. Namely, of course, the US Plywood Corporation and all of their operations and St. Regis. It could have been any other two. It happened to be our decision to strike those two. Following that strike, and I just today We received copies of the letters from several of... The other four companies, which makes up the so-called Big Six Association, notifying the local unions and notifying each one of their employees that they are closing down until further notice, that we have no control over. It's their decision. And as they have said to us many times, as we have indicated, strike action would be taken. I now say to them, you'll have to live with that decision, it's yours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=887.81,949.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think the strike will spread farther than that, Harvey? What's going to happen for us is, as I understand, the Timber Operators Council represents some 100 or so members. Do you it'll spread into that before we get through?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=950.19,963.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it's possible and maybe probable. Of course, that answer will have to depend upon the people representing Timber Operators Council.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=964.49,974.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And substance are there demands the same as the big six did in the negotiations with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=974.95,981.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is correct. They, too, want to revise the hours of labor, and they, too have given us substantially up-to-date, the same answers as has Big Six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=982.7,992.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How about the big independents like Georgia Pacific, Roseburg, for instance, and Simpson? Are they in the middle of negotiations at the same time on a separate basis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=993.12,1001.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They are in negotiations on a separate basis. We expect to resume negotiations with Simpson next week. We hope to resume negotiation with the Georgia-Pacific real soon. And of course, following those negotiations, decisions will be made as to whether or not it's advisable to extend the picket line to other operations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1003.0,1027.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Harvey, if this strike should go on for 30 days, and of course, we're all conscious of the fact that there are our government boards set up to step into a manner of this way and either to arbitrate or conciliate and so forth. Do you expect that this strike will go on to that particular period where the government would step into it? I think it may be possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1028.41,1053.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, you anticipate a long strike on this thing, Harvey, eh? I don't know whether I anticipate a Longwind or not, but we are prepared for a LongWind if it becomes necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1054.03,1063.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me, Harvey, if the problem of, let's say, the travel time for loggers and so forth could be resolved or let's say an agreement could be reached on it, do you think that there is an unabridgable gap as far as the wage demands are concerned, or do you that within the demands or the offering of the operators and the demands of the unit, there's, let say, some room for compromise?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1065.06,1090.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think I have to say, there's always room for some compromise if reasonable people wants to sit down and attempt to work out a reasonable settlement. However, I wish to point out to you that the present demands of this union is well within the framework of settlements made this year throughout this land on contract negotiations. In fact... The loggers and sawmill men today are receiving a less common labor wage rate than are the retail clerks in the city of Portland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1092.15,1131.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right, Harv? That I didn't know. I can recall back in, oh golly, when was it? Back in 1940s when the statement was made that the workers in the lumber industry were the highest paid workers in the United States for their particular skills. What happened in the last 15 years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1131.85,1147.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is only one of the misconceptions that the public has been taught to believe. It is not a fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1148.48,1154.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right Harvey? Let's say with the militant movement of unions in the last 15, 20 years to raise the standard from wages in other basic industries, how come it hasn't been raised in lumber? Is it because the lumber industry has been depressed or why Harvey?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1155.21,1174.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, of course, there has been those years when it's been depressed, and probably one of the answers is that the lumber industry was late in getting organized and late in getting started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1175.73,1186.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Gosh, I can remember when they got organized. As I recall, I was in on that sawmill and timber workers number one. Is that probably your union?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1187.15,1194.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1194.95,1195.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that was a rough organizing thing. That was back in 32, wasn't it, Harvey? 1933. 1933. I think we went through one, as I recall, about six months before when they had the Longshoreman Strike in San Francisco, which was the first one I ever got involved in. I can certainly remember when they came in and organized in Vernonia on that sawmill and timber workers number one. Harvey, if this thing goes through the summer, What effect do you think that it's going to have on the economy and the lumber industry itself? Do you think they're in a financial position that, let's say that they're prepared to battle this thing out to a long time solution?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1195.89,1237.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think there are those who is in that position. Of course, if you look at the financial reports of the members comprising the Big Six of 1962, of course, they show one of the best profit years of any years in which they've released financial reports. As you probably well realize, as I do, that some of the Big 6 employers there's also release statements. That the first quarter of 1963 is one of the best quarters of all time. So I expect that with those kind of profits that there are those who is prepared to resist the position of this union to whatever extent that they see fit to do. Gene, do you have some questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1239.72,1292.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Questions you'd like to ask Mr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1292.98,1293.94"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I was going to say that in the first place, nobody talks more than Lunderman, women included. I want to, you talk about the economy of the region and how strikes affect the economy of the regions. When it comes right down to the family economy though, from the woman's point of view, It seems like... Like all winter long everything happens that keeps people out of the building industries and out of the woods and things like this and then when spring comes along and the weather is good and right for work and everything they the building industry and the timber industries always go on strike and you still have to pay for the refrigerator and the grocery bills and all that to think. What about that? Why does it always come at this time of year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1295.32,1346.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, first of all, of course. Summer is warmer than winter, so if you have to go without, it's more convenient.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1348.26,1358.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I knew you were going to say that, but I know the kids can go barefoot and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1359.78,1365.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But in addition to it, and your question, of course, is already a misconception.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1365.44,1373.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it just seems that way to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1374.38,1375.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of always going on strike.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1375.9,1377.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It seems like this time of year, the building industry is always going straight in some category.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1376.98,1380.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think she confused the building with the lumber industry because, as Mr. Nelson pointed out, it's been five or six years since there's been any increase in wages actually, Harvey, wasn't that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1380.25,1390.95"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Any major increase in 1961, along with a pension plan, we got a 1% wage increase. And actually, the 1% was threw in by the industry. To offset some of our demands for pensions that year. Keep in mind that this industry, no one within it, had any pension benefits until 1961. I might point out to you that since the IWA was formed in 1937, we have had two major strikes up till this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1391.91,1437.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, you've got an apology, don't you, Mr. Nowak?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1437.8,1440.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no, I want to say one more thing, is that I have lived in the valley and down around, you know, Sweet Home and down there where there was, I haven't lived in Sweet Home, but in that area, where logging, being the major industry, it seemed to me like the workers themselves never wanted to go on strike. Who instigates all this anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1439.59,1464.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think the results of the referendum vote of the membership of this union this year is the best answer I know. And out of a membership of approximately 32 to 35,000, there was 15, better than 15,000 people who said yes, strike if you have to, and only slightly over 2,000 who said no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1465.19,1490.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's quite a percentage. I'd say that was rather a democratic vote, wouldn't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1491.82,1495.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think they ought to let their wives vote next time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1495.39,1497.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1498.62,1498.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Why is without both of them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1499.88,1501.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This is a question of. I think without any question Harvey that the lumber industry itself the management that I know and have had contact more than the last 25 gosh I don't want to say 30 years because I don' want to I don't want to be that old but I don´t think that there is any major producing industry in this country that has had as many statesmen like labor leaders in it than the lumber industries. I well recognized from my own direct contacts with it when I was running lumber operations that almost without exception, every man that I had came in contact with with a union always took a very broad viewpoint on it and understood the operator's viewpoint. Do you find that in existence today? Let's say do you find a broad viewpoint of the operator willing to sit down and to truthfully negotiate differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1502.83,1557.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it depends on the time of the year you're talking about. It appears to me that in general negotiations, that is not the case. During interim periods, when you're negotiating on, let's say, incidental items of grievances and so on, the answer would be yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1559.04,1578.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, when it comes to a question of strength, somebody assumes a different position, eh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1579.78,1585.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is correct. In fact, I said to the employers in the big six the other day before the decision was made to strike and before negotiations was concluded, can you really afford to let this industry shut down where you could keep it running by granting to your employees an additional $0.05 an hour each year for three years? They came back from their own meeting and said, the answer is yes, we can afford it. And that's their decision. We think it's unfair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1585.39,1625.75"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think that it's a wise decision, Harvey?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1626.92,1629.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No I do not. Why? I don't think it's wise for them and I'm sorry to say that I don' think that their decision was wise for us because I think that this industry stands in the long run to lose a lot more than what they may gain in an increase in prices over a short period of time as a result of curtailment in the industry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1629.26,1653.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Harvey is that they can not only afford this industry, this increase, but the denial of the increase will cost them more than that they will gain in the present negotiation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1655.16,1667.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think they could have granted the increase and went ahead for three years and made plans as well as doing something beyond plans to obtain world markets, to enter their proper place in the world lumber market and been in a much better position than they ever will be in the immediate years ahead of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1668.68,1695.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Harvey, I wish I had more loggers on this program. Thanks for being with us, and if this thing, and if it progresses, come on back and we'll see how it develops, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1695.87,1703.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Go back and set chokers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1703.8,1704.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We can always do that, can't we? Thank you, Harvey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1705.17,1708.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e With every pro, there's an anti. And the Lyle Baker report, always an arbiter, never a judge, next week gives equal time to the other side of the strike question. Lowry Wyatt, chairman of the big six negotiating committee, will give the operator's viewpoint. And the big stick he will be carrying is the $20 million proposed package for the three-year contract his committee proposes. The Douglas fir may be hung with garlands of money. But what good are they if the forests are surrounded by the impenetrable brambles of deadlock? Thank you for being with us, and on behalf of our guest, Harvey Nelson of the IWA, your reporter, Lyle Baker, and me, Jean King, a very pleasant good evening. Ladies and gentlemen, in this corner last week, wearing the trunks of the International Woodworkers of America was regional president Harvey Nelson. As you have undoubtedly heard, there has been a match arranged between that group and the Big Six of the timber industries. And in this quarter tonight is Lowry Wyatt, chief negotiator for the Big 6 and a vice president in the wood products division of Weyerhaeuser Timber Company. This is no grudge fight, as both parties have maintained, and they are standing on principles rather than on each other's necks. A native Californian, Mr. Wyatt is an old hand in the area of labor negotiations and collective bargaining and has been with Weyerhaeuser since 1957 when he was named director of personnel. Wyatt's eight-ounce gloves are constructed of pure kid and never land below the belt. Following this week's word on the lumber market by Lyle Baker, Mr. Wyatt will get on with the inside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1710.92,1863.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Things in the lumber market, to paraphrase Alice, are getting curiouser and curiouser. Twenty percent of lumber production has been taken off the market by the shutdown of the companies of the Big Six. Yet production is not down in the hole. Remember the story of the poor cobbler whose business wasn't worth a taker's dam and the mysterious little elves who came every night to whip up a batch of new shoes for him? Could there be some elves in the woodpile? Lumber has enjoyed good price health starting from the middle of January when prices began increasing a dollar so at a time and as we told you last week the market jumped seven to eight dollars within a period of 10 days and is holding firm at the level yet is in short supply. When the retailer hit the panic button last week demand jumped. When a threatened shutdown in production loomed the retailer figured he had better get lumber into his yard to supply the next four months of the heavy building season. As a result, the price cauldron began to bubble and boil and has not yet slackened to a steady simmer. Plywood jumped $8, hitting $68 last week, and we predict $72 firm any day now. Unreasonable, it's true. Since plywood production is at its peak, but when in the history of this business has the price of plywood and lumber ever been pegged to the cost? At a proper profit margin. This reporter believes that this market will remain on a high price level through the balance of the summer. Lumber, I believe, will see a market a bit too high, will slack off a few dollars, then settle out at a good profitable, realistic level. As we told you in January, re-emphasized in February, and insisted on in March, This is going to be the best year the wood products industry has seen as far as price. Since nineteen fifty five. Ask the supplier who has made book on our prediction. Here's one example. A mill operator called me last week and said that from January he had followed our market predictions. The greatest accolade of all was when he said that he estimated a gross profit of an extra twenty three thousand dollars in these first five months over what he would have done had he followed the quote old established reporting services. And speaking of these reporting services. I'd like to take a moment to speak of them. Their caution is Victorian and their necks are very safely sheathed. To my knowledge, none of them would go so far as to predict a higher price market. None foresaw a better year. All one needs to do is to check through their editorial roster and list the number of ex-traders among them. Lumber trading may be the most dangerous game since Russian roulette, but at least to develop the sense of portent. And a hunch as to what chamber the bullet is in. This reporter has smelled the gunpowder more than once. This reporter had scars on his outstretched neck. But this reporter has called the shots more closely as they will be tomorrow, instead of simply treading the straight, unwavering primrose path of what happened yesterday. The Warehouser Timber Company has long been recognized as the most progressive firm in the business as far as research is concerned. Research is the stake in tomorrow. Warehouser has always been concerned with tomorrow. And living proof is Lowry Wyatt, big six negotiator in the present lumber strike. Rather than discussing the individual issues in the strike, Mr. Wyatt is concerned with a long term point of view which will be equitable for all involved in the present situation. I must say that I agree with his viewpoint, since what might happen tomorrow certainly determines what our actions should be today. Well Wyant, what is happening today? Where are we?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1879.37,2130.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Mr. Baker, having heard your market report, I think my chief emotion is I'd like to borrow your rose-colored glasses, and I wish we were running. If things are this good, what are we doing in this kind of a mass?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2132.46,2147.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know that's why you're here with us tonight to find out where we are and why we're there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2148.069,2152.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well as is known to you certainly and I presume to many of your viewers we're in some difficulty having set out some months ago in fact some years ago to discuss whether or not among several of us there wasn't a better way to carry out the collective bargaining between industry representatives and representatives of these two great international unions. We felt that the of tomorrow required better ways to do this. Better ways to solve relationships with our people, just as surely as it required better equipment, better methods, and better market approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2153.25,2192.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sounds logical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2193.85,2194.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e We, again, as is well known, in the first year of this association, which you people in the press, radio, and television choose to call the Big Six, that isn't our word, but it seems to be descriptive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2196.509,2208.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you call it, Wyatt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2208.6,2209.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e It has no name. It's an association of six employers. It has no name because our only reason to get together was to agree to approach the bargaining table as a single unit to take a single position to be bound to a single result. The other side of that coin of course having done this and done it with the objective in mind of being better able to face the kinds of challenges in the future. This bugaboo we call automation, a very real need to keep the wages of our people competitive without passing it on to the unit cost of manufacture. This requires the kinds of things in labor contracts that are very difficult to come by in our judgment if a single company is trying to do it alone. So early in, or at about the beginning of 1963, we had discussed this far enough and long enough that we felt it was proper to discuss the possibilities with these two unions and to get their reaction as to whether or not we were making sense when we said this kind of a group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2209.98,2278.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What was their reception to it, Lowry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2279.25,2280.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's fair to say that they were in agreement. And I would be inclined to think that they're still in agreement, that this association, this amalgamation of companies for bargaining purposes is desirable and constructive. I may be misquoting them since this particular negotiation has gotten into trouble. But I know I'm not misquotting them up until that time. And I rather think in the long-range view they would still. Feel that this is the right approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2281.7,2311.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you, let's say, speaking of what's happened in the last day or two, some certain charges that were filed before the Labor Relations Board?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2312.23,2319.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm not referring to that. I understand, having read it just in the press today, I have not seen the charges. I understand the charges have been filed against these six companies, apparently claiming that the so-called lockout, or at least the cessation of operations that took place beginning on Monday, is an unfair labor practice and in violation of the National Labor Relations Act.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2319.57,2344.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2344.68,2345.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's the case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2345.47,2346.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e As I understand it Laurie before you entered into negotiation there was a realization on the part of the unions themselves that you were going to negotiate as a group. Yes. And as I understand the continuity they struck two of your people and there was always a clear understanding that the six of you were let's say in a fact talking together. And so in your intent in any event this was a clear thing from the start before negotiation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2346.53,2373.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's well and accurately said. I would add only this. There is a tendency because a strike occurred against two of the members of this very new association to believe that the action taken by the other employers was some sort of a retaliation or an attempt to exercise muscle or to bring about an undesirable result by the use of force. And I would I'd like to state that... The meetings held by the six employers following the beginning of the strike against two members were really a reassessment of the worth of the association and its objectives on the part of these people. All we did was say when we started we thought this was a good idea for specific reasons to bring stability and peace in the labor relations in the industry to enable us to take far ranging looks at the problems of the future. And we ask ourselves just one question. Is that still a good idea. The answer was yes. Having given a yes answer to that question, then the action taken was inevitable. If we were to have this association for its original purposes, we felt there was really no alternative open to us, except to act as though, as we believed it was, and it was understood to be, that a strike against one of the units had to be interpreted as a strike against all the covered units.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2374.61,2459.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know I like this this word stability issues this long term stability. As I recall when Mr. Nelson was on here on the panel with us last week or on the program. In his own personal opinion I don't know if it's the viewpoint of the unions or not. He felt that contracts should be negotiated over a three or longer year period so that there would be stability in it. I also realize that in his considered viewpoint. That he laid down certain conditions that he felt, let's say, were necessary in order to do this. But I think basically and essentially, let say there is a common meeting of minds in principle on this thing. Am I wrong, Lowry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2460.05,2502.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I think you're exactly correct. I think there is definitely a meeting of the minds. There's a falling apart as to the considerations that ought to go along with it. Going on with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2502.31,2510.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, the price is not quite right, according to two","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2511.14,2513.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e points of view. Stating it simply, that's right. Right. I think that Mr. Nelson has stated his case most ably. He is, I'm sure, in agreement with me that the days of annual brinksmanship ought to be behind us. I guess right. We should be able to talk about the problems that exist between the people that work in these mills and the managements of these mills continuously. This is difficult to do if you've got 200 companies all doing it. This is another reason for being together. We plan and always plan. But if this association could be brought about and did survive, that bargaining really would take place all the time. It's an educational process. It's not an in-and-out. You don't solve long-range problems in the heat of a collision with 24 hours before the deadline or 48 hours before deadline. It's an educational process. It's a process that, across the bargaining table in our most recent unfortunate experience, we often gave reference and reached agreement on the fact that committees should be assigned to specific problems, and they should study them and make recommendations when they're not in the heat of the battle. When you get down to the heat of the Battle, anyone that's negotiated is well aware of the fact that you're protecting your position, must necessarily do so. And you aren't, in all cases, at least taking the long-range view because you're concerned about whether you're going to be running tomorrow or something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2513.95,2606.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, Mr. Watt, I wanted to ask you, you talk about the, what, as you say, the press calls the big six as an association. Now, associations are generally formed with bylaws and presidents and secretary treasurers and all that sort of thing. How did you determine who was going to be members, who would be members of your association, and, as, you call it? And is it formed as an Association, or is it just a... To put together off the cup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2608.03,2638.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it is formed as an association, it consists of a written agreement among the six companies to conduct collective bargaining in an effort to achieve labor peace and stability as a single group. It imposes certain restrictions on each member to which you must be bound by the outcome of any given negotiation that you enter as a group. The other side of that coin is, of course, the one that's got us in trouble now, which is that you have to agree to disagree as well. And this we have done. But I think the specific answer to your question is that we chose the group by just a number of us who, at that time, were involved in industrial relations activities in the industry, getting together and saying there's got to be a better way, calling in others and discussing it. Finally, if there were a criteria for membership, which really is the heart of your question, I think, it's probably that the membership of this kind of an association would be open to any concern who had long-range considerations at least equal to the short-range consideration, that they were willing to come to grips with the problems that lay down the road, as well as the expedient of grabbing the quick settlement today and worry about the next one next year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2639.52,2724.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In other words, this is not limited to sick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2724.79,2726.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, there were there were more than that in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2727.75,2729.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think this is a wonderful conception. It's about time that in the lumber business the people who've got a long range stake for 10, 20, 40, 50 years, who are, let's say, in effect, pouring their profits back in to build the business and make it stronger competitively with other industries, are taking a collective look as to how they can plan ahead, as to how they organize, let say not only in the field of labor relations, one of the things which Believe me I think is very pertinent in this so-called trouble situation is the fact that as I understand it there has been an agreement already between yourselves and the union people to sit down and discuss the problem of automation and arrive at this the solution to it or let's say the the solutions that will come through the various changes that occur that will be equitable all sides. This I think is a very positive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2730.79,2784.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we think it is. I should correct one impression that might be left. You said there's an agreement on this. Of course, we have no agreement at all. No. Hence, none of its parts can be really considered in effect, but your statement is accurate in that there is no disagreement about it. I see. I'm correct. At the present time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2785.03,2805.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a rather moot point, but I like the way that you put it. Yeah, I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2807.58,2810.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e That was nitpicking. That's what I like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2810.9,2812.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well this is a this approach I think is one of the things that the lumber industry has not only needed for years but it's necessary for its continual survival. I'm much interested in let's say the stake that the the companies who have a long term stake in timber and plants are putting in seriously into this negotiation today. Would you like to elaborate on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2814.38,2837.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Could I use an example out of the current difficulty which I think illustrates it and I hope I don't appear to be arguing these issues in public. I'm not attempting to argue it but I think it's illustrative of what you're saying. One of the requests made by these six employers is part of this bargaining and it wasn't keeping with the long range thing that we've been talking about. I don' want to overwork that phrase but we ask that if and The market made it possible and the operation made it possible to run one of our operations on a seven day continuous basis all the time like a pulp mill has been doing for years and like pulp mill contracts allow that we be exempted the operators be exempted from the payment of overtime for work performed on Saturday and Sunday as such. I mean just because they were calendar days. Reason just I think what we've been talking about one such a provision requires the employment of more people. It encourages the operation of facilities to their maximum capacity because you can run it without penalty time. You do hire more people to cover the week. Now that to us is a long-range view and one we talked about and talked about with representatives of the unions far before the bargaining ever started. As something that we said was going to be needed to encourage capital investment in Plywood and so on. Now we get into this kind of a difficulty and of course that request is subject to a great deal of misinterpretation. I don't know whether you want me to take the time to try to clear it up with you. Yes I would. But I'm only trying to clear up a misinterpreted not suggest or editorialize on its merit. The misinterpretation has taken many forms. People have felt, we're turning back the clock 20 years. We're going back to the dark ages. We're eliminating all types of overtime. We're gonna ask people to work seven days. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2838.06,2962.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think a statement was made last week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2962.02,2963.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I just want to clear it up that what the operator said is that it's desirable to the people who work in these mills and to the operators to operate facilities, to encourage capital investment in them by operating them a maximum length of time. We did not suggest any change in any existing contract in any of the six companies unless and until The operator decided to run the facility on a continuous seven day basis, hiring the additional people. And then we said that since it's running continuously, some people, some workers, Saturday and Sunday falls on Monday and Tuesday, or Wednesday and Thursday. But we understand that no one would be asked to work more than the five days. He'd have two consecutive days off. He'd be paid overtime if he worked a sixth or a seventh day. He'd be paid overtime if he worked over eight hours a day or over 40 hours a week. We only said that since Saturday and Sunday is now spread throughout the seven days, as long as you're running seven days and only if you regularly schedule it for seven days that then we suggest that it would be an improvement and a removal of an impediment in this contract to agree that Saturday and Monday are just two other days of the week for this purpose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=2964.02,3050.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In effect what you're doing is taking the existing plant investment then and getting the maximum utilization out of that plant investment so that you put yourself into a competitive position as far as competitive industries are concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3050.59,3064.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e This is one of the things I think. I think this kind of a proposal I am not in any way criticizing the reaction we get. I think it's mostly born out of misunderstanding. But some people are immediately concerned about woods employees. Well you've been in the industry. Is it likely anybody's going to run the woods on a graveyard shift seven days a week. I don't know how you'd fall timber tonight. I really know how. And I think that if we want to be practical about it. Well it's true that our request has been made. Thinking that the maximum guarantee was the assurance that seven days were scheduled. You could have just asked for it for a segment. You could've said, let's just apply it to this kind of an operation. I think the reason that we're asking for it in this form is that what difference, what kind of operation, if you have as an original given, that the operation has to run seven days, or none of this applies. I completely agree with this. Wait, you're not through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3065.09,3122.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, one of the things that we talked about this at some length last week...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3121.87,3126.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, as I told Nelson, I completely disagreed with the fact that you should pay a man just because he worked on Saturday and Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3126.31,3132.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he said something about it, and he said to you, well, Lyle, you've worked in the woods. You know there was always something to do on Saturday and Sunday. Whether you worked the rest of the week or not, you could always move a donkey or something. I don't understand this because he was saying, in essence, that maybe five days a week you didn't do anything. And Saturdays and Sundays, the operator called you in and said, I can use you today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3132.18,3153.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the whole point of this game is what Mr. Lowery brought out is that if this industry is going to survive in the first place it's got to have profits. There are terribly heavy investments increasingly heavy investments in plant equipment and timber in order for a company to survive. And if they're going to survive competitively with other industries they've got to put themselves on a competitive basis. I think that that Lowry's point is well taken at those plants are in existence seven days a week. There is no reason that you can't utilize those plants seven days a week without penalty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3154.37,3188.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, in other words, everybody's going to work five straight days and then have two days off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3189.39,3193.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that what it is? They aren't going to be the same two days, if you're running 7-hours. I certainly think that's a logical opinion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3194.23,3199.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I misunderstood the whole thing, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3199.24,3201.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and I think there's, as Mr. Lowry or Lowry pointed out, there's a lot of misunderstanding and the only way you can clarify it, let's say sometimes, is to re-emphasize it and rehash it, Lowry, begging your pardon. I know this is very familiar to you, but I think in the eyes of the public sometimes that the only they can understand it is to rehash and re-bring it up and redefine it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3201.79,3221.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think this is an honest misunderstanding. I don't mean to indicate that it's anything else. And I'm sure that. The clarification that I tried to give is only in the interest of those people who have to evaluate this before we can reach a settlement really understand the limitations that we intentionally put on the request.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3221.49,3243.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think this is part of the whole plan of a long-range look at things such as this that you people have entered into, isn't that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3244.42,3250.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I use it as an example of the kinds of improvements that we as employers would like to see made in these contracts, and we think they are necessarily part and parcel of being able to pay increased competitive wages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3251.03,3265.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What are the other elements in this long-range planet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3266.63,3268.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I think we need better answers. We need to talk about and work out answers to problems of mechanization. Here again, there's much misunderstanding. I presume anyone you ask to define automation would probably have a different definition. It's a catchphrase for a lot of sins. I think that there are some specific elements which will grow out of mechanizing mills in order to keep them competitive that are going to have an impact on people. As I have suggested to Union people many times, it's no place to sleep under the rug problem. Automation. Problems of automation are people problems. They affect individual. They're concerned about their future employment. Our answer is that the best answer to unemployment is more employment. And our seven-day week, I think, typifies that. We're saying, let's have a reason to hire more people. This is one way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3270.19,3328.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think that's correct. In other words, what you're saying is you're going to increase the efficiency of the industry, the individual plants, you're gonna have more people employed. I think, that's well illustrated and everything that's happened in the rest of the country and all the basic industries, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3329.49,3342.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I think this is a trend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3342.43,3344.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think there's any question of it. Laurie, do you think, I understand the last few days there have been some elements that have added into it. Some of the other companies that are starting to negotiate the independent companies who are without the big six as I understand that the, let's say there's been no locking of horns so far on the part of the Timber Operators Council and the union. Do you feel that through this series of negotiations, and as I understand in a week or two you'll probably be back into them, that this thing will be solved, do you think that successful solutions will occur, as far as you're concerned?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3346.31,3384.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, to paraphrase my good friend Mr. Harvey Nelson, there are problems, and there are answers to problems. And it's up to us to find them, to find the answers, that is. We have no trouble finding the problems. All right. I think we're going to find an answer to these problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3385.04,3399.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know it's very interesting to have someone like Harvey Nelson last week who let's say is under the gun on one side of the fence and then to have you this week. I'm in the position of being a moderator let's put it this way my only intention is to is to bring out the issues and the positions clearly. I can only tell you as a conclusion of last week's program and of this and the ones which we'll probably do in the next two or three weeks. That if the lumber industry had had men of goodwill, and I'll be, man, this is a word that I love and a such statesman-sick approach, as you exercise and as Harvey Nelson exercises, I don't think we'd have had any problems in the last 30 years, and I don' think we're going to have any in the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3399.9,3445.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he's a wonderful man to try to work out problems. Well, I'll tell you that. He says the same thing about you. Thanks very much. It's a mighty friendly situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3445.92,3453.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for being here, Laura, we enjoyed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3455.12,3458.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Next week, scene of the action will be the grass roots. Principal players in this continuing drama are local industry officials concerned with the strike situation, people without work, merchants, bankers, economists. As the tide ebbs and flows, this report will endeavor to maintain an even keel and keep a nose to windward. Be with us next week when the murmuring pines, the hemlocks, and the Douglas firs cease their murmuring. And lift their voices in an unrehearsed chorale. It remains to be seen whether the selection is a dirge or a hallelujah chorus. And now, from our guest, Mr. Lowry Wyatt, your reporter, Lyle Baker, and me, Gene King, thank you for being with us and a very pleasant good evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=3460.5,3509.76"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/transcript/79316/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/316/original/trint_Coll427_fv005_transcript.vtt?1746648894","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/079/316/original/trint_Coll427_fv005_transcript.vtt?1746648894"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Coll427_FV005 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coll427_fv005_01 The Lyle Baker Report","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=13.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lyle Baker Report, Lyle baker, Jean King, lumber strike, Harvey Nelson, Woodworkers of America, worker's perspective, unionization, wages","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=13.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sound","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=13.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coll427_fv005_02 The Lyle Baker Report","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1801.0,3543.587"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lyle Baker Report, Lyle Baker, Jean King , lumber strike, Wally Wyatt, management perspective, industry profitability, increasing jobs, \"the big 6\"","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1801.0,3543.587"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584/index/51111/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sound","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1635/collection_resources/69174/file/155584#t=1801.0,3543.587"}]}]}]}