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Today is Tuesday, May 16, 2023. And today, I am interviewing Dennis Stovall. The interview will be about the Eugene [Vietnam] anti-war movement. Dennis, could you give me a little bit of background on where you were brought up and your family? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=5.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I was born in Portland, Oregon, to two native Oregonians. My mother was raised in the very community where I'm living now in southwest Portland, and in fact, was born maybe four blocks from here. My dad was from another pioneer family, so to speak, who had come to the Upper Willamette Valley and settled in Philomath and were farmers. And that was one side. And the other side were German farmers from the Midwest. So my family's been in Oregon for over a hundred years. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=40.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And tell me a little bit about your dad's occupation and your mom's occupation in Oregon. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=83.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My dad was, well, both of them, probably both of my parents would have gone to university, I think, had they not faced the [1930s] Depression and been really poor because of that. They also both came from families where their dads had taken off and abandoned the mothers and the children. But they eventually gravitated, both of them, to politics in Portland. And it was a result of the Great Depression that they were motivated toward their politics. My mother's came from radical Jews who had immigrated from Eastern Europe. But my dad's family were not radical at all. And he picked up his politics, his radical and labor politics, working as a logger in the woods, mostly from the Swedes, Norwegians, and Finns. The men who had immigrated alone and predominated in those industries, as well as on the Longshore [on the waterfront]. He was involved in politics because of what they were bringing to him and eventually joined the Communist Party and wound up at one point being Secretary of the Oregon party briefly before the beginning of the Second World War. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=96.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he was involved in organizing a CIO [Congress of Industrial Organizations] union in the timber industry? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=179.0,185.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, he was. And he also participated with the Longshore [International Longshore and Warehouse Union] in their strikes. And in fact, had several notorious scars on his body. One knife scar from the middle of, top of his head, to the bridge of his nose, and another one under his arm from the goons attacking with knives on the waterfront. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=185.0,208.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So on the spectrum, from conservative to liberal, they would be on the liberal side, but say—they were very supportive of the New Deal and that whole movement towards the left in the later 1930s? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=208.0,225.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, they were. I mean, they were. It was interesting that even though they were socialists or communists, they were strong Roosevelt people because they wanted to see the situation bailed out of its terrible depths and they lived through the Depression. They didn't want anyone else to. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=225.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you were raised in The Dalles? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=245.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was. We started off over on the Oregon coast when my dad thought he'd go back to logging. He crippled his foot in a logging accident when I was about three. And then we got to The Dalles by way of him opening a second-hand store when the Detroit dam was being built on the Santiam River, and he needed to find another way to make a living. So when those dam workers moved to The Dalles on the Columbia, for The Dalles Dam, we moved right along with him, and he opened a much bigger store and we wound up staying there and they for the rest of their lives. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=248.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, as workers would come into the store, he was, in effect, organizing? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=287.0,292.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He did that. Yes. I mean, he was really quite class conscious. And he made an effort to be absolutely fair in all of his business dealings and highly respected the people who he had also fought with and, you know, fellow soldiers who had also made it back from Europe. And he recognized what they were going through because he had also suffered through that. He also, and my mom as well, realized after they got to The Dalles that they were there for a participation in a really awful event. And that was the inundation of Celilo Falls and the loss of all the treaty rights and homeland rights of the Native Americans of that part of the gorge. And so he participated, as did she, in helping the Indians to deal with the government. And I know that they feel totally inadequate in the face of the government lawyers and things, but they put themselves out for that, when they could. And they taught us boys, there were three of us, about racism by being able to show us what it was in action. And that meant that they also became the friends of other people in the community who were ethnically different, the Japanese who had been interned and who had returned, as well as a couple of Black people who happened to live in that town and were totally isolated otherwise. So they stepped up and they were good models for us, but they also paid a significant price for that because The Dalles is historically quite conservative. And so they were persona non grata as the McCarran hearings took place. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=292.0,405.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the early fifties.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=405.0,406.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the early fifties. And I remember eavesdropping on them, which I didn't tell them about because it embarrassed me. I knew I shouldn't do it. But they'd gone into their bedroom, and they were having a discussion I listened to through the door about who would get us kids when they were taken away. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=406.0,427.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interesting. And so you had a strong sense in terms of labor rights, civil rights, human rights, would you say, in your upbringing? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=427.0,438.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did. And at the same time, the contradiction there was that I realized how you could be harmed for your views. And it made me really quite shy when I was younger. I just did not want to be visible. And the problem with that is once you get those moral values, your mouth follows them and it follows them sometimes into trouble, sometimes it gets you out of trouble. And it did both along the way. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=438.0,466.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But did you—when you were in high school, were you doing any kind of organizing? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=466.0,472.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I didn't do any organizing at the early part of high school because I was self-conscious and shy. I was just paying attention to studies. But by my end of my junior year and my senior years, I had become an activist in the in the school system. And we had a number of issues with the old aristocracy of The Dalles and this new group of people who had moved in to be dam workers and other construction labor. And we had a battle with the city that my parents were engaged in, and they'd been asked to participate in, by our neighbors, where we wound up going all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court in order to protect the rights of our educational district and our right to choice in that. And that's where I began to gain self-confidence about what you can do, even in an environment that could be otherwise either stultifying or murderous. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=472.0,531.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in high school, you had a sense of the potential for collective action? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=531.0,537.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did. And in so in some ways I was lucky. There were several renegades in the classes ahead of me in high school. They were kids who had decided that they were beatniks and had left town and traveled the world and became iconic to their little brothers and sisters. And those were my friends. So, they were an inspiration about what you could do and how you could get out of Dodge if you had to, and survive and in fact, thrive. So, that was really helpful. And the other part of it was that, was realizing that I was going to be able to leave town, too.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=537.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you knew that you weren't in The Dalles forever? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=578.0,581.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I was not. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=581.0,583.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you — were your parents members of any church or synagogue? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=583.0,588.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. Neither one of them was religious at all. And they did say to my brothers and me, you know, if you if you want to check things out, check out any religion and you feel that's where you have to go, that's up to you. But my mother had stopped practicing Judaism when she was in high school, and my dad had quit a fundamentalist Christian sect when he was thirteen. And both of them had, from that point on, considered themselves to be atheists. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=588.0,620.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, so you were very secular, as it were. And so tell me a little bit about how you get to the University of Oregon, and you come in 1964? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=620.0,635.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Came in 1964. I'd, partly because I was still sort of shy, I'd been afraid of going far away from home, but I had all of the scholarships that could take me wherever I wanted to go and was in fact, being solicited because I had been a National Merit Scholar. And so that was easy, an easy path. And the science was also easy. The State of Oregon had sent me to a junior engineers assigned to summer institute, along with twenty other kids from around the state. And so they were they were grooming me for academia, and I was relishing every possibility of that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=635.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Though you were the first to go to college in your family? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=678.0,681.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I was. And actually my younger brother went for one term and then quit and the other brother did not go at all. Both of them are great intellectuals. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=681.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you get to the university in '64 and what was your major and if you had any kind of occupational aspirations at the time, what were you thinking as you entered as a freshman? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=700.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I thought I was going to be a faculty member in one of the hard sciences and probably in physics, but if not physics, then in theoretical mathematics. So, those had been not only things I was good at, but they also seem politically safe to me. There was a certain security in hiding behind numbers and formulas. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=714.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=737.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you didn't have to speak out and get yourself in trouble. And, of course, as soon as I got involved in the University of Oregon and just academic life, I began to see these other possibilities. And I also didn't feel the stultification that I'd felt while still in in my hometown. So I started looking around. And as I got involved in in the early parts of the anti-war movement, 1964 and '65, suddenly it seemed important to start paying more attention to the social side of my education, to the history, to the political science, to the philosophy. And the Honors College, which was what I was attending at the U of O [University of Oregon], was perfect for doing that because it was lenient. And said, you know, you're going to have a generalist understanding of the world and you're going to be able to then focus on what you desire. But that generalism comes first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=737.0,797.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I—my parents had never done this to me, but many of my teachers had emphasized that generalism is like a fault. You should not be a jack of all trades because you will be a master of none. And what I soon realized was that you can be a master of any or all of them if you want. There's nothing in the way of that. And so being away from home, being away from the confines of that small town was liberating. And I hadn't expected the liberation also to be the political one that came with the anti-war movement. But out of good conscience, I had no choice but to be involved in that, because I already knew what was going on. My mom and dad subscribed to so many left-wing and otherwise esoteric magazines and newspapers, that I'd been reading all of this stuff, even before it was major news in this country. I knew what was going on in Vietnam. And so I sought out what appeared to be the activist left, which at that point was mostly young professors. And so there were some events to go to. And I had criticisms at first. I remember getting hold of my mom and saying, you know, I'm not sure these people are quite serious. Because I'd seen how serious things could be with them. And she said, \"Well, you know, movements develop.\"\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=797.0,896.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And evolve. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=896.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And evolve. And so I jumped in and got involved with the first things that in '64 and early '65 were being done. I had missed out on probably only a few months of activity because it had not been going on for long. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=897.0,917.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you were involved in what would be the predecessor to SDS [Students for a Democratic Society], and that was the Students for Socialist Action that was formed, I think, early' 65. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=917.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Yeah. Although involved in going to some of the forums that had been presented by faculty prior to that. So I was paying attention about what was going on. And then I sought out what looked like an organized group. And I was disappointed in it at first because it seemed more woo-woo than political science or serious politics. And I wasn't used to that notion of alternative culture. So I didn't have any practice burning incense and chanting. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=929.0,966.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, tell me what the first meeting of the Students for Socialist Action was like that you went to? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=966.0,972.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I walked into a room, I believe it was in the basement of the Erb Memorial Student Union and thought I might be in the wrong room because the lights were off. It was dark. There were candles burning on a table in front and sticks of incense sticking out of a jar. And there were a couple of people who looked like they were probably faculty at the table at the front, and they were in the process of going ommmmm, ommmmmm. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=972.0,1002.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a meditation?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1002.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a meditation. And I've got nothing, there's nothing wrong with meditating. But this seemed like an odd way to approach the issues of a war that was starting to accelerate and that I thought needed to be halted, that if we could halt it at all, as abruptly as possible. So I called home after that meeting and told my folks about this, and they thought it was kind of a Looney Tunes sort of affair. But I said, you know, I'm going to go back. I'm going to participate, find a way to see if I can make this better. And the role I played after that was actually to try to recruit other people to be seen and to actually take on the issues. And it wasn't that the two young anthropologists who were running that meeting were serious about the war and doing something about it, but they had some pretty odd notions about how to organize. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1004.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and may not have had much experience and were trying to bring together the so-called anti-war movement and the so-called counterculture at the time. But at this moment, when you come into this student faculty organization, right. Would you say you were against the war? It was the wrong—why, wrong war, wrong place, unjust war, colonial war, an imperialist war? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1065.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I saw it as an imperialist war. Yeah. And I also saw it as a racist war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1099.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tell me a little bit about that. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1106.0,1107.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I mean, we have this habit of racism in this country. And it's undeniable what we've done to our own citizens who are not purebred and white. And I'd experienced enough of that being half-Jewish, to know that if it was bad for me, it was miserable for others. And if you are a small country with a valuable commodity like nickel, which was in Indochina, then you were in a position where you were set up for nothing but hell. And you were, you're going to be raped, pillaged and burned. And that's precisely what happened. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1107.0,1153.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So given your upbringing and your background and your parents involved in what I presume was multiracial organizing, that was an important part of your opposition to the war, that this was literally a war of white people in a rich industrial society imposing their will on yellow people in a poor, undeveloped country. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1153.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yep. That's what it was. And, you know, it wasn't as if we wouldn't put our forces against people who happen also to be white if they happen to have the right minerals on their soil and we needed them. Yeah, but this was a particularly egregious act and you could see it coming. But apparently it wasn't being seen well enough because it was kept hidden long enough, pardon me, long enough for Americans to act almost surprised when they realized what we were up to. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1181.0,1221.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to the degree that you can remember about the early, because your entre to the whole anti-war movement was through the campus. You know, in '65 and '66, there's going to be an all-night vigil in' 65. And that would have been an early protest there. The first march was going to occur in March of '65, all of one hundred people. What do you remember from '65, '66, those early years when you were first at the U of O? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1221.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I was actually pleased to even see one hundred people, because there's more than two, and it's more than five. And what it meant to me was that there was a potential for things to be built and to develop. And that was also true because you could see with each new aggregation of students, each new class arriving, even by the terms, that there was a little more momentum each time. The discussions were a little deeper than at first, where really even I was being introduced to a lot of the details. But brand-new students who'd never participated in anything like that had a lot of education that had to take place and probably needed more courage than I did to show up for those. They probably didn't call home and say, \"Mom, Dad, I just went to a demonstration.\" At least not at first. And there were others, a few others, who I knew who were like me, who had some sort of political background. But for the most part, the people I was meeting were new to any sort of movement, any sort of social movement, and had never confronted their own, the mythology we'd been taught in high school about everything American is great, everything white is great. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1264.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you would say that a lot of your activity was political education—\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1345.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, it was. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1351.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—of other students? And do you ever remember being part of a study group or what forms did the popular education take? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1353.0,1361.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, there were some study groups, but for the most part, we were studying on our own and we were reading the same sorts of things. So as there began to be magazines that talked about this that were aimed at us, that were coming from us in fact. I was moving away from the literature that my parents had read and reading things that were by my contemporaries. And that, just like the growth of the movement, that had to grow organically. And I, actually, I see criticisms that it wasn't fast enough. But considering where we began, the progress was actually quite rapid over that decade. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1361.0,1409.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you would switch your major during this time too, is that correct? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1409.0,1414.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1414.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you became a history and then a political science major? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1415.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1418.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And the war, I presume, was talked about quite a bit in your classes? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1418.0,1425.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, well, the classes I picked. Only because I was cherry picking the classes that would abet what I was doing in the street. You know, even the Honors College thesis that I wrote was me working out my politics. And so I guess I could say I was getting paid to do it, because it was my degree that I was earning with it. And I was learning from actually doing it, asking those questions, and then presenting them to a critical audience, the faculty. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1425.0,1463.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in February of '67, SDS was protesting Marine recruiters on campus. Then in October of '67, there was going to be a week-long daily picketing of the Selective Service. Were you involved in either of those? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1463.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I was at most things like that. Sometimes acting as moderate leadership, sometimes just simply participating. When we had our first sit down at the draft board and we were, a number of us were arrested. I was I there as quickly as I could be in that group. And the lovely thing about that was that I hadn't mentioned to my parents that this was going to happen, and they saw it on television. And when I got out of jail and back to my apartment one of my roommates said, \"Your folks have been trying to call you.\" And I said, \"Oh, great.\" And I got on the phone and called them, and they said, \"Congratulations. That's great. We're taking you out to dinner the next time you come home.\" \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1483.0,1531.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so that would have been, I think, in the October of '67 when civil disobedience at the draft board and twenty some students were arrested. You had a student deferment at the time? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1531.0,1545.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1545.0,1545.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you have any did you consider becoming a conscientious objector or a draft resister? Where were you at in the relationship to—\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1545.0,1556.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did. I considered that because I thought it was important to ask myself those questions. Where am I in this? And the answer was that I was not a CO [conscientious objector]. I was against the war. And I could call it in good conscience for being a conscientious objector, but not in the sense of being a pacifist.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1556.0,1579.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. So you were not a pacifist, and therefore, you didn't want to apply for a CO? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1579.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I did not, no. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1583.0,1586.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And but did you participate in any of those? There would be, moving into '68 and '69, there would be this group called the Resistance, which are people who not only oppose the draft, but they also decided to turn in their draft cards. Did you participate in any of those activities? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1586.0,1610.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. I knew plenty of people who did, and I considered it. But when I asked myself those questions, I still came back with the same answer I had on just the straight pacifism. And I decided that, No, in fact, I'm going to go in. If they did.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1610.0,1629.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, you had decided that if you were drafted you were going to go in?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1629.0,1632.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That I will take this fight inside. And if that means going to jail on the inside, then that is, that's the result. And it turned out that I was quite by accident, lucky. I had a lower back injury from high school wrestling and when I went in for my physical here in Portland, with my little bag packed to go to Fort Lewis, the Army doctor who spoke to me and prodded me, he said, I'm sorry, but you can't go. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1632.0,1668.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you got a medical deferment?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1668.0,1670.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got a medical. And it was a total surprise to me. I was on my way, and I just figured it was going to be a different kind of fight. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1670.0,1682.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in the fall of '67, we have national coalitions that come together, and there would be big actions in Washington and San Francisco, that could be coordinated with local actions, and in Eugene. Did you—when did you become conscious of a broader national movement and that there was some coordination between what was going on locally and what was going on nationally? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1682.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, pretty much right out at the beginning, because you could feel that happening. And then several of us who were active in Eugene made trips to Berkeley, to San Francisco, to meet cohorts who we wanted to get to know and see what we could learn from what they were doing. We also sent contingents from U of O to OSU [Oregon State University] to talk to the people who were trying to start things there where it was more difficult. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1716.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they eventually started SDS chapter there, I believe. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1744.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1748.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you go to some of the big demonstrations in '67 or '68 in San Francisco? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1748.0,1756.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I missed those. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1756.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And so moving into '68— \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1758.0,1768.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, wait a minute. I'm wrong. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1768.0,1771.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Go ahead. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1771.0,1771.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I did. There was a big a challenging event at Berkeley. And Steve Kite and I had driven down from Portland, or from Eugene, to Berkeley, and we were watching this chase. Police are chasing and dividing people up on the streets around the university. And we got involved and actually acted as marshals. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1771.0,1806.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, really? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1806.0,1806.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, because we said you guys are going the wrong way. (both laughing)\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1806.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Steve Kite was a sociology grad student, I think, who was also involved in SDS and the anti-war movement. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1810.0,1819.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And he later on was a participant, too, in a labor newspaper that we published in Eugene.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1819.0,1827.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. All right. Oh, definitely we'll talk about that in just a little bit. Tell me about, particularly in '68, there's going to be in '68 of course, a lot of anti-draft work and something called the Draft Information Center was going to be created to counsel young men who were going to go into the military. Were they going to be a CO? Were they going to be—the center offered a range of activities. But do you remember, and this overlaps, you may remember this, in '68 when there was a big demonstration at a U of O/OSU basketball game? Because the football coach of OSU would not let Black students have facial hair and afros. And so you remember that? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1827.0,1894.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember that because I just recently re-read that. But I had forgotten that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1894.0,1900.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And then, of course, '68 was the one of the turning points in the anti-war movement because the sitting President Lyndon Johnson was going to be challenged by Senator Eugene McCarthy from Minnesota and later Senator Robert Kennedy from New York. But do you remember the McCarthy campaign in the spring of '68? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1900.0,1931.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I do. And I knew it partly because my parents were both actively supporting McCarthy and that was their activism in The Dalles. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1931.0,1943.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, but did you become active in that campaign amongst students? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1943.0,1948.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1948.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And there's also going to be, Robert Kennedy is going to come to campus in May [1968]. But McCarthy is going to actually win that primary by a substantial margin. But that wasn't to be your end-all for the, for you in terms—did you view these electoral politics as just another part of the anti-war movement? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1949.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I expected that even the better of those candidates were part of the establishment. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1980.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So who didn't have high hopes for the electoral process then? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1991.0,1995.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not, particularly, although, you know, Eugene McCarthy, at least suggested there was some hope and there can be some decent opposition. And I've known Wayne Morse somewhat personally because my mother had helped campaign for him over and over again and knew him as a progressive who she was also critical of because he was not as left as she was. And, yeah, he was a capitalist beef rancher, but he had good politics on those kinds of foreign affairs. And my mom and dad were pragmatists about that. And so, in a sense, I earned some of their pragmatism.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=1995.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, of course, he was one of two senators that would oppose the infamous Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964, which became a bogus pretext for American intervention. And Morse was pretty consistent in his, in staying, and outspoken in his criticism of the Johnson administration.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2041.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(both speakers speaking) He and [Senator] Margaret Chase Smith was—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2065.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. So your mother had some relationship to Morse and more or less his critique of the war was shared, she shared that.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2066.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She helped getting him elected in Wasco County. And she was, she was a pretty serious champion of him, in I believe, it was in one of his first major speeches after I started at the U of O, that I walked up just to say hi to him because I as a little kid, I mean, a really little kid, I'd met him at some of the Democratic Party campaign things in Wasco County, and I just said, \"Hi, I'm Dennis Stovall, I'm from The Dalles. But, you know, you wouldn't have recognized me.\" And he said, \"Oh, how are Ruth and Red?\" [Frank aka Red was Ruth's husband and Dennis' father] I was floored. I mean, that's one hell of a politician who remembers the names of the precinct committee woman and her husband in another county on the other side of the state. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2079.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But by your senior year, you, did you have your medical deferment while you were a student? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2133.0,2142.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2142.0,2143.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that comes after. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2143.0,2144.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That came when I was on the way to the Army. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2144.0,2148.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I see. And so do you graduate in '68 and you don't know what's going to happen in terms of if you're going to go into the Army or what the consequences are going to be if you're organizing in the Army. But did your relationship to the anti-war movement at that time your graduated, did you anticipate that you were going to continue to work against the war? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2148.0,2181.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, yeah. I mean, it never occurred to me that it wouldn't happen. It would be a question more of how it would happen, how it would fit with whatever I did next, whether it was being drafted and doing it from the inside with whatever risks that entailed, or as it turned out, what I would do when I didn't have to go in and I had a lot more options. Although at that point, my activism turned more toward labor activism than just the war. So it wasn't solely the war. Now it had this other element. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2181.0,2221.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But by your senior year, you had a lot of relationships with people in SDS. And you, or you may not been in in the middle of it, you kind of considered yourself an activist within the anti-war movement. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2221.0,2237.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and I didn't consider myself no longer a member of the university community. If I was around it, that was where I'd graduated, those were the people I knew. And I still had a responsibility to them in the same way as if I were a student so I acted that way. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2237.0,2255.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was the job you had after you graduated? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2255.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first one was as a subway builder in San Francisco. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2259.0,2264.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. And you were in a union at that time? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2264.0,2270.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. The International Laborers Union. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2270.0,2273.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's where you got into labor organizing? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2273.0,2277.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, in a way, I think I'd always gravitated in that direction because of my parents having been labor organizers. So the conditions for workers in this country suck. And I knew that. And I knew it from the part time jobs I had putting myself through school. (third person interrupts interview briefly)\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2277.0,2309.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, Dennis, you were an activist in SDS particularly in your junior and senior year. Talk about a little bit about the relationships of men and women in the movement and kind of how you could see the women's movement evolving at that time.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2309.0,2335.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, okay, that's a really good question, because the guys, and I was one of them, tended to be honchos and to carry a lot of the sexism with us, even if we thought we were doing better than we were. And frankly, that was the position I was in. I had a mother who had conscientiously fought against sending three boys into the world to oppress women. And so my brothers and I, and I think they would agree with this statement for themselves to, all thought that we were better on that issue than we actually were, because we were better than most of the guys who we were talking to. And so, I found myself in a serious relationship. And once I started actually talking about sexism and the evils of sexism, I had myself straightened out. Because there was still a long way for me to go. And it took a conscious woman that close to me to make me see where I was lagging behind. And it was great. I appreciated it very much. And, in fact, it served as a check from then on not drifting into the past or not making more of yourself than you are. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2335.0,2421.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then some of the women you were together with in the student movement had experienced discrimination within the anti-war movement and student politics? And they started to educate you about that? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2421.0,2435.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They sure did. And, in fact, I mean, my mother actually had harped on that, not just about sexism in general, but because she'd been a political activist alongside of my dad, who was a honcho political activist. She'd had to put up with it with him and had talked about it. All my life I remember she would talk about those things. She would catch him stepping out of line and not thinking through what he was saying or making some remark that was just totally inappropriate. And she was there. And so that's part of what made my brothers and me feel that we knew more than we did. But she was really right on it. And she had resented that about the movement of the thirties [1930s] that she'd grown up in, that women were simply adjuncts to the men who were in charge. And so you do the dishes. And you do the paperwork. But you didn't do the leadership. And she fought very hard against that. And it was a great example to my high school girlfriends, really wonderful. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2435.0,2509.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And did you ever raise this issue inside of SDS? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2509.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. By way of Cathy, who was my partner. (interviewed interruputed by third person, door closes) Yeah so, you know, once I was alerted to the fact that I wasn't quite as sharp on their questions as I should have been, I figure that, you know, all I had to do is work on that hard and be conscious of it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2515.0,2560.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you didn't necessarily raise that openly with other male members of SDS, you just were kind of focusing on working these issues out yourself? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2560.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I think I probably did mention it to others because we, I mean, we being both the men and the women who were active, wanted better behavior, we wanted a better world. And that meant that we had to be treating each other right in that. This I don't know how well we all succeeded at that, but I knew it was certainly, once it was on the table, part of the agenda. Pay attention. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2570.0,2602.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, it's triggering something in my mind and I'll just check it with you. Somehow, I remember the kind of semi-famous journalist who wrote for Ramparts magazine, Robert Scheer, and a couple of other male anti-war leaders coming to town. And there was some kind of a reception or a party for them after they gave presentations at your house on Floral Hill Drive. Is that something you remember? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2602.0,2634.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2634.0,2635.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, well, I remember that, at your house. And I remember these male heavies attempted to proposition some of the women at that party. And I remember the women being righteously outraged that they would try to do this and kind of running them out of town. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2635.0,2657.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, good. (Both chuckling) I don't remember that. I hope I'm just not blocking that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2657.0,2665.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So, after you graduate, you're going to go to San Francisco and you're going to be working out of the Laborers Union and you're going to be doing some labor organizing. But then you come back to Eugene in 1970? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2665.0,2681.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um-hmm. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2681.0,2684.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And SDS had a labor committee. And in October of, oh boy, this strike started much earlier than I thought. This strike started in October of '68. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2684.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which strike are you—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2704.0,2705.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The shingle workers strike. And then would carry over into '69. And is it possible that this strike would go on for over a year? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2705.0,2724.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's possible. They'd been out for a long time when they came looking for help. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2724.0,2728.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, because we know that in January of 1970, well over a year later, the SDS Labor Committee was going to be picketing with the shingle workers. So tell us about your involvement in that campaign once you had returned to Eugene. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2728.0,2752.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. I had been working at that point as out of the laborers hall and getting my jobs that way because I had that card and I'd come back from the construction in San Francisco. And so I was actually trying to play some role in the local council, union council. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2752.0,2779.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lane Central Labor Council. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2779.0,2781.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that included, you know, making myself available to write things because I was good at that. And so I was doing those sorts of newsy bits. And along with that, I decided that we needed something that was a little more radical. And so with Steve Kite and with my two friends who live in Seattle, whose names you are slipping by me right now, we started a newspaper called The Valley Worker, and it was a tabloid that we were publishing quarterly with all sorts of news for the labor movement but with a political bent to it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2781.0,2830.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For Lane County?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2830.0,2831.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lane County yeah. And I'm not sure how many issues of that we did, but I think it went about a year and a half. And then I moved to Portland and that sort of ended my relationship with it and the others stopped doing it. Steve, I think, left, got his degree, and so it just sort of died of loneliness.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2831.0,2857.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what about the shingle workers strike? What were you specifically doing in terms of supporting SDS and others were supporting that strike? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2857.0,2868.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it was what I found interesting about that was that we were approached by them directly by some of the union members, and that was because they had a radical tradition themselves. Many of them had been Wobblies [Industrial Workers of the World], the older ones, but they, the Central Labor Council also was supporting them. And so they supported me when I said I was going to try to rally students to show up. And when we did that, of course, we ran into a bit of mayhem, as you know. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2868.0,2905.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a radical thing to do at the time for students to come out and walk a picket line. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2905.0,2909.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was and it was also a radical thing for people to leave the campus and go to Springfield. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2909.0,2916.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh-huh. And talk about that about that a little bit. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2916.0,2917.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Springfield is the working-class adjunct to Eugene and the segregation is pretty complete and still is probably. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2917.0,2928.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Class segregation? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2928.0,2929.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Class segregation. And so, we're going into a mill in that community and coming from Eugene, you were actually an outsider. It wasn't like you'd come from another place in Oregon. You'd come from another star in the universe. And had we not been invited by the workers who were on strike, who were mostly quite old and who really felt like they needed that kind of serious support, it probably wouldn't have happened. And nobody else would have invited us to go do that sort of thing. But after they did that, we had it happen at another mill, a place called Moldings Incorporated in Albany, in Linn County, outside of Albany. And there, a bunch of us were arrested again. We were arrested in Springfield when the mill boss, well—first of all, we were just picketing and it's nice and mellow and we've got kids and families and we're walking the line in front of the building. And we did try to stop a couple of trucks that were coming in to get loaded. And, suddenly—there had been cops stationed all along the road—the cops all got in their cars and drove away. Well, there were some people who immediately said, \"Wow, the cops have left, that's good.\" And my brother, Eric and I said, Oh, actually—both of my brothers were there, Eric and Brian—we said, \"No, that's not good. That's a bad sign.\" And within a few minutes pick up loads of guys with ax handles drive up and led by the owner of the mill. And so you knew that some shit was going to hit the fan, and they start ordering us around. My brother, my younger brother Eric, gets into the face of the mill boss and they're calling each other all sorts of names and, as I recall, my brother popped him. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=2929.0,3074.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then what happens?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3074.0,3075.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, then the police were all over my brother and just mashed his face into the heavy gravel on the ground and just, you know, knees on his back. And it looked like bad stuff. And within a few minutes, they'd rounded up all of the guys basically, and put us in a paddy wagon that just miraculously showed up in time for this event. All of a sudden, the police were back, you know, and they left. And the interesting thing was that the guys who had showed up with their sticks, the clubs, ax handles, I don't think they were expecting to use them. It was to simply to intimidate. But nothing, of course, happened to them for having what looked to us like pretty dangerous weapons. And then we were stuffed in the back of that van. And I have a photo of me having a conversation with the detective, because I'm sitting at the very end with my handcuffs on, and sitting next to me is one brother and sitting next to him is my other brother. And we sent that picture home when it got in the paper, so the folks could see that we were actually out doing something useful. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3075.0,3158.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wow, it certainly, your parents; own labor background, kind of predisposed you to get involved in these two strikes. But I think it was generally SDS had a Marxist orientation and they saw the war as an imperial war, but they also saw that there was a class war and a class struggle internally and that it was important that many SDSers believed that the working class ultimately is going to be the agent of a socialist transformation. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3158.0,3197.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, we were hopeful. (laughs)\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3197.0,3201.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But did you to form any relationships with the workers in either of those two strikes? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3201.0,3207.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, with a couple of the older ones. And actually they were all pretty old. There was an old workforce. But yeah, got to know several of them. And they were absolutely happy that we had taken that risk and come to show that support. It really juiced them up. And that part of it felt good. We'd done something we were welcome to do. And we had taken risks. They were risks that we might have been a little too naive about, but nevertheless, we survived those. And I don't think it turned anybody there off on the need to wage these kinds of battles. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3207.0,3250.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were there students that were part of the shingle workers or the molding workers strikes who had no background whatsoever in labor organizing? And this became a political education for them? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3250.0,3268.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that was true for most of them, except for maybe half a dozen of us, three of those being me and my two brothers. But for others, I think it may have been quite revelatory.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3268.0,3284.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was, do you remember, the outcome of those two strikes? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3284.0,3290.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I don't remember how long that went on.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3290.0,3293.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, that's alright. So, you've returned to Eugene in 1970 and in April of 1970 there's a contentious issue on the campus of ROTC [Reserve Officers' Training Corps] and whether it is going to remain, whether the university is going to host and accommodate ROTC and have students taking classes in ROTC. And there's quite a controversy that goes on for several years. And in April of 1970, the faculty narrowly votes to retain ROTC, after which four or five hundred students go to the ROTC building, started throwing rocks and bottles, and do a lot of physical damage to the building. Do you remember that demonstration? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3293.0,3359.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wasn't at that demonstration. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3359.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You were not at it, but you remember it. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3360.0,3362.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I do remember it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3362.0,3366.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And of course you were working during the day. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3366.0,3368.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I was. And I wasn't spending my nights on the campus either. But it seemed to me at the time to be ill-advised. That in fact, it was not going to win the hearts and minds of others. It was just an acting out of anger. And I felt the same anger. But it didn't seem at that moment to be the appropriate tactic. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3368.0,3398.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think that was a moment when there had been previous forms of civil disobedience and there had been an attempt to forcibly remove, I think it was Marine recruiters and then later Navy recruiters from campus. But this incident in April then, you thought that violence against property was counter-productive, and it was not going to move the movement, move things forward?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3398.0,3427.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. You know, and there are times when it might be the appropriate thing to do. It just didn't seem under the circumstances there, given our human resources in the fight and the other battles that we were also fighting at that time, because we still had a war. That wasn't the best way to fight that war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3427.0,3454.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course, just a little bit later, in the end of April, Cambodia is going to be invaded. And then that first week of May 1970, four students are going to be gunned down at Kent State. And actually at the U of O campus before the invasion of Cambodia, there was going to be a sit-in, after students who had been in that ROTC demonstration that did so much physical damage, were arrested for that. And then that sit-in would occur. Students were arrested and then the university is going to call the National Guard onto campus. Followed shortly thereafter by Cambodia and Kent State and all hell breaking loose all over the country at university campuses. So you, as someone who is off campus, you remember that moment and what were you doing in relationship to those demonstrations after Cambodia and Kent State? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3454.0,3527.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I was attending demonstrations when I wasn't working, but I wasn't leading demonstrations at that point. And the closest to leading a demonstration that I did, other than, say going to the shingle worker strike, which you might call a demonstration, was the blocking the 13th Avenue at the university. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3527.0,3552.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And talk about that because that occurs after the invasion of Cambodia and Kent State. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3552.0,3559.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3559.0,3559.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Talk a little bit about that. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3559.0,3563.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that was an interesting issue because from the moment that I arrived at the university— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3563.0,3568.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I've got to correct myself. That occurred just before the invasion of Cambodia. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3568.0,3575.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3575.0,3576.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it, but it did occur after the National Guard had occupied the campus.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3576.0,3584.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so, I mean, there was a lot of anger and it was easy to see how that anger was brewing more anger. The frustration, in fact, had been growing rather steadily over those several years because the war had been extended and extended and it was looking pretty miserable. And also there was a whole new, almost a whole new generation of students on the way to war. So when we went into the streets that particular night and I did it to, I was coming off of a laborers job of some sort, I can't remember where I was working. But over the years there had been an issue about the main drag through the university, 13th Avenue, being a major thoroughfare for log trucks and semis and to get from one class to another across that street was quite literally a desperate act of survival, because people did get run over. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3584.0,3644.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Logging trucks coming right through the campus. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3644.0,3645.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Yeah. Just zooming right through campus. And it was noisy. It was a strange thing to happen right in the middle of your class when somebody would hit the J brakes and you get that roaring sound outside the window. And so we pretty much had taken over the streets because that was also the street that ran in front of the administration building. And with that street occupied, I thought, this is a perfect time to actually block the street because no traffic was going through anyway. And I called the guy who was in the laborer's union with me, who was working on the construction of the new law building, and said I wanted access to the little yard where they kept all the materials. And he came right over and opened it, which shows it was interesting support, actually. And then I got a crew of students and others, and we started hauling those bricks out and we built planters. They were crude, but they were planters that blocked 13th Street at both ends on the campus. And when the wildness of that particular frenzy, of that particular evening and night of activity passed, those were still there. And it was a little while before the university did some negotiation with, I'm not sure who exactly, but with us in a way, on the agreement that they would take that down, but they would close 13th Avenue, which had been a demand of students at the university for probably forty or fifty years. And it was done. It was accomplished. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3645.0,3752.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this was kind of a—this was about student power, and it was also about claiming this place. Right. But it was definitely about student power. And when those barricades went up, was there conflict between loggers and others that were accustomed to driving through the campus? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3752.0,3774.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, not at that point. There probably was a lot of moaning going on and anger among them, but it wasn't visible because they weren't coming through campus at that point anyway. The police had already shut down the street because we had it full. There was nobody going through it. So the only thing that changed the next day was that they had to go the long way around and they might not have liked it, but it was less about the detour they had to make, than it was anger that they already had against people who were protesting. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3774.0,3812.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was actually going on once that the barricades had gone up, what was going on in the streets, and were people kind of hanging out and guarding the barricades? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3812.0,3825.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I think we were there most of the night, but I can't remember except that there was a tremendous amount of excitement about having done that little thing. Because it really was a little thing. It should have been a simple act that the university had done. And, you know, you take small victories where you can get them. But it certainly didn't end the war. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3825.0,3854.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It did not. But of course, in historic retrospect, we know the totality of the anti-war movement, particularly by the fall of '69, and then after Cambodia, was putting real limitations and constraints on the Nixon administration, though many people were not aware of that. But, I mean, after Cambodia and Kent State, how would you assess your relationship to the anti-war movement? You were principally in the community. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3854.0,3890.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was, but we still had a war to stop. And I think I've mentioned this to you already, that I had gone back to The Dalles after some of this, and I'd actually left Eugene and gone to Portland to work for a while because—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3890.0,3907.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Before we go there, some of the guys you were working with in the Laborer's Union, say in '70, '71, how did they perceive the anti-war movement and what was going on? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3907.0,3922.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was various. I mean, I worked on quite a few crews where it was like half and half. Sympathy and anger. But not much conversation about it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3922.0,3935.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But were you trying to initiate that conversation? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3935.0,3939.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In some cases, yes. For instance, in San Francisco, when People's Park took place or was being put together in Berkeley [April 1969]. I took most of the crew I was on, on a Saturday, because we didn't work Saturdays and Sundays, and we went over and we helped build People's Park. And this was at the same time that there were those supposed angry hardhats in— \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3939.0,3963.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In New York. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3963.0,3967.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"—in New York, which of course, was a false thing.\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3967.0,3972.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was orchestrated by the Nixon Administration.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3972.0,3974.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were paid for. They were paid out of the union hall to go do that. And we didn't get paid to go put up People's Park. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3974.0,3985.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you would say that amongst the people you were working with in the community in Eugene, it was divided, but there were those who were very sympathetic? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3985.0,3996.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, there were. I mean, the guy who unlocked the materials shed [at the law school during closure of 13th Street], he was a union official. And he was sympathetic. He didn't encourage me when I was writing stuff for the union to write radical things. But he appreciated somebody who could write. And he appreciated somebody who was class conscious. So he was willing to go along with some of the rest of this, or give more credibility to us, because he could see where sympathies were. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=3996.0,4033.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4033.0,4034.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it wasn't true of a lot of the students who were involved, that they understood labor issues. In fact, it was rare that they did. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4034.0,4042.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4042.0,4043.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it was not that—it was one of the things that one wanted to see happen, but that you couldn't expect to happen, in a big liberal arts university at that point. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4043.0,4052.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. It is interesting that in the spring of 1970, I believe it was late May or early June, there was a ballot initiative. It was purely symbolic, but it was a ballot initiative for citizens of Eugene calling for immediate withdrawal of the United States military from Vietnam. And there was considerable outreach, political education, and campaigning about it. And it passed. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4052.0,4087.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4087.0,4088.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it was it was a moment when public opinion was definitely changing. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4088.0,4093.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. You could feel it moving. And, of course, the government felt that moving too. I mean, and some of the clamping down was to try to keep it from moving. And finally, there was, Okay, we're going to shut it down. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4093.0,4106.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4106.0,4106.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so in that sense, that entire movement from the beginning to the end was successful. And, you know, we still need it. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4106.0,4121.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, talk a little bit about what you mentioned earlier about The Dalles, and there is some kind of benefit or something you put together there. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4121.0,4130.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. I had gone back to, I began to work in Portland, worked there for a while. The relationship ended, and I went back to The Dalles to just get my shit together. And it was at that moment that Haiphong Harbor was mined. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4130.0,4148.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. I think we're talking 1971. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4148.0,4153.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Say, okay. You're going to find that?\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4153.0,4156.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, go ahead. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4156.0,4158.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, I wasn't engaged in anything except planning what I might do next. But when that announcement came of the mining of Haiphong Harbor, and I could see that we were getting in deeper, not getting out of that war. I thought I can do something in my hometown. I can do something that does not happen in a rural town in the United States that doesn't have a college or university in it. And so I decided that I would organize something around that event. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4158.0,4197.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And by the way, that was May of '72 when the United States resumed the bombing of North Vietnam and mined Haiphong Harbor. Yeah.\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4197.0,4212.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I went to work with local clergy who I knew were anti-war. I knew that from my mom. And then with several high school kids who were enamored of hanging out with me because I could talk about all this stuff that was going on down in Eugene and the rest of the world, too. So I talked to them all about us doing a response and doing it in our town. They all agreed that we should do it. And the high school students who had been coming around, went with me to go talk to the Chief of Police, to get the permit for the city park to hold some sort of event. And they did that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4212.0,4255.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My brother, who was working in Portland, told me he would bail me out if I got arrested and that he would provide the funds for the leaflets. And he did that. He didn't have to bail me out. And the students and I went spoke with the Chief of Police and asked him for the permit. And he said, \"No, no, you shouldn't do this, you can't do this, it's too dangerous.\" And I said, \"Well, you say you can't protect us?\" And he said, \"That's not what I mean.\" And I said, \"Well, you know, we can take care of it ourselves.\" And he said, \"No.\" And he got us a permit. So we've got the whole city park for a whole Saturday. And the group I've been working with, the clergy and the high school students, and I go to work on getting this out. My brother came up and he and I went out and distributed leaflets in the evening on the downtown. We got some hostility, but nevertheless we got out the word. And then on the night before the event was scheduled, Phil Ochs was doing a concert—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4255.0,4319.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Phil Ochs, the famous folk singer, and certainly a part of the anti-war movement with songs like \"I Ain't Marching Anymore.\"\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4319.0,4330.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Exactly. That Phil Oaks. And my brother had gone to the concert and afterward went backstage and said, \"Hi, you know, this is who I am.\" And, \"Phil, my brother and I are organizing a demonstration or a day of demonstration at the park in The Dalles.\" And tells him what The Dalles is, this little town up the Columbia, \"Would you be interested in coming in?\" Phil said, \"Sure, I'll come.\" So my brother drives him up, but he calls me first, that night before bringing him up the next day, and says, \"I've got Phil Ochs coming up for this event.\" So I called the two local radio stations and one of them said, \"Oh, wow.\" And then put together all of the AP system, or PA system rather, for Phil to play with. And my brother and he show up. There were four hundred people in the park. My dad shut down his store for the day. He wasn't going to miss this. Gave his hired guys the day off to come and be there, too. I don't know if they showed up. But we had a hell of a day. And Phil Ochs did a full concert and it was broadcast live by the local radio station. Then the local paper, The Dallas Chronicle, said nothing. They hadn't mentioned this was going to happen, even though we'd been promoting it for a couple of weeks. They said nothing after Phil Ochs is there, but of course they didn't need to. It had gone out by radio. And the most pissed off people in the crowd were the wives of the city fathers who had come there without their husbands, because their wives disagreed with the war and the husbands either didn't or were too cowardly to show up. And they started hammering on the newspaper after the fact and got more publicity afterward by their power to get it, than we'd been able to get beforehand. So it turned out quite good, and it was something my brothers and I were really pleased with as a—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4330.0,4465.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Particularly given the conservative history of The Dalles that you had been attempting to organize early in your life as a high school student. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4465.0,4474.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah, it was really great. I mean, it still makes me smile. (laughs)\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4474.0,4480.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And it would certainly, you know, the sustained collective action, that kind of vignette that you just painted was indicative of how anti-war sentiment had gone absolutely mainstream. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4480.0,4496.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. But it, even as it had gone mainstream, for anybody in a small town who is a minority of one or even a minority of ten, it's very, very difficult to speak out. And it remains that way. People can blend in in a big city and find some anonymity, and it's not their immediate neighbor who they're having to face off with. And this may or may not be germane, but one of the lessons that we learned was a harsh one. We came home on a Saturday after going to the grocery store and we lived in the country. There was nobody near our house, right, so you couldn't even see it from the county road. And we drove into our driveway, and someone had painted the house in very high red letters all the way around it: Jew, Christ killer, and swastikas. My mother was Jewish. My dad wasn't. And we looked at that and we all felt terror because we were out in the country. If they could do that, they could come in the middle of the night as easily and do worse. And we'd always, because we lived in the country, had varmint guns. And that was because there were varmints, you know, getting the chickens and that sort of thing. But the ammunition had always been kept separate. And that changed that night, that day. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4496.0,4585.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interesting. You knew you were a target. \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4585.0,4588.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were targets. Yeah. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4588.0,4591.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, Dennis, tell me a little bit what happens, the war winds down and the anti-war movement, certainly, '73, '74, is less powerful, less visible as it was at the high point, certainly in '70, '71. What happens to you after the war and after the anti-war movement? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4591.0,4616.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I continue doing labor organizing and doing it in a more organized fashion, you know, focusing on it with a group of other people who are interested in doing the same thing. And some of that involved a campaign to better the conditions of drivers at UPS [United Parcel Service]. In fact, that, was a campaign called Upsurge. And then, at that point, I switched my union membership. I had so many union cards at one point, but I switched to driving truck and drove freight for TransCon because there were also issues for every delivery. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4616.0,4658.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But were you a Teamster? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4658.0,4659.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. And so I was doing that and then Linny, my spouse, had gotten a job at UPS and was driving. And I thought it would be fun to work side by side with her. And so I got a job at UPS. They didn't hire married couples, but we weren't a married couple. We just had lived together a long time. And so I went to work there with her and we did organizing in UPS, which really needed it because the abuse there was considerable. They took very serious advantage of people who were naive about their labor rights, because they were hiring so many young people and running their asses off. I mean in big freight, heavy freight, or in that kind of work I was doing in the laborers union in the construction, you only worked as fast as the guy who was about to retire. Because if you went faster than him, they'd make him go that fast and he couldn't anymore. And I'd been taught that by them when I made that mistake on those other kinds of jobs when I was younger and gung ho. And UPS, those were killer jobs. People didn't usually live through them for very long before they moved on. So that felt like a really good campaign to pursue. But it also had another element to it, and that is, there's been a because of the kind of business nature of American unionism, there was also the kind of business corruption that you'd expect. And so that campaign and one that was larger than that, that umbrellaed it, called Teamsters for a Democratic Union [TDU], first it was Teamsters for a Democratic Contract, was a way of taking on one of the more corrupt labor unions in the United States, the Teamsters Union, Hoffa's union. And—\n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4659.0,4776.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, just, if I'm correct TDU was kind of a reform caucus within the Teamsters and they were very much involved in this UPS and in other campaigns?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4776.0,4787.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. In fact, they were started at about the same time and depended on each other. So I could have I could have stayed in heavy trucking and been involved in that. But I really like the idea of working together with my partner. And so we got involved in that and we saw some significant successes there. Although when you're in the middle of those kinds of battles and even when you're seeing progress and you're doing fine, you wind up that you have a past that follows you. And in the case of the UPS stuff, they came after us to try to fire us. So they accused me of having had an accident that I didn't have, but the truck had the damage. It wasn't because of me, but they tried to fire me. That went all the way through all the levels of arbitration before I won that. Usually they can kind of freak you out again or just succeed and get rid of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4787.0,4852.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They came after Linny because they said she was taking too many bathroom breaks during the day. They hadn't done that until the organizing was apparent. And they then started spreading the rumor—in fact, we came to work one day and there was silence in our change rooms. Both of us face the same silence. The company had gotten together everybody else and told them that we were communists. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4852.0,4883.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it's fair to say after the war you continued in labor organizing, which really goes very deep in your family. But for you, that came out of the war after the war?\n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4883.0,4897.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it did. And then we decided that, Hey, this has been interesting. And we could see that moving forward. And we decided that we wanted to check out other industrial settings. So we moved to Pittsburgh. I mean, we couldn't have found a place that was more industrialized, but also stranger in many ways. And both of us went to work in the steel mills there. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4897.0,4921.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And were you involved in a Reform Caucus— \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4921.0,4924.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, we were not only in Reform Caucus', but the steelworkers didn't require the same level of a Reform Caucus, because they were already more social democratic and had a history because of their CIO origins of that, that were still intact. So you didn't run into the corruption. Sometimes you ran into bull headedness or just straight conservatism, but not corruption. And we both participated in that, although Linny for longer. She, when the mills shut down, she wound up along with a number of other the women who had finally gotten into the unions, heading up a committee called the Mon Valley Unemployed Committee, which stopped mortgage foreclosures in Pennsylvania, the whole state of Pennsylvania, because you had five-hundred thousand people suddenly unemployed when the mills abandoned those communities. So we were getting other lessons in this. At that point, I decided that—I had been offered an opportunity to be a district organizer for the Steelworkers Union. And I went home and I asked Linny what she thought about that, and she said, \"Well, I don't know whether I want to stay in Pittsburgh\". And I said, \"I don't know if I do either.\" She said, \"What do you want to do?\" I said, \"I'd like to learn how to write for a living.\" And she said, \"Okay, I'll support you for two years, on one condition.\" And I said, \"What's that?\" She said, \"You stop smoking.\" (laughs) And I took a pack of cigarettes out of my pocket and put them on the table, and that was my last cigarette. So she saved my life. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=4924.0,5034.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's great. Well, Dennis, just reflecting on your early labor activism and then your involvement in the anti-war movement, both through the campus and then later as someone who was a worker in the community, how do you assess that? What kind of change, what kind of overall impact did that have on you? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=5034.0,5059.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I'm glad that I did all of that. And there's, I mean, I am not happy about some mistakes I made, errors of judgment or, you know, acting too fast, or not asking all the right questions. But I learned from those things. I survived them. And I'm really glad that I took that path rather than simply taking the safe route, which I could have into academia. And maybe the fact that I knew I always had those options made it easier to take those risks. But then on the other hand, when I was taking them, I was never considering that I was going to take any of those other options. And I felt it felt to me like I was doing something that needed to be done, that had been started by my parents and been started before them by somebody, that would bring greater social justice to the society that I'm part of. And it was important to find a way to do that. And if I couldn't do it in one way, I would have probably looked for another way to do it. But in fact, when I decided that I was going to write, that was in my head, too. Because how can I use those skills, if I can get those skills. I mean, I certainly well, I was in school, but it's not the same as telling stories. It's not the same as making a living at it. And in the course of doing that, Linny and I became publishers and we published new literature, progressive literature, and organized the community of the printed word in the Pacific Northwest. And the rewards for that were intellectual and emotional and in some ways simply practical. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=5059.0,5180.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. But that your later career in writing and then as a writing instructor at PSU [Portland State University], you'd say is connected to your early activism in labor and the anti-war movement? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=5180.0,5197.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is because that that entire program was based upon collaboration, not hierarchy, and now exists twenty years after I started it. And is still that. You know, and that's a, that was a tough one. Because I had not realized until I was in the professoriate how hidebound and narrow it can be. And, you know, so I'm glad I had that experience. But it was also wonderful to find myself actually there in a battle on behalf of the students. I also participated in our faculty union. I was state treasurer of the AAUP [American Association of University Professors] here in Oregon for several years. I was too busy on my actual job to be as much of an activist as I would ordinarily want to be. But at least I could do that. \n\nMarty Bennett","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=5197.0,5253.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hey well, this has been a really rich and informative interview, Dennis. Is there anything we haven't covered that you wanted to add or did we pretty much get everything in there in terms of the anti-war movement? \n\nDennis Stovall","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511#t=5253.0,5270.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3464/collection_resources/160662/file/292511/transcript/84520/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think in terms of the anti-war movement, we covered that. 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