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Her father was a high school biology teacher and her mother was a housewife. Her family went camping in the Willowa Mountains during the summers, which gave her a deep appreciation of the outdoors. During high school, she was athletic, on the gymnastics, tennis, track and swim teams in high school, but she never took a dance class until college. She was a pre-med student at the University of Oregon in 1969-1970 but minored in dance. She recalls participating in the antiwar protests happening on the U of O campus. Lyn was not a lesbian until she danced with Wallflower Order Dance Collective which started in 1975. Lyn and Linda talk about the Wallflower name and the mission of the group. They recall the various cities they performed in across the United States and in Nicaragua and Europe. There was an informal network of women's and feminist organizations they worked with to book their tours. Lyn and Linda talk about some of the themes of their dances including female body image, feminist politics and, later, anti-imperialism. Lyn discusses her involvement with the Workers World Party after leaving the dance troupe. Later, she became a high school biology teacher like her father. Lyn and Linda conclude their interview by discussing aging issues.\n\n\nKey terms: Ballet; Butch and femme (Lesbian culture); Collectives; Communism; Feminism; Gerlinger Hall (Eugene, Or.); Near, Timothy; Sweet Honey in the Rock (musical group); Transgender people; Vietnam War, 1961-1975  --  Protest movements  --  United States; WOW Hall\n\nLinda: Linda was born in 1949 in New York. She grew up on Long Island. During the summers, her family would go to the Catskill Mountains. She went to college in Buffalo, New York and married. She recalls participating in the antiwar protests  --  marching in the streets and being tear-gassed. After college, she went with her husband to San Francisco. There, she met someone from Eugene and was interested. She applied to graduate school at the UO Dance Department, and moved to Eugene in 1971. She taught dance during this time. She discusses the Eugene Dance Collective. One summer, Krissy Keefer, Alex Dunnette, Laurel Near and Linda put on a dance show. This was the seed for the Wallflower Dance Order, which started in 1975. Lyn Neeley joined the group. Linda divorced her husband and came out. Linda and Lyn discuss the Wallflower name and the mission of the group. The focus was on feminist politics, then lesbianism, and finally class politics. Linda was also a dance therapist. Linda and Lyn discuss the dances and the costumes. To support themselves while dancing, Linda and Lyn worked odd jobs in Eugene. They discuss the various cities they performed in across the United States. There was an informal network of women's and feminist organizations they worked with to book their tours. Lyn and Linda talk about body image and feminist politics. Linda discusses the reasons why she left the troupe. She went back to school for a degree in social work and dance therapy. She worked in San Francisco for many years as a therapist. Eventually, she moved back to Eugene with her partner (now wife), Marilyn Picariello. She now teaches mindfulness meditation. Linda and Lyn conclude their interview by discussing aging issues.\n\nKey terms: Ballet; Buddhism; Butch and femme (Lesbian culture); Collectives; Feminism; Gerlinger Hall (Eugene, Or.); Mama's Home Fried Truck Stop (restaurant); Spirituality; Sweet Honey in the Rock (musical group); Transgender people; Vietnam War, 1961-1975  --  Protest movements  --  United States; WOW Hall"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Lyn Neeley (Interviewee)","Linda Rose (Interviewee)","Judith L. 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This is an oral history interview with Lyn Neeley and Linda Rose on August 23, 2018, taking place in The University of Oregon Libraries' recording studio in the Center for Media and Educational Technologies. The interviewers are Linda Long, Curator of Manuscripts in the UO Libraries' Special Collections and University Archives and Professor Judith Raiskin, of the UO Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=7.96,42.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lyn, please let us know if you agree to be recorded for this project and that you give your permission for the university to preserve and make available your recorded and transcribed interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=43.32,52.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yes, I agree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=52.53,53.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And, Linda, please let us know the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=53.79,55.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=55.76,56.7"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay. Thank you very much. Why don't we begin with a basic question. Can you tell us, both of you, Lyn let's just start with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=56.91,65.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When and where you born, where you grew up and something about your early background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=66.52,70.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I was born in 1950 in Portland, Oregon and I grew up there and went to the University of Oregon to go to college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=70.46,83.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay. All right, Linda, why don't you tell us that basic information and then we'll go back to Lyn to follow up on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=85.85,93.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I was born in 1949 in New York and went to undergraduate school in Buffalo, New York, which was the furthest I could get from New York and still be in a New York State scholarship system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=93.8,111.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Immediately from there, I went to the West Coast and lived in San Francisco for a year and met somebody from Eugene and thought, Oh, I have to go up there, and so I applied to the U of O Dance Department and got in and just went and so I came here in 1971 for the first time, where I met Lyn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=111.63,136.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=136.84,137.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay, Lyn. Why don't we go back to you. If you could tell us— so, you were born in Portland and then you came down to Eugene to attend the University of Oregon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=137.43,146.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, when I was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=146.27,147.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=147.15,148.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Let's see, probably 1969 or ‘70, something like that and I was a pre- med student but I was taking dance on the side and slowly that shifted and that's when I met Linda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=148.65,167.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=167.29,168.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Could we hear a little bit more about your childhood, the kind of family you came from—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=168.11,173.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Oh, Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=173.1,173.32"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How you understood yourself in middle school, high school, a little bit about your—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=173.46,178.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I had a really nice childhood. My father was a high school teacher, biology teacher and a basketball coach in Portland. My mom was a housewife and we went camping in the summers to the Wallowa Mountains and he would go fishing and catch the fish and birds that we would eat, so it was really nice that way. I got a real good appreciation of the woods, so when I moved away from Portland, when Wallflower moved to the East Coast, I lived in New York for a long time. I always missed the green, so when I moved back a couple years ago, oh, Oregon's so wonderful. That's all I can think of. I was a tomboy. I can't think of anything right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=178.12,238.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Can I jump ahead for a minute?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=239.16,243.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=243.93,243.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Because what you're reminding me of is one of the first times we went camping together in Eugene. Lyn said, I want to show you how to make cowboy coffee. Now, I grew up in New York on Long Island. We did not go camping, you know? We went to the motel circuit in the Catskills but anyway, so I didn’t really know the woods, so she makes cowboy coffee and we both take a sip of our coffee at the same time and go—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=244.01,271.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: We look at each other—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=271.38,272.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Ooh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=272.72,274.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Ooh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=274.22,274.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What was wrong with it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=274.84,277.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I thought it was awful. She thought it was fabulous and that was the nature of our relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=277.15,282.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=282.78,283.08"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: The positive and the negative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=283.22,285.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: The Long Island, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=285.72,287.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah. The Jew and the not Jew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=287.04,289.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=289.73,290.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When did you first think of yourself as a lesbian or something other than straight?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=291.03,297.26"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I didn't until Wallflower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=297.26,299.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Oh, interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=299.5,300.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: The community, the environment, and just we were so close and so we all kind of came out at the same time during the early ‘80's, right? No, before that, ‘70's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=300.38,312.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: 70's, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=312.24,313.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Well, we'd like to know all about Wallflower but before we start in on that, Lyn, can you tell us what your impressions of campus and of Eugene in the late ‘60's was like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=313.56,326.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: In the late ‘60's. When I first came to U of O?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=326.95,332.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yeah. What you recall of Eugene and the UO campus at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=332.08,338.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I was pretty young. I was unaware. It was a big and— you know? I was a freshman and it was a beautiful campus but it was just big, overwhelming. I was kind of a loner because I was in the science department, so I spent— and I didn't have a lot of money. I was on abundant foods so I really didn't get around. I was kind of a loner and spent my time in the science library doing my science work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=338.03,370.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Do you remember— did you ever go to downtown Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=370.21,373.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, but no. I didn't go out. I was kind of— yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=375.52,379.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, coming from New York, I don't think you saw Eugene as large, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=379.85,388.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Oh, no. This was small town and so I went to undergraduate school at Buffalo at the heyday of the anti-war movement, so it was very political and we were marching in the streets and being tear gassed and it was pretty exciting times and so Eugene kind of, for me it sort of fit in that way, too. I got married to a man and moved to Eugene, married. Started graduate school, the Dance Department, married, and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=388.68,429.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can we back up for a sec? Can you tell us—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=429.81,433.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=433.6,433.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Why you chose the University of Oregon, I can't remember. Had you already mentioned—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=434.19,437.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Because I met somebody while I was camping on our cross-country trip who was in the Grand Canyon and said he was from Oregon and it just sounded fabulous and I thought, Well, I got to go check it out. During that summer when I first came out, I hitchhiked to Eugene in a nice VW bus and I just fell in love with Eugene, so when I decided to go to graduate school, it's the only school that I applied to and I got in and so— And then I got married and we moved together up to Eugene and I finished the graduate program in dance and taught during that time as well and then got involved with— prior to the Wallflower Order, there was a group of forty people on the west side at the WOW Hall, called the Eugene Dance Collective and we just— of all different varieties of people that had dance backgrounds and not dance backgrounds and we danced and performed for the community and it was really fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=437.54,508.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, then one summer, a few of us, Krissy Keefer, Alex Dunnette, myself, and Laurel Near, decided to stay while everybody else was taking a break and put on a show and that was the seed of Wallflower Order and then Lyn joined us about two months after that. She was away studying dance and joined us and then we became five and shortly after Wallflower, I separated from my husband and came out and that was not a surprise but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=508.85,544.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Can you tell us a little bit about that, that process?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=545.06,550.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I kind of knew it for a really long time. I was always attracted to girls and women, my gym teachers, you know? The usual. And in fact, I said to my husband when I left, I think I'm really attracted to women and he said, that's what my first girlfriend said too, so we were kind of, I think, copasetic in that way. It just felt natural and as Lyn was saying, in Wallflower Order, we really fell in love with each other. That was part of the power of the time, I think. That we were creating together but we were in love with each other so why not take it to the next place? Not that we were all lovers but there was that feeling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=550.01,602.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What kind of dance did you each do, specialize in before Wallflower?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=602.75,608.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And, why is it called Wallflower?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=609.04,610.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Oh, yeah, good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=610.76,611.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah. So, I didn't do anything. I was a tomboy and very athletic in gymnastics in high school and I never took a dance class until college but then at the— and— I kind of want to go back because after I first got to the University of Oregon, I did taste tear gas. We marched against the war in Vietnam and so there was that environment that I came into that also gave over to the environment of the Eugene women's community, which was a big influence on us coming out in Wallflower, I think, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=611.96,655.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The name— I was a natural fit for dance and that's what was a natural change for me to go from science, pre-med, into dance, it was just fun and it was easier for me to evolve as a dancer that way but the name came from a book that Krissy was reading by— it was called Mumbo Jumbo, by Ishmael Reed and the Wallflowers were actually a reactionary group that tried to suppress dancing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=658.17,689.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, the name stuck out to her and she suggested it and it just fit us, it was the order part. We were very— we took dance classes every day. We were very, what do you call it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=689.58,704.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Disciplined.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=704.87,706.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Disciplined, thank you. And, we were also wallflowers in our lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=706.04,711.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I think also because we didn't have the typical body types of dancers. 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That there was a kind of sisterhood and a mission to the group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=724.67,735.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Right, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=735.67,736.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: So, it was such a great name, it was really, I think, part of the best of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=737.05,741.4"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=741.42,741.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, what would you say the mission was in the beginning?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=741.7,744.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Well, in the beginning, it was feminist politics, I think, really. I think that's how we started. Even before lesbian, it was feminist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=744.4,753.2"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I think in the beginning, we liked dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=753.2,756.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=756.55,756.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: We evolved into that. I think that we got a lot of pressure from the community to analyze what we were doing and so because we were women, we were championed for that by the Eugene women's community. We got a reflection of that and we got challenges, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=756.9,775.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: You're absolutely right, because our very first piece that we did was just pure movement, it was called, “It's Not That Big a Deal.” There was no music, it was just following each others’ breath and moving in a very athletic way and there was a lot of pieces like that and then we got into much more meaningful pieces that I think were feminist, eventually moved into lesbian identified and then into class politics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=775.26,805.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Right. It was naïve at first because we had a piece called “Sisters” that was a rotating duet and we all had sisters and we were just kind of telling stories about drawing the line in the room and throwing the stuff over on your sister's side and two of us would sit up and tell a story about our sisters and this rotating duet, they would dance out that story and one would go sit down and another would come up and another story teller would take the— it was Pachelbel's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=805.12,836.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Canon in D, that very popular— romantic, very romantic piece.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=836.18,840.76"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Sappy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=840.78,840.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, at the time it was new but it was beautiful and that's why I mean naïve, we were moving together and it was just so— then what else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=840.95,854.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I just wanted to fill in my dance background, too, because it's really different than Lyn's. When you say that, I'm so surprised because I don't remember you not being a dancer. It's just really different. I grew up with dance lessons, ballet, and did the very traditional kind of dance for years and then modern dance and so going into dance was— and also, I was an athlete, too and a tomboy—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=856.19,884.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=884.24,884.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: —in many ways. So, then moving into dance as a profession and became a dance therapist as well so I just sort of moved along with movement all along. We all met at the university, actually. The five of us. We were there at different capacities and stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=884.32,903.17"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Were you a troupe then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=903.58,905.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Not in the U of O. It was outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=906.24,908.9"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: It was after we graduated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=910.11,910.92"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: A dance—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=910.92,911.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=911.15,911.59"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Oh, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=911.61,912.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=912.12,912.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, when you say you were— first you were women dancing and then you had sort of a feminist message. Can you describe that, what your pieces would be like that would have these kinds of messages? The lesbian and what some of those pieces looked like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=912.69,928.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Well, I think “Amazon” is probably our most lesbian identified piece. We had costumes that came up to here. It was a one piece pantsuit that came up and then we pulled it up to our knees and we had these little skinny dowels that were our weapons and we stood all together and looking into the camera and we'd go like this with our dowels and then we'd— oh, like that and we'd— you know? But, it was— we acted like amazons and we danced, it was bold. I can't remember the music. Was there music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=928.56,967.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I don't remember if there— I don't think there was music but during some of the shows, we did women's-only shows and those we did topless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=967.54,977.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah. We did “Amazon” with— oh, yeah, we pulled our thing down to here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=977.22,983.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We pulled it down to here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=983.02,984.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=984.12,984.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: So, we were being more Amazonian realists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=984.47,988.16"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: It was a women's only show, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=988.16,989.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: In that sense. But there were pieces about lesbian relationships and Krissy and Laurel did that beautiful duet to “I Don't Like You But I Love You,” the Laura Nyro song, remember that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=989.49,1002.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Mm-hmm [affirmative]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1002.65,1002.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: That was a beautiful piece and it's hard to remember the specifics but there was a wonderful piece, “Giving Birth to the Self.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1002.81,1017.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1017.45,1017.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It's hard to describe these things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1017.7,1020.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: That was the same outfit. We used those outfits, so those we pulled up to our neck, I think, and we had— it was— [moves arms together]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1020.98,1029.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It was just like this [moves arms together].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1029.74,1030.74"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Our dance teacher finally came to our show and she never really liked any of us because we were too outrageous, but she said it was Martha Graham-ish. But, yeah we would close our legs and then open it up and we had white shiny scarves on our head, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1030.6,1046.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Somebody's head would be in somebody else's crotch, so you'd kind of open up and there was be this white head in there and then close it down again, it was very beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1048.89,1058.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1058.87,1060.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: That was the birthing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1060.64,1061.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Mm-hmm [affirmative]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1062.09,1062.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1063.14,1063.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: And, for clarification, can you tell us, where would you do these performances? How did you make those arrangements?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1063.73,1071.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: At the Wow Hall, that was our home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1071.3,1074.23"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Before it was a community center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1074.24,1075.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We rehearsed. We really worked hard, actually. We rehearsed, we took dance classes every day and/or taught. We rehearsed three hours every day, either at the WOW Hall or at the U of O in Gerlinger and we were lucky to get the space at Gerlinger, I don't think we paid, so we did that five days a week and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1075.31,1098.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How did you support yourselves while you were doing this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1098.64,1102.29"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: That's a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1102.31,1103.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Barely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1103.44,1104.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1104.31,1104.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Two of us were cooks at the Excelsior. At night, we made the Churrasco buns all night. Just odd jobs and then we'd go away on tour and we'd come back and we'd—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1104.8,1114.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, we had to do jobs that we could leave so that we could go on tour. I worked at Mama's Homefried Truckstop, a part of that collective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1114.96,1124.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Can you describe that collective?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1124.94,1126.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Yeah, what was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1126.47,1126.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: We've heard of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1126.67,1127.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Oh, that was a great collective, so that's where Pegasus Pizza is now, right close to the campus. We were about forty people in the collective and it was great for breakfast and there was music that people would play, like Kat and Jo would play and David Winters would play, all the people that were part of the west side and so you could either be a waitress, you could be a cook, you could be on the cleanup and I think some of the jobs rotated. I can't quite remember but it was a wonderful place to work because everybody was part of the collective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1127.81,1173.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1174.1,1174.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Who had started that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1174.69,1177.48"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: You know, there's a women and I can't remember her name but I saw this at the— when they did the show at Lane County Fair Grounds of the 70's in Eugene and all the collectives, there was a great poster of Mama's Homefried Truckstop and the woman's name and she said something like, “It was really great until it wasn't any longer” and that's kind of how I think a lot of collectives felt but it was a really wonderful place to work, so I did that. I also drove the bus for Pearl Buck Center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1177.5,1211.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1211.47,1211.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We just did whatever we had to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1211.58,1213.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I worked at Pearl Buck.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1213.64,1214.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: You did too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1214.92,1215.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: With the kids, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1214.95,1217.33"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah and we had food stamps and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1217.83,1220.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, and we ate cottage cheese. We all had our little mixes. That's what Linda was saying just before we came. 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We just like— I think about it, I was like, there was a nook that was build into the kitchen—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1236.77,1246.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: The nook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1246.54,1246.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: So, if we weren't there, there would be no other place to sit and in the bedrooms, people just had futons on the ground.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1246.65,1254.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Mattresses, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1254.6,1255.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: And, crates for clothes. We were really poor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1256.28,1262.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: How many people lived in that house?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1262.48,1263.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Five of us, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1264.37,1265.52"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1265.54,1266.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1266.08,1266.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Where was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1266.17,1266.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Olive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1266.98,1268.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Seventeenth and Olive. I've gone by; it's a beautiful house now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1268.16,1272.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They really did something with it. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1272.88,1277.0"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, the five of you were the original Wallflower?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1278.72,1283.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1283.27,1283.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: When you went on tour, where did you go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1283.6,1285.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Well, for the first two years of tour, I think, we went all around the country and it was—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1287.23,1293.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Well, up and down the West Coast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1293.11,1294.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: First we did up and down the West Coast, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1294.38,1296.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, how would you book and who was your audiences?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1296.33,1298.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Right, so do you want to tell the first one of the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1298.12,1301.83"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Okay, yeah. Laurel Near was in our company and Holly was her older sister and Holly was going to Seattle to do a concert and said, “Well, why don't you open up for me?” That was our first out-of- Eugene concert and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1301.83,1315.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: To a really large crowd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1316.0,1318.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yes, and then Laurel and Krissy would write on the old tablets, that you turn over just with the lines, no holes just— they would write to production companies up and down the west coast, like in California, I guess, you know, “We are five women from Eugene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1318.07,1337.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have a dance company, can you produce us?” And, that was how we got that but then we—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1337.19,1342.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, and then it was a women's community all across the country that basically produced us, so I booked the next two tours across the country and just contacted all the women's groups. 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We went all the way to Boston and New York and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1361.64,1375.87"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you learn different things about the different women's communities or lesbian communities across the country? Did they seem similar or different to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1375.88,1384.62"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Felt really similar to me. I don't know. 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It was just a really positive experience, I think, all the way around and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1391.39,1432.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Was there one particular performance that you recall during that time period?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1432.58,1438.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Well, I remember performing in New York, at Hunter College, because my family got to come and my cousins, my aunts, everybody. 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In fact, some of the statements that people have made. Lyn's grandmother said— do you remember what your grandmother said about— “It's nice that all these homely women have some place to go.” [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1468.34,1481.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: To go, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1481.95,1482.86"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: And, then in Ukiah, one of the reviews said, “It's hard to get past all that hair to see what was going on,” or something. 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I think there must have been ten of them sitting in the audience but they just were so proud and nobody said a word about the politics or anything, they just— oh, you dance so beautifully, that kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1499.17,1512.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: What's interesting about that is that you were out there to the extent that, that is what bodies look like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1512.36,1517.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1519.07,1519.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, nobody has that experience of watching dancing bodies on stage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1519.21,1522.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1522.15,1522.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It was really new for people and yet so familiar, so real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1522.85,1527.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1527.82,1528.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I think that's why the response was what it was because we were really reflecting back something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1528.36,1535.6"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, plus if you watch ballet, it's the heterosexual romance is the center of all of that—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1536.15,1541.44"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1541.46,1542.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, to see something different must have been dramatic for people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1542.43,1544.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, right. Yeah, we lifted each other. We held each other. 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It was fine in the bars but I think in the Eugene women's community, we still struggled with the political correctness and that is one version of it. I don't think it was as strong with the butch-femme thing here, but there was definitely the political lines and so on the one hand, the women's community really, really embraced us, supported us, and helped us in tremendous ways and also expected a lot from us to tow a line in a sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1778.84,1820.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Because we were public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1820.15,1821.27"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We were public, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1822.08,1822.41"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, I think we always felt a little outside of the women's community, because we didn't come in as lesbians. 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When you got negative feedback or—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1902.88,1905.85"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Oh, negative?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1905.86,1906.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Yeah, what was it about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1906.8,1908.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I can't remember. It was more from as we started to go from feminism to left wing politics, I think. It was from women in Mother Kali’s from Marilyn. Her wife [points to Linda].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1909.65,1927.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We were not together then but, yeah. 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We're the closest now but we were the opposite ends of that, because I always felt fed by the feedback and wanted to know more about, what are we saying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=1988.67,2001.21"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, I went into more of the left wing politics, wholeheartedly and then started incorporating that in our dances but— yeah, I don't know. 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She had glitter in her hand and the light would focus on one and we'd talk about that Tarot character and there was a little kind of— Laurel was against the wall like this and the light comes on her and she goes, “pyew” [gestures], like that and this glare comes up and they talk about what the magician is and then we danced but all of our dances came from our lives because we were doing the Tarot at that time with each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2075.59,2105.72"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Who did your costumes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2105.73,2108.12"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2108.12,2110.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2110.11,2110.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We did everything and we worked with a woman for a while who was our musician, who did live music with us, Suse Millemann, and she was wonderful so we toured with her for a number of years as well, and she became our sixth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2110.57,2127.67"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah. There's a review in The Village Voice and it says— because when we were on tour, we had this chest and we'd open it up and that's where our costumes were and they were all wrinkled and everything and it said, “The Rag Tag Dance Company,” with— you know, they'd open their chest and rags come out and it turns into this dance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2127.67,2147.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Right, right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2147.33,2148.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, it was right— oh, so one of our costumes, I think, Krissy— did you go? To the Goodwill, and they found these swimming suits that were white, they were the old fashioned, they look like girdles kind of, and then they had these little plaid skirts on them and so that was— and, then we had— so we got five of those. 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2194.09,2195.78"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: So, that dance came out of the costumes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2195.78,2198.28"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2198.29,2198.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, the costumes that we told you about, we had them for a number of dances. It was stretched. The see through kind of stretch blue material and it could come up to here, it could go down here, but it came because I had a baggy pair of pants and I had my arms down my pants. We were I think at the University of Oregon, and we were just kind of bored and tired or something and I started going like this and they said “Oh, wow, you got these beautiful lines from your crotch going out.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2198.6,2225.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2226.78,2226.89"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Laurel and I sat and made a bigger version of those and we used them for everything. The elastic would be coming out and yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2226.91,2235.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We were very frugal, so we did it all, or Goodwill, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2235.17,2240.51"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Did you have relationships with other dance troupes around the country?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2240.52,2244.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, we did. We did have some. I'm trying to remember. It's one of the groups that we started connecting with in San Francisco was Tumbleweed. Were you a part of that? In the very beginning. 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Nancy. Bernice, and she starts talking in this low voice and we start exchanging political art stories and they sang for us in a cappella and we're—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2294.42,2310.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It was so powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2310.18,2310.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: These little white girls. It was really amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2310.93,2314.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: There were four— actually—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2314.09,2314.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Echoed and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2314.49,2315.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: At that point, there were four of them and they sat like this close around the table and they just sang into each other's mouths. It was so beautiful. So powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2315.44,2326.5"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: When they talked it was just stillness. Deep and rich, really nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2326.5,2332.25"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: The thing I remember Bernice saying was, this was one of the arguments at the time, whether you needed to label yourself or not and how do you label yourself and she said, “I believe you have to label yourself. You can have twenty things on your label but you have to label yourself.” And I didn't think that at the time but I was like, Okay, that's interesting. 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There was no therapy in that day and age, it was pretty bad. We didn't really handle it very well. A lot of fighting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2383.94,2392.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: What year are we at right now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2393.43,2394.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Well, so the group started in ‘75, I left in ‘79, and Lyn and the group— Lyn left in ‘80—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2396.52,2405.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Eighty-three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2405.32,2405.98"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Eighty-three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2406.02,2406.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Or, four, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2406.9,2407.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: And, I think the group kind of folded around that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2407.09,2411.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Split.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2411.48,2414.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, it split.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2414.2,2414.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: But, why did you leave when you left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2414.36,2416.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2416.01,2416.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Mm-hmm [affirmative]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2416.77,2417.05"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I left. I was turning thirty and I felt like a couple of things. I didn't feel like I could continue living hand-to-mouth like that. It was really a hard life and I also didn't want to be in Eugene anymore. I wanted to be in a city. One of the things that was hard for me was being a performer where our lives are public and I'm kind of a private person and I'd go into the store and people would talk to me as if they really knew me and I just felt really exposed. So that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2417.05,2454.57"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the third part was I felt like we were struggling so hard in the collective that it was like a power struggle at that point and it didn't feel like a win-win situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2454.6,2467.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Somebody was going to win and somebody was going to lose, so we didn't really know how to— at that point, I didn't feel like we knew how to find middle ground. We were really all kind of gone like that, so the work was not fun anymore and it felt more destructive and it didn't feel as creative. That's why, for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2469.36,2493.93"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: It definitely got more heated, the arguments, as it went along and there was a young girl, Pammy, at the time and we had the stance that I was talking about, “If I were I” with the sign language, that moved into dance, and at the end we come back together and we do a— we're all doing different things that come out, it's like a still life that's moving and in one, growing is one of the signs and Krissy has her hand here and Pammy— or, no, Pammy has her hand here and Krissy's growing from her hand like this and then like that and Krissy and Pammy had slept together and so there was that dynamic, too, because there was some sexual tension and the fighting came out of that when it didn't go right, which— there's five of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2493.94,2547.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pammy was furious. She's from the south, from Louisville. Furious, this horrible temper, so she has these long fingernails and she's going like this to Krissy and Krissy had scratches on her and what could she do? She has to perform, so it got like that, and we come to place and purses would be throwing into the cars and it was intense. 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To this day, you'll go in and somebody will come up— and Wallflower will come up and people have our posters in there because what Linda was saying, that we were— our bodies, the way we combined different elements into the dancing and that it came from our lives. All of those things were kind of new at that time and so a lot of young women who had wanted to be dancers, I think it was eye opening for many, many women, clear through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2590.42,2624.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think we did have a— we were riding a wave, and it was just serendipitous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2626.46,2632.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2632.08,2633.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Are there dance companies that you can see now? That they're doing your work or continuing your work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2635.99,2640.3"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2640.89,2641.39"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Or, have things changed in different ways?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2641.64,2645.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: No, I don't think they were doing our work but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2645.5,2650.81"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It's hard but, yeah. I don't really follow dance companies anymore so actually I don't know what's out there but I think we did offer something to the dance world in some ways that I think impacted them but I couldn't say exactly who or how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2650.81,2666.55"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, I don't know about the dance world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2666.55,2668.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I know other women though, like Lyn was saying. When I came back here to Eugene, four years ago, a couple of different women came up to me after and we were talking and said that they still remember the first time that they saw us on stage and what a powerful thing that was and one of them was a dancer and she said she had moved away from dance because it was so foreign to her in a lot of ways and seeing us really helped her come back to be able to dance and anyway, it was very moving to hear the kind of impact, I think, that we did have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2670.85,2709.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Margaret Bartlett, our therapist’s assistant, who sets up the appointments, I just found out had seen us and is still dancing today because of us, she said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2709.06,2721.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Margaret is dancing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2721.47,2722.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: No, not Margaret, her assistant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2722.61,2723.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Her assistant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2723.67,2723.79"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, she has Ten Tiny Dances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2723.76,2727.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2727.96,2728.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: It's here. I don't know. Anyway, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2729.08,2732.31"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, what years was Wallflower, again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2733.35,2736.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Seventy-five and then in ‘74, we were on the—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2736.35,2741.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Eighty-four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2741.44,2742.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I mean ‘84. We had moved to Boston and I quit just as the group at the same time wanted to go to San Francisco, so that was ‘84 and then there was a whole lawsuit about the name because really that was the only thing of value that we had was the name that we built up and they had to change their name to Dance Brigade in the Bay Area, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2742.38,2770.88"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Because the group split, so the two groups had to drop the name Wallflower Order and each group took a different name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2770.9,2777.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: So, the Dance Brigade were, anybody from your original group?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2777.82,2782.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, Krissy and then Nina, who joined our group about three years into the life of Wallflower, were Dance Brigade and then two other women that were in Wallflower Order, formed the East Coast company, which was Crows Feet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2784.11,2799.42"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, Nina died, so Krissy's the one that's left and she's carrying it on. 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I retired and moved here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2821.03,2869.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Why did you come back to Eugene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2870.62,2872.71"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Well, that's interesting, because from about 2005, my wife now, Marilyn, who is Mother Kali's founder, she and I would come down every summer for about ten years or so just to visit friends and to be here, because we really love Eugene, especially in the summertime, and we bought a— so, actually, in 2005, we formed a reunion for the Wallflower and all the community that was happening called WOW Now. We produced it and so Wallflower, those of us that could get together, we did a couple of pieces. The musicians, a lot of the lesbian musicians played. It was really a great gathering of the lesbian women's community from the heyday of the ‘70s. This was in 2005 at The WOW Hall and so during that time, Marylyn and I bought a house, thinking that we might retire here. It was the only place that we could decide upon, agree upon together. And, then we rented it for about ten years and eventually moved here in 2014.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2872.72,2952.34"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Have you stayed here the whole time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=2952.36,2956.53"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: No, no. When I split from Wallflower, I moved to New York and joined a Communist Party that's run by women, really. They call it the Matriarch, and that party is separated from the Socialist Worker's party, sixty, fifty, years ago, and one of the issues was the lesbian and gay issue because the Social Worker part of it was so poor on that. So, we have a lot of lesbian and transgender, now non-binary. There's a lot of growing that takes place in that party around abuse now, the #MeToo movement. Trying to, for old people, older people to change their view about, that you always go with the victim. There's a lot of growth pains. Anyway, it was very appealing to me and so I moved to New York and worked with, it's called Workers World, until two years ago. 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But before when I was in New York, I wasn't really filling the capacity that I thought I had, but when I came to Portland, everything that I had ever learned was coming into play and it still, it's challenging and it's very fulfilling so it's very satisfying, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3060.95,3094.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah. I wanted to say what I'm doing now here, because—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3094.82,3098.1"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Oh, yeah. It's the opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3098.11,3099.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We're always sort of comparing notes. We're doing the same thing but in totally different fields and directions, so I got really involved in Buddhist meditation forty years ago, even when I was living here and especially in San Francisco, was part of a Sangha community with a teacher. And then when I moved here with Marilyn, there was not a community, so we formed a community with some other people and I've become one of the leaders and so I'm teaching the Dharma and mediation sessions and I never thought I'd be doing that but it's really wonderful and we just started a Q-Sangha for the LGBTQIA community here, so that's really exciting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3099.8,3146.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3146.47,3146.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: And, yeah so I feel like we're watching our community grow as Lyn is watching her community grow and we're both sort of on these community building kind of tracks in very different—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3147.15,3159.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: The opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3159.63,3160.38"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Areas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3160.39,3161.58"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, we're real connected though in that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3161.78,3163.91"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3163.93,3163.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Well, it sounds like it's the seeds of what separated the dance has sort of evolved into the work that you're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3164.01,3169.66"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3172.48,3173.47"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: The materialist, the spiritual and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3173.48,3173.69"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3173.71,3173.77"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: And, the lessons that we learned from that era were bringing to a new generation, really. The collective work, working together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3173.79,3183.46"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah, I have to say that being a part of a collective, as hard as it was, we learned so much about communication and negotiation and then becoming a therapist. I was a group therapist, a couple's therapist. I was like, all of that became part of the tool box.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3184.65,3202.01"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes I'm amazed at how little people understand how to work together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3202.84,3207.18"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: I was just going to say that same thing because I became a school teacher so this was in the ‘90s and the young people coming in, were clueless about working together. 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Everybody in our Workers World group in Portland is in their twenties. Some are approaching thirty but we have two high school students that one is a Yemen woman and she's a junior in high school and this young man who just graduated from high school, so yeah and I feel like I've had thirty- five years of experience with Marxism and working in a Party and building and doing outreach and doing demonstrations, but they're all learning a lot from it. They really respect— it's amazing that they are coming into— they're coming into this branch, or into the whole party really— young people are just— it's expanding so much—with a tremendous knowledge of Marxism, that I didn't have but they have things online where they read. They are teaching me about Marxism but in terms of party-building, yeah, I feel like— and just having taught and everything, relating young people isn't knew to me so it's great. That's why I say, I feel like I'm bringing all of my life experience into building this little branch in Portland. And, it's really fun. They're young and exciting and the things that the Party's learning as whole— because we were, for a while, older people. We would look around and our numbers were dwindling as the— it was a reflection of the society, the reactionary parts of the society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3249.01,3355.84"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everyone had gray hair and then all of a sudden, bam! Four years ago, people of color, young people were coming in. 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It's not a part of my life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3393.2,3397.97"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I don't really go to dance performances but there's this form of dance: Contact Improv. I don't know if either of you are familiar with it but it's very popular, even here in Eugene and so there's a community that does Contact Dance and one of the members of our Sangha, our meditation group, is really active in it so I kind of get to see what's going on a little bit and trans is definitely happening in there so I'm very— I think it's just all over the place and so why wouldn't it be in the dance world? 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I was watching this male duet, two men dancing together in a loving way and I was like, “This never would've happened before.” It was really very sweet and beautiful and there they were on national TV and the judges were commenting on, “Wow, we've never seen anything like this before.” So it's happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3436.37,3458.56"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3458.56,3459.45"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3460.14,3462.02"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: Is there some aspect of Wallflower or your lives in Eugene or elsewhere that we haven't asked that we should know about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3462.04,3473.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: That's a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3473.68,3487.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I don't know if there's a question but I wanted to just make this comment that coming back here at this stage of my life, so I'm sixty- nine now and I have such fond memories of being here as a twenty- something-year-old and sitting in the river park area, doing Taro readings with the Wallflowers and coming of age and now kind of coming to age, there's something so interesting about these two juxtapositions and I have just such a sweet feeling about it here. 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I have a lot of thoughts about aging. I mean, I was just saying to Lyn on the way over here, eighty-one is the age that my mother and my father and my grandmother died so I think, Okay, that gives me twelve years, and I'm losing a lot of memory so I start to think, Okay, I don't have children, what's going to happen? I worry a lot about that and I gave Marilyn permission, I said, “If my memory goes, you can put me in a memory care and I'm okay with that.” But I just— I don't know. I worry about how a lot of us are going to deal with this kind of loss of ability and without children, many of us, without the kind of— I think there's community in a lot of ways but the community doesn't always feel age-combined.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3556.78,3618.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're either all old or whatever, unless you have children and family so I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3618.37,3623.68"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, there's that. I think that's true but I wanted to just say how I felt. I think we both agreed, when we came to your first meeting here and all these old women with help walking and leaning on each other and coming up the stairs and in this room of lesbians, it was fantastic and it just made me think, I love lesbians, they're ageless in a certain way. Not to take away, because what you're saying is so true, but just all my lesbian friends are so young at heart still. I think just— and they meet life by themselves and it's just in a strong way, so there is that. You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3623.7,3681.82"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Right. Yeah, that was a great meeting, it was really—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3681.83,3688.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: There was a lot of energy there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3688.45,3688.96"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Celebratory. 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I mean, I don't know what they look like anymore but— so, it is interesting. There's some separation from this little ghetto community—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3769.0,3799.24"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: That we had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3799.26,3800.22"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: That we had that I think is different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3800.28,3802.49"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3802.5,3803.13"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It's both good and also maybe there's a downside to it. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3803.15,3807.65"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: It really was a nest for us, here. It was very safe and powerful. I guess in Workers World, there's a lot of lesbians and gay and non- binary and everything but it is part of a wider community. It's the whole society there in a nutshell but lesbian, gay, LGBTQ are celebrated and given the first to be able to talk and we have a caucus of our own and elevated in that way and people take leadership from women especially and—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3807.67,3861.19"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3861.29,3862.11"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: So, that's really great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3862.12,3863.63"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: We've been asking people to think about these interviews being looked at by very young people or people in twenty years. Is there anything that you would say specifically to a young person now, given all of your experience that you've had?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3863.65,3877.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Keep learning. Yeah. It's easy when you're young to think you have the answer to things and that you'll see as you go along, you might have the answer for a while but that answer will change and if you don't change with it, you're screwed, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3878.45,3903.35"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, the questions change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3903.37,3905.36"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yes. Right, yeah in ways that you cannot predict. You know? Be flexible, because otherwise you age faster. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3905.78,3922.14"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: I don't think I have anything that I can think of but it's an interesting question. It's even interesting just to think about young people looking at this. I think, why would they be interested? Isn't that— that's interesting in itself. I had a client in my therapy work who was an older lesbian, so she came out in the ‘30s, ‘40s, and she would talk about her experiences in New York going into restaurants, bars, with a man that she knew, go into the bathroom, change her clothes, and walk out and just that whole way of what the life was like then and I was so fascinated by it. Just that level of subterfuge, of having to really hide and so I think, yeah, of course young people would want to know this but it's hard to remember that sometimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3924.45,3989.37"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah. I just—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3989.37,3991.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: We're just part of a stream, I think of all these changes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3991.66,3995.8"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: But, yeah when you look back, because Leslie Feinberg, wrote Stone Butch Blues, she's a friend of mine, she was in the Party and I just started reading it again and it was that same thing. How the cops would come in, you had to have three pairs, three pieces of clothing that were of your sex, and if you didn't you were beat up and it was way different. And, that wasn't that long ago, so you just look back and things are so different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=3995.81,4029.99"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: I think it's sweet you've come back to retire and work back in Oregon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4030.01,4036.06"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Isn't it? Yeah, it feel so right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4036.08,4038.73"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Raiskin: And, be close to each other again, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4038.75,4039.43"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4039.45,4040.07"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: It's really— it's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4040.98,4043.61"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Yeah, we see each other once every month or two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4044.27,4046.64"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4046.72,4047.09"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long: Well, thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4047.11,4051.03"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4051.05,4051.15"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neeley: Thank you, great questions. Yeah you did a nice job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4051.17,4054.04"},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564#t=4054.04,4054.33"}]},{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://uoregon.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1634/collection_resources/56363/file/130564/transcript/92600/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/600/original/4746_Coll520_do039_aligned.vtt?1776852366","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/092/600/original/4746_Coll520_do039_aligned.vtt?1776852366"}]}]}]}